New Las Vegas residency show!

[Xpresso]

You're right about the state of Nevada being able to override on masks and testing, but AEG's policy after October 1 is no mask mandate in their venues and no testing unless under the age of 12. While the findings from the Imperial study should be considered, the findings likely do not represent the scenario come November with variables like fake vaccine cards (which are becoming very prevalent in the US), medical/religious exemptions, and new variants. Not to mention, the majority of positive individuals in many regions are double vaxxed, so it's not unlikley that it would spread with no masks or testing in the venues. Like I said, if they're concerned about the virus spreading in their venues, the safer and more effective option is simply require proof of a negative test by all ticketholders prior to the show. That way, we would know for almost certain that the virus isn't circulating in the venue. AEG admitted in their press release that they intend to use this policy to encourage vaccination, which suggests that this is a political decision rather than solely one in the best interest of their customers' wellbeing.

If there are fake vaccine cards, I assume you know there are also fake Covid negative tests... Either way, it's not 100% safe. I would probably wear a mask anyway in the venue to be on the safe side.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

 

Adele taking up residence in Las Vegas? Don’t bet on it

She has crippling stage fright, doesn't need the money, and isn't a has-been. Yet rumour has it that Adele is playing a Vegas residency

 

By

Ed Power

10 August 2021 • 2:08pm

 

 

The opening night of her first (and potentially last) arena tour had come around. The 26-year-old Londoner was visibly crippled with nerves. Amid songs about heartache and early adulthood soul-searching, she revealed she’d spent the day knocking back Imodium in order to bring peace to her jittery bowels. Or, as Adele put it, “I have actually been s_______ myself.”

 

Her concert at Belfast’s SSE Arena was hugely endearing. Wonderful singing helped. Yet it wasn’t slick nor especially glamorous. Sitting in the stalls of this converted ice hockey venue, it was hard to imagine anywhere on the planet further removed from the pre-packaged glitz and turbo-charted fakery of a night out in Las Vegas.

 

But could Adele soon be saying “Hello” from the other side of the Sunset Strip? It has been reported modern pop’s great recluse has agreed a £500,000 per night slot at Sin City’s newly-opened Resorts World hotel. If true Adele would set a new record as the highest earner ever for a Vegas residency (she would be coining five times what Lady Gaga earned on the Strip in 2018).

 

The rumours seem to have originated at Las Vegas blog Vitalvegas.com. The website had previously revealed Celine Dion had signed up to regular shows at Resorts World’s 5,000 capacity theatre (still under construction). In its post breaking the Adele story, the blog noted a blank space on a wall promoting future performers at the venue.

 

Celine Dion was up there, alongside posters of Katy Perry, Carrie Underwood and Luke Bryan. Might the mysterious headliner be… Adele ?

 

 

“Adele has been circling a Las Vegas residency for some time, having been spotted checking out Park MGM at one point,” wrote Vitalvegas. “But we hear Resorts World finally won the prize of working with this award-winning songstress. We understand her residency could start as soon as January 2022.”

 

The international media has taken up these rumours and run with them. Sources have suggested Adele would be allowed commute by private jet to Vegas from either of her two Beverly Hills mansions. And that, though the gigs would of course be “hugely lucrative”, they would also be a “lot of fun”.

 

But would they really? Nobody has made global stardom look more of a grind than Adele. She is a notoriously anxious performer – as demonstrated in Belfast five years ago, when she spent half the running time crooning her heart out and the other half banging on about her bowels. The high-rollers at Resorts World Las Vegas are, one suspects, not quite ready for an evening of quips about Adele quaking in terror on the loo.

 

Belfast was no one-off. In 2011, touring her second album, 21, she didn’t even try to hide her terror of the spotlight. “I get s___ scared,” she told Rolling Stone. “One show in Amsterdam, I was so nervous I escaped out the fire exit. I've thrown up a couple of times. Once in Brussels, I projectile-vomited on someone. I just gotta bear it. But I don't like touring. I have anxiety attacks a lot.”

 

For Adele time was anything but a healer. Her stage fright had seemingly intensified by 2016 and the Imodium jokes. “It’s actually getting worse,” she revealed to American broadcaster NPR ahead of her world tour. “Or, it’s just not getting better, so I feel like it’s getting worse, because it should’ve gotten better by now.”

 

Adele, it is true, knuckled down, and after opening night jitters and Imodium monologues in Belfast, got through some 16 months of dates.

 

Yet even as she reached the finish line there were setbacks. Adele Live was due to conclude with four shows at Wembley in July 2017, with a combined attendance of nearly 400,000. However, she canceled the final two dates citing damaged vocal cords. In the end the slog was too much.

