DionFanAlways Posted July 9, 2020 at 08:41 PM Posted July 9, 2020 at 08:41 PM Sorry guys but for me, I love her being in Vegas. 4 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
smw Posted July 9, 2020 at 08:43 PM Posted July 9, 2020 at 08:43 PM And everytime she do residency show. There’s someone in her family dies. 1st residency show (A New Day) 2003 - Her dad died 2nd residency show (Céline) 2016 - Rene and Brother of Céline died I think it’s cursed. Her residencies last for so many years, it makes sense people die along the way. I think she’s the untouchable Queen of Vegas and her massively successful residencies were, and always will be, groundbreaking. Definitely not cursed, in my opinion. 5 Quote
nuts2you Posted July 9, 2020 at 09:11 PM Posted July 9, 2020 at 09:11 PM In Vegas? None. Her contract is finished.\ I Meant to say for the remained of the tour , Quote
Céline RO Posted July 9, 2020 at 09:21 PM Posted July 9, 2020 at 09:21 PM \ I Meant to say for the remained of the tour , I think it’s almost 70 remaining of the ones already announced. However, for all we know, they could’ve already scheduled many more shows that they haven’t yet announced. Quote The best is yet to come...
ehild Posted July 10, 2020 at 01:03 PM Posted July 10, 2020 at 01:03 PM I have a love/hate relationship with Vegas lol. I think initially, and why I'll always try to get the opening shows if I'm able, she's excited to start something new. After a while some nights can definitely feel routine, as any of us might on any given day of our jobs. While it can be expensive to travel plus show tickets, etc she's performing. And you know where to find her. I do think not traveling while performing does help. When I think about how exhausting it can be to fly all over the place, let alone put on shows like she does, realistically, she could easily tire herself out that way. Compared to performing and going home to your own bed. Plus it's stability for the twins. And we all know how important that is to her. 1 Quote ~Liz"Please don't make your career your life. Let it be your passion, let it bring you pleasure, but don't let it become your identity. You are so much more valuable than that." -Celine
idroveallnight Posted July 12, 2020 at 06:00 PM Posted July 12, 2020 at 06:00 PM I appreciate reading all the pros/cons about Vegas but at the end of the day Celine will choose the option that makes her the most money (because that's what Rene would do -- and that's what most artists would do). I get why people are saying she needs to maintain her artistic integrity and stuff...but this is a business, people -- and our queen has very extravagant and expensive taste! The music industry is so saturated now and is no longer a money maker for her as it was in the past when she could drop an album and sell tens of millions of copies...she's not even getting the equivalent of that in streams today. So she has to cater to her loyal audience that has demonstrated again and again that they will travel anywhere to see her. Why would the touring company waste millions of dollars in labor, travel, and delivery costs to move stage equipment when we have already shown them for the last 17 years that we will come to them? Not only this but there is just something about the general Vegas crowd (nonfans) that Celine also appeals to. Whether it's because they're older, have more money, are there with their partners, are from all over the world, etc...all the factors align with Celine's adult contemporary brand. I'm not sure she could do a residency anywhere else with the same level of success. Maybe she could give it a try in Montreal or Paris and see, or enter a contract with a resort that has locations in multiple countries she could rotate through, but I doubt it. I am sure wherever she settles she will make negotiations around fewer shows, more money, and to be able to tour outside of the US. Whatever she chooses, she's not going to stop touring. I think she realizes she's worked too long and too hard in her life to easily give up a level of recognition and fame that can no longer be achieved today no matter how talented you are. The market is just full of way too many players. As far as COVID, as we are seeing, business is not going to stop even for a pandemic. We will see crowds of people wearing masks, fewer musicians on stage with her, and forget about any meet and greets or hotel fashion shows. 3 Quote
Céline RO Posted July 12, 2020 at 06:53 PM Posted July 12, 2020 at 06:53 PM I appreciate reading all the pros/cons about Vegas but at the end of the day Celine will choose the option that makes her the most money (because that's what Rene would do -- and that's what most artists would do). I get why people are saying she needs to maintain her artistic integrity and stuff...but this is a business, people -- and our queen has very extravagant and expensive taste! The music industry is so saturated now and is no longer a money maker for her as it was in the past when she could drop an album and sell tens of millions of copies...she's not even getting the equivalent of that in streams today. So she has to cater to her loyal audience that has demonstrated again and again that they will travel anywhere to see her. Why would the touring company waste millions of dollars in labor, travel, and delivery costs to move stage equipment when we have already shown them for the last 17 years that we will come to them? Not only this but there is just something about the general Vegas crowd (nonfans) that Celine also appeals to. Whether it's because they're older, have more money, are there with their partners, are from all over the world, etc...all