New Las Vegas residency show!

[AdrienneM]

Thank god no one here is actually on her team or in any sort of creative role, cause for all the complaints about The Power of Love, I Drove All Night and I Surrender as show openers, these suggestions have been just as bad if not worse. And I too think a lot of these songs that people like to recommend are both too hard for her to sing, and would leave most of the audience sitting there scone faced because they’ve no clue what she’s singing. This argument has been done to death on here for years, and I’m really not here to argue or to start debates or running back and forths with people, cause frankly who has the time or energy, it’s not that deep… but the reality is- just look at the actual audience reactions and reviews to her shows. All the hits get thunderous reactions, and anything that wasn’t at least a mini-hit gets nigh on silence. If You Asked Me To ironically being one of them despite being a top 10 hit for her. All the reviews from people who went to vegas and The Courage World Tour pointed out that they love the hit filled set list and the fact she sticks to the standards. That’s what sells tickets. Not people on fan sites wanting unperformed songs from 25 years ago that she can’t even sing anymore, and they themselves won’t even be buying a ticket or going to the show anyway. Visually, it will need to be a stunning show to keep up with what’s now big in Vegas and with the theatres massive technical ability, with specifications she herself requested. The Courage Tour was a visually stunning show. Easily the best she’s ever produced; high quality, high production value and stunningly designed. She needs to bring that and more to this vegas show to keep up aesthetically and I think she knows that. But the songs? (And I know this is one of the points everyone hates and argues against, but it’s unfortunately just reality) Those are what people pay to see. Why change something that sells massively, the audience love, gets overwhelmingly positive reviews and makes the audiences gives energy that she feeds off of as an entertainer? I too would love to see a show with a heavily invigorated set list and lots of extras and b-sides and deep cuts. But there’s a time and a place- and Vegas, where every single performer does what is essentially a greatest hits show with some glitter thrown on, is not that place. Edited July 30, 2022 at 02:11 PM by AdrienneM

[Shamrock_1982]

I have to disagree, she used to open A new day… with Nature Boy which most people never heard of and in 2011 Open Arms, which is pretty hard to sing, so based on these points she could add anything as the show opener for this new show.

 

So let’s wait and see

[isurrender]

You are so right!

 

A 12 year-old point is so relevant!

[RosieBarron]

I have to disagree, she used to open A new day… with Nature Boy which most people never heard of and in 2011 Open Arms, which is pretty hard to sing, so based on these points she could add anything as the show opener for this new show.

 

So let’s wait and see

 

Open Arms was a great opener, just her then the curtain pulled away. I saw it several times live and it never lost its impact for me.

Edited July 30, 2022 at 07:09 PM by RosieBarron

[Davey84]

 

Open Arms was a great opener, just her then the curtain pulled away. I saw it several times live and it never lost its impact for me.

So much better than the later opening songs!!

 

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[smw]

For me, her best and most chills-inducing opening songs have been:

 

A New Day Has Come - seeing this live during A New Day…, when the mirror shattered and this song began, it was jaw dropping and spine tingling. The DVD recording doesn’t do it justice.

 

And The Power of Love - for the Falling Into You tour.

[CelineDionFreak]

I would love to see her return this year, and if she feels she can, more power to her. I just wish we would’ve known before now, but I understand that they’ve got to be waiting for her go ahead.

 

I may have to sit this round of shows out, if there are shows, which is sad. I had rear orchestra seats for the premiere originally and was so thrilled to go to the premiere. I’m not saying I can’t go, but I don’t think I’ll be able to swing it, timing wise. It’ll be bittersweet if it does end up being late this year but I get if she wants to get back out there and perform.

[PuraVida]

She can reinvent old songs musically, and they don't have to be in the original key. And people will still love them.

[PuraVida]

I have to disagree, she used to open A new day… with Nature Boy which most people never heard of and in 2011 Open Arms, which is pretty hard to sing, so based on these points she could add anything as the show opener for this new show.

 

So let’s wait and see

 

Her second residency was full of songs which were a total, random collection which were not her greatest hits or expected choices. And the fans still ate it up. Rene even said it was one of her best shows.

 

As a reminder: "At Seventeen", "How Do You Keep The Music Playing", "Mr. Paganini", "Open Arms", the Michael Jackson medley, the Billy Joel lullabye song, a James Bond medley, "Overjoyed", the Jacques Brel song --- even Adele at one point.

 

Celine can, and has, been very adventurous with her setlist at times. She, her creative team, and Caesar's all experienced tons of success and cash from that.

[CelinesDIVO5]

You guys...

 

I don't know in what world you're living in...