 

In 2002, Celine Dion revived the tradition with her A New Day show, which earned $444.69 million dollars across five years and played to some three million people. Following her on the gold-paved road to Sin City were Elton John, Cher, Rod Stewart and Mariah Carey.

 

And then there was Britney. In December 2013, the …Baby One More Time singer touched down in Las Vegas for her Piece of Me residency at Planet Hollywood. Her price tag was $325,000 per show.

 

Such was the popularity of her gigs that, within the year, she received a raise to $475,000. In total, across her first 12 months at Planet Hollywood she is estimated to have boosted the resort’s earnings $2 million. And she was back in Nevada in 2018 for a new residency, Britney: Dominion, securing a nightly pay cheque of $500,000.

 

Would those sort of figures turn Adele’s head? Life on the road is obviously very different to a cushy residency at Vegas. Yet there is still the torture of gigging night after night. And if there is one super-star who seems spectacularly ill-suited to punching the clock repeatedly it is Adele.

 

Barfing down a stair-well in Brussels is one thing. In Sin City you are expected to be always “on”. At Britney’s Planet Hollywood gigs, super fans would stump up $2,500 for meet-and-greets with the star. Could Adele set to one side her crippling anxiety to pose for selfies night after night?

 

She certainly doesn’t need the cash. Some three million people are thought to have attended her 2016/2017 tour, which grossed £127 million. Factoring in record sales of 24 million, her net worth is estimated at £137 million.Nor would a residency make any sense from the perspective of her longevity as a recording artist. Vegas is typically where performers go when they’ve crumpled up creatively.

 

Britney Spears’s hit-making days were long behind her as she fell into the orbit of Planet Hollywood. The same was true of Celine Dion in 2002. Arguably only Lady Gaga has put roots down in Las Vegas – she earned $100,000 per night for her residence in 2018 and 2019 – and come away with credibility semi-intact.

 

But Gaga had taken a break from new music when she went out into the desert. Adele, by contrast, is working on her fourth LP. It will reportedly delve into the heartache of her 2019 divorce from Simon Konecki. She made reference to the record hosting Saturday Night Live last October.

 

“My album's not finished and I'm too scared to do both,” Adele said. “I’d rather just put on some wigs—and this is all mine, by the way—have a glass of wine, or six, and just see what happens.”

 

With the Adele 4.0 still a work in progress, the recording studio is, for the time being at least, likely to be the focus of her creative energies. And, for a singer with new music to share, Las Vegas is surely the last place she would wish to go.

 

Thanks to Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack, the city will be forever splashed in showbiz mystique. But for an artist who still has lots to say, and many miles to go before they are on the scrap-heap, it surely represents a resounding dead end. The neon glitz of Sin City would risk becoming the place where Adele’s career went dark.

 

I’m so sick of this “has been” conversation, regarding Vegas. Celine was not a has been at the time of her 2003 residency, and in fact it only boosted her status as a superstar. Elton, Cher and Mariah were not has beens; but legends. And they too enjoyed a new boost to their career, thanks to the newfound resurgence and acceptance of Vegas residencies.

 

Yes, Adele is still a high record seller, but she hates touring. That in itself could be detrimental to one’s career. Especially a young artist. I think people would be excited about her doing a residency…but I don’t think it would have the same effect that the others have had.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I had a feeling after LiveNation announced that they will allow artists to determine vaccination/negative test requirements (Maroon 5 has announced that they will only accept full vaccination) that it wouldn't be long before AEG joined in. But WHOA! Didn't expect them to lay down the law! I'm impressed.

 

 

 

Honestly, I think it'll pay off. There's a big group of people who want to feel safe when they're at concerts, shows, etc beyond the performers themselves. And I have no doubt that they took notes from Celine, Lorde, the organizers of Coachella, etc. to see where they stood. I think that this all but guarantees that Celine's Nov. 5th kickoff of her residency will happen. It also means that my trip in January looks a LOT better, because 1) I need to see Celine again and 2) I finally got front row and I will DIE if the shows get postponed or cancelled.

 

I think those who are not vaccinated, not being allowed into these shows will be balanced out by people who ARE vaccinated who refused to go to the shows where unvaccinated people were allowed to be. These vaccinated people will now buy up those tickets being that they’re in an environment they feel is safe.

