LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:01 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:01 PM On 6/5/2026 at 3:34 PM, EmiOnyx said: Let’s be real: keeping her health status shrouded in absolute mystery is a deliberate corporate tactic to weaponize FOMO. It creates an artificial sense of urgency that pressures people into panic-buying out of pure fear. Using severe illness as a scarcity marketing tool to manipulate fans' emotional attachment is peak cynicism. Setting the bar so low that you willingly accept being treated like a cash cow, and then turning on any fan who dares to expect basic professionalism, isn't loyalty. It's just blind consumer submission. You can keep defending poor management to comfort yourselves. Enjoy the residency. Three major issues with this post. 1) You invite us to keep it real and instead of presenting facts with evidence, you resort to theorizing. 2) You conflate privacy with manipulation, disregarding the many reasons information regarding SPS is limited. Medical privacy, uncertainty, legal considerations, to name a few. 3) You use a narrative that is both offensive and dismissive. ''Weaponize FOMO'', ''cash cows'', ''blind consumer submission''. You are not only criticizing managing decisions. You frame anyone who disagrees with you as irrational, submissive, and gullible. So basically, you insult people and you shut down discussion. 1 Quote
Nmj Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:13 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:13 PM I’m so lost in this thread and not gonna lie, haven’t read any of the last 2 pages because my brain can’t handle it! 2 1 Quote
Els Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:32 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:32 PM On 6/5/2026 at 7:49 PM, SuperLove4Celine said: I like pie. Haaa I really wanted to find you a pic of Céline and pie... best I can do is Claudette and her tartes au sucre 😂 2 5 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:57 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:57 PM On 6/5/2026 at 12:55 PM, EmiOnyx said: You completely misunderstood my point. I’m not asking for a legal or medical guarantee, nor am I asking to see her private medical files. I’m talking about basic communication and transparency. When people are investing massive amounts of money during a chaotic rollout, it is entirely reasonable to expect a simple, transparent update from her team on how things are being managed. Acknowledging the situation and offering a bit of clarity isn't a legal issue, it's basic professionalism and respect for the community. It’s incredibly telling that you have to completely ignore 95% of my message just to fixate on a single point about Paris, a point I already moved on from and conceded to another member several posts ago. Talk about bad faith. You can keep cherry-picking my words to build your little dramatic narrative and farm likes, but the facts about how poorly this was handled remain. Enjoy the echo chamber, I'm done wasting my time here. That's all. But it’s been said several times, in response to you specifically, that neither Celine nor a touring conglomerate Live Nation would announce such a residency without a high percentage of guarantee that she could deliver. I definitely believe her doctor would advise against it if she didn’t believe that Celine was fit enough to execute this. I’m willing to bet that Live Nation required medical clearance before even committing to this residency. Celine has given proper updates. Diagnosis Documentary Updates in interviews that clearly showed her in better shape than she was in the documentary Tour announcement where she assured us that she is ready to go. You say you’re not looking for medical records. What more do you need then? 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:58 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 06:58 PM (edited) On 6/5/2026 at 2:13 PM, Nmj said: I’m so lost in this thread and not gonna lie, haven’t read any of the last 2 pages because my brain can’t handle it! It’s honestly just like talking to thatsjusttheteacherinme, but this person has better vocabulary. Edited June 5, 2026 at 06:59 PM by CelinesDIVO5 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 07:44 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 07:44 PM On 6/5/2026 at 2:57 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: But it’s been said several times, in response to you specifically, that neither Celine nor a touring conglomerate Live Nation would announce such a residency without a high percentage of guarantee that she could deliver. I definitely believe her doctor would advise against it if she didn’t believe that Celine was fit enough to execute this. I’m willing to bet that Live Nation required medical clearance before even committing to this residency. Celine has given proper updates. Diagnosis Documentary Updates in interviews that clearly showed her in better shape than she was in the documentary Tour announcement where she assured us that she is ready to go. You say you’re not looking for medical records. What more do you need then? Listing 'proper updates' is laughable. Giving a few promotional interviews that date all the way back to the documentary promotion doesn't change the fact that she maintained