Celine on "Nurse Heroes Live!" benefit concert

[couldawouldashoulda]

So, from what I'm reading here...Stevie Wonder didn't get a solo? Andrea Bocelli didn't get a solo??????!!!!! This makes much more sense now that Celine didn't either. Didn't David Foster produce this along with Gloria? Or am I wrong? Did Kat McPhee (his wife) and Josh Groban (his wet dream) get solos? David hasn't worked with Celine for decades. He always speaks kindly of her but something must've happened between them for him to not produce a song for her in over 20 years.

[PuraVida]

So, from what I'm reading here...Stevie Wonder didn't get a solo? Andrea Bocelli didn't get a solo??????!!!!! This makes much more sense now that Celine didn't either. Didn't David Foster produce this along with Gloria? Or am I wrong? Did Kat McPhee (his wife) and Josh Groban (his wet dream) get solos? David hasn't worked with Celine for decades. He always speaks kindly of her but something must've happened between them for him to not produce a song for her in over 20 years.

 

Andrea and Josh both got to do full songs. Stevie and Celine only joined for the group number of "Smile". And I may be wrong, but David was just a (musical) guest like everyone else. Katherine only joined to sing for the group number Smile too.

 

And what? David produced her entire 2004 Miracle album. They've worked together many times after that in live events. Let's not invent things, now. Besides, he has said he doesn't really know of a new direction to go in with Celine these days and he wants to work with her if it can be in new directions.

[PuraVida]

It's up to 32k views. The 6k - 7k was the highest live viewer streaming totally, so it didn't totally capture unique viewer #s.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMsHGqBdOck

[Xpresso]

One could excuse this if she offered much more for her fans instead on her social media. But she doesn't care a bit. Not a tiny bit. She was all dressed up, so she could also shoot some messages for us. She choses not to do anything.

How do you know that she didn't record some messages? They might come out in the next few weeks or months, or in two years!

[Xpresso]

It's up to 32k views. The 6k - 7k was the highest live viewer streaming totally, so it didn't totally capture unique viewer #s.

 

32k? Wow, maybe Celine knew about that and decided not to sweat it with rehearsals and all... Maybe she's a good manager after all!

[PuraVida]

32k? Wow, maybe Celine knew about that and decided not to sweat it with rehearsals and all... Maybe she's a good manager after all!

 

I don't think anyone would have expected such low turnout. I saw Gloria promote it on The View, but I dunno if Thanksgiving is a great day for these things. People are usually watching TV or cooking or eating.

 

Also, the title is confusing from the beginning. Nurse Heroes Live? Huh?

Edited November 27, 2020 at 02:24 PM by PuraVida

[couldawouldashoulda]

The special also didn't air on television - it was an internet only thing. If it had aired across all television networks (like many of these things are) I'm sure it would've had more viewers. Many people, and I'm one of them, just don't care about online stuff.

[scielle]

I didn’t tune in, but glad it was Smile. A much better choice for the occasion than Courage.

 

As for the screen time... I guess she just doesn’t feel super comfortable with this online/ streaming format. That was pretty evident as early as 2016, when we got The Winter Song.

[Céline RO]

As for the screen time... I guess she just doesn't feel super comfortable with this online/ streaming format. That was pretty evident as early as 2016, when we got The Winter Song.

 

All she has to do is sing and look at a camera (i.e. exactly what she’s been doing for decades in televised performances).

[manu23]

I totally agree with some of your last comments. The moment I knew it was an online thing only and seeing the artists lineup I was sure it would be average. But even so a bit drastic to sell you Celine collection because of this

 

A bit off topic, but one artist that has surprised me lately is Kylie Minogue. She is doing a great work promoting Disco. Pity it doesn't reflect on the charts (apart from the #1 in UK and Australia) but she is trying. I think Celine (or Sony) knows that even with hard promo, numbers wouldn't change much, so that's why they don't bother. I'm fine with that, cause for me the most important is seeing her live, delivering great vocals. But I can only praise Kylie for her hard work. Also Mariah is entering her season. I'm glad she is so festive. I'd lost faith in her a few years back, but now I enjoy her Christmas seasons. Bad vocals but she is funny

Edited November 27, 2020 at 03:55 PM by manu23

[pat200]

She HAS lost of her mother this year. That's intense. Also pandemic. And she still is dealing with the death of Rene....it can take a LONG time to get over a marriage like that. Plus, she got screwed over by her old musical companion too. Plus, who knows what's going on with her sons.

 

I have criticized her for sure, but that's because I don't know about her mental or emotional health.

 

 

I agree about her mom, but enough with she is still dealing with rene's death, it will be 5 years in 2 months. we all have lost the closest people in our life and we have had to deal with it immediately, in poverty, in bad health, in wars and so on, none of which apply to her. let's stop milking this topic and let's stop always giving excuses. also let's stop painting her as this fragile little creature, she is a very strong person.