the factors align with Celine's adult contemporary brand. I'm not sure she could do a residency anywhere else with the same level of success. Maybe she could give it a try in Montreal or Paris and see, or enter a contract with a resort that has locations in multiple countries she could rotate through, but I doubt it. I am sure wherever she settles she will make negotiations around fewer shows, more money, and to be able to tour outside of the US. Whatever she chooses, she's not going to stop touring. I think she realizes she's worked too long and too hard in her life to easily give up a level of recognition and fame that can no longer be achieved today no matter how talented you are. The market is just full of way too many players. As far as COVID, as we are seeing, business is not going to stop even for a pandemic. We will see crowds of people wearing masks, fewer musicians on stage with her, and forget about any meet and greets or hotel fashion shows. I’d love to see a French residency in Paris. Céline has declared her love for that city so many times that it would only seem natural if she chose to move there for a while. France also seems to be the country that loves Céline the most at the moment, she could have colossal success there. However, although touring is much more expensive for the companies involved, it allows for very high gross in very little time. For example, the TCWT and the ‘Céline’ residency grossed roughly the same amount except the latter was spread over a time period 8 times longer than the former and 3 times the number of shows. It’s tricky to say which is more profitable. As for the hotel fashion shows, I don’t think they were ever intended to be a thing. I’m sure Céline would still parade in her haute couture outfits even without the usual audience. She does it for herself, because she loves it. 1 Quote The best is yet to come...
idroveallnight Posted July 14, 2020 at 12:02 AM Posted July 14, 2020 at 12:02 AM I’d love to see a French residency in Paris. Céline has declared her love for that city so many times that it would only seem natural if she chose to move there for a while. France also seems to be the country that loves Céline the most at the moment, she could have colossal success there. However, although touring is much more expensive for the companies involved, it allows for very high gross in very little time. For example, the TCWT and the ‘Céline’ residency grossed roughly the same amount except the latter was spread over a time period 8 times longer than the former and 3 times the number of shows. It’s tricky to say which is more profitable. As for the hotel fashion shows, I don’t think they were ever intended to be a thing. I’m sure Céline would still parade in her haute couture outfits even without the usual audience. She does it for herself, because she loves it. Well don't forget the tour venues hold tens of thousands of more people than Vegas and she visited 93 cities so she was definitely stretched to hit that financial target. I am sure they will create a larger venue wherever she ends up next in Vegas to rake in more dough but I don't see her settling for anything less than $1M per show especially since they will be relying on her international power to bring people back after the pandemic. Either way, they will be investing a lot more for her show upfront but she will have a lot more say today over the timeline. AEG knows her her worth (they're certain there will never be another artist in Vegas like Celine) and it seems like they are considering many different possibilities in addition to the Courage tour according to this Billboard article from February (very interesting to read that AEG/Concerts West basically rented the Colosseum that entire time and Caesars had very little to do with the show itself: https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8496190/concerts-west-las-vegas-aeg-colosseum One note about the hotel fashion shows: I do think they were for fun at the beginning but they have become very deliberate and calculated PR move now since that's where she's been getting the bulk of her press from. People are really interested to see what she's wearing. 3 Quote
JoshRafa21 Posted July 16, 2020 at 06:47 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 06:47 PM https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/business/9419475/aeg-partners-resorts-world-las-vegas-theater-details 2 Quote
idroveallnight Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:18 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:18 PM https://www.billboar...theater-details Well there you have it -- and this is the same Resorts World she was already rumored to be striking a deal with. The rendering of this theater is basically similar to the Colosseum. Another theater being created specifically for Celine. That's the power of this woman. 1 Quote
CSCfan Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:27 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:27 PM Although it would be "perfect". I doubt Céline will be its first headliner, let alone that it will be created for her. She'll still be on the 'Courage' tour well into 2021 and possibly even 2022. Depending if it will goes on as planned and not postponed again (more likely) because of the COIVD situation. Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
Céline RO Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:39 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:39 PM https://www.billboar...theater-details That sounds promising! However, the interior of the theatre looks a bit too 70s for me. I hope it doesn’t end up like that. Quote The best is yet to come...
