"Lying Down" - Official Topic

[Bruno Portugal]

that is what I said. The piano demo might have been recorded in one take, but it was never released. Walters versions were released, and she didn’t record those in one take. This is what he said. So it is a lie, because they told us that what we hear is the demo, but that’s not true. It’s Walters version.

 

Sorry, but there is no lie here!

It was never said that My Heart Will Go On was recorded in a single take.

James Horner wrote the song and as he thought it was unfair to exclude Celine from the soundtrack for the Spildberg film, he and Will Jennings created MHWGO specifically for Celine's voice. Celine, after hearing the version sung at the piano by Horner (she did not like his singing) went to the studio and recorded the demo version in order to convince James Cameron to include it in the soundtrack. René's insistence was necessary because Celine did not want to record it and even David Foster refused to produce it saying that the song would ruin Celine's career, lol. The voice we hear is the voice from that recording. The orchestra was added after Cameron said yes to My Heart Will Go On.

It's the demo and it didn't take many takes. This is the story that I have always heard, that makes sense and that I believe to be real.

 

PS: It’s time to ask for the release of the LD music video. It’s also true that it was filmed...

[jpatdeleon09]

1598775697[/url]' post='2390000']

that is what I said. The piano demo might have been recorded in one take, but it was never released. Walters versions were released, and she didn't record those in one take. This is what he said. So it is a lie, because they told us that what we hear is the demo, but that's not true. It's Walters version.

 

That’s why I ask you where did you see that he said that She didn’t recorded those in one take?

 

From what I understand from the link is that he didn’t believe with one take stories but again he was not there when they recorded Céline’s vocals

 

It’s true that what we hear is the demo (the one take version) in soundtrack and in walter’s radio edit version. The only difference from the radrio edit walter’s version is the instrumentals, addition of background vocals and the alternate ending of the song

 

so, he still used the one take version and just alter the ending.

 

When Céline recorded the song. Only the piano is the one guiding her. Then, James did his thing to make it orchestral for the soundtrack version while for the Radio edit or the album version, Walter redid the instrumentation of the song, adding the background vocals and altering the ending to make it shorter to make it more radio version.

 

Actually, he did 2 version. This and the one with movie dialogue

Edited August 30, 2020 at 08:57 AM by jpatdeleon09

[rfkavanagh]

In that oral history, Walter Afanasieff literally says Céline recorded vocals with him for the pop single:

 

I arranged and produced it. Céline did her vocals with me. She did one take on the demo that you hear in the movie. But whenever you’re talking about the big single — which is what’s on her album, the song that won the Grammy Award for record of the year — that’s what we’re ­talking about. I can’t agree to all of these other cockamamie, one-take stories.

 

You can think he's a liar, but I find his story more than credible. One take for the piano demo - the vocals from which were used in the movie - and new vocals recorded by him for the radio version. This allows Céline and co. to still trot out the one-take story without it technically being a lie (and notice she deflected when asked about the additional vocals recorded for the radio single rather than denying it). Whether Afanasieff used the new vocals or not is a different story - I haven't done a forensic analysis of vocals between the soundtrack and radio versions, but I know some of you are adamant that they're the same.

Edited August 30, 2020 at 09:31 AM by rfkavanagh

[jpatdeleon09]

1598779810[/url]' post='2390004']

In that oral history, Walter Afanasieff literally says Céline recorded vocals with him for the pop single:

 

I arranged and produced it. Céline did her vocals with me. She did one take on the demo that you hear in the movie. But whenever you're talking about the big single — which is what's on her album, the song that won the Grammy Award for record of the year — that's what we're ­talking about. I can't agree to all of these other cockamamie, one-take stories.

 

You can think he's a liar, but I find his story more than credible. One take for the piano demo - the vocals from which were used in the movie - and new vocals recorded by him for the radio version. This allows Céline and co. to still trot out the one-take story without it technically being a lie (and notice she deflected when asked about the additional vocals recorded for the radio single rather than denying it). Whether Afanasieff used the new vocals or not is a different story - I haven't done a forensic analysis of vocals between the soundtrack and radio versions, but I know some of you are adamant that they're the same.

 

I don't buy it both versions (vocals) were clearly the same the only thing that changes is the last "On" which he can easily edited it. What he did was he makes the instrumatals again for the radio version and adding background vocals.

 

He arranged and produced for his radio version.

 

Clearly, Céline don't like the song. Did the demo and they liked it and never resang the song again.

 

The last on can be easily edited. They have done that before and even on other songs. They are experts to this. They can just recycle vocals to make it like she resang it. You can easily noticed the ending for the radio version the vibrato messed up abit like it was altered but it may sounded perfect.. well that his job

 

reverb and echoes can hide those imperfections and good ears can noticed the changes

 

I believe to those people who were really there when they recorded the vocals. Not to the person who were asked to make a radio version and yeah he arranged it and produced it for his version.. but rerecording the vocals for the last on? LOL

Edited August 30, 2020 at 10:01 AM by jpatdeleon09

[couldawouldashoulda]

Wow.

