Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[Dancing_Queen]

 

 

Do you follow the news? Putin said he will attack other countries. So we don't know how the situation will be in spring/summer. I hope for the best and that the NATO can stop him. We will see..

 

Putin has been in charge for 20 years. As much as I despise him, he is not a mad man. He won't risk total annihilation by attacking a Western country. Instead, he will keep making these ventures in (what he considers to be) his own backyard. Like he did with Crimea, South Ossetia, Abchazia etc. whenever his popularity dropped.

I will say he's definitely getting bolder though.

 

[scielle]

In regards to the conversation, re: Putin and what's happening. I was planning a trip to London for Mighty Hoopla festival to see Anastacia and Steps. However, with what's happening in the Ukraine right now, I'm reconsidering and will be waiting to see what happens. No one knows what the situation will be like in Europe come the end of May.

 

Putin has said he will attack any country that tries to interfere. He boasting about his nuclear weapons that can evade both US and UK defense systems. And the US and UK are putting heavy sanctions in place against Russia, Putin himself, and Putin's friends/allies and their families. Freezing their bank accounts, etc.

 

Europe may be a very frightening place in a few months time. The tour may get cancelled just because touring Europe this summer could be considered dangerous and Celine has her 3 children to think about.

 

I was barely able to sleep last night and could hardly focus on any work today at all. I can't see anything continuing "as usual". Putin pretty much threatened nuclear war, and it took him little over 12 hours to seize Chernobyl. Perhaps I'm being alarmist, but my earliest memory as a toddler (in Poland) was having to drink purple iodine shots after that disaster and I had several friends die of childhood cancers shortly thereafter. So yeah, I'm pretty freaked out. Hoping for the best, but it's a sad, scary time.

Edited February 24, 2022 at 11:21 PM by scielle

[Shamrock_1982]

Trust me don’t worry, this will all be over in the next 2/3 months if not before. Edited February 24, 2022 at 11:26 PM by Shamrock_1982

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

Putin has been in charge for 20 years. As much as I despise him, he is not a mad man. He won't risk total annihilation by attacking a Western country. Instead, he will keep making these ventures in (what he considers to be) his own backyard. Like he did with Crimea, South Ossetia, Abchazia etc. whenever his popularity dropped.

I will say he's definitely getting bolder though.

 

Actually, the NYtimes has Putin quoted as saying that if the West tries to interfere in his occupation of the Ukraine or tries to take him down, he has the nuclear capability to leave American cities a pile of radioactive dust. If the west thinks they can take him down, he’s said he’ll take the west down with him.

 

What’s happening right now has the potential - just the potential- to be World War 3. Again, I’m reminded of all the, “Oh, Covid will be gone by July” comments. The human race…never learns.

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

I was barely able to sleep last night and could hardly focus on any work today at all. I can't see anything continuing "as usual". Putin pretty much threatened nuclear war, and it took him little over 12 hours to seize Chernobyl. Perhaps I'm being alarmist, but my earliest memory as a toddler (in Poland) was having to drink purple iodine shots after that disaster and I had several friends die of childhood cancers shortly thereafter. So yeah, I'm pretty freaked out. Hoping for the best, but it's a sad, scary time.

 

Yeah, him seizing Chernobyl is frightening AF. The NYTimes reports that if that nuclear reactor that’s still there were to break down it would spread radioactive dust across Ukraine, Belarus, and most of Eastern Europe. I guess Western Europe can relax/not care about their fellow human beings. Sounds about right.

[Dancing_Queen]

 

 

Actually, the NYtimes has Putin quoted as saying that if the West tries to interfere in his occupation of the Ukraine or tries to take him down, he has the nuclear capability to leave American cities a pile of radioactive dust. If the west thinks they can take him down, he’s said he’ll take the west down with him.

 

What’s happening right now has the potential - just the potential- to be World War 3. Again, I’m reminded of all the, “Oh, Covid will be gone by July” comments. The human race…never learns.

 

There were people being alarmist about Zika, Anthrax...etc. If you're alarmist 100% of the time, you'll probably be right once or twice in ypur life.

 

Anyway, Putin wants to make Russia great again and apparently the only thing he could think of was creating a new Cold War. Which is scary, I agree. But Putin is not irrational. Risking his own country's destruction would qualify as highly irrational.

