couldawouldashoulda Posted January 3, 2021 at 05:09 PM Posted January 3, 2021 at 05:09 PM I don't know how this business works and if she is allowed to cancel.But I think now Vegas is apparently around the corner the Courage WORLD Tour will be slighty altered to fit the schedule. Maybe just Europe and America but no Asia or Australia this time. I completely agree. I don't think any further stops of the Courage World Tour will be announced. Once touring can start again, they'll simply do the dates scheduled for which people have already purchased tickets and then be done. The album will be so old by the time it starts back up, I think they'll want to finish it and move on. Although it's really just a Greatest Hits Tour so it won't really matter, I guess. Quote
québecflower Posted January 3, 2021 at 05:29 PM Posted January 3, 2021 at 05:29 PM yea but this pandemic has NOTHING to do with celines vegas residency ending (her last one ended in june 2019, this pandemic started in march 2020, on my birthday march 11 to be precise lol, trust me that will be something i will NEVER FORGET lol!!) so i very much doubt that the city of las vegas is holding CELINE responsible for this worldwide pandemic (especially as it is affecting the WHOLE WORLD & not just las vegas!!) what vegas is going through is what every city, town, state, country, etc is currently going through & have been since march!! i just hope & pray the vaccine will work great & get rid of covid-19 forever!! thanks for bringing joy to my life. 2 Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
CSCfan Posted January 4, 2021 at 12:58 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 12:58 PM I doubt a next Vegas residency will follow shortly after the 'Courage tour', especially if they want to properly prepare a brand new show. We don't need no 'Courage in Vegas' show. IMO after the Corona pandemic; they'd either resume the 'Courage World Tour' INCLUDING dates in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and hopefully South-America or cancel the whole tour all together. In case the CWT being cancelled: an unplugged tour would be a perfect replacement (either a real tour or a smaller residencies around the globe): a lot less crew needed and logistically a lot less of a hassle. And of course it's something both Céline and us fans have been longing for a long time. She could do Vegas again after that. Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
Xpresso Posted January 4, 2021 at 01:12 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 01:12 PM If they cancel the CWT due to Covid, I can't imagine she would go on the road even for an unplugged tour. I doubt people would understand that logic. The next Vegas show will probably be called Text for you. I wonder if she will appear in Vegas scenes for that movie and tie the whole thing to the possible new residency. 1 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 4, 2021 at 01:12 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 01:12 PM (edited) I doubt a next Vegas residency will follow shortly after the 'Courage tour', especially if they want to properly prepare a brand new show. We don't need no 'Courage in Vegas' show. IMO after the Corona pandemic; they'd either resume the 'Courage World Tour' INCLUDING dates in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and hopefully South-America or cancel the whole tour all together. In case the CWT being cancelled: an unplugged tour would be a perfect replacement (either a real tour or a smaller residencies around the globe): a lot less crew needed and logistically a lot less of a hassle. And of course it's something both Céline and us fans have been longing for a long time. She could do Vegas again after that. But you can't simply cancel a major world tour like that. Ticketmaster and AEG would have to refund all that ticket money. They won't do that. And since people bought tickets to the Courage World Tour, it still has to be the Courage World Tour - she can't just change it to an unplugged concert in smaller venues. That's not how business works. Edited January 4, 2021 at 01:13 PM by couldawouldashoulda Quote
CSCfan Posted January 4, 2021 at 04:04 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 04:04 PM (edited) But you can't simply cancel a major world tour like that. Ticketmaster and AEG would have to refund all that ticket money. They won't do that. And since people bought tickets to the Courage World Tour, it still has to be the Courage World Tour - she can't just change it to an unplugged concert in smaller venues. That's not how business works. Of course they would have to refund tickets. And I never said to change the current tour to a different tour. It wouldn't be possible, just like going ahead with the tour with the current corona measures wouldn't be possible.I said it would be better to cancel the tour if it still can't be held in its original form if the COVID pandemic isn't over by the end of the year/early next year (you never know). And only then come up with a tour in a different form. If they cancel the CWT due to Covid, I can't imagine she would go on the road even for an unplugged tour. I doubt people would understand that logic. Well, before the current strict restrictions, some artists already did something similar. They couldn't do full-scale concerts anymore (for a while). so they cancelled their tour and went ahead with shows that adhered to corona restrictions (social distancing, masks, etc.). Of course nothing quite the scale as a World Tour, but we're living in the so called 'new normal", so alternatives have to be thought of. Edited January 4, 2021 at 04:08 PM by CSCfan Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
