Collaboration with NUNUNU: Célinununu

[Nmj]

Do people not notice that two israeli, jewish female designers NOTED for using Jewish/israeli historical references especially the nazi era.... isn’t surprising to use New Order.

 

 

Or the fact that the term / group “New Order” also appears in the Old Testament and in the Torah..... just me ? Okay

 

Yes. Just you.

 

Why even take a chance with that phrase when they could avoid it?

Edited November 18, 2018 at 10:50 PM by Nmj

[Brandon]

So then every child should be a bunny, teddy bear or a little mouse for Halloween then? Get a grip. You people are thinking way too much into this.

Your argument or 'lack there of' holds no water. I don't even know what to reply to this weak sentence.

skulls is the symbol of no matter who you are, boys or girls, black, white, yellow. Inside we are no difference. It can be creepy or not is depends on how we see it.

hahahaha. nice stretch.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Thanks Matthew, I will take all the seats, and mind my own business, as you have twice stated, I still stick with what I have said. I will not speak about this again.

 

Sharon

 

It’s fine to have your own opinion on the clothing line. I’m not denouncing that. I just find it to be poor taste to judge one’s parenting, especially if the kids are happy, healthy and well rounded; just because they allow their kids to wear a skull on their T-shirt.

[GoldenLeaf]

They're only Illuminati symbols if you actually believe in the Illuminati. I think it's a bunch of horse shít and conspiracy crap.

Ditto!

 

The Illuminati doesn't even exist, it's a fable, a folktale perpetuated by conspiracy theorists to explain greed and war… nothing more lol.

Edited November 19, 2018 at 12:40 AM by GoldenLeaf

[CelinesDIVO5]

Your argument or 'lack there of' holds no water. I don't even know what to reply to this weak sentence.

hahahaha. nice stretch.

 

It’s actually very comparable. Should children not dress as demons or zombies because they’re in a dark, scary category? Just as you’re saying a child shouldn’t wear a skull face on their shirt? It falls on the same line. But I’m glad you were able to not say anything. That alone speaks miles.

[smw]

I forget how conservative some of us Celine fans are sometimes.

[scielle]

Maybe all this was just Celine's elaborate ploy to stop Trump from repeatedly playing The Prayer at his rallies.

 

Anyway, for those who missed it earlier in the week, here's a nice discussion about Celinununu from CTV News (video in link) -

 

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[maki_Dion-er]

Maybe all this was just Celine's elaborate ploy to stop Trump from repeatedly playing The Prayer at his rallies.

 

Anyway, for those who missed it earlier in the week, here's a nice discussion about Celinununu from CTV News (video in link) -

 

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oh god, look at that picture, is she calling on all her sheeple?

I'm sorry

 

Is that guy calling her Celine Diall? haha. He's also struggling with the pronunciation of Celinununu, I can relate it took me a while to get it.

I like what they all said.

[DionFanAlways]

Maybe all this was just Celine's elaborate ploy to stop Trump from repeatedly playing The Prayer at his rallies.

 

Anyway, for those who missed it earlier in the week, here's a nice discussion about Celinununu from CTV News (video in link) -

 

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Anything to stop the orange marshmallow!

[DionFanAlways]

oh god, look at that picture, is she calling on all her sheeple?

I'm sorry

Me: Yes my priestess, I will follow. I pledge to do your bidding....... :innocent:

 

Celine: Buy my stuff.

Edited November 19, 2018 at 02:14 AM by DionFanAlways

[Flymetothemoon]

you say Wearing less/certain colours + skulls/similar designs will not turn a child gay/satanist etc. so then why is wearing blue or pink a problem?

If I remember clearly, the person didn't condone video-game violence either.

 

The problem is the adults deciding on two main colours only and associating them with genders, thus limiting the options spectrum and suggesting what a little child should wear.

 

Colours should not be gender associated.

 

And this impacts our adult life as well, we are afraid/used to choosing certain colours for clothing.

 

For example, just last week one of my coworkers from Far East was shocked to see a man wearing a red sweater, since back home for her men do not.

I happen to find a red and black combo quite lovely for a man/woman top.

 

We should all have the choice of the entire colour range and designs of clothing and toys.

 

Adults assume what children want to wear, do, play with and they freak out if it’s something they never thought of: a boy baking or wearing makeup, a girl crafting etc.

 

To name just one, the problem of a girl wearing pinky stuff and playing with princesses only will generally make her wish she were one and imagine the rest of the fairytale around her. Plenty of YouTube videos out there of little girls complaining about their shopping section...

