EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:00 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:00 AM On 6/4/2026 at 7:23 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: Eurovision has nothing to do with this, and quite honestly…she didn’t need to make a statement about that either. There was NEVER confirmation that she would be there or was even planning to be. It was all tabloid fodder that we fell for, and allowed ourselves to be disappointed by when it didn’t happen. That’s on us, not her or her team. She has been noticeably distant from Eurovision for years, so we honestly should have known better. Who cares about a newsletter? The TeamCeline fan club stopped being exclusive to anything the moment they stopped charging for memberships. There has been nothing special provided to the fans via that channel in YEARS. Why should we have expected anything now? Dropping the news out of nowhere about this residency was probably the smartest thing they did. It has people talking about her. Whether it be good or bad, now she has to prove herself. And she will. I prefer this over a few “I’m doing fine, the best is yet to come” interviews where it always leaves us wondering. This launch was deliberate and definite. We now know this is happening. We got a new single out of it and know we’re to expect an album. There will be a media blitz where the inevitable questions about her health will be asked and answered. It doesn’t make sense to cookie crumb every single thing. Especially in this age of how news moves so fast to the next topic. Best to actually lump it into one large continuous blitz in a timely manner, leading up to the residency and album release to keep her on people’s minds at the right time. Saying 'Who cares about a newsletter? They haven’t provided anything special in years' is wild. You're basically arguing that because management has treated the official fan channel poorly for years, fans should just expect and accept terrible service. That is the definition of settling for less. Also, calling Eurovision 'tabloid fodder' is pure denial. We aren't talking about gossip blogs, the BBC reported on her private jet landing, and the director of Eurovision himself heavily implied she would be there. When the head of a massive international event uses an artist's name for hype, a competent PR team steps in immediately, they don't wait two months to say something and then blame fans for 'falling for it.' You're content with corporate excuses and zero communication, but a lot of fans actually expect basic professionalism and respect for their time and money. We can leave it at that. Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:13 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:13 AM On 6/4/2026 at 7:54 PM, LukeD said: I do not think you have a case here. Poor management and 9 million registers for a tour that sold out instantly and is estimated to generate 1 billion do not go together. The lack of communication and lack of a health update did not impact demand. Online scepticism did not impact it either. The truth of the matter is that millions wanted to see Celine live. Online complaints do not change that. There will always be people who will be sceptical about her health, her ability to perform, her relationship with Rene, her clothing line, her body weight, and so on. Means nothing. Especially as long as she is allowed to do what she loves and get highly paid for it. Demand was always going to be massive because Céline is a once-in-a-generation legend. The 9 million registrations and the billion-dollar estimates are a testament to her star power and the fans' loyalty, not to the quality of her team's execution. Also, you are making a massive false equivalence here. Conflating personal gossip about her weight or her late husband with legitimate concerns about her physical ability to perform a high-stakes residency is incredibly dishonest. One is invasive tabloid trash, the other is a realistic question about an artist with a severe neurological condition who has already cancelled years of shows. When fans are dropping thousands of dollars on travel and tickets, asking for a basic health assurance isn't gossip, it's standard consumer safety. Nobody is trying to change the fact that millions want to see her live. The point is that those millions of fans, who are driving that billion-dollar demand, deserve basic respect and transparent communication from the people running the show. Treating a fanbase strictly as a cash machine just because 'it sells anyway' isn't good management, it's just exploitation. Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:33 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:33 AM On 6/4/2026 at 8:00 PM, EmiOnyx said: Saying 'Who cares about a newsletter? They haven’t provided anything special in years' is wild. You're basically arguing that because management has treated the official fan channel poorly for years, fans should just expect and accept terrible service. That is the definition of settling for less. Also, calling Eurovision 'tabloid fodder' is pure denial. We aren't talking about gossip blogs, the BBC reported on her private jet landing, and the director of Eurovision himself heavily implied she would be there. When the head of a massive international event uses an artist's name for hype, a competent PR team steps in immediately, they don't wait two months to say something and