a complete radio silence for two solid years, and it has been the exact same silence since the concert announcement. We still haven't actually heard from her. She has always prided herself on being an open book with her fans, but now it's the exact opposite. I'm not sure if this sudden walls-up approach is a personal choice to protect herself or just a calculated corporate marketing strategy. Obviously, if she's doing shows, her doctors and promoters are confident. But they aren't the ones paying for the concert tickets, the flights, and the hotels. The fans are. Expecting basic, genuine communication and professional transparency is the bare minimum. The examples I brought up are just objective facts. If you are satisfied with being treated like an afterthought, good for you. But this rollout was poorly handled, and copying Taylor Swift's marketing playbook doesn't make it genius, it just highlights the cruel lack of authenticity. 1 Quote
Állex Sodi Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:28 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:28 PM Is it seriously still surprising to people, at this point in time, how capitalism works? Yes, they’re doing everything they can to profit from this situation, including creating a sense of urgency around this residency. But that’s how the industry works. Again, capitalism. Profit on top of profit. Unless you’re selling your art on a beach somewhere, capitalizing on people’s emotions is how the entertainment industry operates. That doesn’t mean Celine or her team are evil, dishonest, or anything like that. We know everything there is to know at this point, or at least everything that concerns us, because privacy matters in a situation like this. Unless she turns out to be the first miracle case of SPS, her condition remains unpredictable, even if it appears manageable for now. You’re always free to support independent or alternative artists instead. But following a major artist backed by one of the biggest companies in the industry while expecting empathy and compassion to be the driving force behind business decisions is, frankly, pretty naive. 3 1 Quote
Philippe Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:38 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 08:38 PM The new 10 shows are sold out? Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:10 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:10 PM On 6/5/2026 at 4:28 PM, Állex Sodi said: Is it seriously still surprising to people, at this point in time, how capitalism works? Yes, they’re doing everything they can to profit from this situation, including creating a sense of urgency around this residency. But that’s how the industry works. Again, capitalism. Profit on top of profit. Unless you’re selling your art on a beach somewhere, capitalizing on people’s emotions is how the entertainment industry operates. That doesn’t mean Celine or her team are evil, dishonest, or anything like that. We know everything there is to know at this point, or at least everything that concerns us, because privacy matters in a situation like this. Unless she turns out to be the first miracle case of SPS, her condition remains unpredictable, even if it appears manageable for now. You’re always free to support independent or alternative artists instead. But following a major artist backed by one of the biggest companies in the industry while expecting empathy and compassion to be the driving force behind business decisions is, frankly, pretty naive. All of this. Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:15 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:15 PM On 6/5/2026 at 3:44 PM, EmiOnyx said: Listing 'proper updates' is laughable. Giving a few promotional interviews that date all the way back to the documentary promotion doesn't change the fact that she maintained a complete radio silence for two solid years, and it has been the exact same silence since the concert announcement. We still haven't actually heard from her. She has always prided herself on being an open book with her fans, but now it's the exact opposite. I'm not sure if this sudden walls-up approach is a personal choice to protect herself or just a calculated corporate marketing strategy. Obviously, if she's doing shows, her doctors and promoters are confident. But they aren't the ones paying for the concert tickets, the flights, and the hotels. The fans are. Expecting basic, genuine communication and professional transparency is the bare minimum. The examples I brought up are just objective facts. If you are satisfied with being treated like an afterthought, good for you. But this rollout was poorly handled, and copying Taylor Swift's marketing playbook doesn't make it genius, it just highlights the cruel lack of authenticity. The point is that if Celine, her doctors, her promoters and her management are ALL confident, that should be enough! We don’t need frequent health updates. We get what we get, when Celine and her team feel it’s appropriate to say something. We aren’t owed full transparency or a message in the form of a greeting card. She put out a video message and said she feels great. That should suffice. Enjoy the residency. 😉 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