 

And do not get me started on the psychology of video games, based on primary instincts and needs, nor on kids books, which are mostly traumatizing to explain to a child...

 

Hope you get my overall point, which is we limit ourselves, by creating such social norms, the colour gender association being just one example.

Edited November 19, 2018 at 05:58 AM by Flymetothemoon

[Flymetothemoon]

 

 

My theory on why she has always had such affinity for the LGBTQ community is that she knows very well what it's like to love somebody that society tells you you're not supposed to love.

 

 

True, she definitely knows what is like to not be understood.

 

Combine that with her friends, other personal experiences, plus her EQ and you get such important flexibility, care, understanding and acceptance...

 

[Flymetothemoon]

Do people not notice that two israeli, jewish female designers NOTED for using Jewish/israeli historical references especially the nazi era.... isn’t surprising to use New Order.

 

 

Or the fact that the term / group “New Order” also appears in the Old Testament and in the Torah..... just me ? Okay

 

For a non-English speaker, “new order” has a different meaning; think of it as a bad translation if you wish.

 

And regarding the symbols, they just look like prints; most peeps here had to do internet search for their meaning.

 

So on an initial view, to most of us, this clothing is just atypical kids wear, with a strong message and an “art-sy” marketing...

[browseceline]

Céline Dion has a new gender-neutral clothing line for kids https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/16/18099303/celine-dion-gender-neutral-clothing-line-celinununu

 

 

about why new order and nununu, good article

 

 

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Edited November 19, 2018 at 09:01 AM by browseceline

[Dion2000]

 

 

Yes. Just you.

 

Why even take a chance with that phrase when they could avoid it?

 

Because theyre noted for making references TO anti semetic history through their art as Jewish women

[ruimarques]

Nobody can’t say that this photo isn’t creepy looking in addition to again with the “New Order”

 

All these kids look lifeless.

 

 

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Post like this above can really destroy my day and hope for a free minded humanity... people are so obsessed by the stereotype which we have been given through the history... and it was just based on economic tactics of what is right

- to wear

- what colour is for male

- what colour is for female

- you have to be pretty and smiley to be happy

- you have to get married to start family

- you have to have wedding in church otherwise you won’t get blessing

- cross is related to dead / religion (c’mon its just two f****** crossing lines)

 

- and I could continue with so many dogmas and so many forced opinions.

 

Here is an example...

 

If my last name would be Hitler (quite common in Austria) and I’d love to give my son name after my grandad my son’s name would be Adolf Hitler. I bet that just because of perception of forced opinion he would be bullied at school, he would have troubles to get a job and so on and so on... even that he would be possibly a very clever happy and beautiful kid.

 

Summarising:

I’m proud that Celine starts to do something meaningful to break the unnecessary rules set by some people long time ago who had exactly the same colour of sh*t (literally crap 💩) as we all do.

[CSCfan]

Summarising:

I'm proud that Celine starts to do something meaningful to break the unnecessary rules set by some people long time ago who had exactly the same colour of sh*t (literally crap ) as we all do.

[isurrender]

Silly question : At the end of the ad , she says "I'm calling my agent".

 

Do you think they mean it ironically as it hints at the fact she hasn't one or at least her famous agent is not there anymore?

[CSCfan]

Silly question : At the end of the ad , she says "I'm calling my agent".

 

Do you think they mean it ironically as it hints at the fact she hasn't one or at least her famous agent is not there anymore?

 

Her famous agent?

 

She always had and still has one..

[isurrender]

I meant Rene.

[CSCfan]

I meant Rene.

 

Agent and Manager isn't the same..

 

Anyway, that last comment of her was just a throwaway line... we shouldn't look into things that aren't there.. lol

Edited November 19, 2018 at 02:02 PM by CSCfan

[Nmj]

 

 

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Post like this above can really destroy my day and hope for a free minded humanity... people are so obsessed by the stereotype which we have been given through the history... and it was just based on economic tactics of what is right

- to wear

- what colour is for male

- what colour is for female

- you have to be pretty and smiley to be happy

- you have to get married to start family

- you have to have wedding in church otherwise you won’t get blessing

- cross is related to dead / religion (c’mon its just two f****** crossing lines)

 

- and I could continue with so many dogmas and so many forced opinions.

 

Here is an example...

 

If my last name would be Hitler (quite common in Austria) and I’d love to give my son name after my grandad my son’s name would be Adolf Hitler. I bet that just because of perception of forced opinion he would be bullied at school, he would have troubles to get a job and so on and so on... even that he would be possibly a very clever happy and beautiful kid.