then blame fans for 'falling for it.' You're content with corporate excuses and zero communication, but a lot of fans actually expect basic professionalism and respect for their time and money. We can leave it at that. Those media reports were a direct result tabloid fodder and online gossip. Who confirmed her plane? Did they have a passenger manifest? Any confirmed registration that it was her plane? No. The media just went with BS they read online and started reporting it as gospel. They took a random clip of PMLALS that someone posted online and said “new song!” The media really messed up. There was not one iota of confirmation from Celine or her team that she would be attending. Nada. Zilch. A newsletter that gets delivered to an email inbox? Who actually cares?! What year is this?! Anything pertinent is literally just posted on social media now. A very small amount of people are actually sitting around checking their email for newsletters in 2026, of at all. As far as “terrible service.” There is no “service” because we are no longer paying for a “service.” Her newsletter and fan club are outdated sources for any type of information. So yes, I do accept that. I never said I was content with the way her management handles everything. I’m just being realistic about the things people are complaining about. They should be using more current and modern ways of communication. They maybe should have a contract where someone is actually directly involved with the promoter. They tried to appease fans who missed out on tickets by announcing new dates and trying to get codes out. Ticketmaster crashed again because of demand and internet traffic. You act like Celine’s management can physically control all of this and make everything streamlined and perfect. Like I said…many moving parts and nobody can have full control over EVERYTHING. The sooner you realize that there are certain roles being played by different entities, the sooner you’ll understand what’s actually happening vs. the disproportionate reality that you are complaining about. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:36 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:36 AM (edited) And to add insult to injury, @EmiOnyx, you came back here a few posts ago to tell everyone you got tickets and that it ended up being an easy process for you LOL. Sooo…what are you even talking about? Edited June 5, 2026 at 12:36 AM by CelinesDIVO5 1 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:46 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:46 AM On 6/4/2026 at 8:33 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: Those media reports were a direct result tabloid fodder and online gossip. Who confirmed her plane? Did they have a passenger manifest? Any confirmed registration that it was her plane? No. The media just went with BS they read online and started reporting it as gospel. They took a random clip of PMLALS that someone posted online and said “new song!” The media really messed up. There was not one iota of confirmation from Celine or her team that she would be attending. Nada. Zilch. A newsletter that gets delivered to an email inbox? Who actually cares?! What year is this?! Anything pertinent is literally just posted on social media now. A very small amount of people are actually sitting around checking their email for newsletters in 2026, of at all. As far as “terrible service.” There is no “service” because we are no longer paying for a “service.” Her newsletter and fan club are outdated sources for any type of information. So yes, I do accept that. I never said I was content with the way her management handles everything. I’m just being realistic about the things people are complaining about. They should be using more current and modern ways of communication. They maybe should have a contract where someone is actually directly involved with the promoter. They tried to appease fans who missed out on tickets by announcing new dates and trying to get codes out. Ticketmaster crashed again because of demand and internet traffic. You act like Celine’s management can physically control all of this and make everything streamlined and perfect. Like I said…many moving parts and nobody can have full control over EVERYTHING. The sooner you realize that there are certain roles being played by different entities, the sooner you’ll understand what’s actually happening vs. the disproportionate reality that you are complaining about. Asking for a passenger manifest to validate a BBC report is a comedy routine. When the national broadcaster and the literal Director of Eurovision are publicly hyping up an appearance, a professional PR team shuts it down in 10 seconds with a single tweet if it's fake. Leaving a global rumor to fester for months while another organization uses your artist's name for ratings isn't 'defending her privacy', it's completely sleeping at the wheel. Also, trying to excuse the newsletter mess by saying 'it's 2026, nobody checks email' is a massive cop-out. The official team explicitly pushed fans to sign up for that newsletter right before the announcement. In the music industry, when management tells the core fanbase to sign up for an official channel before a massive tour or residency launch, the standard expectation is a fan presale code or priority access. Doing the exact opposite and sending a generic email two days after social media is a textbook logistical