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:55 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 07:55 PM Wow! Designed again by Sceno Plus! The one that designed Céline’s old colosseum at caesar’s palace. I’m excited to know if the stage is larger than the one in A New Day.. “The stage will be one of the largest and tallest on the Strip — 64-feet deep by 196-feet wide and 13,550 square feet. The proscenium opening is also one of the largest in Vegas at 123-feet wide by 50-feet tall and it can be modified by a motorized system.” Quote
nuts2you Posted July 16, 2020 at 08:39 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 08:39 PM well if she does go there , I have a feeling that she will get TOP DOLLAR ,,$$$$$, Oh I can so see her going to this place for sure Quote
Céline RO Posted July 16, 2020 at 09:41 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 09:41 PM Wow! Designed again by Sceno Plus! The one that designed Céline's old colosseum at caesar's palace. I'm excited to know if the stage is larger than the one in A New Day.. "The stage will be one of the largest and tallest on the Strip — 64-feet deep by 196-feet wide and 13,550 square feet. The proscenium opening is also one of the largest in Vegas at 123-feet wide by 50-feet tall and it can be modified by a motorized system." A stage like that deserves a show like A New Day... 1 Quote The best is yet to come...
idroveallnight Posted July 16, 2020 at 09:47 PM Posted July 16, 2020 at 09:47 PM Although it would be "perfect". I doubt Céline will be its first headliner, let alone that it will be created for her. She'll still be on the 'Courage' tour well into 2021 and possibly even 2022. Depending if it will goes on as planned and not postponed again (more likely) because of the COIVD situation. This was planned way before the Courage tour and the changes in schedule due to the pandemic. I'm sure it was planned even before she finished her last run of shows at Caesars and was the reason she separated from them. But as we can see from that Billboard article I referenced earlier, there was really no relationship with Caesars except they owned the property and rented it to AEG. It will be the same for Resorts World. I will go out on a limb to say this whole idea of building a new resort/casino moved forward with the potential of bringing her on board to be the main headliner. How else will they get foot traffic that far up the strip? She may not christen the theater but she will for sure be it's biggest money maker. Of course it's all still speculation at this point but we know when the streets talk there's some truth behind it. 2 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted July 17, 2020 at 01:32 AM Posted July 17, 2020 at 01:32 AM This was planned way before the Courage tour and the changes in schedule due to the pandemic. I'm sure it was planned even before she finished her last run of shows at Caesars and was the reason she separated from them. But as we can see from that Billboard article I referenced earlier, there was really no relationship with Caesars except they owned the property and rented it to AEG. It will be the same for Resorts World. I will go out on a limb to say this whole idea of building a new resort/casino moved forward with the potential of bringing her on board to be the main headliner. How else will they get foot traffic that far up the strip? She may not christen the theater but she will for sure be it's biggest money maker. Of course it's all still speculation at this point but we know when the streets talk there's some truth behind it.I agree.Yeah, I hate where this casino is located. You might as well be on the moon as far as location. Buuuuut if they have a poker room then..... 4 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
SuperLove4Celine Posted July 17, 2020 at 03:48 AM Posted July 17, 2020 at 03:48 AM I agree.Yeah, I hate where this casino is located. You might as well be on the moon as far as location. Buuuuut if they have a poker room then..... It’s too bad Wynn and/or Venetian don’t have monorail stations. If they did, that end of The Strip wouldn’t be so bad. 2 Quote
Kyle_Jared Posted July 17, 2020 at 12:16 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 12:16 PM Wow. Reading this makes me excited to see a new show. Sounds like they are pulling out all the stops on this one. Celine would have quite the show! Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 17, 2020 at 12:37 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 12:37 PM Too early to tell when she’ll end up back in Vegas but this article certainly makes it seem, from the way they word certain things, that Celine will be on that stage at some point. Vegas will probably be back up and running long before Celine can finish her world tour but I’d put my money on this being the stage where she’ll perform. I like the design from the few pics I’ve seen so far but will hold judgement til I see the finished result. I wonder how much it not being on the strip will effect things. I’m probably different - Lord knows I always seem to think differently than most people - but when my husband and I last saw Celine, we stayed off the main strip because it was quieter. It only took 5 minutes in a cab (there was no Uber at that point) to get to the strip. If Celine were at this venue, a 5 or even 10 minute car ride probably wouldn’t effect whether or not people go to see her. Quote
