Collaboration with NUNUNU: Célinununu

[Shaun]

Could it be that Celine is just being paid by Nununu to promote their brand? Much like how she was paid to promote Chrysler? There could be nothing more deep and meaningful to it than that. Some people are waaaaaayyy overthinking things.

[comingback]

Could it be that Celine is just being paid by Nununu to promote their brand? Much like how she was paid to promote Chrysler? There could be nothing more deep and meaningful to it than that. Some people are waaaaaayyy overthinking things.

 

That's what I don't understand. Why didn't she make a research on the brand and the marketing of the clothes?

Edited November 19, 2018 at 06:53 PM by comingback

[Dancing_Queen]

I decided to check my Tumblr (hadn't logged on in ages) and to my surprise, I immediately found a post about Célinununu with over 50.000 notes, nearly unanimously positive both about the message and the goth baby designs 😊. Many new "conversions", too. Very encouraging to see. 😊

[Xpresso]

Read the Vox article that was posted above and you'll see that Céline has been a fan of Nununu for about 5 years because she loves what it stands for. And the clothes shown in that article are much nicer in my opinion that what we have seen. The yellow and black outfits look very cool.

 

And New Order can also mean New Way of Thinking. Everyone can interpret it differently and that's also fine.

[ruimarques]

Read the Vox article that was posted above and you'll see that Céline has been a fan of Nununu for about 5 years because she loves what it stands for. And the clothes shown in that article are much nicer in my opinion that what we have seen. The yellow and black outfits look very cool.

 

And New Order can also mean New Way of Thinking. Everyone can interpret it differently and that's also fine.

 

Couldn't agree more <3

[Critiaslux]

I decided to check my Tumblr (hadn't logged on in ages) and to my surprise, I immediately found a post about Célinununu with over 50.000 notes, nearly unanimously positive both about the message and the goth baby designs . Many new "conversions", too. Very encouraging to see.

 

:wub:

[ordinary fan]

Couldn't agree more <3

yes

[zuv]

Hmm 🤔 There was a discussion about this, but it’s in French:/

 

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/19/celinununu-vives-reactions-sur-la-nouvelle-collection-a-les-novices

 

[browseceline]

Read the Vox article that was posted above and you'll see that Céline has been a fan of Nununu for about 5 years because she loves what it stands for. And the clothes shown in that article are much nicer in my opinion that what we have seen. The yellow and black outfits look very cool.

 

And New Order can also mean New Way of Thinking. Everyone can interpret it differently and that's also fine.

Yes..read this https://www.vox.com/...line-celinununu

 

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[nuts2you]

your link doesn't work , must have taken it down

[Matias]

Do people not notice that two israeli, jewish female designers NOTED for using Jewish/israeli historical references especially the nazi era.... isn't surprising to use New Order.

 

 

Or the fact that the term / group "New Order" also appears in the Old Testament and in the Torah..... just me ? Okay

 

They are just symbols...ZARA was the one who did that...

Stop trying to find the "but" in this project...

[ruimarques]

 

 

They are just symbols...ZARA was the one who did that...

Stop trying to find the "but" in this project...

 

Humanity can’t move forward if we’ll keep living for the past! Let’s learn from past but not living for it!

#moveon

[Loup_garou]

Do people not notice that two israeli, jewish female designers NOTED for using Jewish/israeli historical references especially the nazi era.... isn't surprising to use New Order.

 

 

Or the fact that the term / group "New Order" also appears in the Old Testament and in the Torah..... just me ? Okay

 

 

 

Or the fact that the group New Order reign the charts during the 80's with such hits as Temptation, True Faith

[Taking Chances]

So I haven't really kept up with everything that was going on. I didn't even bother to look at the design before today. Although I feel like I understand the positive message it's trying to send out, I think the design is mostly ugly and the message kind of gets lost when most of the clothes are goth-ish and kind of an unfriendly design. It kind of defeats the purpose in a way.

 

I have no problem with people not wanting to force anything on their kids, but most likely the kids will find their individuality at some point regardless of if their parent wanted them to wear a blue, pink or black sweater when they were 4 years old. The problem isn't dressing a boy in a blue sweater, but assigning certain colors to certain things. Just like goth clothes are usually black. In a perfect world we would remove the taboo's over wearing certain colors instead of removing the colors itself.

 

Honestly, creating gender neutral clothing is pretty silly. It's almost the same as putting everyone in a uniform to make them all alike, except the intent is good. There is a reason people stopped doing that and started to wear what they wanted to. The colors we mostly associate with men and women are chosen by those genders for those genders over time. It's not a coincidence that girls happen to like pink more than boys. (There's exceptions to every rule) It's the society we've created. So to try and change it like that is all in all a good thought at heart, but not really realistic.