[CelinesDIVO5]

This is a very bad move IMO. We know that vaccines are not preventing vaccinated people from spreading the virus. To get rid of testing and just require proof of vaccination will do nothing to protect the audience or the performer. There could be hundreds of COVID-positive people in the venue, albeit vaccinated (without masks because AEG is only encouraging, not mandating them) and we would never know because of this new policy. On the other hand, their current policy of having concertgoers show a negative test would ensure that (almost) everyone in the theater is negative, vaccinated or not. If AEG is so concerned about the delta variant harming their customers, they should put more energy into making sure that it stays out of their venues, instead of trying to accomplish a larger political goal of increasing vaccinations. Not to mention the risk of losing valuable customers and declining ticket sales... Personally, I feel less safe with the policy effective October 1 than the current one.

 

There may be an insurance issue if they allow unvaccinated people into the venue. Like you said, vaccinated people could carry and spread. If someone in the venue who is unvaccinated catches the virus from someone and gets sick and/or dies; AEG could be held liable. That’s not a risk they are willing to take, I am sure.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I’m almost certain that proof of a medical exemption is allowed in almost every situation where vaccination is mandatory, as there is a significant amount of people with immunocompromisation who can’t receive most vaccinations, this is no different

 

Why would someone who is immunocompromised want to be in a venue with 5,000 screaming people anyway? Their risk of having severe affects from this virus are already great. So, it baffles me that they would want to be around that many people. Vaccinated or not…

[brendanm999]

If there are fake vaccine cards, I assume you know there are also fake Covid negative tests... Either way, it's not 100% safe. I would probably wear a mask anyway in the venue to be on the safe side.

That’s true, but I specifically mentioned fake vaccine cards because they weren’t factored into the Imperial study re: transmission among fully vaxxed. With that being said, I think it’s more likely that many unvaccinated ticket holders who may not be able to get their “limited refund” will present a fake vaccine card, than there will be infected people who know they’re sick faking a negative test to gain entry. I agree with you on mask wearing on a personal level, especially since they may not end up requiring tests.

[CelinesDIVO5]

That’s true, but I specifically mentioned fake vaccine cards because they weren’t factored into the Imperial study re: transmission among fully vaxxed. With that being said, I think it’s more likely that many unvaccinated ticket holders who may not be able to get their “limited refund” will present a fake vaccine card, than there will be infected people who know they’re sick faking a negative test to gain entry. I agree with you on mask wearing on a personal level, especially since they may not end up requiring tests.

 

Which is why there should be a federally mandated app with QR codes to be scanned for proof of vaccination. New York has the Excelsior App. New Jersey I know has their own app. There should be a federal based app for the same. Long shot though with the vaccine not yet being FDA approved.

[brendanm999]

 

 

I think those who are not vaccinated, not being allowed into these shows will be balanced out by people who ARE vaccinated who refused to go to the shows where unvaccinated people were allowed to be. These vaccinated people will now buy up those tickets being that they’re in an environment they feel is safe.

I’m curious whether this will be the case. The “limited refund” policy for unvaccinated ticket holders is a bit confusing though, because I’d imagine the unvaccinated ticket holders would end up holding onto the tickets if they’re not fully refunded. AEG said we will find out more closer to October. Edited August 12, 2021 at 10:15 PM by brendanm999

[CelinesDIVO5]

I’m curious whether this will be the case. The “limited refund” policy for unvaccinated ticket holders is a bit confusing though, because I’d imagine the unvaccinated ticket holders would end up holding onto the tickets if they’re not fully refunded. AEG said we will find out more closer to October.

 

I’m sure AEG will nullify the electronic codes on the tickets with partial refunds and they won’t allow people to gain access.

[brendanm999]

 

 

I’m sure AEG will nullify the electronic codes on the tickets with partial refunds and they won’t allow people to gain access.

My question is whether AEG would authorize AXS to put the tickets back up for sale for vaccinated people to purchase if they don’t fully refund the original ticket holder. Otherwise, the seats would just be empty unless the ticket holders sold them on a resale site. I can’t imagine AEG authorizing the resale of tickets that weren’t fully refunded. Edited August 12, 2021 at 10:27 PM by brendanm999

[PuraVida]

I'm so sick of this "has been" conversation, regarding Vegas. Celine was not a has been at the time of her 2003 residency, and in fact it only boosted her status as a superstar. Elton, Cher and Mariah were not has beens; but legends. And they too enjoyed a new boost to their career, thanks to the newfound resurgence and acceptance of Vegas residencies.

 

Yes, Adele is still a high record seller, but she hates touring. That in itself could be detrimental to one's career. Especially a young artist. I think people would be excited about her doing a residency…but I don't think it would have the same effect that the others have had.

 

I tried to find the authors Twitter and was gonna make a strongly worded tweet lol.

[PuraVida]

I am sure there are Vegas betting odds on to whether these shows will go forward on their initial date

[Nmj]

It would be a bigger gamble if they don't do it. People will now feel safer and might decide to buy tickets...