failure. No one is asking management to physically control Ticketmaster's servers. We are pointing out the parts they can control: their own PR response time, their own official newsletter campaigns, and the transparency they owe to paying customers. You can keep moving the goalposts and lowering the bar to justify poor execution, but expecting standard industry professionalism isn't asking for a 'perfect reality.' It's just having a shred of consumer dignity. On 6/4/2026 at 8:36 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: And to add insult to injury, @EmiOnyx, you came back here a few posts ago to tell everyone you got tickets and that it ended up being an easy process for you LOL. Sooo…what are you even talking about? The world doesn't revolve around my personal experience. Just because I personally managed to secure tickets doesn't mean I lose my ability to think critically or look at the bigger picture. Thousands of fans were left completely stranded, Ticketmaster crashed repeatedly, and the code distribution was a total mess with some people getting codes twice while others were left with absolutely nothing. I wasn't invited to any fan presale the first time around either. Having empathy for the rest of the fanbase and pointing out a dysfunctional system isn't a contradiction, it’s called being objective. I'm not going to sit here and praise terrible corporate management just because I happened to get lucky in a broken lottery. The point still stands. 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:16 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:16 AM (edited) Anyways, i heard there’s some issues from some fans having problem buying tickets from the long queue in a website. I know it happens when number of people goes to that website, it can crash the system. But I want to know if it’s already sold out? Because I just saw this issue on X, saying after waiting it just happened to be sold out. I just want to confirm if this is true. Edited June 5, 2026 at 02:17 AM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:01 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:01 AM On 6/4/2026 at 8:46 PM, EmiOnyx said: Asking for a passenger manifest to validate a BBC report is a comedy routine. When the national broadcaster and the literal Director of Eurovision are publicly hyping up an appearance, a professional PR team shuts it down in 10 seconds with a single tweet if it's fake. Leaving a global rumor to fester for months while another organization uses your artist's name for ratings isn't 'defending her privacy', it's completely sleeping at the wheel. Also, trying to excuse the newsletter mess by saying 'it's 2026, nobody checks email' is a massive cop-out. The official team explicitly pushed fans to sign up for that newsletter right before the announcement. In the music industry, when management tells the core fanbase to sign up for an official channel before a massive tour or residency launch, the standard expectation is a fan presale code or priority access. Doing the exact opposite and sending a generic email two days after social media is a textbook logistical failure. No one is asking management to physically control Ticketmaster's servers. We are pointing out the parts they can control: their own PR response time, their own official newsletter campaigns, and the transparency they owe to paying customers. You can keep moving the goalposts and lowering the bar to justify poor execution, but expecting standard industry professionalism isn't asking for a 'perfect reality.' It's just having a shred of consumer dignity. The world doesn't revolve around my personal experience. Just because I personally managed to secure tickets doesn't mean I lose my ability to think critically or look at the bigger picture. Thousands of fans were left completely stranded, Ticketmaster crashed repeatedly, and the code distribution was a total mess with some people getting codes twice while others were left with absolutely nothing. I wasn't invited to any fan presale the first time around either. Having empathy for the rest of the fanbase and pointing out a dysfunctional system isn't a contradiction, it’s called being objective. I'm not going to sit here and praise terrible corporate management just because I happened to get lucky in a broken lottery. The point still stands. It’s not about moving the goal posts or justifying the situation. I haven’t done either. I have simply accepted that we cannot change the outcome that has happened. Rather than allow myself to be angry and waste so much energy over what I cannot change, I simply choose to accept that this is the reality. Should things change? Yes. But what are we going to do to make that happen? Constantly bitching for 120 pages isn’t going to make the change. You have many opinions it seems…do you have any on how to make change so that this doesn’t continue happening? Or are you just going to continue being a record on repeat? Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:53 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:53 AM On 6/4/2026 at 11:01 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: It’s not about moving the goal posts or justifying the situation. I haven’t done either. I have simply accepted that we cannot change the outcome that has happened. Rather than allow myself to be angry and waste so much energy over what I cannot change, I simply choose to accept that this is the reality. Should things change? Yes. But what are we going to do to make that happen? Constantly bitching for 120 pages isn’t going to make the change. You have many opinions it seems…do you have any on how to make change so that this doesn’t continue happening? Or are you just going to continue being a record on repeat? Asking a fan on a discussion board for a corporate action plan is just another deflection. This is a forum, its entire purpose is for people to analyze and discuss what's happening, good or bad. Pretending to be above it all while spending just as much time and energy defending corporate mistakes on these exact same pages is pure irony. You choose passivity and call it 'acceptance,' some of us choose critical thinking. If consumers never voiced dissatisfaction, companies would never have a reason to fix their broken systems. We can leave it at that. 1 Quote
Alice Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:00 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:00 AM I'm very sorry for those of you who didn't manage to get tickets. I hope there will be plenty more opportunities. 3 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:35 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:35 AM On 6/5/2026 at 2:00 PM, Alice said: I'm very sorry for those of you who didn't manage to get tickets. I hope there will be plenty more opportunities. was it already sold out? Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:48 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:48 AM On 6/4/2026 at 11:53 PM, EmiOnyx said: Asking a fan on a discussion board for a corporate action plan is just another deflection. This is a forum, its entire purpose is for people to analyze and discuss what's happening, good or bad. Pretending to be above it all while spending just as much time and energy defending corporate mistakes on these exact same pages is pure irony. You choose passivity and call it 'acceptance,' some of us choose critical thinking. If consumers never voiced dissatisfaction, companies would never have a reason to fix their broken systems. We can leave it at that. Not everything has to be a corporate action plan. I simply meant, do you have an idea for a movement from fans that could possibly change future outcomes? I don’t need your PowerPoint presentation. I was asking if you had an idea for a grassroots movement from fans? Or are you going to go on for another 28 pages, complaining about the same things? 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Davey84 Posted June 5, 2026 at 07:11 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 07:11 AM On 6/5/2026 at 8:35 AM, jpatdeleon09 said: was it already sold out? For what i can see, there are still some single seat tickets left spread out over the dates. 1 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:15 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:15 AM On 6/5/2026 at 1:13 AM, EmiOnyx said: Demand was always going to be massive because Céline is a once-in-a-generation legend. The 9 million registrations and the billion-dollar estimates are a testament to her star power and the fans' loyalty, not to the quality of her team's execution. Also, you are making a massive false equivalence here. Conflating personal gossip about her weight or her late husband with legitimate concerns about her physical ability to perform a high-stakes residency is incredibly dishonest. One is invasive tabloid trash, the other is a realistic question about an artist with a severe neurological condition who has already cancelled years of shows. When fans are dropping thousands of dollars on travel and tickets, asking for a basic health assurance isn't gossip, it's standard consumer safety. Nobody is trying to change the fact that millions want to see her live. The point is that those millions of fans, who are driving that billion-dollar demand, deserve basic respect and transparent communication from the people running the show. Treating a fanbase strictly as a cash machine just because 'it sells anyway' isn't good management, it's just exploitation. Again, this is your biased way of viewing things. The marketing and promotion of her upcoming shows has been incredibly strong in France. Posters, the Eiffel Tower event, the scheduled announcement, media reporting again and again and again. So, when you attribute the massive demand only to her star power, you are being biased because you do not acknowledge very pragmatic steps that were undertaken. Also, the Olympics performance and the documentary were well-handled and now constitute career milestones for different reasons. These also added to her star power and her team was involved whether we like it or not. In terms of the concerns around her ability to perform, it was Celine who told us SPS affected her voice, it was Celine who told us she was working on vocal rehabilitation, it was Celine who told us she can now sing well and is ready to perform. In all these instances we took her word for it. This is your health update. From a marketing perspective, receipts of her vocal condition would only be necessary if she had received backlash over poor singing, which has never been the case. Or if she struggled to sell tickets, which again is not the case. Further to this, the health assurance you are requesting on the grounds of consumer safety is not feasible due to the unpredictable nature of SPS. Even physicians often cannot guarantee how symptoms will evolve over months or years. Demanding a guarantee of future performance capability effectively requires certainty about a medical condition that does not permit such certainty. Besides, from a legal perspective, it is always the case that tickets are sold based on the good-faith expectation that the event will occur. Consumer protection laws do not involve guarantees against unpredictable medical developments. This is not opinion, this is an objective depiction of the legal landscape. Quote