Edited November 20, 2018 at 01:31 AM by Taking Chances

[maki_Dion-er]

The tumblr post mentioned, it's got 55,000 notes and the comments are really funny.

http://mysharona1987.tumblr.com/post/180142690484

 

Lol, for those that don't know what a heartless is...

https://goo.gl/images/jzWpRz

It's a character from a kids video game called Kingdome Hearts (I used to love that game).

[Brandon]

The problem is the adults deciding on two main colours only and associating them with genders, thus limiting the options spectrum and suggesting what a little child should wear.

 

Colours should not be gender associated.

 

And this impacts our adult life as well, we are afraid/used to choosing certain colours for clothing.

 

For example, just last week one of my coworkers from Far East was shocked to see a man wearing a red sweater, since back home for her men do not.

I happen to find a red and black combo quite lovely for a man/woman top.

 

We should all have the choice of the entire colour range and designs of clothing and toys.

 

Adults assume what children want to wear, do, play with and they freak out if it's something they never thought of: a boy baking or wearing makeup, a girl crafting etc.

 

To name just one, the problem of a girl wearing pinky stuff and playing with princesses only will generally make her wish she were one and imagine the rest of the fairytale around her. Plenty of YouTube videos out there of little girls complaining about their shopping section...

 

And do not get me started on the psychology of video games, based on primary instincts and needs, nor on kids books, which are mostly traumatizing to explain to a child...

 

Hope you get my overall point, which is we limit ourselves, by creating such social norms, the colour gender association being just one example.

You know what's funny, you wanna-be SJW's that think you are making a change in anything just because you "think" it's going against the status quo. You sit there and try to find silly causes to get behind because your life is too vapid and void of any meaning.

Tell me how this makes sense, you object to mere colors on a child which by the way the child could care less about, and in the meantime impose your own drab colors on said child. Yes, that's it. You changed the world. Congrats!

[Brandon]

I think it's not possible to push the boundaries and fight against the stereotypes by introducing things that everybody will like. That simply doesn't work that way. To achieve some goals in society you need to think very progressively and sometimes even shock. I think it's some sort of "reseting" the old conventional values that are in our heads. And I believe this is very well thought out.

 

When I saw Céline commercial, my first thought was that those babies looked like they were part of the set for "The Addams Family". This kind of reaction is normal and OK for everyone of us. What I don't think it's OK is not taking some time for reflection and trying to understand before we condemn. Does this sound familiar?

Actually I do like those black&white clothes with letters or stars. But it's a question of taste. Nothing wrong with black, nothing wrong with white.

 

I'm glad Céline stepped out from her comfort zone and took some societal responsibility.

I think we're well past the "norm" that blue is for boy and pink is for girls. Everybody agrees that equality is good and freedom to choose is good. And you think by putting stars on kids' clothes and using black and white colors is taking "societal responsibility." ?? What the hell are you talking about? What the hell does that even mean?? And never mind the fact that you are imposing your colors on the kids instead of giving them the freedom to choose. Oh and let's not forget that it's just a natural and organic fact that kids WILL always gravitate towards brighter, vibrant colors. Edited November 20, 2018 at 08:29 AM by Brandon

[Brandon]

That's what I don't understand. Why didn't she make a research on the brand and the marketing of the clothes?

I think she probably saw some outfits that she liked personally for herself, and tied that into the fact that she gave her kids the freedom to choose and play around with any outfits from her closet, saw how happy they were as any child would be regardless of gender, to play around in Mom's closet, then was peer-pressured due to the political climate to come out with some "cool" statement, saw what was in her lap and ran with it, not really delving into what that brand really represents or even understanding the nuances of their symbolism, saw she could make some decent cash with it while making herself still relevant in show biz. That about sums it up. Edited November 20, 2018 at 08:43 AM by Brandon

[Brandon]

Can I just get the point, where is this phrase offensive???

Were you living under a rock for the past 20 years? I'm asking you this question. You don't know the negative connotions of the phrase "New Order"??

Humanity can't move forward if we'll keep living for the past! Let's learn from past but not living for it!

#moveon

Exactly. You say you don't want to re-live the past so then why on earth are you dragging past phrases and ideas (new Order) into the future!

[isurrender]

So Brandon and all the other dramaqueen, when Céline's burning is planned?

[ruimarques]

Were you living under a rock for the past 20 years? I'm asking you this question. You don't know the negative connotions of the phrase "New Order"??

Exactly. You say you don't want to re-live the past so then why on earth are you dragging past phrases and ideas (new Order) into the future!

 

Don’t worry mate ☺️

I won’t explain it for someone who wouldn’t understand it neither... you’d need to have an open mind and open heart.

