"Lying Down" - Official Topic

[ryba]

Apparently they had serious plans with LD. It was premiered on Carpool Karaoke and they shot a music video. I really wonder what happened and why they changed their plans. They always act in very mysterious and most often illogical ways.

[Bruno Portugal]

Apparently they had serious plans with LD. It was premiered on Carpool Karaoke and they shot a music video. I really wonder what happened and why they changed their plans. They always act in very mysterious and most often illogical ways.

 

Pure incompetence.

The music is by David Guetta and it even includes Sia’s background vocals. This song had/have everything to become a hit. Imagine Sia and David promoting it... A remix by David Guetta...

Is this getting any worse?

[Céline RO]

Lying down was received much better in the UK than in the U.S and Imperfections never really went down well at all in the UK but was still released and the video was released worldwide too, so still not a good enough reason in my eyes.

 

I honestly think Lying Down could have been the next TT in the UK with a video and a bit of promo. Still not too late in my eyes if they get off their arses and do what they are paid for.

 

She hasn't done one proper interview with anyone from home since March just to check in for a fun chat... it's just weird. Unless I missed the announcement that she's officially on a year off or something lol.

 

Exactly! It’s never too late. Due to their laziness or incompetence, pretty much no one knows the song so, if they started heavily promoting it, people would treat it like a brand new song that Céline just dropped. A music video would help with that though...

[mirage]

Lol remember when David Guetta told us he was working with her.

 

I was imagining a 'When Loves Takes Over' 'Flames' 'She Wolf' 'Titanium' kind of vibe.

 

They didn't even made a remix. Same goes for the Steve Aoki song.

So much potential, and so many collabs to make some decent remixes or duets but nada.

This team. I just can't.

[DionFanAlways]

Did they even release LD in the States? I must have blinked...

[beelee]

This song could probably go viral in a video for the US election. I can see the song being used from 2:34 with images and audio of Trump, but I don’t know how to make videos lol

 

 

[SuperLove4Celine]

I still have yet to understand the love for this song. Totally overproduced garbage. You can barely understand what she’s singing. Her enunciation is equal to someone singing with a banana down their throat.

[comingback]

I still have yet to understand the love for this song. Totally overproduced garbage. You can barely understand what she’s singing. Her enunciation is equal to someone singing with a banana down their throat.

 

Yes, the production and pronounciation on the album is so embarrassing. You can barely listen to it (The title track Courage is an exception).

Shame on the producer team and I hope they learned from that.

[ryba]

Yes, the pronunciation destroys most of it. Such a shame. She must understand that a studio recording is not the right place to cut loose, she can do that live on stage. I must always think of the pure and flawless ANDHC album where she literally sounds like an angel.

[ryba]

In my opinion, Lying Down is a good song, but it’s extremely heavy and dark, loaded with deep rather negative emotion. I didn’t expect that from Guetta. It’s not uplifting nor entertaining. Edited August 29, 2020 at 09:45 AM by ryba

[Xpresso]

 

She hasn't done one proper interview with anyone from home since March just to check in for a fun chat... it's just weird. Unless I missed the announcement that she's officially on a year off or something lol.

For your information, the whole world is on a year off.

And I think the LD video must have been horrible for them not to release it. They released Imperfections video which is not that great... so LD must be pretty bad!

[Shamrock_1982]

And some of us have had to carry on working either at home or at the office throughout this, and let’s to be brutally honest here Celine is lucky enough to not have worked an 8 hour day or done a night shift in her life, so let’s not get to carried away here when it comes to working

[Xpresso]

And some of us have had to carry on working either at home or at the office throughout this, and let’s to be brutally honest here Celine is lucky enough to not have worked an 8 hour day or done a night shift in her life, so let’s not get to carried away here when it comes to working

I think she has worked way more than 8 hours a day! When she was in Quebec to launch the CWT, she did full days of interviews until very late. Even some of the journalists were more tired than she was.

And she's never done a night shift? Are you serious? She often recorded songs in the middle of the night. And shooting great music videos in the 90's. Those take much longer than 8 hours. She didn't get where she is now by working 8 hours a day. Now she is relaxing more but to build her career, she made a lot of sacrifices and worked extremely hard. Touring is no small feat either. Your 8-hour shift pales in comparison...

Edited August 29, 2020 at 10:57 AM by Xpresso

[Shamrock_1982]

Mine are 12hr, so we will leave it there

[Xpresso]

As if Celine has never worked 12 hours in a row. If you think you are special, she is super special!

[Shamrock_1982]

My point is a 10 min zoom call with a tv show wouldn’t kill her lol.