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:22 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:22 AM On 6/5/2026 at 4:53 AM, EmiOnyx said: You choose passivity and call it 'acceptance,' some of us choose critical thinking. If consumers never voiced dissatisfaction, companies would never have a reason to fix their broken systems. We can leave it at that. A positive response to a topic can be the result of critical thinking. You do not need to be negative to demonstrate receipts of critical thinking. 🤨 2 Quote
Coffeegirl Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:49 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:49 AM On 6/5/2026 at 4:53 AM, EmiOnyx said: Asking a fan on a discussion board for a corporate action plan is just another deflection. This is a forum, its entire purpose is for people to analyze and discuss what's happening, good or bad. Pretending to be above it all while spending just as much time and energy defending corporate mistakes on these exact same pages is pure irony. You choose passivity and call it 'acceptance,' some of us choose critical thinking. If consumers never voiced dissatisfaction, companies would never have a reason to fix their broken systems. We can leave it at that. 👀👀 is the critical thinking in the room with us? 4 Quote
Shamrock_1982 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:19 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:19 AM Not sure if he’s still a member of the forum but just seen this, this morning. He was also on the A new day DVD extras. 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:26 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:26 AM On 6/5/2026 at 5:19 PM, Shamrock_1982 said: Not sure if he’s still a member of the forum but just seen this, this morning. He was also on the A new day DVD extras. Yes, I remember him. I first saw him at A New Day… saying he went to school to learn French so he could be able to understand Céline’s French songs. Then, I saw him again at Une Seule Fois 2013. Yeah! He’s a loyal Céline fan. I remember both him and Ramona being loyal fans. I wonder how Ramona is doing now.. Quote
valeriociarrocchi Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:26 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:26 AM Guys Im desperate trying to buy tickets for May, 8 which is my birthday! I’m on La Defense Site but I keep trying adding tickets to my basket and nothing happens…anybody can help me? O does anyone have access to AXS/FNAC? Quote
Shamrock_1982 Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:36 AM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:36 AM Ramona reading this be like, hold my beer lol. Ramona is good I still check in with her and she’s also going to see Céline this year. 6 Quote
rodrigofreitas Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:13 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:13 PM On 6/5/2026 at 6:19 AM, Shamrock_1982 said: Not sure if he’s still a member of the forum but just seen this, this morning. He was also on the A new day DVD extras. He is Stevam Peric, he is Brazilian. Owner of the website www.celinedion.com.br Quote
Els Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:24 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 12:24 PM On 6/4/2026 at 9:10 PM, Shamrock_1982 said: They asked us to sign up for the news/exclusives on all her socials earlier this year. Not only did nothing hit or inboxes after them promoting this on her platforms but there was also no “TC Presale” like previous years… which worked really well. So they do look like amateurs and they had a chance to fix things somewhat for these new dates but decided to do nothing, like I knew they would. Yes she’s a brand/product but they also have to be seen to be looking after the fans. The previous s*** show of how ticketing was handled made the news on various outlets also apart from the positive news that she sold out. Anyway, let’s hope any future dates are somewhere other than Paris! The sign up on socials thing is perplexing. But that stuff is all on Sony, which handles her mailing lists. And it doesn't have anything to do with Paris? I get the frustration but find it also frustrating to reduce everything to her and her "inner circle" or team messing this up. I find it really heartbreaking to think that if Céline is at all aware of the response to her return, she'd see mainly complaining and always begging for more, more, more. She doesn't deserve to be made to feel like a disappointment, and especially not after giving us yet another great gift, just of her presence and return at all. 4 Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:16 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:16 PM On 6/5/2026 at 2:48 AM, CelinesDIVO5 said: Not everything has to be a corporate action plan. I simply meant, do you have an idea for a movement from fans that could possibly change