Edited November 27, 2020 at 04:46 PM by pat200

[Xpresso]

I agree about her mom, but enough with she is still dealing with rene's death, it will be 5 years in 2 months. we all have lost the closest people in our life and we have had to deal with it immediately, in poverty, in bad health, in wars and so on, none of which apply to her. let's stop milking this topic and let's stop always giving excuses. also let's stop painting her as this fragile little creature, she is a very strong person.

The main difference is that the close people we might have lost didn't manage our professional career and make the most important life decisions. It takes much longer to adjust to such a change. And I think now she just wants to enjoy life. I think she is very aware that no matter how hard she promotes, it might not make such a big difference. Been there done that and I can't really blame her either.

[LVCeline]

They used her name to get people interested in watching, that's it. That wasn't worth the time watching it and not worth her time participating.

[pat200]

The main difference is that the close people we might have lost didn't manage our professional career and make the most important life decisions. It takes much longer to adjust to such a change. And I think now she just wants to enjoy life. I think she is very aware that no matter how hard she promotes, it might not make such a big difference. Been there done that and I can't really blame her either.

 

Please stop trying to make her loss sound worse than other people's losses, people who do not have the support system and all the resources in the world at their disposal to heal. There has to be a point where we need to understand as die hard and sometimes blinded fans the privilege that she lives in and stop making her life sound like a tragedy. She herself i am sure realizes her reality and would not want that.

[comingback]

I totally agree with some of your last comments. The moment I knew it was an online thing only and seeing the artists lineup I was sure it would be average. But even so a bit drastic to sell you Celine collection because of this

 

A bit off topic, but one artist that has surprised me lately is Kylie Minogue. She is doing a great work promoting Disco. Pity it doesn't reflect on the charts (apart from the #1 in UK and Australia) but she is trying. I think Celine (or Sony) knows that even with hard promo, numbers wouldn't change much, so that's why they don't bother. I'm fine with that, cause for me the most important is seeing her live, delivering great vocals. But I can only praise Kylie for her hard work. Also Mariah is entering her season. I'm glad she is so festive. I'd lost faith in her a few years back, but now I enjoy her Christmas seasons. Bad vocals but she is funny

 

Yep, Mariah will promote her music on a Christmas special on Apple TV and Kylie also promotes her music.

And these ladies are the same age as Celine.

And where is Celine, has she lost interest in her English music ? Because she is always creative and involved in her French music.

Plus, lately she is more interest in fashion than music.

Is she fed up with the music business (Rene's death, long Vegas run, court case..) ?

To be continued..

Edited November 27, 2020 at 06:21 PM by comingback

[rfkavanagh]

A bit off topic, but one artist that has surprised me lately is Kylie Minogue. She is doing a great work promoting Disco. Pity it doesn't reflect on the charts (apart from the #1 in UK and Australia) but she is trying. I think Celine (or Sony) knows that even with hard promo, numbers wouldn't change much, so that's why they don't bother. I'm fine with that, cause for me the most important is seeing her live, delivering great vocals. But I can only praise Kylie for her hard work.

 

Kylie's always game for a bit of promo and she's been everywhere for the release of Disco! Three US network TV performances, oodles of Zoom radio interviews, magazine and newspaper interviews, a virtual concert, she's on Dua Lipa's virtual concert today - she's putting in the work, much of it without needing to leave her house. It's paid off well for, too - she'll never again reach the same heights she has in the past, but this album has been her best-performing in 10 years.

 

If Céline put in even 20% of Kylie's effort, we'd probably be very happy.

[guigafs15]

The main difference is that the close people we might have lost didn't manage our professional career and make the most important life decisions. It takes much longer to adjust to such a change. And I think now she just wants to enjoy life. I think she is very aware that no matter how hard she promotes, it might not make such a big difference. Been there done that and I can't really blame her either.

 

I'll never understand this necessity Celine’s fans have to make her a martyr, someone who suffers more than everyone, who works more than anyone, who has the most difficult job in the world and etc.

 

I'm not even get into the discussion of Celine being still in loss pain or not, cause that is too subjective and only Celine and her close ones will know that. But, please, stop ✋

 

Celine is a privileged and wealthy white woman. It's not harder for her than it is for everybody else, it's easier.

[Xpresso]

I'll never understand this necessity Celine's fans have to make her a martyr, someone who suffers more than everyone, who works more than anyone, who has the most difficult job in the world and etc.

 

I'm not even get into the discussion of Celine being still in loss pain or not, cause that is too subjective and only Celine and her close ones will know that. But, please, stop ✋

 

Celine is a privileged and wealthy white woman. It's not harder for her than it is for everybody else, it's easier.