EmiOnyx Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:37 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:37 PM On 6/5/2026 at 4:28 PM, Állex Sodi said: Is it seriously still surprising to people, at this point in time, how capitalism works? Yes, they’re doing everything they can to profit from this situation, including creating a sense of urgency around this residency. But that’s how the industry works. Again, capitalism. Profit on top of profit. Unless you’re selling your art on a beach somewhere, capitalizing on people’s emotions is how the entertainment industry operates. That doesn’t mean Celine or her team are evil, dishonest, or anything like that. We know everything there is to know at this point, or at least everything that concerns us, because privacy matters in a situation like this. Unless she turns out to be the first miracle case of SPS, her condition remains unpredictable, even if it appears manageable for now. You’re always free to support independent or alternative artists instead. But following a major artist backed by one of the biggest companies in the industry while expecting empathy and compassion to be the driving force behind business decisions is, frankly, pretty naive. Thank you for completely proving my point. Admitting that they are deliberately creating an artificial sense of urgency to profit off people's emotions and then defending it with a cynical 'well, that’s capitalism', is exactly the kind of blind consumer submission I was talking about. Trying to excuse this by saying she's a major artist backed by a huge company makes zero sense. She has been a global megastar for decades, yet she always prided herself on being an open book with her fans. This sudden cold, walls-up corporate approach is a massive shift from how she historically treated her public. Imagine being so checked out that you willingly normalize corporate manipulation and call other fans 'naive' for expecting a bare minimum of transparency and consumer respect. On 6/5/2026 at 5:15 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: The point is that if Celine, her doctors, her promoters and her management are ALL confident, that should be enough! We don’t need frequent health updates. We get what we get, when Celine and her team feel it’s appropriate to say something. We aren’t owed full transparency or a message in the form of a greeting card. She put out a video message and said she feels great. That should suffice. Enjoy the residency. 😉 Please, learn to differentiate between demanding 'frequent health updates' and calling out a literal two-year blackout. 🙄 1 Quote
ordinary fan Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:44 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:44 PM On 6/5/2026 at 11:15 PM, CelinesDIVO5 said: The point is that if Celine, her doctors, her promoters and her management are ALL confident, that should be enough! We don’t need frequent health updates. We get what we get, when Celine and her team feel it’s appropriate to say something. We aren’t owed full transparency or a message in the form of a greeting card. She put out a video message and said she feels great. That should suffice. Enjoy the residency. 😉 And I think she will give us more details about everything in interviews closer to the shows in late august or September. Maybe there's even more to talk about like the rumored new French album or even an English one too 2 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:45 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:45 PM On 6/5/2026 at 5:37 PM, EmiOnyx said: Thank you for completely proving my point. Admitting that they are deliberately creating an artificial sense of urgency to profit off people's emotions and then defending it with a cynical 'well, that’s capitalism', is exactly the kind of blind consumer submission I was talking about. Trying to excuse this by saying she's a major artist backed by a huge company makes zero sense. She has been a global megastar for decades, yet she always prided herself on being an open book with her fans. This sudden cold, walls-up corporate approach is a massive shift from how she historically treated her public. Imagine being so checked out that you willingly normalize corporate manipulation and call other fans 'naive' for expecting a bare minimum of transparency and consumer respect. Please, learn to differentiate between demanding 'frequent health updates' and calling out a literal two-year blackout. 🙄 If there’s nothing to say, there’s nothing to say. Neither she nor her team are required to say anything, even if there is something to say. Is she supposed to update us during these 2 years of treatments if there’s no change, or if results are inconclusive? We are not OWED any of that. You seem to think that we are. There is also the business side to all of this. Why is she just going to divulge information for free when journalists and publications will be lining up like crazy to PAY for an exclusive interview? She’s going to have an entire story to tell, and if she kept breadcrumbing us during that “2 year blackout,” then what is she going to have to say when it comes time to promote her first album and concert series since her diagnosis? It’s all very pragmatic and deliberate. 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:51 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:51 PM On 6/5/2026 at 5:44 PM, ordinary fan said: And I think she will give us more details about everything in interviews closer to the shows in late august or September. Maybe there's even more to talk about like the rumored new French album or even an English one too 100%. It only makes sense for her to say what she wants to say, when there is also more reason to be public (albums, concerts). Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
