LeChauffeur100 Posted June 17, 2025 at 04:56 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 04:56 PM Forget Vegas, she’ll do her grand comeback in Rio 2026 in front of 2 million people at the beach 3 Quote EVERYONE AFRAID TO BE FORGOTTEN - album & film by ionnalee; out NOW at ionnalee.comhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-8uJUpL5A
george_matei Posted June 17, 2025 at 05:45 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 05:45 PM Forget Vegas, she’ll do her grand comeback in Rio 2026 in front of 2 million people at the beachOh. what a dream. what a dream! you saying this just like that or are u pointing something? 1 Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 17, 2025 at 05:57 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 05:57 PM The main problem is what you call " iconic" voice. It may be a problem for most of us since her iconic voice is the one from the 90's beginning 2000. Honetly I don't want to hear the voice we've heard the last 10 years. it's not "THE"Celine DION voice we all fell in love with. But illness and age would not help To me, after everything she’s been saying these past few months, it makes me think that she never really lost her iconic voice — she just made it more nasal so she could keep singing despite all the health problems she was going through and hiding from us. 1 Quote
isurrender Posted June 17, 2025 at 06:52 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 06:52 PM To me, after everything she’s been saying these past few months, it makes me think that she never really lost her iconic voice — she just made it more nasal so she could keep singing despite all the health problems she was going through and hiding from us. Are you in touch with her? I don't recall she said anything these past few months... 1 Quote
Ukrfan Posted June 17, 2025 at 07:13 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 07:13 PM To me, after everything she’s been saying these past few months, it makes me think that she never really lost her iconic voice — she just made it more nasal so she could keep singing despite all the health problems she was going through and hiding from us. But we literally saw Celine struggling to sing in documentary (It’s like I know you … it’s like I know what I wanna do … I know you can show me) and during Love Again sessions.... Quote
DCCeline Posted June 17, 2025 at 07:35 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 07:35 PM No because her "iconic" voice (if we judge it by the 90s) was basically gone by 2003. If so then she had SPS way earlier then 2008. Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted June 17, 2025 at 08:49 PM Posted June 17, 2025 at 08:49 PM Her vocals were still amazing many years later. I think her Celine show years were very good before Rebecca passed. Kev x Quote
RosieBarron Posted June 18, 2025 at 04:55 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 04:55 AM Her vocals were still amazing many years later. I think her Celine show years were very good before Rebecca passed. Kev x You are right, her voice was very good when I saw the show in the early years of 'Celine'. The stress of Rene's illness, and as we now know that most likely making her SPS worse, really changed it in my opinion. Quote
Davey84 Posted June 18, 2025 at 06:43 AM Author Posted June 18, 2025 at 06:43 AM You are right, her voice was very good when I saw the show in the early years of 'Celine'. The stress of Rene's illness, and as we now know that most likely making her SPS worse, really changed it in my opinion. Céline sounded amazing at the premiere in 2011, the year off after the TCWT really paid off. I don't know why the changes in Céline's voice are now all 'related' to SPS, did people forget she performed 5 nights a week in Vegas? 717 shows in total?! And after that she did a massive world tour. No wonder her voice had grown tired at times. But even then she had amazing vocal achievements. The only time I really noticed a big change in her voice was during the 2013 tour. When Céline started the show, she sounded 'higher' than she'd normally sing. I said right away to my friends: something is going on, because she doesn't sound her normal self! We later found out that was the time they learnt the cancer of René was back 1 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
PuraVida Posted June 18, 2025 at 08:59 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 08:59 AM I'd probably say ~2014 was when her voice wasn't the A+ instrument it had been in the past. It's natural for your voice and technique to change with age, but we'll never know how Celine might have sounded in her 40s/50s, etc. without SPS. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:00 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:00 AM Mariah gave a concert in London this week.Can someone tell if it was prerecorded or live? Normally, I can notice if it was live or precorded. That sofia part was live since it’s just an adlibs. Her only usual live bits are the intros and the outros. The rest Fully Lipped. Quote
comingback Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:09 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:09 AM Hero sounds live to me, but in a lower key. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:10 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:10 AM (edited) Hero sounds live to me, but in a lower key. I heard it’s a new pre recorded track that she recorded recently. I was surprised that she lipped her entire vegas show and her current tours. Some lambs (not the delulus) also made an “Only Live” parts compilation in every tour and vegas show she did. And it only reaches 1-3 minutes that includes the speech lol Edited June 18, 2025 at 09:14 AM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