Calm down, I didn't say she is a martyr! LOL

Her husband happened to be a manager so she has to adjust to that reality, and it may take longer.

[joaofilho]

Kylie, Mariah, do not forget that Jennifer Lopez is the same age as Celine, I think that this "problem" in her English career is a problem with the record company, she does not have the profile of being an entrepreneur who charges companies that she has contract, that's why a manager is needed.

If it is not working, change the label, terminate the contract, it is not treated with respect, and it seems that in fear of making a change in your artistic life.

I don't even have any hopes for any change to happen, his career has stalled, unfortunately.

[Ajax]

That's a bit weird but few years ago I guess I would have been pissed also. But now, I'm in peace.

Because, I don't have anyone else to blame than her, meaning now we know that it is her choice, that she is doing it the way she wants to, at least, more than ever. I can still disagree with her choices of course, but at the end of the day, I find this approach more sincere, there is no more ambiguity on whether it's been her choice or how much she's been forced to, somehow interesting.

 

I'm not speaking specificaly about this show, this was very anecdotic in my opinion, but more about her global approach, during this covid time. She clearly chose to isolate a bit herself. And, how could I blame or judge her in this context, at this stage in her pro/personal life? I can also imagine that by force of circumstances, she finally had this free time she was running away from till now. (does this sentence makes sence ? I mean, she was forced to have free time while since René's death it looks like she did whatever to keep busy) That can be something, in her personnal process.

 

Whatever I'm in peace with that. Otherwise, it doesn't mean that whoever is in charge of her social media but also global promotion, sucks. Even with a quit Celine (more or less), Courage could have been celebrated in so many way....

[actofcontrition]

Can you just stop with the « she’s not doing anything because sony and her knows its not gonna help the sales »

 

Yes its true. She made her sales in the 90’s. She doesnt need more thats true. She always say she doesnt have to prove anything. Yeah thats true so dont care about the sales and trying to get general public and GO : play for your real fans!

 

She is already a legend! So now its time to do little acoustic videos of songs she never sang or forgotten songs from the 80’, surprising us with a unreleased song 1-2 times a year you know all of this without the thinking of huge sales but only to make the fans happy.

 

Thats not sooo demanding for her but would do A LOT for us.

Edited November 27, 2020 at 08:08 PM by actofcontrition

[browseceline]

Can you just stop with the « she’s not doing anything because sony and her knows its not gonna help the sales »

 

Yes its true. She made her sales in the 90’s. She doesnt need more thats true. She always say she doesnt have to prove anything. Yeah thats true so dont care about the sales and trying to get general public and GO : play for your real fans!

 

She is already a legend! So now its time to do little acoustic videos of songs she never sang or forgotten songs from the 80’, surprising us with a unreleased song 1-2 times a year you know all of this without the thinking of huge sales but only to make the fans happy.

 

Thats not sooo demanding for her but would do A LOT for us.

Exactly!!!

 

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[jpatdeleon09]

And...

 

 

Again hahaha

[ryba]

She literally doesn’t give a hamsters #ss about her long time die hard fans who love her for her music. Instead, she prefers to pose in ridiculous clothes in front of trees to appeal to the masses on instagram with her fashion. It says it all...

[couldawouldashoulda]

Celine has given a lot to her fans over the years. A LOT Spoiled little baby brats will never have enough. They whine and cry for more more MORE. Nothing is ever good enough.

[ryba]

Celine has given a lot to her fans over the years. A LOT Spoiled little baby brats will never have enough. They whine and cry for more more MORE. Nothing is ever good enough.

well, if what you get right now is enough for you, then good for you. I have higher standards when it comes to an international superstar of her kind.

[Nmj]

Celine has given a lot to her fans over the years. A LOT Spoiled little baby brats will never have enough. They whine and cry for more more MORE. Nothing is ever good enough.

 

It’s not like she gives “a lot” for free. If you love Celine and want to hear her music you have to BUY her albums, if you’d like to see her live you have to BUY her crazy expensive tickets. Let’s not feel sorry for her giving the fans so much over the years and not pretend that the fans haven’t given her, her homes, private jets, her LUXURY life. So it’s a two way road, one where Celine also benefits extremely.

[pat200]

Celine has given a lot to her fans over the years. A LOT Spoiled little baby brats will never have enough. They whine and cry for more more MORE. Nothing is ever good enough.

 

You sound like one of those blind fans who idolize celebrities even if they were to kill someone. Chill. Everything she has given, we have paid a fortune for. She didn't give it for free...

[jepoi]

Some fans are just blinded. Sad.

[jepoi]

Maybe Celine thinks her fans will stick with her no matter what she gives to them. She just doesn't care. Maybe this is who she really is all this time. It's become apparent just now that rene is gone. I'm sorry i'm being negative but this is how i feel. It also doesn't help that she has a contractual issue with her agent of almost 30 years.