ordinary fan Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:53 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 09:53 PM Well I think the point is that many here including myself would like to be informed a little more, like more details about her health, the process from the ending of the documentary until now and so on. But we have to take what we get. It's true that she owes us nothing more than what she believes is enough information for the whole world to know and I'm not at all mad at her, I'm so grateful for her return... 3 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:00 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:00 PM On 6/5/2026 at 5:53 PM, ordinary fan said: Well I think the point is that many here including myself would like to be informed a little more, like more details about her health, the process from the ending of the documentary until now and so on. But we have to take what we get. It's true that she owes us nothing more than what she believes is enough information for the whole world to know and I'm not at all mad at her, I'm so grateful for her return... Of course! We all want to know! But the reality is that she’s not going to just offer up information without having something else to attach her appearances and interviews to. It’s part of marketing. She is a business, after all. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
LukeD Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:13 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:13 PM (edited) And it makes sense to expect that Celine will give us an update in autumn that the promotional appearances should begin. I mean, she disclosed the diagnosis in 2022 but only in 2024 she gave details of what her experience with SPS looked like. Similarly, she spoke about her early 00s hiatus in 2002, when she was officially back. And when she took a break from performing in 2014 to look after Rene, we only received a proper update of what her experience was like the next year when she resumed the Vegas residency. Edited June 5, 2026 at 10:14 PM by LukeD 5 Quote
Coffeegirl Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:33 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:33 PM On 6/5/2026 at 10:37 PM, EmiOnyx said: Thank you for completely proving my point. Admitting that they are deliberately creating an artificial sense of urgency to profit off people's emotions and then defending it with a cynical 'well, that’s capitalism', is exactly the kind of blind consumer submission I was talking about. Trying to excuse this by saying she's a major artist backed by a huge company makes zero sense. She has been a global megastar for decades, yet she always prided herself on being an open book with her fans. This sudden cold, walls-up corporate approach is a massive shift from how she historically treated her public. Imagine being so checked out that you willingly normalize corporate manipulation and call other fans 'naive' for expecting a bare minimum of transparency and consumer respect. Please, learn to differentiate between demanding 'frequent health updates' and calling out a literal two-year blackout. 🙄 I truly wonder how some of you would have coped in the 90’s when the World Wide Web was in its infancy and social media wasn’t a thing. If you actually utilised these critical thinking skills you’d understand that major events such as concerts and residencies require a huge amount of monetary backing & insurance. No major corporation is going to risk putting a huge amount of money behind this without insurance that Celine is in-fact well enough to pull it off. The fact these shows are even happening should be insurance enough that her team and those who have put money behind it are certain she’s well enough to do them. We’ve just had an announcement of not 1 but 2 residencies in Paris, new imagery, a personal video from her, herself announcing the shows and new music all whilst she’s still managing a degenerative disease, What more do you want? it’s giving parasocial relationship 2 4 Quote
ewan123 Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:38 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:38 PM So, as this thread is for this mini residency, do we have any news on how did the additional concerts sell? Given the limited enthusiasm here and the fact that many of us managed somehow to get tickets for the first run, I can not tell how did the demand go. Quote
ErwinG Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:50 PM Posted June 5, 2026 at 10:50 PM On 6/5/2026 at 4:38 PM, Philippe said: The new 10 shows are sold out? Supposedly still able to buy tickets until 11.59PM tonight (Paris Time) so we will probably hear if there are seats still available for any Public Sale Quote