 

Most of the never-performed songs had to be sung back then when they were released. What's the point to bring them up when obviously she can't sing them anymore ?

 

These songs have to remain as perfect as they were.

 

And this is no way to talk her down, this is just facts. Celine has already outlasted the other members of the trinity when it comes to vocal acrobatics and I'm sure it must be very hard for her to process the natural decline of her abilities. I mean she can't back up on her musical style ( like Mariah) or any "excuse" ( drugs for Houston).

 

She will be 55 when Courage Tour will resume . She and her fanbase really need to face it: she has to re-arrange her repertoire.

She was already struggling with "If you asked me to" already lowered-high notes 3 years go...

 

She hinted - I mean the only time she talked about her new residency - at new versions of her songs. She won't be able to fake it and fool her audience for another decade : her mimed versions of TPOL; IACBTMN, ABM can"t stay as they are when she will be 60. They need to move and she needs to sing them live reworked.

 

That's her challenge right now but her team sucks and her fans only thinks of difficult songs out of the blue...

 

I don't know what is her (vocal/mind) state right now : Has covid/illness shifted a bit of her perception of her craft?

 

One thing for sure : the first thing we hear about her return is linked to her wardrobe and this is not a good sign for what I care about Céline. :-D

I don't think we will experience the slighest change and that will be one (long) missed opportunity .

After having gone through everything that she/we have, coming back as before would be very disappointing but getting ready for it : I don't have any trust in her and her team when it comes to getting out of her comfort zone...

 

Where did we hear about her wardrobe?

[Remon]

We don't know her vocal condition right now, but I hope she will take some vocal lessons before Vegas and the Tour. You are right, she can't fool the audience and fans with playbacktracks from 30 years ago anymore. She must find a setlist that suits her current/mature voice. I think she can sing Where Is The Love, Love Is On The Way, Call The Man or Nothing Broken But My Heart with her current voice. And yes Only One Road would be amazing but I think only a lower key, stripped down version would work nowadays.

 

I think that's the biggest challenge for her and her team...

 

Just stumbled upon this lovely acoustic version of IACBTMN by Loreen. This kind of renditions will probably please the diehard fans because songs are being sung in a new way and the mainstream public will get the hits they want to hear.

 

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

Her second residency was full of songs which were a total, random collection which were not her greatest hits or expected choices. And the fans still ate it up. Rene even said it was one of her best shows.

 

As a reminder: "At Seventeen", "How Do You Keep The Music Playing", "Mr. Paganini", "Open Arms", the Michael Jackson medley, the Billy Joel lullabye song, a James Bond medley, "Overjoyed", the Jacques Brel song --- even Adele at one point.

 

Celine can, and has, been very adventurous with her setlist at times. She, her creative team, and Caesar's all experienced tons of success and cash from that.

 

If you think covering other people’s songs is “adventurous,” then, I don’t know what to tell you.

[comingback]

 

 

If you think covering other people’s songs is “adventurous,” then, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

The Bond medley was amazing and it fitted the show. But yes, no random covers please. I would only accept a Whitney or Barbra medley.

Edited July 31, 2022 at 03:10 PM by comingback

[stevo]

Nooo, no medley of covers. A medley of her own music. Why don’t they/doesn’t she like to sing the songs she’s recorded, that millions of people love her for!? Baffling.

[AdrienneM]

 

 

If you think covering other people’s songs is “adventurous,” then, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

To this day her only show where non-recorded covers outnumbered her own songs. Only 44% of the set were her own songs. Genuinely awful.

Edited July 31, 2022 at 03:20 PM by AdrienneM

[PuraVida]

If you think covering other people's songs is "adventurous," then, I don't know what to tell you.

 

The point was that, unlike some fans have stated in this thread, she clearly does not have to stick to just her own "hits" and the expected setlist.

 

So, if she did it for the second residency, she can easily swap those random covers for HER own repetoire. Which I always support more than anything. I do not agree with the fans who said that the songs she hasn't performed live have to be left on the vine.

[Nmj]

Nooo, no medley of covers. A medley of her own music. Why don’t they/doesn’t she like to sing the songs she’s recorded, that millions of people love her for!? Baffling.

 

I’d rather there be no covers at all, but we all know she will do some unfortunately. So If she does, I hope she keeps it to a minimum. A one song tribute to Whitney, or Streisand etc would suffice. I don’t want medley of covers after covers… starts to feel like Celine doing karaoke.

[PuraVida]

Nooo, no medley of covers. A medley of her own music. Why don't they/doesn't she like to sing the songs she's recorded, that millions of people love her for!? Baffling.