 

The truth about the industry can often be shocking to people. Even those who are artists themselves but never

make the transition to “show business.”

 

I’m reminded of Whitney Houston recounting that she told her mother she wanted to be a singer and then, later in the conversation, said she wanted to be in show business. And her mother said to her, “Now wait a minute. Do you want to be a singer? Or do you want to be in show business? Because those are two completely different things.”

 

You can be an actor. But to be an actor in show business is different. Same with every art form.

[comingback]

Wow

Fact: There is no business like show business.

 

 

 

[ryba]

That’s why Celine always emphasised that she never wanted to be part of show business. She left that to Rene.

[PuraVida]

In that oral history, Walter Afanasieff literally says Céline recorded vocals with him for the pop single:

 

I arranged and produced it. Céline did her vocals with me. She did one take on the demo that you hear in the movie. But whenever you’re talking about the big single — which is what’s on her album, the song that won the Grammy Award for record of the year — that’s what we’re ­talking about. I can’t agree to all of these other cockamamie, one-take stories.

 

You can think he's a liar, but I find his story more than credible. One take for the piano demo - the vocals from which were used in the movie - and new vocals recorded by him for the radio version. This allows Céline and co. to still trot out the one-take story without it technically being a lie (and notice she deflected when asked about the additional vocals recorded for the radio single rather than denying it). Whether Afanasieff used the new vocals or not is a different story - I haven't done a forensic analysis of vocals between the soundtrack and radio versions, but I know some of you are adamant that they're the same.

 

There was a huge thread chain somewhere not too long back of people doing just that, comparing the versions. I think they were largely the same, if not 100%....minus the ending? Sorry can't remember exactly.

 

Both versions sound fantastic and we all know Celine is one of the few who can sound amazing without edits on her voice...

[Bruno Portugal]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEwpr69li3E/?igshid=166pl9iht52af

 

Vs

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2CnNtwB14x/?igshid=e9ltd02krnbl

 

The dress!

Valentino or Michael Costello?

 

Edited September 6, 2020 at 04:16 AM by Bruno Portugal

[Céline RO]

For some unknown reason, one year after release, I’m discovering a new love for “Lying Down”. I’ve always considered it a good song that I was proud to have on the album but I now think it could be one of the best. Definitely a great single choice that deserved an iconic music video. Hopefully they bring it back when the tour restarts. Edited September 14, 2020 at 03:00 PM by Céline RO

[Esty]

For some unknown reason, one year after release, I’m discovering a new love for “Lying Down”. I’ve always considered it a good song that I was proud to have on the album but I now think it could be one of the best. Definitely a great single choice that deserved an iconic music video. Hopefully they bring it back when the tour restarts.

 

Exactly. That is the point. It has everything a contemporary song needs.It's a cool song with a meaning. There's Sia, David Guetta and of course Celine.

[jpatdeleon09]

I guess someone from her team misplaced the SD Card. Reshoot?

[ryba]

Is there a way to officially contact the people in charge and actually receive the real answer as to why the video is still unreleased? There must be a way in this day and age

[Fanxiaoqiang]

Is there a way to officially contact the people in charge and actually receive the real answer as to why the video is still unreleased? There must be a way in this day and age

What can we do?

Celine's team always do nothing

[Davey84]

 

From Toni’s mouth...Celine had “Unbreak My Heart.”

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.etonline.com/music/166068_toni_braxton_reveals_she_almost_didn_t_sing_unbreak_my_heart?amp

From Diane's Twitter...

 

 

AAAAAAAH I WAS RIGHT!! I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY AND I REMEMBERED IT CORRECTLY!! :clap: I remember seeing an interview with Toni Braxton on Dutch tv and she told this story... fans started to claim Celine rejected Unbreak my heart, but I knew for sure it was Spanish Guitar! :D

 

I still doubt Celine actually rejected Unbreak my Heart... I think Toni just named the song, cos it's her biggest one.

 

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[MTJ]

I want her to release it big when she finally does, with the video and a single with a ton of remixes.

[Chantemoi]

I want her to release it big when she finally does, with the video and a single with a ton of remixes.

 

The new song? Cause I’d agree with you there.

 

“Spanish Guitar”, however, can stay in the vaults for eternity for all I care (along with “Love is Alive”!)

[MaiconSC]

In that oral history, Walter Afanasieff literally says Céline recorded vocals with him for the pop single:

 

I arranged and produced it. Céline did her vocals with me. She did one take on the demo that you hear in the movie. But whenever you’re talking about the big single — which is what’s on her album, the song that won the Grammy Award for record of the year — that’s what we’re ­talking about. I can’t agree to all of these other cockamamie, one-take stories.