I'd be more scared if Trump were still at the helm...

 

That said, my thoughts have been with the people of Ukraine and anyone living in an ex-Soviet country. I genuinely fear for them and hope NATO can find a way to a peaceful solution.

[nuts2you]

not if this reliable this is but its something

Celine Dion soon back in France? Michel Drucker gives news and reveals the condition "non-negotiable" ! - Then24

[Celinelife]

God whatever happens, I just hope no World War occur. We all have read what all happened in the second world war, it's just so scary. And people making memes about it just shows how disrespectful we are towards the people who lost their lives, also to the people who lost their lives in first two wars.

[couldawouldashoulda]

God whatever happens, I just hope no World War occur. We all have read what all happened in the second world war, it's just so scary. And people making memes about it just shows how disrespectful we are towards the people who lost their lives, also to the people who lost their lives in first two wars.

 

I think everyone with common sense and/or are reading about the details/analysis/government intelligence on Putin and the Ukraine feel the same way.

[Celinelife]

 

 

I think everyone with common sense and/or are reading about the details/analysis/government intelligence on Putin and the Ukraine feel the same way.

I am writing it so that everyone knows the situation..people are making fun of it everywhere you go..how can someone be optimistic about a world war?

[jpatdeleon09]

Is Céline going to Russia? I didn’t understand. There’s mentioning of Putin…

 

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Oh the war… posted in Courage World Tour

Edited February 25, 2022 at 03:03 AM by jpatdeleon09

[couldawouldashoulda]

Is Céline going to Russia? I didn’t understand. There’s mentioning of Putin…

 

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Oh the war… posted in Courage World Tour

 

 

Exactly. Just like Covid, the war in Europe (what’s been called the most severe war moment since WW II) could affect the CWT’s summer European leg.

Edited February 25, 2022 at 03:10 AM by couldawouldashoulda

[scielle]

Anyway, Putin wants to make Russia great again and apparently the only thing he could think of was creating a new Cold War. Which is scary, I agree. But Putin is not irrational.

 

Well, it’s definitely not “cold”.

And I don’t know how anyone can consider Putin a rational actor after that delusional speech and after what happened over the past 24 hours.

 

But anyway, let us hope this all ends soon with minimal bloodshed and we can go back to worrying about such pedestrian things as some concert tour.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Putin has now invaded Ukraine’s capital of Kyiv and has vowed to topple Ukraine’s government. This won’t be over anytime soon - other than it’ll be over because Russia has invaded and controls Ukraine. Then what’s next? Belarus? Estonia? Latvia? Lithuania? Moldova?

 

If the rest of the world let’s him get away with it, other dictators can decide to do similar things. If the rest of the world get involved, Putin has declared he’s willing to use his nukes and go full on WW III.

 

But yeah…this will all be over in a few weeks, just like Covid, and Celine will be back on tour which is, of course, the most important thing ever.

[Celinelife]

Can I just say that it's amazing how someone can care about some concert during such times? Come on, you guys, it's not the biggest problem! We still have time left for the concert, if nothing she will do her residency at Vegas.

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

Can I just say that it's amazing how someone can care about some concert during such times? Come on, you guys, it's not the biggest problem! We still have time left for the concert, if nothing she will do her residency at Vegas.

 

Ummm may I ask how are you so sure that Celine will do another Vegas residency?

 

Because the one she was supposed to start last year was CANCELLED, BUT NOT RESCHEDULED! & since there are no rescheduled dates (as in the past, whenever Celine has postponed dates, especially as she has had to do during the past 2 years thanks to Covid, the dates are usually rescheduled, but this time she did not do that for the new Vegas shows!) & since there has been NO MENTIONING of the new Vegas residency by Team Celine (or by anybody else except us fans on this forum lol...) So Im just wondering how you are so sure the new Vegas shows are happening, thats all...

[ryba]

There is no way Celine comes to Europe this year with that is going on right now with Putin. People don’t feel like attending concerts right now. They are scared for their lives and the future of Europe

[ryba]

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Well said. I think people need to calm down a little here. Yes the news is unsettling but it isn't going to stop me living my life, especially as everything has been on hold for the last 2 years anyway. We are a long way from events especially in western Europe being cancelled at this point.

