"Taking Chances" album - Official Topic

[Céline's Blues]

I'm rather positive, Del. Really! It's unusual for me but I am.

[Dionesque]

Surprises to come?... well, it's so speaks for collaboration with Snoopy than!

[Elaine]

Surprises to come?... well, it's so speaks for collaboration with Snoopy than!

 

God forbbids this tragedy!!

[firebird]

Surprise, surprise!

Rene likes to use big words. He wouldn't be le manager if he didn't. We'll see if those are just empty phrasis or if there'll be actually some substance behind it.

[celine5-5]

Celine has been using the word "edgy" to describe her music ever since her comeback in 2002. One Heart was supposed to be "edgy", and look what we ended up with. What the hell does "edgy" even mean? If One Heart was "edgy" than I think one "edgy" album is enough. >(cough)< >(cough)<, "edgy".

[sayyed]

What the hell does "edgy" even mean? If One Heart was "edgy" than I think one "edgy" album is enough. >(cough)< >(cough)<, "edgy".

 

 

 

 

Songs in the style of Your light, Si Jetais Quelqu'un and Naked would do it for me, though I doubt it'll be a poprock album. I hope it doesn't end up being the trash album of the r'n'b-scene!

[SuperLove4Celine]

Maybe a whole album in the style of "Rain, Tax" and "Love Is All We Need"? LMAO

 

...Joe...

[Ronny83]

I'll judge when the album/the single comes out.

[Julian]

She wants to do a World Tour and not only a Tour in french speaking countries!!!

So her new english album have to be the taste of many as much as possible peoples!

With Songs like in Falling into You/LTAL you could fill stadions TEN YEARS AGO, but not yet...

Thats why she have to do something new.

Is the Promo BAD like a looot of times before in english speaking countries and the album flop, she cant do a tour here in Germany, Austria or even the UK!

Let's hope the Promo Team will do a good job, Celine will...

[Davey84]

I think exactly the same, gogo! Céline could not only offe gorgeous music in English but also lyrics.

 

Today René has been also interviewed on Canadian TV and he said her next English album will do to her English career what Incognito did to her French career as far as the change of style is concerned. He said there will be "surprises". Surely for the general public cuzz every fan here on the forum knows what's coming. And personally I'm looking forward very much to it even if it seems scary at first glance!

 

As long as there aren't any so called rappers in her songs.. then I'm still fine with it! The only way Céline can shock the world is to record a great rock album! If she does dance, hiphop or europop, then they'll just say Céline is coping Madonna, Mariah or Kylie... so I'm hoping for a rock album!

 

oh and the comment earlier from rené is BULLSSSSSSSSS! there are amazing authors and musicians! Even look at what they have carried with them for over 15 years... Mego! he made amazing things for AND! The question is... does the management of Céline Dion or Sony Music want Céline to make a 'From them' or If only loving was enough' or 1 girl and 4 guys or 'From women'? I think they are still seeing her as the milking cow from the 90ies.. but Céline will never be that ever again cos the music market has changed so much! Oh well only 5 months to go! I guess céline will be recording the rest of the songs in the summer then?

[SlovakClark]

wow seb , i really hate rene's attitude

it's like he already gave up on her english career - the english part of her career is just for commercial success , looking for some quality? - that's why we released DELLES .

what's wrong with him? does he really think that celine cant record some quality songs in english? and what's the deal with that remark about how diffrent it is in english since people wont dedicate their entire time for her record? - i'm in shock!!

 

he should know better than anyone how many amazing and talented authors would kill in order to have celine singing their songs in ENGLISH!!! celine is an icon and many talented people would be more than happy to concentrate only on her project and come up with a concept . the problem is that he is lazy and he wants the easy way when it comes to her english records - he is just calling the hottest producers out there , mix them together and holla - a new english album .

they could do the same thing they did with DELLES in english...there r enough talented writers who write amazing poems in english but i guess rene isnt aware of that fact

 

OMG, i cant believe, that u have this meaning. How qualitty songs do u mean? U think that songs like ANDHC or IA is really qualitty?!!!

 

i dont think so, just remember how many english hits celine have on her english career: one or two?!!!!!

and how many hits have much more youngest artists like christina,pink, beyonce? TONS of hits!!! 4,5,6 hitsongs from every disc!! and celine? still nothing, still radio and people unfriendly songs, so i hope rene finally get clever and from many poor english albums (unknown to most people )yes we love that albums but only WE!!! celines fans)). we will have finally first celine succes

and when u saying celine is an icon look at the people what they are thinking about celine!

and why?