 

Summarising:

I’m proud that Celine starts to do something meaningful to break the unnecessary rules set by some people long time ago who had exactly the same colour of sh*t (literally crap 💩) as we all do.

 

What in the world are you talking about?

Your post is a rant about random stuff.... I never said I don’t like the IDEA of gender equality. I support and think that’s an amazing idea; once again, my problem lies with the company and their view of “art”.

 

Then you start going on and on about church , and Hitler.... consider me baffled.

[Daysleeper]

I think it's not possible to push the boundaries and fight against the stereotypes by introducing things that everybody will like. That simply doesn't work that way. To achieve some goals in society you need to think very progressively and sometimes even shock. I think it's some sort of "reseting" the old conventional values that are in our heads. And I believe this is very well thought out.

 

When I saw Céline commercial, my first thought was that those babies looked like they were part of the set for "The Addams Family". This kind of reaction is normal and OK for everyone of us. What I don't think it's OK is not taking some time for reflection and trying to understand before we condemn. Does this sound familiar?

Actually I do like those black&white clothes with letters or stars. But it's a question of taste. Nothing wrong with black, nothing wrong with white.

 

I'm glad Céline stepped out from her comfort zone and took some societal responsibility.

[ruimarques]

What in the world are you talking about?

Your post is a rant about random stuff.... I never said I don’t like the IDEA of gender equality. I support and think that’s an amazing idea; once again, my problem lies with the company and their view of “art”.

 

Then you start going on and on about church , and Hitler.... consider me baffled.

 

you see .. here you are ... Art is very subjective and as Celine said herself that she is not trying to say that this is right or wrong ... it's her way, as she obviously identify her taste with the taste of the company NUNUNU. "NEW ORDER" is an absolutely amazing and encouraging slogan and I love it .. it's strong short meaningful message and people who have positive mind will see positive meaning behind this ... People who are stick to the past and have closed mind and are influenced by others will be moaning and see unnecessary negative outcome of it.

[Nmj]

 

 

you see .. here you are ... Art is very subjective and as Celine said herself that she is not trying to say that this is right or wrong ... it's her way, as she obviously identify her taste with the taste of the company NUNUNU. "NEW ORDER" is an absolutely amazing and encouraging slogan and I love it .. it's strong short meaningful message and people who have positive mind will see positive meaning behind this ... People who are stick to the past and have closed mind and are influenced by others will be moaning and see unnecessary negative outcome of it.

 

Don’t sit here and tell me that phrase isn’t offensive, it is point blank.

 

[ordinary fan]

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Post like this above can really destroy my day and hope for a free minded humanity... people are so obsessed by the stereotype which we have been given through the history... and it was just based on economic tactics of what is right

- to wear

- what colour is for male

- what colour is for female

- you have to be pretty and smiley to be happy

- you have to get married to start family

- you have to have wedding in church otherwise you won't get blessing

- cross is related to dead / religion (c'mon its just two f****** crossing lines)

 

- and I could continue with so many dogmas and so many forced opinions.

 

Here is an example...

 

If my last name would be Hitler (quite common in Austria) and I'd love to give my son name after my grandad my son's name would be Adolf Hitler. I bet that just because of perception of forced opinion he would be bullied at school, he would have troubles to get a job and so on and so on... even that he would be possibly a very clever happy and beautiful kid.

 

Summarising:

I'm proud that Celine starts to do something meaningful to break the unnecessary rules set by some people long time ago who had exactly the same colour of sh*t (literally crap 💩) as we all do.

exactly my opinion!

[ruimarques]

Don’t sit here and tell me that phrase isn’t offensive, it is point blank.

 

 

Can I just get the point, where is this phrase offensive???

[comingback]

Can I just get the point, where is this phrase offensive???

 

Are you kidding me? "New Order" on a baby shirt is not offensive? Please read this topic and comments.

Edited November 19, 2018 at 06:16 PM by comingback

[Nmj]

 

 

 

Can I just get the point, where is this phrase offensive???

 

Look it up.

[ruimarques]

Look it up.

Are you kidding me? "New Order" on a baby shirt is not offensive? Please read this topic and comments.

 

guys .. you are so stick to what does it meant before looong time ago ... c'mon .. let past be a past and lets hope for brighter future ...

 

I do not care what NEW ORDER meant before ... I see it as something new what have to come to bring NEW ORDER to erase the OLD ORDER old stacked mined which are soooo tight up to past and negativity ....

 

History is here to teach us to be better and learn from it, not to keep us lanced to negative past.