PuraVida Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:14 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:14 AM I've noticed it seems a lot of Mariah fans can't tell--or lie--about when she's lipping a given performance. Live or not, there's been something off for a while with her onstage energy. Almost seems like she's medicated at times. Many in the comments have observed the same thing. Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:19 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:19 AM I've noticed it seems a lot of Mariah fans can't tell--or lie--about when she's lipping a given performance. Live or not, there's been something off for a while with her onstage energy. Almost seems like she's medicated at times. Many in the comments have observed the same thing. Some lambs says it’s the side effects of her meds because of her bipolar condition… but you can obviously hear the changes in her vocals now. It’s up to her fans if they will accept it or not. Quote
comingback Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:21 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:21 AM (edited) I think she is under medication because of her bipolar illness. Edited June 18, 2025 at 09:21 AM by comingback Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:26 AM Posted June 18, 2025 at 09:26 AM (edited) But I’m still amazed with Celine despite the sickness she still sings more live and less pre recorded. Her last Courage World Tour her premiere in Quebec. She only lipped 4 songs out of 20 songs in a setlist, if anglophone is incuded a total of 6 lipped songs out of 22 songs. The question is in her current condition will she able to do the show live since her last last concert was in 2020. Edited June 18, 2025 at 09:27 AM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
PuraVida Posted June 18, 2025 at 02:49 PM Posted June 18, 2025 at 02:49 PM Some lambs says it’s the side effects of her meds because of her bipolar condition… but you can obviously hear the changes in her vocals now. It’s up to her fans if they will accept it or not. Completely different situations, but when Celine was on all that valium, I don't think anyone had any idea she was performing while medicated. 1 Quote
Shamrock_1982 Posted June 18, 2025 at 05:45 PM Posted June 18, 2025 at 05:45 PM I know it was covered and part of the design of the theatre and the vents in the stage of A new day… to pump in humidity and sometimes this was even visible to fans during the show. But for the second residency the stage and staging changed slightly so was there these humidity vents on that stage does anyone know? Just curious Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 19, 2025 at 04:53 PM Posted June 19, 2025 at 04:53 PM Are you in touch with her? I don't recall she said anything these past few months... No! But I remember reading it somewhere, and I don’t know whose writing it was. Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 19, 2025 at 04:57 PM Posted June 19, 2025 at 04:57 PM (edited) But we literally saw Celine struggling to sing in documentary (It’s like I know you … it’s like I know what I wanna do … I know you can show me) and during Love Again sessions....No, I don’t know Céline. I wish I did. I said that because I read it somewhere, I don’t remember where, I think it was in an interview, said by her. Edited June 19, 2025 at 04:57 PM by CélineI'mAlive Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 19, 2025 at 05:20 PM Posted June 19, 2025 at 05:20 PM No because her "iconic" voice (if we judge it by the 90s) was basically gone by 2003. If so then she had SPS way earlier then 2008.I have no contact with Céline, so I don’t know what she might be thinking or how things actually happened regarding when she felt pain. I'm simply commenting on what I've read from people on this forum, and from Spanish and English news outlets... In my opinion, it could be many things — from her having felt pain even before we saw her ENT consultation on the Taking Chances DVD but giving it little or almost no importance, to her simply changing her voice to sound more nasal because she wanted it to sound different. What I’ve read is that the A New Day residency wasn’t good for her, and that it very likely played a significant role in the development of her rare illness. Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 19, 2025 at 05:38 PM Posted June 19, 2025 at 05:38 PM But we literally saw Celine struggling to sing in documentary (It’s like I know you … it’s like I know what I wanna do … I know you can show me) and during Love Again sessions.... No, I don't know her, but in my opinion, I think there's also some basis to this. Look, play the Saudi Arabia performance from 2024, and then listen to an a cappella of Céline singing "I'm Alive", but not from a live performance—use the studio version. And if you listen very carefully, you might notice very small differences, making the Saudi version sound very slightly like her iconic voice from the '90s, for example.Does this mean that maybe Céline never actually lost her iconic '80s voice and perhaps just adapted it to sound more nasal in order to avoid vocal strain, since her symptoms were already starting to appear? If you want to catch the difference, you have to pay very close attention.Also, considering that Céline is with Sony Music and they have a vault with all her unreleased songs, instrumentals, and a cappellas—why do the a cappellas of that song available online not sound the same as in the Saudi performance? I'm Alive didn’t exist in the '90s, so Céline couldn’t have recorded it with her iconic voice back then. And as I said, given that they already have the a cappella from when Céline recorded "A New Day Has Come," do you really think Sony would go to the trouble of recreating Céline’s iconic '80s–'90s voice artificially?Think about it carefully, because to me, it all fits. Could it be that her voice never actually changed, and maybe now she’s working on returning with the voice she’s always had and never really lost? Quote