 

becouse people dont like poor songs, they like new music, new aranngements, screaming voice, no calm deathfull songs

 

when celine wont do current album, that it will be her death in world music way, and she will never be a legend

 

and when u thinking about songs like naked, or love is all we need or rain, tax is rockish rnb songs, that u dont know nothing about music these days.

 

i am praying for beats like another these days artists have on their song, it doesnt matter if it will be rnb or rock but it must be lound and powerfull and funny and happy and dance and soul, no calm (and for your imagination: one heart was sooooo calm and poor)

 

[firebird]

She wants to do a World Tour and not only a Tour in french speaking countries!!!

So her new english album have to be the taste of many as much as possible peoples!

With Songs like in Falling into You/LTAL you could fill stadions TEN YEARS AGO, but not yet...

Thats why she have to do something new.

Is the Promo BAD like a looot of times before in english speaking countries and the album flop, she cant do a tour here in Germany, Austria or even the UK!

Let's hope the Promo Team will do a good job, Celine will...

A lot of artists do even less promotion than Céline and still their concerts sell out. There are many people who want to see Céline in concert again. She hasn't done that since 1999. So even if the album isn't "the taste of many" I have no doubt that she can sell out concerts around the world.

 

when celine wont do current album, that it will be her death in world music way, and she will never be a legend

lout and powerful !

Edited May 28, 2007 at 11:24 AM by firebird

[Moleque20]

OMG, i cant believe, that u have this meaning. How qualitty songs do u mean? U think that songs like ANDHC or IA is really qualitty?!!!

 

i dont think so, just remember how many english hits celine have on her english career: one or two?!!!!!

and how many hits have much more youngest artists like christina,pink, beyonce? TONS of hits!!! 4,5,6 hitsongs from every disc!! and celine? still nothing, still radio and people unfriendly songs, so i hope rene finally get clever and from many poor english albums (unknown to most people )yes we love that albums but only WE!!! celines fans)). we will have finally first celine succes

 

You gotta be kidding us, right? You dont consider TPOL, IYAST, WDMHBT, BATB, BYLM, PQTME(it is a great achievement for her english career), MHWGO, IYA, IACBTMN, TH, TTWIS, TLYM as hits?

[felixwhoals]

Celine has achieved her downs and ups. And I'm sure she has reached the top with MHWGO. Everybody knows who is Celine Dion!!! The woman who sang My Heart Will Go On. At least she managed to show to other people who she is.

I doubt Celine will ever have anymore MHWGO hits again. But it could be in the future. I simply think Celine peaks in 1996-1998 era!!

And Im pretty sure Celine wants to sing for pleasure only. I mean she's a mom now. Maybe people who have a child will think differently.

Edited May 28, 2007 at 11:42 AM by felixwhoals

[thevoice]

SlovakClark - i'm sorry but i didnt understand a word from what u wrote

and i dont know what it is that u wanna say

[Julian]

She wants to do a World Tour and not only a Tour in french speaking countries!!!

So her new english album have to be the taste of many as much as possible peoples!

With Songs like in Falling into You/LTAL you could fill stadions TEN YEARS AGO, but not yet...

Thats why she have to do something new.

Is the Promo BAD like a looot of times before in english speaking countries and the album flop, she cant do a tour here in Germany, Austria or even the UK!

Let's hope the Promo Team will do a good job, Celine will...

A lot of artists do even less promotion than Céline and still their concerts sell out.There are many people who want to see Céline in concert again. She hasn't done that since 1999. So even if the album isn't "the taste of many" I have no doubt that she can sell out concerts around the world.

But how expensive (or not) are these tickets?

 

The only thing i want to say is that she need this album to speak to new and to many fans/peoples to do a big tour and a sell out tour in the english speaking area!#

She cant fill a stadion only with long time fans who wait since 1999.

I think it's fact!

Edited May 28, 2007 at 12:06 PM by Julian

[salsacolin]

Celine has had MANY hits all over the world. She is more of an album seller than a singles seller. ANDHC sold amazingly well. It was #1 in 18 countries.

 

She sells more albums than many current artists who have huge hits. It will always be this way. There isn't any part of the world who havent heard of Celine.

 

I'm excited about the new album but I second what others have been saying. I hope edgy is not One Heart which was dated when it came out and very middle of the road. To me she either needs to set a trend and do something fantastic which is not copying mariah, pink, avril or madonna or go back to doing what she is best at.

[Céline's Blues]

I'm excited about the new album but I second what others have been saying. I hope edgy is not One Heart which was dated when it came out and very middle of the road. To me she either needs to set a trend and do something fantastic which is not copying mariah, pink, avril or madonna or go back to doing what she is best at.