[Xpresso]

My point is a 10 min zoom call with a tv show wouldn’t kill her lol.

Since you work so much, she will save you 10 min in your day. Look at it positively.

[maki_Dion-er]

As if Celine has never worked 12 hours in a row. If you think you are special, she is super special!

 

"Céline never said, “How many takes?” There was a point I was shooting her for so long, she was standing there singing and she fell asleep standing up!"

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/7800213/celine-dion-my-heart-will-go-on-oral-history-interview

 

How many hours of work did she have for her to freaking fall asleep while standing up. The woman with the energy & stamina of 10 people. I doubt it was only a result of shooting this video.

 

Even if she doesn't work 12 hour days every day she puts in hours of training just for her voice. It was in an article about CWT that she does like 2 hours of vocal training, then soundcheck and rehearsals, all adding up to like 5 hours. Then whatever else she deals with that we don't know about.

 

People that have to work such long hours have it rough. I know personally. But Celine worked her butt off to get where she is, and obviously she has a very privileged life.

Still doesn't mean she has to do things just cause we want her to.

 

 

About the LD video, even if it were bad I'm still very curious to see it. But I've given up on ever getting it.

Edited August 29, 2020 at 06:42 PM by maki_Dion-er

[ryba]

Céline at one point sang the lead vocal on the single from An American Tail: Fievel Goes West, which Horner wrote. She sounded ­exquisite, but she wasn’t a big star at the time, and they decided to go back to Linda Ronstadt, who had sung “Somewhere Out There” from An American Tail.

 

 

 

really??? Can we hear this song?

[ryba]

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"Céline never said, "How many takes?" There was a point I was shooting her for so long, she was standing there singing and she fell asleep standing up!"

 

https://www.billboar...story-interview

 

How many hours of work did she have for her to freaking fall asleep while standing up. The woman with the energy & stamina of 10 people. I doubt it was only a result of shooting this video.

 

Even if she doesn't work 12 hour days every day she puts in hours of training just for her voice. It was in an article about CWT that she does like 2 hours of vocal training, then soundcheck and rehearsals, all adding up to like 5 hours. Then whatever else she deals with that we don't know about.

 

People that have to work such long hours have it rough. I know personally. But Celine worked her butt off to get where she is, and obviously she has a very privileged life.

Still doesn't mean she has to do things just cause we want her to.

 

 

About the LD video, even if it were bad I'm still very curious to see it. But I've given up on ever getting it.

by the way, thanks for sharing this article. I’ve read it for the first time! And it’s so apparent that the „MHWGO was recorded in one take“ story was a big lie. WA said that he did multiple takes with her for the final version, and the vocals for the version for the album are the exact same as the vocals for the version of the soundtrack, except for the long note at the end. Only the orchestration differs slightly. She only recorded the piano demo in one take, but that was never released! They lied and created a story to make it big (I don’t blame them. It’s Show business... But now we know that we were fooled). Best Celine answer to a controversial question: „I don’t remember“. A big LOL to that! Edited August 29, 2020 at 08:13 PM by ryba

[couldawouldashoulda]

Yeah, I’ve said before that everything we say in television interviews are stories created by marketing teams and PR executives to “sell” the movie/TV show/book/song/album whatever. This entire business is smoke and mirrors. Just like magicians use. It’s all fake. It’s all for show. It always had been. Always will be. And part of the “Celine brand” or “Celine story” is “my life is an open book and my fans know everything about me.” And we all KNOW that’s not true by now.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Yeah, I've said before that everything we say in television interviews are stories created by marketing teams and PR executives to "sell" the movie/TV show/book/song/album whatever. This entire business is smoke and mirrors. Just like magicians use. It's all fake. It's all for show. It always had been. Always will be. And part of the "Celine brand" or "Celine story" is "my life is an open book and my fans know everything about me." And we all KNOW that's not true by now.

 

I don't view it at all like magicians. Any person with half a brain knows a person can't actually be sawed in two, and then put back together. So, we all know there is some trickery involved. However, it is incredibly deceitful and immoral for a singer to knowingly make up crap during an interview just to make it better. There is no comparison. So, stop trying to skew things to try to validate your industry's deceitful practices.

Edited August 29, 2020 at 10:23 PM by SuperLove4Celine

[jpatdeleon09]

by the way, thanks for sharing this article. I’ve read it for the first time! And it’s so apparent that the „MHWGO was recorded in one take“ story was a big lie. WA said that he did multiple takes with her for the final version, and the vocals for the version for the album are the exact same as the vocals for the version of the soundtrack, except for the long note at the end. Only the orchestration differs slightly. She only recorded the piano demo in one take, but that was never released! They lied and created a story to make it big (I don’t blame them. It’s Show business... But now we know that we were fooled). Best Celine answer to a controversial question: „I don’t remember“. A big LOL to that!