I can’t believe what I’m reading. You obviously have no idea what is going on and how dangerous this situation is. Don’t compare Covid with a potential third WW. Ukraine is being attacked right now Edited February 25, 2022 at 07:01 PM by ryba

[thatstheteacherinmehbaby]

 

 

Well said. I think people need to calm down a little here. Yes the news is unsettling but it isn't going to stop me living my life, especially as everything has been on hold for the last 2 years anyway. We are a long way from events especially in western Europe being cancelled at this point.

 

EXACTLY! I agree with you 100%!

 

Now on one hand, I do understand people being a little bit nervous & on the cautious side & all (especially after being in this darn Pandemic for 2 years now!)

 

But on the other hand, I do think that being OVERCAUTIOUS & living in complete fear all the time IS NOT GOOD OR IS PRACTICAL! IT IS NOT HEALTHY for everybody to live in constant fear of everything as it IS NOT going to stop all the bad things in this world from happening, or NOT STOPPING to keep bad people from doing bad things that are out of our control (such as murder, rape, robberies, starting wars, etc...)

 

Just like what most of the world has finally learned from dealing with the whole Covid Pandemic situation for the past 2 years now, is that having to be on CONSTANT LOCKDOWNS DID NOT STOP THE COVID VIRUS FROM SPREADING! In fact, what has happened in alot of countries, having lockdowns had also created OTHER PROBLEMS, such as the economy & other issues such as mental health issues, depression, etc... due to the effects of lockdowns...

 

& at least here in the United States, we have also been dealing with not only the issues of mental health, depression, & a screw up economy, we are also now dealing with STAFFING & SUPPLY-CHAIN SHORTAGES everywhere in this country, (well I dont know how are things in Europe, Asia, Canada, etc, but this is going on in the U.S. & has been since the past 2 years thanks to the Pandemic, & it does not seem to be getting any better!)

 

So my point is, with both the Pandemic & with this Russia & Ukraine situation, we all JUST CAN NOT LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR & GO INTO HIDING 24/7 & STOP LIVING LIFE! & no this does NOT have to be with just Celines concerts! I am talking life IN GENERAL! People still have to go out & work, kids have to go to school, etc... & if we just stopped all of that, stopped the whole world from living, then all we are doing is causing more problems again (such as the ramifications from the Pandemic that we are all dealing with today, 2 years later!)

 

 

[RosieBarron]

 

 

EXACTLY! I agree with you 100%!

 

Now on one hand, I do understand people being a little bit nervous & on the cautious side & all (especially after being in this darn Pandemic for 2 years now!)

 

But on the other hand, I do think that being OVERCAUTIOUS & living in complete fear all the time IS NOT GOOD OR IS PRACTICAL! IT IS NOT HEALTHY for everybody to live in constant fear of everything as it IS NOT going to stop all the bad things in this world from happening, or NOT STOPPING to keep bad people from doing bad things that are out of our control (such as murder, rape, robberies, starting wars, etc...)

 

Just like what most of the world has finally learned from dealing with the whole Covid Pandemic situation for the past 2 years now, is that having to be on CONSTANT LOCKDOWNS DID NOT STOP THE COVID VIRUS FROM SPREADING! In fact, what has happened in alot of countries, having lockdowns had also created OTHER PROBLEMS, such as the economy & other issues such as mental health issues, depression, etc... due to the effects of lockdowns...

 

& at least here in the United States, we have also been dealing with not only the issues of mental health, depression, & a screw up economy, we are also now dealing with STAFFING & SUPPLY-CHAIN SHORTAGES everywhere in this country, (well I dont know how are things in Europe, Asia, Canada, etc, but this is going on in the U.S. & has been since the past 2 years thanks to the Pandemic, & it does not seem to be getting any better!)

 

So my point is, with both the Pandemic & with this Russia & Ukraine situation, we all JUST CAN NOT LIVE IN CONSTANT FEAR & GO INTO HIDING 24/7 & STOP LIVING LIFE! & no this does NOT have to be with just Celines concerts! I am talking life IN GENERAL! People still have to go out & work, kids have to go to school, etc... & if we just stopped all of that, stopped the whole world from living, then all we are doing is causing more problems again (such as the ramifications from the Pandemic that we are all dealing with today, 2 years later!)

 

Exactly. In the UK there is a well known phrase from WW2 propaganda 'keep calm and carry on.' It doesn't mean there isn't an issue but we defy it and live as normal a life as possible. The worst thing people can do is panic.