future outcomes? I don’t need your PowerPoint presentation. I was asking if you had an idea for a grassroots movement from fans? Or are you going to go on for another 28 pages, complaining about the same things? A grassroots activist movement for a concert ticket rollout? It’s a pop music discussion board, not a political rally. Before I even started posting here, multiple members on this very forum were actively discussing how poorly this management handles things, to the point where people were literally planning to co-write an email listing all the operational failures to send to their team. You don't need to interview me or ask for a manifesto just because you dislike critical feedback. If sharing a standard opinion on a forum is this deeply bothersome to you, you are more than free to scroll past. Enjoy the residency. Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:20 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:20 PM On 6/5/2026 at 4:15 AM, LukeD said: Again, this is your biased way of viewing things. The marketing and promotion of her upcoming shows has been incredibly strong in France. Posters, the Eiffel Tower event, the scheduled announcement, media reporting again and again and again. So, when you attribute the massive demand only to her star power, you are being biased because you do not acknowledge very pragmatic steps that were undertaken. Also, the Olympics performance and the documentary were well-handled and now constitute career milestones for different reasons. These also added to her star power and her team was involved whether we like it or not. In terms of the concerns around her ability to perform, it was Celine who told us SPS affected her voice, it was Celine who told us she was working on vocal rehabilitation, it was Celine who told us she can now sing well and is ready to perform. In all these instances we took her word for it. This is your health update. From a marketing perspective, receipts of her vocal condition would only be necessary if she had received backlash over poor singing, which has never been the case. Or if she struggled to sell tickets, which again is not the case. Further to this, the health assurance you are requesting on the grounds of consumer safety is not feasible due to the unpredictable nature of SPS. Even physicians often cannot guarantee how symptoms will evolve over months or years. Demanding a guarantee of future performance capability effectively requires certainty about a medical condition that does not permit such certainty. Besides, from a legal perspective, it is always the case that tickets are sold based on the good-faith expectation that the event will occur. Consumer protection laws do not involve guarantees against unpredictable medical developments. This is not opinion, this is an objective depiction of the legal landscape. On 6/5/2026 at 4:22 AM, LukeD said: A positive response to a topic can be the result of critical thinking. You do not need to be negative to demonstrate receipts of critical thinking. 🤨 Of course a positive stance can come from critical thinking, but only when the facts support it. Praise is earned, not given by default. Analyzing verifiable logistical failures, like codes sent in duplicate while others got nothing, or an official newsletter blast arriving days after general sales, isn't 'being negative.' It's just stating what happened. Redefining basic consumer feedback as 'negativity' just to avoid discussing actual operational mistakes isn't critical thinking either, it’s just comfort-seeking. You can be perfectly happy with the situation, but pointing out objective flaws remains completely valid Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:34 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 02:34 PM It’s fascinating how on this forum, the moment you point out objective logistical failures, you’re instantly labeled as 'negative'. Apparently, we are just supposed to shut up, say amen to everything, and be grateful we are even allowed to buy a ticket. Let’s be real: keeping her health status shrouded in absolute mystery is a deliberate corporate tactic to weaponize FOMO. It creates an artificial sense of urgency that pressures people into panic-buying out of pure fear. Using severe illness as a scarcity marketing tool to manipulate fans' emotional attachment is peak cynicism. Setting the bar so low that you willingly accept being treated like a cash cow, and then turning on any fan who dares to expect basic professionalism, isn't loyalty. It's just blind consumer submission. You can keep defending poor management to comfort yourselves. Enjoy the residency. 1 1 Quote
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:50 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:50 PM (edited) On 6/5/2026 at 3:34 PM, EmiOnyx said: It’s fascinating how on this forum, the moment you point out objective logistical failures, you’re instantly labeled as 'negative'. Apparently, we are just supposed to shut up, say amen to everything, and be grateful we are even allowed to buy a ticket. You got this wrong. I will respond to the rest of your comment later, but let me clear something out first. You implied CelinesDIVO5 lacked critical thinking. You said he chose passivity and acceptance whereas some others, like yourself, chose critical thinking. Therefore, it is YOU who resorted into a condescending statement. Me, reading this, I responded that positivity (and therefore acceptance, to use your own words) can be the result of critical thinking. And that you do not need to be negative to come off as critical. This was not a jab at you. This is how critical analysis skills work in general. And I said that because many people think that to be critical you need to critique something. This is what I wanted to clarify, and it definitely was not my intention to label you as negative. Edited June 5, 2026 at 03:52 PM by LukeD 1 Quote