Xpresso Posted January 4, 2021 at 06:00 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 06:00 PM (edited) Well, before the current strict restrictions, some artists already did something similar. They couldn't do full-scale concerts anymore (for a while). so they cancelled their tour and went ahead with shows that adhered to corona restrictions (social distancing, masks, etc.). Of course nothing quite the scale as a World Tour, but we're living in the so called 'new normal", so alternatives have to be thought of.I'm aware of that but those are mainly local artists. A world tour (no matter how basic it is) is too challenging with the different travel and local restrictions. Edited January 4, 2021 at 06:00 PM by Xpresso Quote
CSCfan Posted January 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 06:25 PM I'm aware of that but those are mainly local artists. A world tour (no matter how basic it is) is too challenging with the different travel and local restrictions. It is, but it also depends on where we are at that point of time. Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
Ukrfan Posted January 4, 2021 at 07:24 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 07:24 PM But you can't simply cancel a major world tour like that. Ticketmaster and AEG would have to refund all that ticket money. They won't do that. And since people bought tickets to the Courage World Tour, it still has to be the Courage World Tour - she can't just change it to an unplugged concert in smaller venues. That's not how business works. My husbands who is in show business says all these big deals always include a part which describes what happens during force majeure. COVID-19 seems to be one of such cases. I mean, it was unforeseen, and both parties have no control over it, so ... 1 Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 4, 2021 at 08:05 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 08:05 PM My husbands who is in show business says all these big deals always include a part which describes what happens during force majeure. COVID-19 seems to be one of such cases. I mean, it was unforeseen, and both parties have no control over it, so ... I've worked in show business for 25 years in every capacity you could think of other than producing. They can cancel the tour, but they'd have to give everyone refunds for their Courage World Tour tickets, Covid or no Covid. Your husband should know that. Quote
Popular Post Tyler1991 Posted January 4, 2021 at 10:44 PM Popular Post Posted January 4, 2021 at 10:44 PM I'm not opposed to vegas but i want it to be super short runs. 12 show runs two times a year with kickass setlists. Make vegas feel like a special event, not the same boring hits and covers. I dont want a 5 year continuance of non stop shows with crappy setlists and over the top lipping. 10 Quote
CSCfan Posted January 4, 2021 at 11:26 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 11:26 PM I've worked in show business for 25 years in every capacity you could think of other than producing. They can cancel the tour, but they'd have to give everyone refunds for their Courage World Tour tickets, Covid or no Covid. Your husband should know that. Then you should know 'Ukrfan' is most likely talking about insurance.... with the promotor/artist/parties involved getting (partly) compensated by insurance policies. Again; of course everyone who bought tickets will get a refund (especially with a promotor as big as AEG Live or LiveNation). There have already been cases of (world) tours being cancelled because the uncertainty around the pandemic (and people getting their money back). 3 Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
mirage Posted January 4, 2021 at 11:29 PM Posted January 4, 2021 at 11:29 PM Yassss!!! Or do it like Gaga, 2 different shows. It's not like she needs to switch up a whole dance routine or whatever. Just show A and show B. It could be that simple. I wonder would a French show work? I'm in for that, but I wonder if the regular tourists and Americans would go and see her. Not everyone is familiar with it. I think she should do more French songs anyway during her show. The response to NMQP and her performance at the AMA's was stunning. I'm not opposed to vegas but i want it to be super short runs. 12 show runs two times a year with kickass setlists. Make vegas feel like a special event, not the same boring hits and covers. I dont want a 5 year continuance of non stop shows with crappy setlists and over the top lipping. Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:02 AM Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:02 AM Then you should know 'Ukrfan' is most likely talking about insurance.... with the promotor/artist/parties involved getting (partly) compensated by insurance policies.Again; of course everyone who bought tickets will get a refund (especially with a promotor as big as AEG Live or LiveNation). There have already been cases of (world) tours being cancelled because the uncertainty around the pandemic (and people getting their money back). Ah. No - without specifically mentioning insurance, I didn't understand what "Ukrfan" was getting at. Yes, they will be compensated somewhat for insurance. Nothing, obviously, to the amount that they would get if the shows actually happened. Someone posted an article pages back in this thread or the CWWT thread that had an interview with the head of AEG. It didn't sound as if he was interested in canceling anything but, rather, just wait until they can tour again and hold onto the full amount of money. Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:05 AM Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:05 AM I actually kind of hope she disappears for a few years. Like five or six years. Just live her life. I highly doubt it will happen but I think a long rest could do wonders for both her soul and creativity. Let her come back when she really wants to and has something to say through music rather than just being the performing machine that she is. Quote