[RosieBarron]

I can’t believe what I’m reading. You obviously have no idea what is going on and how dangerous this situation is. Don’t compare Covid with a potential third WW. Ukraine is being attacked right now

 

I am very aware of what is going on and think it is as terrible as everyone else does. It will effect all of us especially in the long run. We don't know what will happen with this situation anymore than we did with covid 2 years ago. But again, Putin will not stop me living my life and I will not live in fear of him.

[couldawouldashoulda]

No one is talking about not living their lives. Not going to work, not sending kids to school, not going to the grocery store, etc. We’re suggesting that a single mother doing a European concert tour might not be the wisest decision this summer.

[Alex_Incognito]

Well she is used to a special life style, so if she want's to keep it up, she has to work.

 

I am certain that some of you have doomsday shelters. But hell, everyone on here has to be a little nutty since we waste moments of our precious lives talking about a singer.

[RosieBarron]

No one is talking about not living their lives. Not going to work, not sending kids to school, not going to the grocery store, etc. We’re suggesting that a single mother doing a European concert tour might not be the wisest decision this summer.

 

Or maybe it is exactly what we need. Celine has never shied away from standing up for what it right and defying a situation. Just think of her attending the 9/11 concert when RC was a baby. I honestly don't think she will cancel the tour off the back of this. It would certainly be uncharacteristic of her to do so.

 

[couldawouldashoulda]

 

 

Or maybe it is exactly what we need. Celine has never shied away from standing up for what it right and defying a situation. Just think of her attending the 9/11 concert when RC was a baby. I honestly don't think she will cancel the tour off the back of this. It would certainly be uncharacteristic of her to do so.

 

Interesting choice of words. “Maybe it is exactly what we need.” Not what CELINE needs. But what “we” - which I assume means the stans- need.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Well she is used to a special life style, so if she want's to keep it up, she has to work.

 

I am certain that some of you have doomsday shelters. But hell, everyone on here has to be a little nutty since we waste moments of our precious lives talking about a singer.

 

 

She does have to work. Which makes me think she’ll settle back down in the safely removed Las Vegas and scrap the tour.

[brendanm999]

Or maybe it is exactly what we need. Celine has never shied away from standing up for what it right and defying a situation. Just think of her attending the 9/11 concert when RC was a baby. I honestly don't think she will cancel the tour off the back of this. It would certainly be uncharacteristic of her to do so.

Agreed. Unless there's a legitimate security concern for concert venues in several countries on the European leg, I don't see anything being canceled due to this situation. The 3 shows that I can see being most affected by this are Lodz, Krakow, and Bucharest. The Bucharest show isn't until June 2023 anyway. Also, to add to your point, I believe she was the only resident performer in Vegas that didn't cancel her show 2 days after the shooting. She also went ahead with the 2017 summer tour in Europe only ~3 weeks after the Manchester Arena attack, and several other terrorist attacks in the region.

[Nmj]

I hope she cancels the entire tour. It’s moment is beyond over, and there’s too much uncertainty right now. It would be wiser to focus and regroup to plan a Vegas show that is groundbreaking in some way. And then after that machine is fine tuned she could tour in those areas after awhile. Does anyone care about the CWT anymore? The same tour that is named after a album that she only incudes 2 songs from? I’m PERSONALLY over that whole era. It reminds me of covid and a rough 3 years…time for a clean slate.

[RosieBarron]

 

 

Interesting choice of words. “Maybe it is exactly what we need.” Not what CELINE needs. But what “we” - which I assume means the stans- need.

 

By 'we' I mean the world in general. The world needs good people who stand up against evil. To me Celine is a bold, courageous person who has done that throughout her career and has an unparalleled ability to unite people of all walks of life and nationality.

 

[ordinary fan]

I hope she cancels the entire tour. It’s moment is beyond over, and there’s too much uncertainty right now. It would be wiser to focus and regroup to plan a Vegas show that is groundbreaking in some way. And then after that machine is fine tuned she could tour in those areas after awhile. Does anyone care about the CWT anymore? The same tour that is named after a album that she only incudes 2 songs from? I’m PERSONALLY over that whole era. It reminds me of covid and a rough 3 years…time for a clean slate.

I care about it because I wanna see it and sure thousand of other fans do too