 

Sorry but where did you see about “recorded in one take is a lie”?

 

Walter was not there during the recording of Céline’s vocals.

 

The one he was talking about is his version (radio edit) which he redid the instrumentals and the vocals at the end but she didn’t recorded it with walter “again”.

 

So, the one he used was the “one take” version with the piano guiding her

 

He just said that he doesn’t believe in one take stories but again he was not there during the recording of Céline’s vocals

 

The only people who were there

 

Céline

Rene

Horner

Polly

Mottola

Edited August 29, 2020 at 11:07 PM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

They should release Céline’s version of “Dreams to Dream” for An American Tail 2 Soundtrack

[couldawouldashoulda]

I don't view it at all like magicians. Any person with half a brain knows a person can't actually be sawed in two, and then put back together. So, we all know there is some trickery involved. However, it is incredibly deceitful and immoral for a singer to knowingly make up crap during an interview just to make it better. There is no comparison. So, stop trying to skew things to try to validate your industry's deceitful practices.

 

Oh, I’m not saying it’s not a lie. We just see it more as “acting,” which is lying. Which is our profession - well mine. We go on stage and act. We go in an interview and act. The interviewer is also acting - they’re acting as if their questions are improvised or that they’re coming up with them on the spot when in reality, every question was vetted by the artists PR/Marketing people to make sure the artist agrees to discuss the topic. Or they’re topics the studio/record company/book publisher wants the interviewer to ask to help sell the book/album/movie a certain way. It’s all pretend. It’s make-believe. That’s what we do.

 

It’s like when people discovered that James Corden wasn’t actually driving the car during his Carpool Karaoke segments. It was, like...seriously? You people actually believe he’s allowed to have Celine Dion or Adele or Barbra Stresiand in his car and not pay attention to the driving because he’s too busy singing and bantering with the singer. That would never happen! The car is attached to another car which is driving and pulling them along behind them. It’s all made up - it’s a show. It’s not real.

[couldawouldashoulda]

To put it another way: it’s called show business, meaning it’s a business. Business is about selling stuff, selling stuff requires creating a brand and then selling that brand. To sell a brand, you have to come up with a storyline and everyone plays that storyline through in order to sell the product. Talk shows are essentially just hour long commercials selling you things.

[jpatdeleon09]

[CelinesDIVO5]

Wow.

[ryba]

 

 

Sorry but where did you see about “recorded in one take is a lie”?

 

Walter was not there during the recording of Céline’s vocals.

 

The one he was talking about is his version (radio edit) which he redid the instrumentals and the vocals at the end but she didn’t recorded it with walter “again”.

 

So, the one he used was the “one take” version with the piano guiding her

 

He just said that he doesn’t believe in one take stories but again he was not there during the recording of Céline’s vocals

 

The only people who were there

 

Céline

Rene

Horner

Polly

Mottola

that is what I said. The piano demo might have been recorded in one take, but it was never released. Walters versions were released, and she didn’t record those in one take. This is what he said. So it is a lie, because they told us that what we hear is the demo, but that’s not true. It’s Walters version. Edited August 30, 2020 at 08:23 AM by ryba

[rfkavanagh]

Are people seriously that naive to take everything they hear in an interview at face value? There's a reason there are publicists and PR representatives involved in literally EVERYTHING promotional that goes into any music/movie/TV/sports release. Next you'll all start saying you believe Céline truly meant it every album release when she said "this is the album of my life" - it's all puffery, and it's par for the course. It's not deceit; it's bluster. And it works.

 

You hardly expect Céline to say "well, I know this song isn't my best, but it's not bad and we needed another track to fill out the album and it works well enough" or "I didn't really get this song but my team told me it was really strong and that it belonged on the album", do you?! Céline's probably been a little more honest in some cases than most since she's always been a bit more open about Rene guiding her to what to do and her not really making those decisions in the past. I hope no one truly believes that "I'm the boss now" means that she truly makes all the decisions about her music and career.

 

Do you really think casts all get along famously and love working together on every project? That new TV shows are the best thing since X? That musicians have really put more of their heart and soul into their latest release than anything previous? Céline and her team (primarily Rene in the past) are masters at spin and imagecraft and always have been - that's a part of why she's been so successful. And before anyone jumps to attack, this is NOT to say that her music hasn't been great or that it's all an illusion; she just knows to play the game as well as anyone else.