 

You can think he's a liar, but I find his story more than credible. One take for the piano demo - the vocals from which were used in the movie - and new vocals recorded by him for the radio version. This allows Céline and co. to still trot out the one-take story without it technically being a lie (and notice she deflected when asked about the additional vocals recorded for the radio single rather than denying it). Whether Afanasieff used the new vocals or not is a different story - I haven't done a forensic analysis of vocals between the soundtrack and radio versions, but I know some of you are adamant that they're the same.

 

OMG I can't believe this MHWGO discussion is here again...

Walter is a big story teller...

Well, just watch this video.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWoBYXkC8g

[ryba]

It’s the exact same vocals. Just the last note in the „on and on“ is different. I don’t know why Walter claims that it’s a different version when it’s obviously not. Or maybe the vocals in the movie are actually NOT the initial demo, but Walters new vocals and they were just lying all the time.

 

Maybe she did record a demo in one take, but we never heard it, because they never used it, and instead used Walters new vocals for the movie and the album versions.

Edited October 22, 2020 at 06:22 PM by ryba

[jpatdeleon09]

1603390663[/url]' post='2392572']

It’s the exact same vocals. Just the last note in the „on and on“ is different. I don’t know why Walter claims that it’s a different version when it’s obviously not. Or maybe the vocals in the movie are actually NOT the initial demo, but Walters new vocals and they were just lying all the time.

 

Maybe she did record a demo in one take, but we never heard it, because they never used it, and instead used Walters new vocals for the movie and the album versions.

 

I thought James Horner did the Soundtrack or Movie version while Walter did the Radio/Album versions. I think what he did was change the instrumentals and the ending without redoing the vocals. - They can do this easily

Edited October 22, 2020 at 06:46 PM by jpatdeleon09

[Shamrock_1982]

Stay on topic!

 

Can one of the mods clean up this topic please.

[Céline RO]

Enough with this never ending MHWGO discussion! It just keeps coming back over and over again.

[jpatdeleon09]

Enough with this never ending MHWGO discussion! It just keeps coming back over and over again.

 

Don't worry it will go back next year hahaha

[jpatdeleon09]

8.4M

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AhjDwMXcR4

 

What's missing? The Music Video

Edited October 24, 2020 at 10:20 AM by jpatdeleon09

[ryba]

Enough with this never ending MHWGO discussion! It just keeps coming back over and over again.

so what’s actually the deal with that one take demo story? LOL

[CelinesDIVO5]

Enough with this never ending MHWGO discussion! It just keeps coming back over and over again.

 

It’s all coming back to us now.

[Bruno Portugal]

8.4M

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AhjDwMXcR4

 

What's missing? The Music Video

 

I find it incomprehensible that another Celine music video will not be released, especially this one that could be a success. The views of this audio are an example of this.

 

And do you remember Celine's excitement in an interview when she described the concept of the music video for Lying Down?

Why Sony Music, WHY???

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

I find it incomprehensible that another Celine music video will not be released, especially this one that could be a success. The views of this audio are an example of this.

 

And do you remember Celine's excitement in an interview when she described the concept of the music video for Lying Down?

Why Sony Music, WHY???

 

So, I think she’s letting her team (YouTube) decides what to release or not.

[manolo19]

I will ask the question again just in case someone remembers the twitter account of the guy who actually showed us the mars setup the very first time..he was called last minute to create it overnight and published two pictures of the set ... maybe we can ask what happened with it as he worked on the set . I would take any details and informations on the people involved in it ... because I lost hope with her team to give us something interesting during these shitty times

 

They could have given us captations of the show Celine throughout the years ... Jamaica concert that was soooo special , videos from her summer tour ... anything new . I mean let her enjoy her free time and enjoy family but c'mon the team can give us any quality stuff to hold onto .

Edited October 25, 2020 at 05:12 AM by manolo19

[smw]

I will ask the question again just in case someone remembers the twitter account of the guy who actually showed us the mars setup the very first time..he was called last minute to create it overnight and published two pictures of the set ... maybe we can ask what happened with it as he worked on the set . I would take any details and informations on the people involved in it ... because I lost hope with her team to give us something interesting during these shitty times

 

They could have given us captations of the show Celine throughout the years ... Jamaica concert that was soooo special , videos from her summer tour ... anything new . I mean let her enjoy her free time and enjoy family but c'mon the team can give us any quality stuff to hold onto .

 

Agreed.

Celine deserves to rest.

But her team has not done a good job lately.

We can all brainstorm a thousand ways they could have easily kept the fans happy / engaged with content via her social media.

 

Edited October 25, 2020 at 05:53 AM by smw