It's quite obvious they want to make the new English album as much hip and up to date as Falling Into You was ten years ago. ANDHC and OH were 4 years to late to have some righteous commercial impact. This time around working with great proven Céline producers like Afanasieff and hopefully Snoop and Timbaland they are making the right choice.

[tcherno]

i hope that Celine won 't do any rap songs and hope that no artist will be singing in her songs like snoop dog. i liked nelly furtado latest album and her work with timbaland. i think Timbaland might present something NEW but still like the celine way...

[Davey84]

OMG, i cant believe, that u have this meaning. How qualitty songs do u mean? U think that songs like ANDHC or IA is really qualitty?!!!

 

i dont think so, just remember how many english hits celine have on her english career: one or two?!!!!!

and how many hits have much more youngest artists like christina,pink, beyonce? TONS of hits!!! 4,5,6 hitsongs from every disc!! and celine? still nothing, still radio and people unfriendly songs, so i hope rene finally get clever and from many poor english albums (unknown to most people )yes we love that albums but only WE!!! celines fans)). we will have finally first celine succes

 

You gotta be kidding us, right? You dont consider TPOL, IYAST, WDMHBT, BATB, BYLM, PQTME(it is a great achievement for her english career), MHWGO, IYA, IACBTMN, TH, TTWIS, TLYM as hits?

 

you forgot TT which spent 14 weeks or something at no 1 in the UK (never happened again for any artist I think...)and of course there is ABM and OOR...

 

Look Pink, X-tina, Beyoncé are now a lot on the radio, because they are hot artists now... but Céline was a hot artist 10 years ago and played everywhere! In 10 years I don't think Pink, X-tina, Beyoncé will have much airplay, not as much as today... that's called life... you come, you go...

 

btw...The only songs I hear from X-tina is Beautiful.. not the other '4' hits.. and from pink the same story...

[Dionesque]

I love Christina's "Hurt"!!

But you're right, I don't think they will be much played around after 10 years or so, epscially Beyoncé...

 

Anyways, if she would make a CD just for me, I would LOVE an another FIY or TCOML but as she's doing a CD for millions of people, I really prefer her to do something new, innovative...

 

Let's trust her - I'm sure she won't do things SHE wouldn't like to!!

 

And still... it's HER career so let her decide and see what comes out!

 

Wish you a lot of success with it, Céline!

[Céline's Blues]

I'm tempted to say that after Céline has discovered the joy of funky careless and catchy pop songs after singing ballad after ballad for 10 past years in the 90's she surely changed her mind about what SHE is "supposed" to sing as "Céline Dion". There is absolutely nothing wrong in singing Max Martin or David Foster as long as she genuinely elieves it is what she wants to do at the very moment of the recording. Even if some of us may not be fond of ANDHC she seemed really enjoying singing these different styles and mixing them up as if they were meant for the compilation "NOW. 87 feat Céline Dion".

 

 

One may criticize Céline for abandoning her English consistency with ANDHC and ATW but many fail to see that her consistency in recording has been heavily modelled after Whitney Houston's and Barbra Streisand's success. Frankly in English she never really knew what to do: When hip-hoppy dancy tunes were in she did Unison, for ballads and Madonna craze later she did "Refuse To Dance", "Did You give Enough Love". Tommy Mottola saw the future and they attacked the market with Falling Into You, a perfect mix of lusciously orchestrated pop with soaring vocals that were it at that time. On top of that they made her record "Let's Talk About Love" and when they album was about to flop around the world it was this ONE song and the movie Titanic itself that saved Céline's own concept of songs and duets from drowning. This one hauntingly beautiful Titanic tune saved LTAL from sinking and made the ballad craze last longer!

 

In 1999 ANDHC could have worked very well but not after that. And certainly not in March 2003 where it felt so forced to have another poppy product thrown onto the market. Yet it seems that Céline enjoyed her role as singer in every of its incarnations - she has been guided by the demand in general and this is what is happening now as well. They seemingly did some research and want a HIT album all the way.

 

Now everybody knows how double bottomed Céline can be... She says she can't do this, can't sing that, won't ever do that and sing that but the next day she is performing with NSYNC on stage and mimicking Cher's comeback with a single that came 5 years too late (IDAN)! I'm sure in 1996 when asked she would have said: "Yes, dance is cool but I couldn't do any dance." this is the same scheme all over now in 2007: "Yeah I can't do rap but I work with the hottest RNB and rap producers out there. Believe me, I am recording another ballad album with Snoop and Timbaland and Michael Cox." I mean I beg your pardon, Céline! No one is buying it!