 

I think she is scared of not pleasing the fans. Before, I think Rene and then her new post-Rene team steered her against including songs some of the lesser known gems and her personal faves

 

But she's on record as saying most of her faves are her B-sides. I really wonder which ones those are, and I hope we get to hear some one day.

[Celine Fan 77]

I'd love to see an English version of the 2016 tour in terms of setlist. "Then You Look At Me" definitely needs to be part of the new show

[ordinary fan]

Thank god no one here is actually on her team or in any sort of creative role, cause for all the complaints about The Power of Love, I Drove All Night and I Surrender as show openers, these suggestions have been just as bad if not worse. And I too think a lot of these songs that people like to recommend are both too hard for her to sing, and would leave most of the audience sitting there scone faced because they've no clue what she's singing. This argument has been done to death on here for years, and I'm really not here to argue or to start debates or running back and forths with people, cause frankly who has the time or energy, it's not that deep… but the reality is- just look at the actual audience reactions and reviews to her shows. All the hits get thunderous reactions, and anything that wasn't at least a mini-hit gets nigh on silence. If You Asked Me To ironically being one of them despite being a top 10 hit for her. All the reviews from people who went to vegas and The Courage World Tour pointed out that they love the hit filled set list and the fact she sticks to the standards. That's what sells tickets. Not people on fan sites wanting unperformed songs from 25 years ago that she can't even sing anymore, and they themselves won't even be buying a ticket or going to the show anyway. Visually, it will need to be a stunning show to keep up with what's now big in Vegas and with the theatres massive technical ability, with specifications she herself requested. The Courage Tour was a visually stunning show. Easily the best she's ever produced; high quality, high production value and stunningly designed. She needs to bring that and more to this vegas show to keep up aesthetically and I think she knows that. But the songs? (And I know this is one of the points everyone hates and argues against, but it's unfortunately just reality) Those are what people pay to see. Why change something that sells massively, the audience love, gets overwhelmingly positive reviews and makes the audiences gives energy that she feeds off of as an entertainer? I too would love to see a show with a heavily invigorated set list and lots of extras and b-sides and deep cuts. But there's a time and a place- and Vegas, where every single performer does what is essentially a greatest hits show with some glitter thrown on, is not that place.

But she could easily do all the hits and still have half of the setlist to fill with her own lesser known songs. That would be amazing and being honest: a show without the hits wouldn't be a Celine Dion show

[AdrienneM]

But she could easily do all the hits and still have half of the setlist to fill with her own lesser known songs. That would be amazing and being honest: a show without the hits wouldn't be a Celine Dion show

 

Her average vegas set list has always been 18 songs long. Once you get The Power of Love, IACBTMN, BYLM, ABM, MHWGO, ANDHC, BATB, IA, TTWII, LCMM and RDMH out of the way, you’ve got about 7 songs left. 3 of those will be some sort of interlude performed by the band or through video montage. So you’ve got 4 songs left- their formula has *always* been the belief that people (and by people, I mean the 99% of the audience who are causal fans) would rather hear her cover songs they do know very well, then random songs they’ve never heard of. I’d safely assume if you asked any person outside a Celine concert if they’d rather hear her sing Greatest Love Of All or In His Touch, they’re gonna say the former. This doesn’t reflect my personal feelings towards sets or what *I* would like to see, but it’s being realistic, pragmatic and accepting that what I want is not what the other 4,000 people in the venue would want.

Edited August 1, 2022 at 08:23 AM by AdrienneM

[jpatdeleon09]

She should sing more of her old songs. That may refresh the audience minds and will say. "Wait! I know this song! OMG! Yes! I forgot she sang this before..."

 

They did a great job in including again the "If You Asked Me To" song in Courage World Tour. Now, put some more old songs. I think they can do that in residency show if they're being careful.

 

Residency Shows = more Céline songs - I think it makes more sense since her residency shows are only named Céline

 

World Tour = New songs + the never ending 7 songs (I don't know why are we tired with this songs which supposed to be NOT lol) + few old songs of hers and few covers

Edited August 1, 2022 at 09:16 AM by jpatdeleon09

[celinesounds]

If she does Whitney I want an uptempo song.

 

Celine's carrear was built singing covers

 

Unison

The power of love

All by myself….

 

Just a few

 

As an opening song I would love something different,

Maybe could be a nice idea using Love can move mountains as opening number, she always sings the song as an encore

[stevo]

It’s different (in my opinion) when she sings her hits or well known recordings that originally were covers than just singing random songs. Like The Power of Love is as much a Celine song as it is a Jennifer Rush song.