AdrienneM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:54 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:54 PM The irony does not escape me that someone who has spent the past 4 days bemoaning further Paris shows and anyone who was supportive of/excited by the idea, and acting as if Celine personally sent a video to the citizens of Montreal telling them to eat glass, *still* woke up first thing in the morning to buy tickets for said shows. That’s all. 3 Quote
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:55 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 03:55 PM On 6/5/2026 at 3:20 PM, EmiOnyx said: Redefining basic consumer feedback as 'negativity' just to avoid discussing actual operational mistakes isn't critical thinking either, it’s just comfort-seeking. You can be perfectly happy with the situation, but pointing out objective flaws remains completely valid I did not dismiss any concerns. I simply explained that the health assurance you requested on the grounds of consumer safety is not feasible due to the unpredictable nature of SPS. How you think that I am seeking comfort when I am simply explaining how consumer laws operate is beyond me. 1 Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 04:55 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 04:55 PM (edited) On 6/5/2026 at 11:55 AM, LukeD said: I did not dismiss any concerns. I simply explained that the health assurance you requested on the grounds of consumer safety is not feasible due to the unpredictable nature of SPS. How you think that I am seeking comfort when I am simply explaining how consumer laws operate is beyond me. You completely misunderstood my point. I’m not asking for a legal or medical guarantee, nor am I asking to see her private medical files. I’m talking about basic communication and transparency. When people are investing massive amounts of money during a chaotic rollout, it is entirely reasonable to expect a simple, transparent update from her team on how things are being managed. Acknowledging the situation and offering a bit of clarity isn't a legal issue, it's basic professionalism and respect for the community. On 6/5/2026 at 11:54 AM, AdrienneM said: The irony does not escape me that someone who has spent the past 4 days bemoaning further Paris shows and anyone who was supportive of/excited by the idea, and acting as if Celine personally sent a video to the citizens of Montreal telling them to eat glass, *still* woke up first thing in the morning to buy tickets for said shows. That’s all. It’s incredibly telling that you have to completely ignore 95% of my message just to fixate on a single point about Paris, a point I already moved on from and conceded to another member several posts ago. Talk about bad faith. You can keep cherry-picking my words to build your little dramatic narrative and farm likes, but the facts about how poorly this was handled remain. Enjoy the echo chamber, I'm done wasting my time here. That's all. Edited June 5, 2026 at 04:55 PM by EmiOnyx 1 Quote
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 05:48 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 05:48 PM On 6/5/2026 at 5:55 PM, EmiOnyx said: You completely misunderstood my point. I’m not asking for a legal or medical guarantee, nor am I asking to see her private medical files. I’m talking about basic communication and transparency. When people are investing massive amounts of money during a chaotic rollout, it is entirely reasonable to expect a simple, transparent update from her team on how things are being managed. Acknowledging the situation and offering a bit of clarity isn't a legal issue, it's basic professionalism and respect for the community. You asked for basic health assurance, framing it as standard consumer safety. And I explained to you that we have received three thematic updates so far. When Celine officially announced her diagnosis in 2022, when she said she was working on managing SPS and vocal rehabilitation in 2024, and when she said she is feeling really well and ready to be on stage in 2026. These are the updates. And I explained why from a marketing perspective there is no need for more updates, and then why from a legal perspective, a guarantee is not possible. Now you are talking on a basis that is both instrumental and sentimental - you paid money (instrumental element) and therefore expect a health update from her team or else you feel exploited (sentimental element). Because for some reason, it is not enough to have Celine herself say that she is feeling great. Probably you need to fill the gaps - what she did to get to this level. This is something that will probably be answered in interviews when in Paris. So, you have to be patient. 2 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted June 5, 2026 at 05:49 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 05:49 PM I like pie. 2 4 Quote
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