PuraVida Posted June 20, 2025 at 05:52 AM Posted June 20, 2025 at 05:52 AM But for the second residency the stage and staging changed slightly so was there these humidity vents on that stage does anyone know? I think Bette Midler / Adele may have mentioned at some point that the humidity was still a feature of the stage. It's good she did things like that, and even some of the lip syncing -- I've heard professional singers talk about how the human voice is simply not meant to be put through such a rigorous activity as consistently as a tour usually demands or even a Vegas residency (esp. A New Day). One has to be very careful, particularly if they're singing with a lot of chest voice like Celine and some of her contemporaries. 1 Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 21, 2025 at 11:55 AM Posted June 21, 2025 at 11:55 AM I think Bette Midler / Adele may have mentioned at some point that the humidity was still a feature of the stage. It's good she did things like that, and even some of the lip syncing -- I've heard professional singers talk about how the human voice is simply not meant to be put through such a rigorous activity as consistently as a tour usually demands or even a Vegas residency (esp. A New Day). One has to be very careful, particularly if they're singing with a lot of chest voice like Celine and some of her contemporaries. Especially in a residency like Céline’s, or in any of her tours, she knows exactly what she’s doing — but she demands a lot from her voice. Almost all of her songs, except for maybe two or three, are extremely difficult. 2 Quote
nuts2you Posted June 24, 2025 at 09:39 PM Posted June 24, 2025 at 09:39 PM question, not sure if anybody has notice that Dolly will be doing show the first /2nd week of Dec? My ? Does anybody know if they have to go thought Celine to Perform there ,How does that work Quote
Céline RO Posted June 26, 2025 at 06:40 PM Posted June 26, 2025 at 06:40 PM No, I don't know her, but in my opinion, I think there's also some basis to this. Look, play the Saudi Arabia performance from 2024, and then listen to an a cappella of Céline singing "I'm Alive", but not from a live performance—use the studio version. And if you listen very carefully, you might notice very small differences, making the Saudi version sound very slightly like her iconic voice from the '90s, for example.Does this mean that maybe Céline never actually lost her iconic '80s voice and perhaps just adapted it to sound more nasal in order to avoid vocal strain, since her symptoms were already starting to appear? If you want to catch the difference, you have to pay very close attention.Also, considering that Céline is with Sony Music and they have a vault with all her unreleased songs, instrumentals, and a cappellas—why do the a cappellas of that song available online not sound the same as in the Saudi performance? I'm Alive didn’t exist in the '90s, so Céline couldn’t have recorded it with her iconic voice back then. And as I said, given that they already have the a cappella from when Céline recorded "A New Day Has Come," do you really think Sony would go to the trouble of recreating Céline’s iconic '80s–'90s voice artificially?Think about it carefully, because to me, it all fits. Could it be that her voice never actually changed, and maybe now she’s working on returning with the voice she’s always had and never really lost? I don’t disagree with you. Most singers’ voices really don’t change that much through the years, certainly not as much as Céline’s has. The drastic changes in Céline’s voice from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s to the 2010s are obviously not natural. Céline changed her voice by her own will. She worked on it, adapting and correcting things. With her discipline and overall approach, she would 100% have been able to preserve her vocal tone as it was at any point in her career, had she chosen to. 1 Quote The best is yet to come...
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 26, 2025 at 10:23 PM Posted June 26, 2025 at 10:23 PM I don't disagree with you. Most singers' voices really don't change that much through the years, certainly not as much as Céline's has. The drastic changes in Céline's voice from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s to the 2010s are obviously not natural. Céline changed her voice by her own will. She worked on it, adapting and correcting things. With her discipline and overall approach, she would 100% have been able to preserve her vocal tone as it was at any point in her career, had she chosen to.I understand very little about singing, but she's using a more nasal voice. For example, the voice she uses in "Incredible" is just a placement of her voice. It's not that she's lost her iconic voice — it's very likely still there — but she simply adjusted her way of singing. What I don’t understand is why she would do that. Maybe it’s because she was feeling unwell before the Taking Chances tour but didn’t think much of it? And what a coincidence that now, in her performance at the fashion show, she sings "I'm Alive" with her iconic voice. Could it be that she’s facing everything now and leaving behind the nasal voice to sing like she did in the 80s and 90s? Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted June 27, 2025 at 08:26 PM Posted June 27, 2025 at 08:26 PM I don't disagree with you. Most singers' voices really don't change that much through the years, certainly not as much as Céline's has. The drastic changes in Céline's voice from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s to the 2010s are obviously not natural. Céline changed her voice by her own will. She worked on it, adapting and correcting things. With her discipline and overall approach, she would 100% have been able to preserve her vocal tone as it was at any point in her career, had she chosen to. I think the changes of her voice from 80's to 90's is because remember when she hurt her vocal cords during the Incognito Tour? She lost her voice during the show and her doctor gave her 2 choices whether she will have her vocal surgery or will not talk for how many months. And she chose to shut up for a long time. Then, Rene got her a vocal coach. That's where the changes happened. 1 Quote
CélineI'mAlive Posted June 27, 2025 at 09:11 PM Posted June 27, 2025 at 09:11 PM I think the changes of her voice from 80's to 90's is because remember when she hurt her vocal cords during the Incognito Tour? She lost her voice during the show and her doctor gave her 2 choices whether she will have her vocal surgery or will not talk for how many months. And she chose to shut up for a long time. Then, Rene got her a vocal coach. That's where the changes happened.So that’s like a confirmation that her iconic voice was never lost, she just kept it hidden for so many years — and maybe now, is she using it again? Hopefully she’ll use it for her new albums or singles (if she releases any). Guys, what do you think? Quote
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