EmiOnyx Posted June 6, 2026 at 12:03 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 12:03 AM On 6/5/2026 at 6:33 PM, Coffeegirl said: I truly wonder how some of you would have coped in the 90’s when the World Wide Web was in its infancy and social media wasn’t a thing. If you actually utilised these critical thinking skills you’d understand that major events such as concerts and residencies require a huge amount of monetary backing & insurance. No major corporation is going to risk putting a huge amount of money behind this without insurance that Celine is in-fact well enough to pull it off. The fact these shows are even happening should be insurance enough that her team and those who have put money behind it are certain she’s well enough to do them. We’ve just had an announcement of not 1 but 2 residencies in Paris, new imagery, a personal video from her, herself announcing the shows and new music all whilst she’s still managing a degenerative disease, What more do you want? it’s giving parasocial relationship We are in 2026, not 1995. Trying to compare a modern global rollout where fans are expected to instantly risk thousands of dollars, to the pre-internet era is completely irrelevant. The financial high-stakes for consumers have entirely changed, and so have the standards for professional communication. And for the record, even in the 90s, she did countless interviews and was vastly more accessible than this current wall of silence. Also, accusing me of having a 'parasocial relationship' is pure irony. Demanding basic professional ethics and proper logistics from a multi-billion dollar entertainment industry is the exact opposite of parasocial, it's a strictly transactional expectation. I am looking at this as a customer buying an incredibly expensive service. The ones defending a corporate machine and accepting a 'we get what we get' treatment out of blind loyalty are the ones deep in a parasocial mindset. Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 6, 2026 at 12:25 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 12:25 AM On 6/5/2026 at 8:03 PM, EmiOnyx said: We are in 2026, not 1995. Trying to compare a modern global rollout where fans are expected to instantly risk thousands of dollars, to the pre-internet era is completely irrelevant. The financial high-stakes for consumers have entirely changed, and so have the standards for professional communication. And for the record, even in the 90s, she did countless interviews and was vastly more accessible than this current wall of silence. Also, accusing me of having a 'parasocial relationship' is pure irony. Demanding basic professional ethics and proper logistics from a multi-billion dollar entertainment industry is the exact opposite of parasocial, it's a strictly transactional expectation. I am looking at this as a customer buying an incredibly expensive service. The ones defending a corporate machine and accepting a 'we get what we get' treatment out of blind loyalty are the ones deep in a parasocial mindset. You cannot compare the visibility of Celine in the 1990s, to the visibility of Celine in 2026. Of course she was much more accessible in the 90’s. She was in her prime and at the peak of her career. She is no longer a top 40 artist. “Courage” was her first Billboard 200 #1 since ANDHC. This is just the natural progression of a pop singer’s career. Yes, her concerts will have high demands for tickets, but so do other legacy acts who are past the hey day of their careers. Doesn’t mean they’re going to be keeping up with all of the acts that are having their moment. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
LukeD Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:16 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:16 AM (edited) On 6/6/2026 at 1:03 AM, EmiOnyx said: We are in 2026, not 1995. Trying to compare a modern global rollout where fans are expected to instantly risk thousands of dollars, to the pre-internet era is completely irrelevant. The financial high-stakes for consumers have entirely changed, and so have the standards for professional communication. And for the record, even in the 90s, she did countless interviews and was vastly more accessible than this current wall of silence. Also, accusing me of having a 'parasocial relationship' is pure irony. Demanding basic professional ethics and proper logistics from a multi-billion dollar entertainment industry is the exact opposite of parasocial, it's a strictly transactional expectation. I am looking at this as a customer buying an incredibly expensive service. The ones defending a corporate machine and accepting a 'we get what we get' treatment out of blind loyalty are the ones deep in a parasocial mindset. Nonsense. We are not expected to risk anything. To buy a ticket is not an obligation, it is a choice. And the risk is always there. It was there during the TCWT when the first symptoms appeared, all through the 'Celine' residency, the mini tours, and then the CWT. And it is clear that the situation is affecting you on a personal level. You are experiencing strong emotional reactions evidenced in the harsh language you have been using. You are feeling sad, frustrated, exploited, almost betrayed, because you did not get what you wanted when you wanted it. The fact that you attempt to come off as neutral, framing this as a transactional expectation, actually confirms my point. You are basically entitled to her privacy, you are feeling hurt when Celine behaves in ways that do not much your expectations, and your reactions are very strong. These are signs of a para-social relationship. Choosing to attend a tour, taking a seat back, enjoying the moment, and patiently waiting for updates is NOT a sign of a para-social mindset. It's called adulting. Edited June 6, 2026 at 01:17 AM by LukeD 2 Quote