 

That’s why the key word is gamble….this could be the move that brings the “jackpot” or “bankruptcy”. I understand both aspects of each side, some people won’t go just because of this, others will go because of it…. Time will tell if this a good decision from a business side, my gut says no. However, many people especially here in the US feel that this becomes a slippery slope when the mandates are now beginning to pour in. Their thinking and line of attack is, “So the government can’t force us to get a vaccine, but they can take away everything they like to do and enjoy if we don’t get the vaccine?”

 

I’m personally okay with it, however things just all need to be uniform or not at all….. Resorts World don’t care if you are vaccinated or not to lose thousands of dollars in their casino but AEG Las Vegas in RW property won’t let you into a show if your aren’t vaccinated? 5,000 people in a theater for 2 hours pales in comparison to the thousands of people in and out of the property 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year just to shop/ gamble/dine etc….just saying.

Edited August 12, 2021 at 10:49 PM by Nmj

[Xpresso]

That’s why the key word is gamble….this could be the move that brings the “jackpot” or “bankruptcy”. I understand both aspects of each side, some people won’t go just because of this, others will go because of it…. Time will tell if this a good decision from a business side, my gut says no. However, many people especially here in the US feel that this becomes a slippery slope when the mandates are now beginning to pour in. Their thinking and line of attack is, “So the government can’t force us to get a vaccine, but they can take away everything they like to do and enjoy if we don’t get the vaccine?”

 

I’m personally okay with it, however things just all need to be uniform or not at all….. Resorts World don’t care if you are vaccinated or not to lose thousands of dollars in their casino but AEG Las Vegas in RW property won’t let you into a show if your aren’t vaccinated? 5,000 people in a theater for 2 hours pales in comparison to the thousands of people in and out of the property 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Just saying.

Well since there are more vaccinated people than unvaccinated, it's probably safe to say they made the right decision. We'll see indeed. But I think it would have been worse for business without this new measure in place.

[CelinesDIVO5]

My question is whether AEG would authorize AXS to put the tickets back up for sale for vaccinated people to purchase if they don’t fully refund the original ticket holder. Otherwise, the seats would just be empty unless the ticket holders sold them on a resale site. I can’t imagine AEG authorizing the resale of tickets that weren’t fully refunded.

 

They’re putting a stipulation on the refund. They can sell those tickets if they want. It’s the same premise as a restaurant charging people a certain amount for cancelling a reservation. They can still give that table to someone else to come in and spend money.

[Nmj]

 

 

They’re putting a stipulation on the refund. They can sell those tickets if they want. It’s the same premise as a restaurant charging people a certain amount for cancelling a reservation. They can still give that table to someone else to come in and spend money.

 

That’s crap. These tickets went on sale at a time this wasn’t a policy, they want to make it mandatory to get into the show, fine…. However if someone decides they won’t want the vaccine they should receive the full refund, tickets selling going forward is a different story.

Edited August 12, 2021 at 11:10 PM by Nmj

[AdrienneM]

 

 

Why would someone who is immunocompromised want to be in a venue with 5,000 screaming people anyway? Their risk of having severe affects from this virus are already great. So, it baffles me that they would want to be around that many people. Vaccinated or not…

 

I meant in a generalised sense for all situations where vaccination is required; medical exemption in those situations is permitted. However, I for one am not going to question the decisions of someone who is in that position... if they want to attend a concert, more power to them, if they don’t? Same goes.

[Nmj]

 

 

They’re putting a stipulation on the refund. They can sell those tickets if they want. It’s the same premise as a restaurant charging people a certain amount for cancelling a reservation. They can still give that table to someone else to come in and spend money.

 

Have you been to a Celine Vegas show, out of 5000 people probably 200 scream and cheer the rest are sitting with their walkers nestled to their side, sometimes they may or may not fall asleep!

[luisnicole]

well. like I said a few months ago, my concern is cuz many people like me are foreign and dont have access to the same vaccine as american people, hope that wont be a problem, I had the lucky to be vaccinated with astrazenica.

I would love to see Celine again, but gonna wait to buy a ticket, things are getting very dangerous again sadly, so who knows whats gonna happen with the show, flights, hotel.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

That’s crap. These tickets went on sale at a time this wasn’t a policy, they want to make it mandatory to get into the show, fine…. However if someone decides they won’t want the vaccine they should receive the full refund, tickets selling going forward is a different story.

 

Even with insurance on Ticketmaster pre-Covid, you didn’t get a full refund.