weasley123 Posted January 5, 2021 at 09:51 AM Posted January 5, 2021 at 09:51 AM I doubt a next Vegas residency will follow shortly after the 'Courage tour', especially if they want to properly prepare a brand new show. We don't need no 'Courage in Vegas' show. IMO after the Corona pandemic; they'd either resume the 'Courage World Tour' INCLUDING dates in Asia, Australia, New Zealand and hopefully South-America or cancel the whole tour all together. In case the CWT being cancelled: an unplugged tour would be a perfect replacement (either a real tour or a smaller residencies around the globe): a lot less crew needed and logistically a lot less of a hassle. And of course it's something both Céline and us fans have been longing for a long time. She could do Vegas again after that. But they announced Courage World Tour right after Vegas residency finished. And Courage World Tour is well prepared tour. So they can always do tour and prepare for the next residency simultaneously. Is it make Celine the cash machine like she is today? Yes. I would love to see Celine focus on her new music instead of do greatest hits tour like she did with Courage World Tour. But hey, they promised us a brand new tour, digging her catalogues for a rare songs, etc for Courage World Tour. But still, greatest hits tour is all we got. Easy money always be their priority. So I have no doubt they will announce new residency pretty soon. Quote
Xpresso Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM (edited) Many people seem to forget that Celine runs a huge business with a lot employees. If she wants to keep those faithful employees, she needs to keep them busy. Since she probably doesn't want to always be on the road, Vegas is the perfect solution business-wise. And she loves being on stage, so it makes sense for her. But I also agree that she should do less shows per year to work on other projects; 40 to 50 shows a year would be enough. Edited January 5, 2021 at 12:57 PM by Xpresso 2 Quote
manu23 Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:07 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:07 PM I actually kind of hope she disappears for a few years. Like five or six years. Just live her life. I highly doubt it will happen but I think a long rest could do wonders for both her soul and creativity. Let her come back when she really wants to and has something to say through music rather than just being the performing machine that she is. I don't think she is at that point in her career to take such a long break. She will keep busy for at least 10 more years and then maybe slow down. What I hope is that she finds love again. She is still young and looking great. Love could also help her creativity 2 Quote
Kyle_Jared Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:45 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:45 PM (edited) By the time she gets back to touring she will have been off for a year and a half---MINIMUM. If she gets to do some Courage dates in the late summer/Fall, I think she'll go right into the Vegas residency. You can bet your bottom Dollar with AEG and Concerts West signed to Resorts World she is most definitely the star power they are bringing and with a s*** 2020 they will want her brining in people ASAP. She will no be waiting. Mark my words Edited January 5, 2021 at 02:46 PM by Kyle_Jared Quote
ryba Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:59 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 02:59 PM (edited) I highly doubt that any traditional touring as we know it will take place this year either. Maybe she uses this time to record a new album Edited January 5, 2021 at 02:59 PM by ryba Quote
CSCfan Posted January 5, 2021 at 05:24 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 05:24 PM (edited) But they announced Courage World Tour right after Vegas residency finished. And Courage World Tour is well prepared tour. So they can always do tour and prepare for the next residency simultaneously. That's true.... as far as her team goes, Céline on the other hand... Someone posted an article pages back in this thread or the CWWT thread that had an interview with the head of AEG. It didn't sound as if he was interested in canceling anything but, rather, just wait until they can tour again and hold onto the full amount of money. Yeah true... but there's only so much time they can hold on to our money. I myself am almost at a point where I'm like give me a refund.They've been sitting on my/our money for almost 1,5 years now.. If the tour gets postponed to 2022, it'll be 2,5 years. Edited January 5, 2021 at 05:28 PM by CSCfan Quote »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» MATHIAS ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzPrxI0AIDY
nuts2you Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:27 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:27 PM That's true.... as far as her team goes, Céline on the other hand... Yeah true... but there's only so much time they can hold on to our money. I myself am almost at a point where I'm like give me a refund.They've been sitting on my/our money for almost 1,5 years now.. If the tour gets postponed to 2022, it'll be 2,5 years. Im with you there, But for 1 of my shows I have front row, Not going to give that up so fast,, I can wait alittle bit more longer Quote