Nmj Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:31 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:31 AM On 6/5/2026 at 9:16 PM, LukeD said: Nonsense. We are not expected to risk anything. To buy a ticket is not an obligation, it is a choice. And the risk is always there. It was there during the TCWT when the first symptoms appeared, all through the 'Celine' residency, the mini tours, and then the CWT. And it is clear that the situation is affecting you on a personal level. You are experiencing strong emotional reactions evidenced in the harsh language you have been using. You are feeling sad, frustrated, exploited, almost betrayed, because you did not get what you wanted when you wanted it. The fact that you attempt to come off as neutral, framing this as a transactional expectation, actually confirms my point. You are basically entitled to her privacy, you are feeling hurt when Celine behaves in ways that do not much your expectations, and your reactions are very strong. These are signs of a para-social relationship. Choosing to attend a tour, taking a seat back, enjoying the moment, and patiently waiting for updates is NOT a sign of a para-social mindset. It's called adulting. I agree that people buy tickets to a show at their own risk… they fly to Paris or anywhere else at their own risk and worst case scenario they just enjoy a vacation if the concerts don’t happen. This was always the case, especially in Vegas. It was always a “gamble” to go to Vegas and travel to see Céline, no pun intended lol. BUT… we can’t pretend and act like their team isn’t dumb, they are… and they are opportunistic with the fans.. and it’s been this way since Rene stepped down as manager. He was truly the one in management who cared about the fans… I’ve met Rene multiple times and the amount of questions he’s asked me as a “fan” about my experience and what the team could do better was always very important to him. I remember one time in Vegas he asked me what they could do better and my response to him was… maybe add more songs from her catalog and then we got the show opener of “A New Day Has Come” instead of “Nature Boy”… not saying it’s because of me but if he asked me multiple times I’m sure he asked plenty of others… He is beyond missed by not only Celine and her family but especially also the fans, and it becomes more and more obvious with each passing year. 1 1 Quote
LukeD Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:40 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:40 AM (edited) On 6/6/2026 at 2:31 AM, Nmj said: I agree that people buy tickets to a show at their own risk… they fly to Paris or anywhere else at their own risk and worst case scenario they just enjoy a vacation if the concerts don’t happen. This was always the case, especially in Vegas. It was always a “gamble” to go to Vegas and travel to see Céline, no pun intended lol. BUT… we can’t pretend and act like their team isn’t dumb, they are… and they are opportunistic with the fans.. and it’s been this way since Rene stepped down as manager. Yes, but this is not the point of the discussion. Whether the team makes mistakes or not. The point of the discussion is how far one reads those mistakes and how much importance assigns to them. I can list you several mistakes, but I will not explode over them. For example, to me it is a poor show that Peabo Bryson died and we only got an IG story. Very inconsiderate IMO. I think a thorough post was necessary. End of story. I will not moan over it. Edited June 6, 2026 at 01:41 AM by LukeD 2 1 Quote
Nmj Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:46 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:46 AM (edited) On 6/5/2026 at 9:40 PM, LukeD said: Yes, but this is not the point of the discussion. Whether the team makes mistakes or not. The point of the discussion is how far one reads those mistakes and how much importance assigns to them. I can list you several mistakes, but I will not explode over them. For example, to me it is a poor show that Peabo Bryson died and we only got an IG story. Very inconsiderate IMO. I think a thorough post was necessary. End of story. I will not moan over it. It was in poor taste. There’s no reason they shouldn’t have honored him with more intent. He’s part of one of Celine’s biggest international career moments and attached to her first Grammy win. Again, if Rene was still her manager it wouldn’t have happened. But he’s gone, rest in peace to a good man, manager and a team. Edited June 6, 2026 at 01:51 AM by Nmj 2 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:56 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 01:56 AM On 6/5/2026 at 9:31 PM, Nmj said: I agree that people buy tickets to a show at their own risk… they fly to Paris or anywhere else at their own risk and worst case scenario they just enjoy a vacation if the concerts don’t happen. This was always the case, especially in Vegas. It