Edited August 13, 2021 at 01:17 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Have you been to a Celine Vegas show, out of 5000 people probably 200 scream and cheer the rest are sitting with their walkers nestled to their side, sometimes they may or may not fall asleep!

 

Idk what cities you’ve been seeing her in, but when I went to AND, it was wild. NYC TCWT, NYC and Miami CWT saw more younger people than not. And they were wild.

[brendanm999]

 

 

Even with insurance on Ticketmaster pre-Covid, you didn’t get a full refund.

That’s completely different. This is not the customer’s fault. Ticket insurance applied to ticket holders who had an unexpected circumstance and chose not to attend the show. They’d pay an extra fee which would entitle them to a refund. Unvaccinated ticket holders were allowed to attend the concert when they purchased the ticket; now they’re being told they can’t after the fact. This isn’t the customer’s decision, so it’s on AEG. The least they can do is buy them back from these customers, issue them a full refund and resell them through AXS to the vaccinated people who all of a sudden feel comfortable going. Edited August 13, 2021 at 02:04 AM by brendanm999

[CelinesDIVO5]

That’s completely different. This is not the customer’s fault. Ticket insurance applied to ticket holders who had an unexpected circumstance and chose not to attend the show. They’d pay an extra fee which would entitle them to a refund. Unvaccinated ticket holders were allowed to attend the concert when they purchased the ticket; now they’re being told they can’t after the fact. This isn’t the customer’s decision, so it’s on AEG. The least they can do is buy them back from these customers, issue them a full refund and resell them through AXS to the vaccinated people who all of a sudden feel comfortable going.

 

Unfortunately, that is not how corporate America works. They’re always going to get something from you. They’re looking at it as, you have a choice to get the vaccine and attend, or not. Their bottom line is more important to them, than you enjoying yourself.

[brendanm999]

 

 

Unfortunately, that is not how corporate America works. They’re always going to get something from you. They’re looking at it as, you have a choice to get the vaccine and attend, or not. Their bottom line is more important to them, than you enjoying yourself.

What I’m saying is that it’s wrong. They should’ve made that clear when people purchased tickets. If a concert is cancelled, ticket holders are refunded. Several ticket holders are being told they cannot attend after they paid. Essentially the event is cancelled for those ticket holders because they literally won’t be allowed in, so they should be fully refunded.

[Nmj]

 

 

Idk what cities you’ve been seeing her in, but when I went to AND, it was wild. NYC TCWT, NYC and Miami CWT saw more younger people than not. And they were wild.

 

I’m not talking about the tour crowd….. In 2019 the courage show at quicken loans, it was super young and happening but I’m talking more so the Vegas crowd. Every time I’ve attended and I look around and see older people mostly sitting down and to themselves. I’ve seen her in Vegas 6 times.

Edited August 13, 2021 at 02:44 AM by Nmj

[GoldenLeaf]

That sucks for ticket holders that can't get vaccinated for personal, health and religious reasons.

 

The least they could do is fully refunding those people or asking them to provide a negative test so they could still attend the shows.

Edited August 13, 2021 at 03:47 AM by GoldenLeaf

[CelinesDIVO5]

What I’m saying is that it’s wrong. They should’ve made that clear when people purchased tickets. If a concert is cancelled, ticket holders are refunded. Several ticket holders are being told they cannot attend after they paid. Essentially the event is cancelled for those ticket holders because they literally won’t be allowed in, so they should be fully refunded.

 

It has been a conversation since even before the vaccine came out, about how public events would be held in the Covid era. And I hate to say it, but people made the choice to purchase these tickets with the risk that something like this would happen. We all knew the world was not going to be the same post-Covid…let alone still in the throws of it. There was always a huge chance of this being the case.

 

That being said…I think Courage World Tour ticket holders should get a full refund if the venues are requiring vaccines, and they’ve decided not to get it. Those tickets were purchased long before Covid was even a thought in people’s minds! As far as any shows/events going further, I agree with what is being done.

[jpatdeleon09]

For sure all who bought the tickets were already vaccinated.. it should be

[celinesounds]

some people here should work at CNN to spread the terror

 

you can stay healthy if you have a healthy life, eating vegetables, fruits doing exercise, and breath natural air

 

besides there is life behind covid, there are people dying from other diseases

 

i know a lot of people dying from this freaking vaccine

Edited August 13, 2021 at 01:38 PM by celinesounds

[george_matei]

some people here should work at CNN to spread the terror

 

you can stay healthy if you have a healthy life, eating vegetables, fruits doing exercise, and breath natural air

 

besides there is life behind covid, there are people dying from other diseases

 

i know a lot of people dying from this freaking vaccine

You're right!