CSCfan Posted July 17, 2020 at 03:29 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 03:29 PM and was the reason she separated from them. The reason she seperated with them is because Caesars ended their partnership with AEG for the Colosseum (which was def not something AEG foresaw and was more or less abruptly). And Céline opted to stay with AEG, hence Céline also split with Caesars. I'm sure there have been TALKS, but this time, I really think Céline is taking one step at a time (René and later Aldo were the long-term planners, I don't know if Dave works like that too). I really hope Céline will take a small break after the tour and then do that 'acoustic'/unplugged/anti-tour tour she's been wanting to do for like forever now. It can be done in residency style in a few cities around the world. Vegas can wait. 4 Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2020 at 04:56 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 04:56 PM Skip the Vegas Residency for now. Residency shows can be tiring especially the repetition night after night. It's better to travel the world more and I think she's enjoying it than staying at the same place night after night. 2 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 17, 2020 at 05:53 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 05:53 PM Skip the Vegas Residency for now. Residency shows can be tiring especially the repetition night after night. It's better to travel the world more and I think she's enjoying it than staying at the same place night after night. But I thought it was Celine herself who has said multiple times how nice it is to sleep in the same bed night after night, that touring becomes so tiring. 2 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:05 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:05 PM (edited) But I thought it was Celine herself who has said multiple times how nice it is to sleep in the same bed night after night, that touring becomes so tiring. I think it’s the other way around. Playing night after night in the same location for 5-8 years is very tiring than touring around the world seeing other stuffs and learning other cultures and seeing the great views in every country she goes to. I think it’s more relaxing. At least she has the time off to do some “damage” lol Life is short go out and see the world Edited July 17, 2020 at 07:08 PM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:07 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:07 PM I think it’s the other way around. Playing night after night in the same location for 5-8 years is very tiring than touring around the world seeing other stuffs and learning other cultures and seeing the great views in every country she goes to. But Celine has stated the exact opposite of that so many times throughout her career. She must approach traveling different than you do. Also, have you ever been on a tour? From personal experience, it’s exhausting traveling from place to place and moving from hotel to hotel all the while giving 100% of yourself to performing. 3 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:14 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:14 PM (edited) But Celine has stated the exact opposite of that so many times throughout her career. She must approach traveling different than you do. Also, have you ever been on a tour? From personal experience, it’s exhausting traveling from place to place and moving from hotel to hotel all the while giving 100% of yourself to performing. I have noticed that she became more excited to perform when she started touring and I understand because she goes to different places (you know what i mean) than staying night after night in a colosseum. I think there’s no excitement anymore comparing it to performing to different places in the world. I remember her Taking Chances Tour if she doesn’t have a show. She goes to beach and have fun. It’s like a vacation for her too. In Las Vegas, she goes to colosseum then after that go back home (then repeat) and she’s been in las vegas for sooooooooooooooooooooo long. Enough for now Edited July 17, 2020 at 07:17 PM by jpatdeleon09 1 Quote
CSCfan Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:20 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 07:20 PM I have noticed that she became more excited to perform when she started touring and I understand because she goes to different places (you know what i mean) than staying night after night in a colosseum. I think there's no excitement anymore comparing it to performing to different places in the world. I remember her Taking Chances Tour if she doesn't have a show. She goes to beach and have fun. It's like a vacation for her too. In Las Vegas, she goes to colosseum then after that go back home (then repeat) and she's been in las vegas for sooooooooooooooooooooo long. Enough for now Yes, but that is your opinion, not Céline's... Céline likes to be based in Vegas and having a "normal life". And yes, she also likes to tour and seems more excited when she is, BUT in the end, you have to listen to your body and find the right balance (just like with everything). She isn't getting younger and she has a family. Us fans are lucky she's doing both. 6 Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:07 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:07 PM (edited) Yes, but that is your opinion, not Céline's... Céline likes to be based in Vegas and having a "normal life". And yes, she also likes to tour and seems more excited when she is, BUT in the end, you have to listen to your body and find the right balance (just like with everything). She isn't getting younger and she has a family. Us fans are lucky she's doing both. Yup! That’s my opinion. But she already did 2 residency shows. After tour, she can take a rest. And do another album then tour. It’s not like residency show where she performs night after night for 9 years straight. In tour, you will perform for at least 1-2 years then rest. Plenty of rest. More time with family. Then, plan to record a new album. Then tour. Repeat or she can have time to act for a movie. Edited July 17, 2020 at 08:08 PM by jpatdeleon09 1 Quote
Del Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:13 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:13 PM well if she does go there , I have a feeling that she will get TOP DOLLAR ,,$$$$$, Oh I can so see her going to this place for sureShe will get top dollar and fans will pay top dollar. Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk 1 Quote Instagram: @delphis78
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:33 PM Posted July 17, 2020 at 08:33 PM Skip the residency show Time to achieve her “other” dream. Acting. 1 Quote
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