was always a “gamble” to go to Vegas and travel to see Céline, no pun intended lol. BUT… we can’t pretend and act like their team isn’t dumb, they are… and they are opportunistic with the fans.. and it’s been this way since Rene stepped down as manager. He was truly the one in management who cared about the fans… I’ve met Rene multiple times and the amount of questions he’s asked me as a “fan” about my experience and what the team could do better was always very important to him. I remember one time in Vegas he asked me what they could do better and my response to him was… maybe add more songs from her catalog and then we got the show opener of “A New Day Has Come” instead of “Nature Boy”… not saying it’s because of me but if he asked me multiple times I’m sure he asked plenty of others… He is beyond missed by not only Celine and her family but especially also the fans, and it becomes more and more obvious with each passing year. On 6/5/2026 at 9:40 PM, LukeD said: Yes, but this is not the point of the discussion. Whether the team makes mistakes or not. The point of the discussion is how far one reads those mistakes and how much importance assigns to them. I can list you several mistakes, but I will not explode over them. For example, to me it is a poor show that Peabo Bryson died and we only got an IG story. Very inconsiderate IMO. I think a thorough post was necessary. End of story. I will not moan over it. Also to add, nobody is denying the downfalls of her team. I’ve said that multiple times in my responses. They leave much to be desired. I could go on about my grievances dating back to 2002, but I won’t. I’ve just accepted that this is what her team is, and whatever I get from Celine after nearly 40 years…I’ll take! That doesn’t mean that I’m in denial though. My issue was with this person bitching and complaining about how things were going, and when I finally asked them what they would do or if they had any ideas to try and get through to her team as fans, I was met with snide remarks and how could I possibly think that the fans could have a movement to get through to her team. Total gaslighting in all of their posts. 5 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Popular Post Els Posted June 6, 2026 at 02:47 AM Popular Post Posted June 6, 2026 at 02:47 AM (edited) I'm not going to try to re-litigate anything here, and I'm not calling anyone out in particular or trying to start anything. This is just what's been sort of brewing in my mind on the topic, so take it for what it's worth. (Also, it's like 4:30am, so hopefully this will make sense 😅) But what I will say is that post-diagnosis/post-documentary, I think all the codes get thrown out. Would I personally like there to be more communication? Selfishly, yes. I am always interested, as are most of us here probably, in hearing from her, seeing what she's up to, knowing what's going on, having more content, etc. But especially since her illness, I think a lot about how she's spent her whole life having to live even the most personal things in the public eye. How she took it in stride -- the "I am an open book narrative". She never said that it was easy or "fun" to do things that way. Some of it is her sincerity and nature. But she's also talked before how some of that was self-defensive (Denise Bombardier interview and essay), how some of that was a way of overcoming her own shyness (all over the early 90s US-breakthrough interviews), etc. If we go back further, her teenage interviews in the 80s magazines mention how that aspect not been easy and has been awkward and sometimes painful for her. Most recently, in the documentary, she talks about "the price to pay" and worrying about disappointing people if she's not good enough or close enough to what people expect, or "Celine Dion" (American accent) enough... And that brings us to now: she's at a point in her career where she has nothing left to prove, nowhere else in her career where she needs a strategy in place to pierce through or rise further. And it coincides with a time when she's been going through something healthwise that is difficult and painful -- we've been literally shown how much. And she's still given us some sporadic updates. Sure, it's not a lot and not always predictable or consistent. Sure, her team isn't great at the social media stuff. But she's made sure we've known the broad strokes of what's going on. And not only that, but also some small appearances (Serge Fiori, Ginette Reno, the Grammys, that City of Hope gala in 2024), a few social media posts that try to be more "in connection" or just a person having fun with her audience (the TikToks), and of course the Olympics. I don't feel entitled to more. Would I like more? Again, selfishly, sure. But I don't think for one minute that she owes us that. She doesn't owe us anything. Look where she was just a couple of years ago. And remember that her condition is unpredictable. And even if I believe her when she says that she's doing great and feeling strong... I also believe that having a chronic illness changes a person's relationship to everything. To their body, to how much they may want to be seen, to life in general. Even before this, she was always a person who was discreet. In the D'eux anniversary documentary, she mentions off-handedly being in London and