mirage Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:33 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:33 PM I seriously don't care if she cancels or not.I'm already over the Courage era by now and just want my money back. I will see her in Vegas when she hopefully presents something new and extremely good. (which I doubt) Not this another greatest hits songfest mixed with some covers.Unless this time off gave her some creative ideas about her show, her music. Who knows. Maybe they will release Courage part II and promote it in the shows. Then I'm all in. 4 Quote
Xpresso Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:45 PM Posted January 5, 2021 at 07:45 PM By the time she gets back to touring she will have been off for a year and a half---MINIMUM. If she gets to do some Courage dates in the late summer/Fall, I think she'll go right into the Vegas residency. Well we don't really know what she's been doing. Maybe she's been recording... There's a recording studio not far from where she was staying north of Montreal.She probably took some acting lessons before shooting Text For You. It's not like she doesn't do anything. Celine is hyper... Quote
Ukrfan Posted January 6, 2021 at 03:19 PM Posted January 6, 2021 at 03:19 PM I've worked in show business for 25 years in every capacity you could think of other than producing. They can cancel the tour, but they'd have to give everyone refunds for their Courage World Tour tickets, Covid or no Covid. Your husband should know that. Well, of course they would need to give refunds. I never said they wouldn't. What I meant was that all these nuances are written in contracts between all the parties. Insurances exist for a reason. A world tour CAN be canceled, and it is very likely to be, unfortunately. Quote
garyhollander Posted January 7, 2021 at 09:32 AM Posted January 7, 2021 at 09:32 AM Guys remember what she did the lasty years she did her vegas shows and during the summer she would do smalal asia tour and small europe tour etc etc maybe thats what they are going to do her shows in vegas would still be like 70 or something a year so maybe they will combine it this way... Seen as the world tour was there first probable they calculated that into her new show who knows Quote
browseceline Posted January 7, 2021 at 09:36 AM Posted January 7, 2021 at 09:36 AM (edited) I seriously don't care if she cancels or not.I'm already over the Courage era by now and just want my money back. I will see her in Vegas when she hopefully presents something new and extremely good. (which I doubt) Not this another greatest hits songfest mixed with some covers.Unless this time off gave her some creative ideas about her show, her music. Who knows. Maybe they will release Courage part II and promote it in the shows. Then I'm all in. I agree with you. I want my money back too. I think she really mislead us from the beginning to promise something so special and diving deep in her repertoire. I was like I have to see this show. But it is the same as every year with the same songs and some covers, that is not what she promised. As a show it works for the masses, I get that, but I rather have my money back. Can do better things with it now. Verzonden vanaf mijn iPad met Tapatalk Edited January 7, 2021 at 09:38 AM by browseceline 1 Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Céline RO Posted January 7, 2021 at 11:06 AM Posted January 7, 2021 at 11:06 AM 1610011966[/url]' post='2397015']Guys remember what she did the lasty years she did her vegas shows and during the summer she would do smalal asia tour and small europe tour etc etc maybe thats what they are going to do her shows in vegas would still be like 70 or something a year so maybe they will combine it this way... Seen as the world tour was there first probable they calculated that into her new show who knows She could start a residency while continuing with the Courage tour at the same time if she really has to because of contracts. It would be an insanely busy schedule which would pose many logistical problems but it’s not impossible . Quote The best is yet to come...
AdrienneM Posted January 7, 2021 at 07:53 PM Posted January 7, 2021 at 07:53 PM I'm not opposed to vegas but i want it to be super short runs. 12 show runs two times a year with kickass setlists. Make vegas feel like a special event, not the same boring hits and covers. I dont want a 5 year continuance of non stop shows with crappy setlists and over the top lipping. Agreed. Have her do two runs a year, maybe a spring dun in May-ish and a run around the holiday season through December/January. Like you said, make her Vegas appearances feel like a special event, change like 40%-50% of the set list between runs, don’t allow her to become that zombie Vegas state Celine by keeping her on her toes and with new material to engage her 1 Quote
scielle Posted January 22, 2021 at 05:32 AM Posted January 22, 2021 at 05:32 AM Forget Vegas, come to New York! “Times Square market is ripe for a high-end casino,” reads a slide in a Nov. 10 promotional deck for the L&L project in Times Square, which features renderings of attractive young people playing table games like roulette and blackjack, and an image of Celine Dion, a Las Vegas mainstay, singing to a packed crowd.” Javascript is not enabled OR refresh the page to viewClick here to view the Tweet 3 Quote
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