Stick with the past frustration, this will keep you going;)

[Daysleeper]

I think we're well past the "norm" that blue is for boy and pink is for girls. Everybody agrees that equality is good and freedom to choose is good. And you think by putting stars on kids' clothes and using black and white colors is taking "societal responsibility." ??

 

No, not directly. This clothing line obviously tries to break the norms on more different levels, not only girl/boy-pink/blue issue. It simply introduces other possibilities and choices for children clothing other than bright and pastel shades of colours that people are used to. The same goes for the symbols and design. Those stars and letters appear more neutral than teddy bears and butterflies. At least according to NUNUNU. I am not defending them nor I say their clothing line is the best possible way to fight this social issue. There are many ways. I just try to understand their way of thinking and the approach to this social issue. As I said, it's a question of taste.

 

What the hell are you talking about? What the hell does that even mean?? And never mind the fact that you are imposing your colors on the kids instead of giving them the freedom to choose. Oh and let's not forget that it's just a natural and organic fact that kids WILL always gravitate towards brighter, vibrant colors.

 

What is that so "organic and natural" that makes kids choose brighter and vibrant colours?

[Nmj]

So Brandon and all the other dramaqueen, when Céline's burning is planned?

 

Just because some of us don’t like this dark clothing line, doesn’t make any less of a fan. I’m sick of the people who want to shame us for not worshipping her every move.

[CSCfan]

Just because some of us don’t like this dark clothing line, doesn’t make any less of a fan. I’m sick of the people who want to shame us for not worshipping her every move.

 

So you don't worship Satan?

 

 

[Nmj]

 

 

So you don't worship Satan?

 

 

 

Only god. Not satan, not Celine.

 

[Xpresso]

You missed your calling Nmj.

[Nmj]

You missed your calling Nmj.

 

Hilarious! To get on point... I’ll never understand some people and how they think every move Celine has done in career is the best thing since sliced bread. I love Celine, she is without a doubt my all time favorite singer/entertainer/artist but I’m not be one of those fans who kiss the ground which she walks.

[CSCfan]

Hilarious! To get on point... I’ll never understand some people and how they think every move Celine has done in career is the best thing since sliced bread. I love Celine, she is without a doubt my all time favorite singer/entertainer/artist but I’m not be one of those fans who kiss the ground which she walks.

 

Well there's 50 shades of loving/liking Céline. I applaud her for this project and if it's something she believes in, by all means do it.

That said... I don't like the clothes either (love the ones with the stars though) and I don't have to buy them either as I don't have kids (I think). But I posted my opinion once and that's that... I don't have to repeat it all the time or to persuade others to agree with me (or to keep bashing Céline for it). And I think that's also something to consider (not personally to you, but to fans here in general).

[Nmj]

 

 

Well there's 50 shades of loving/liking Céline. I applaud her for this project and if it's something she believes in, by all means do it.

That said... I don't like the clothes either (love the ones with the stars though) and I don't have to buy them either as I don't have kids (I think). But I posted my opinion once and that's that... I don't have to repeat it all the time or to persuade others to agree with me (or to keep bashing Céline for it). And I think that's also something to consider (not personally to you, but to fans here in general).

 

I totally understand what you’re saying. I hate to be a broken record sometimes but sometimes it’s hard when someone is questioning your post and intent and then feel like you have to make another to justify what they tried to say and on and on and on again.

 

 

[Flymetothemoon]

You know what's funny, you wanna-be SJW's that think you are making a change in anything just because you "think" it's going against the status quo. You sit there and try to find silly causes to get behind because your life is too vapid and void of any meaning.

Tell me how this makes sense, you object to mere colors on a child which by the way the child could care less about, and in the meantime impose your own drab colors on said child. Yes, that's it. You changed the world. Congrats!

 

You know what’s not funny, your inability to give an objective response, with logical arguments, assuming personal facts about one’s life and implicitly insulting one, plus a cheap attempt of sarcasm. Also, implying that Celine fights for a silly cause; time will tell...

Tell me how this makes sense; better not, don’t bother, it will still be a diaper answer, with google search of extra vocabulary for a vain plus of image.

 

You know what’s funny, that someone who grew up in communism has to explain to someone from US freedom of choice and preconceived ideas.

Something must have gone terribly wrong in the later, capitalism must have made plenty of people selfish, mean and ignorant.

 

And I don’t sit anywhere, I keep traveling the world (100+ countries, plus more US states than you ever visited), to broaden my cultural flexibility and fight whatever norms I was thought.

 

Grow up, travel, read a book, watch a couple of documentaries and then try to play smart on forums.

 

Here’s to bright thinking.

Edited November 20, 2018 at 07:54 PM by Flymetothemoon