not calling up JJG because she "didn't want to bother him". Drucker said how since her illness, she sort of retreated a little, even from her friends. There was a moment when Claudette said that it had been a while since she talked to the family. I think that shows a person who was trying to work through her new reality in private. A person going through something. A person who (as she has often said) tries to only talk when she has something to say, tries not to be, as she often says, "prétentieuse"... A person who has, at different points in her career (pre-Incognito break, pre-2000 hiatus) said that she worries that people will get sick of her when she's been present a lot... I'm not validating those worries on her behalf, but they show us the kind of person she is and the sort of paradoxical self-consciousness that she has. I think left to her own devices, she's not the kind of person who is going to seek out social media or the cameras unless she has something that she wants to say and is ready to say it. On the contrary, she is the kind of person who has a song basically lamenting smartphones and social media (Les yeux au ciel). And the other side of things: if she's taken stock of things now that this illness has forced her to, and maybe decided that not everything should be a "price to pay" or done out of fear of disappointing the people or because that's "just the way things are done"? If maybe, just for one tiny sliver of her 45+ year career, she can finally stop playing by all the rigid codes or even allow herself to break them a little (no official interviews despite a new single and show, her first "album cover" since her return with the new single where she's facing away from the camera, etc.)? Even if that's not the "orthodox" way of doing things? Even if it's not "what the people want"? Well, more power to her. I'm glad for her if she just gets to do the parts that feel rewarding to her. I still have the images of that documentary burned in my brain. Alongside the images of her at 14, at 17... sensitive and big hearted and tender. The little girl who sang "Au secours, il me faut beaucoup d'amour...". Alongside that interview with Lola Dubini where she cries as she talks about people being mean to her when she was a kid. And as big of a star as she is, as big as the machine is, and all the industry stuff and capitalism... I personally still can't help but see her humanity. It's what touches me the most about her. Her softness in a hard world, her rejection of cynicism... I wish more people would remember that person that she is behind it all. After that documentary, I thought that the world -- and her fans especially! -- would be a little gentler with her. When she did start sporadically posting on socials again, I was so surprised to see all the millions of comments begging for something -- a comeback, a song, anything --, despite what she had then only recently shown us she was going through. It really rubbed me the wrong way. But I told myself, people are just worried for her; this is their way of hoping things get "back to normal" because that would be a sign that she's doing ok and they can worry a little less. And now, against all odds, she's feeling strong enough to come back. I really wasn't sure it would happen. I don't think she was either. It's amazing! She's doing an incredible, beautiful thing! A hard thing! A thing that she has described as for her and for us! And god... the CONSTANT complaints and critiques and begging for something better or different or "not this way" or whatever break my heart for her and really feel gross to me. Like she's some kind of vending machine that you can put a coin in and get exactly what you want out. That whole apple tree thing... have you guys read The Giving Tree? Because that's pretty much the narrative there... Maybe I'm just naive or too sensitive or whatever... but I really, honestly believed that just this once we'd actually be here for the tree. And if that's not the case and I'm just an idiot, then maybe all the people who are waiting in line for their apples can give it a couple more months until you get yours before you already complain about them. I'm not even going to touch the industry stuff. We don't know anything about her contracts, obligations, internal workings of any of the massive conglomerates, etc. We don't actually know her/her team's interactions with them, who controls what, or how any of that stuff has actually worked in this case. All we know is what she's showing us, and I'm grateful for every little glimpse and just don't want anything to tarnish that. Good night, friends. I hope tomorrow will be a happier day. Edited June 6, 2026 at 02:55 AM by Els 8 3 Quote
symon Posted June 6, 2026 at 06:27 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 06:27 AM I m so happy. Going to see Céline 3 times. Sept 12th, 2025, Oct 14th, 2025 and May 15th, 2025 🥰 only prestige seats 🎉🎉🎉 4 Quote
Johnny79 Posted June 6, 2026 at 06:41 AM Posted June 6, 2026 at 06:41 AM On 6/6/2026 at 8:27 AM, symon said: I m so happy. Going to see Céline 3 times. Sept 12th, 2025, Oct 14th, 2025 and May 15th, 2025 🥰 only prestige seats 🎉🎉🎉 I'll be there on may 15th too! Also with o prestige seats 😃. Did you book through event travel? 1 Quote
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