 

I always tell if you enjoy recording music, just say it and I will gladly accept it cuzz as a fan of her I know she is capable of singing just anything, even if it will sound like Treat Her Like A Lady - a song that she must have ADORED to the second as it was not only released as a single but also she performed it live many many times. This only shows she would love to experiment but she is sometimes so LOST in her own diplomatic dodgyness that it seems she doesn't have a clear concept. Well she surely has! She wants to enjoy music she is recording and she wants to share this joy with her fans that are surely not all that keen on accepting this brighter side of hers at once but they won't have a choice anyway... She should be more candid and speak up what she is doing now: She wants to be the THUG'S *CENSORED* let her be!!! I'm sure it will be another fan chapter in her English career! A fun chapter she will beproudly defending on stage LIVE visiting many fans all around the word during her upcoming tournee!

[Julian]

Let's trust her - I'm sure she won't do things SHE wouldn't like to!!

And still... it's HER career so let her decide and see what comes out!

 

Wish you a lot of success with it, Céline!

[firebird]

But how expensive (or not) are these tickets?

People buy them, so they must be at a reasonnable price.

 

The only thing i want to say is that she need this album to speak to new and to many fans/peoples to do a big tour and a sell out tour in the english speaking area!#

She cant fill a stadion only with long time fans who wait since 1999.

I think it's fact!

It's hard to find something that speaks to many people. That's always a question of being at the right place at the right time and a lot of luck as well. People notice when someone tries too hard to please. It takes away a lot of originality and genuineness. Just take Barbra Streisand as an example. She did some sucessful pop mix of everything records in the late 70ies and 80ies. Then she said, I want to do what I really like (i.e. sing Broadway ballads) and people responded positively. Nobody knows what Celine really wants for her English music. She's always trying out things - a constant change of mind. She wins new people with one album, looses them with the next, wins another bunch with another one and so on.

The stadion thing is another one, there are also concert halls and arenas. Many locations she can easily fill.

[felixwhoals]

Maybe we shouldn't put any judgement right now and wait till few months to come. I'm sure we'll get some surprises from Celine!

[Davey84]

She wants to enjoy music she is recording and she wants to share this joy with her fans that are surely not all that keen on accepting this brighter side of hers at once but they won't have a choice anyway...

 

AMEN

[amelie]

OMG, i cant believe, that u have this meaning. How qualitty songs do u mean? U think that songs like ANDHC or IA is really qualitty?!!!

 

i dont think so, just remember how many english hits celine have on her english career: one or two?!!!!!

and how many hits have much more youngest artists like christina,pink, beyonce? TONS of hits!!! 4,5,6 hitsongs from every disc!! and celine? still nothing, still radio and people unfriendly songs, so i hope rene finally get clever and from many poor english albums (unknown to most people )yes we love that albums but only WE!!! celines fans)). we will have finally first celine succes

 

You gotta be kidding us, right? You dont consider TPOL, IYAST, WDMHBT, BATB, BYLM, PQTME(it is a great achievement for her english career), MHWGO, IYA, IACBTMN, TH, TTWIS, TLYM as hits?

 

you forgot TT which spent 14 weeks or something at no 1 in the UK (never happened again for any artist I think...)and of course there is ABM and OOR...

 

Look Pink, X-tina, Beyoncé are now a lot on the radio, because they are hot artists now... but Céline was a hot artist 10 years ago and played everywhere! In 10 years I don't think Pink, X-tina, Beyoncé will have much airplay, not as much as today... that's called life... you come, you go...

 

btw...The only songs I hear from X-tina is Beautiful.. not the other '4' hits.. and from pink the same story...

 

 

 

christina, pink, beyonce and others are "in" for 7 years now...i guess you should think it over

[reynolds]

yeah just what i was hopein for ROCK ROCK all the way . i what some soft rock songs. something like cher in the late 80s early 90s??? beyonce is just ok christina v good. pink rocks. but their not legends. they will long be forgotten befor the likes of CELINE- aretha-dolly parton- tina.. & a few more. celine is up their... Edited May 28, 2007 at 06:15 PM by reynolds

[SlovakClark]

SlovakClark - i'm sorry but i didnt understand a word from what u wrote

and i dont know what it is that u wanna say

 

 

oops, sorry but it is my poor english, u know

but maybe others can understand me

[Incognito_0112]

I think Celine could really pull it off with some rock-ballads a la bon jovi or something like that.

Also their rock up-tempo song Celine would have no problem to sing.

Not just songs from Bon jovi but that kinda style I think her voice could cope with.