 

Remember that cursed John Farnham You’re the Voice that she tried to force feed the world.

[PuraVida]

Her average vegas set list has always been 18 songs long. Once you get The Power of Love, IACBTMN, BYLM, ABM, MHWGO, ANDHC, BATB, IA, TTWII, LCMM and RDMH out of the way, you've got about 7 songs left.

 

This math isn't correct. She's had 18 "show numbers", but her last residency varied anywhere from 23 - 28 songs -- either sung in full or in medleys. And the amount sung by her band or done on video without her varied from 1 - 5.

 

So even pessimistic math would mean there are approx. 18 - 23 songs Celine will be singing in some form or another. So that's anywhere from 7 - 12 songs that are not her hits that she can play around with assuming she included the songs you listed.

Edited August 1, 2022 at 01:01 PM by PuraVida

[Nmj]

It’s different (in my opinion) when she sings her hits or well known recordings that originally were covers than just singing random songs. Like The Power of Love is as much a Celine song as it is a Jennifer Rush song.

 

Remember that cursed John Farnham You’re the Voice that she tried to force feed the world.

 

I think she may bring back that bore fest

[AdrienneM]

I’ve hidden this reply because it’s a TL;DR, just a response to a previous message. Just skip over if uninterested.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This math isn't correct. She's had 18 "show numbers", but her last residency varied anywhere from 23 - 28 songs -- either sung in full or in medleys. And the amount sung by her band or done on video without her varied from 1 - 5.

 

So even pessimistic math would mean there are approx. 18 - 23 songs Celine will be singing in some form or another. So that's anywhere from 7 - 12 songs that are not her hits that she can play around with assuming she included the songs you listed.

 

I find it hilarious that you’ve tried to “disprove” my maths, but in turn have only proven that you cannot count.

 

This was her set list for the entire last year of her last residency:

 

1. “The Power of Love"

2. "That's the Way It Is"

3. "I'm Alive"

4. "Because You Loved Me"

5. "It's All Coming Back to Me Now"

6. "Beauty and the Beast" (duet with Barnev Valsaint)

7. "Recovering"

8. "You're the Voice"

9. "Pour que tu m'aimes encore"

10. "All by Myself"

11. String Medley: "At Seventeen"/"A New Day Has Come"/"Unison"

12. ” To Love You More"

13. Medley: "Uptown Funk/Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough/We Are Family/Groove Is in the Heart/Sex Machine" (by backup singers)

14. Medley: "Kiss/Purple Rain"

15. Medley: "Love Can Move Mountains"/ "River Deep, Mountain High"

16. "My Heart Will Go On"

17. “Can't Help Falling In Love" (acapella)

 

Medleys have never been counted as more than one song because the average medley she performed was barely the length of one, maybe at a push, 2 songs. Medleys are condensed into one piece of a set, but even if we took that at face value, she herself here only performed 20 songs- 4 of which are covers she’s never recorded, 12 of which (MORE than I counted before hand in my previous post) are the hits and non negotiables. Meaning there are 4 songs left over. 1 of which is a hit, but not a non-negotiable outside of Asia (TLYM), 1 is Recovering, her tribute song to Rene, which was at the time a non-negotiable in itself, and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it came back, and then a grand total of *TWO* were older songs she hadn’t performed In a while- At Seventeen, and Unison. Both of which in a newly arranged version at less than 2 minutes each.

 

Even if you go all the way back for the 4 year run of the “new” Celine show from 2015 onwards, the average set list length was 21 total songs that she performed, even with medleys split up, and if you go to 2017 and beyond, the volume of covers was even higher which caused the actual number of open slots for non hits and non-interludes to be even smaller.

 

The biggest set she ever did in Vegas was the first week of shows in August 2015, where she did 24 songs. But consequently, 6 of those were covers, 11 were hits, 3 were carry over songs from the 2011-2014 run, and of the 5 remaining, 2 of them were again, decent hits (I Surrender and WDMHBN). So really, despite trying to point out my maths is wrong and that my point is therefore invalid, you should’ve really spent time actually reading through the set lists, because you would’ve realised that your ratios, number ranges and set list lengths were *wildly* in accurate.

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 at 01:33 PM by AdrienneM

[DionFanAlways]

Maybe she’ll discuss a little of what happened to her. I’m not holding my breath for it though.

[stevo]

Maybe she’ll discuss a little of what happened to her. I’m not holding my breath for it though.

 

I assume this will mark the great crescendo in her big Docufilm and her triumphant return to Vegas.

[ryba]

I need Celine to sing Love Doesn’t Ask Why live in concert. I just need this in my life!