comingback Posted July 10, 2021 at 05:04 PM Posted July 10, 2021 at 05:04 PM (edited) Well this is interesting. Seems they’re trying to make the 40th anniversary a thing. Honestly, didn’t expect that. Javascript is not enabled OR refresh the page to viewClick here to view the Tweet They read our forum! They are planning sth. 😀 #40yearsofCelineDionTC please upload a current concert (2017/2019 London) and a docu!!! Edited July 10, 2021 at 05:09 PM by comingback 1
scielle Posted July 10, 2021 at 06:25 PM Posted July 10, 2021 at 06:25 PM Nah. DON’T stick to the original tune.
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 10, 2021 at 06:42 PM Posted July 10, 2021 at 06:42 PM (edited) If you want to sound it so messy. Why not “ J'ai compris tous les mots, j'ai bien compris, merci.. fee fee feeeEeeEEE eee yeah” Original is better + audience can sing along - that would be more fun Edited July 10, 2021 at 06:46 PM by jpatdeleon09
Chantemoi Posted July 10, 2021 at 08:16 PM Posted July 10, 2021 at 08:16 PM If you want to sound it so messy. Why not “ J'ai compris tous les mots, j'ai bien compris, merci.. fee fee feeeEeeEEE eee yeah” Original is better + audience can sing along - that would be more fun So playback track? :-) 1
rfkavanagh Posted July 11, 2021 at 12:17 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 12:17 AM The whole point of a live performance - at least for me - is to hear some interesting new treatments of tracks. Otherwise, I might as well just listen to the albums (and let's be honest, with playback performances that's pretty much what you're doing). I don't expect every song to be revolutionized, but some variation and different styles applied to a few tracks helps keep things interesting and also show how adaptable the songs are and how interpretively talented the performer is. Céline changing up PQTME even as little as she did is one of the first truly interesting things she's done with an established song in YEARS. 6
PuraVida Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:37 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:37 AM I love her changing up her classics, but the problem is they need to change up the arrangement and instrumentation. They used pretty much the same backing track while Celine altered her voice and runs on the song. They should really give her something to play with and work off of. Off the top of my head, I think the song they've done that the most with is "I'm Alive", and it usually paid off very well. 1
scielle Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:38 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:38 AM I expect every single live performance to sound different than the last. Otherwise what’s the point.Unfortunately Céline isn’t as great at it as other artists, but she’s moving in the right direction. She certainly has great improvisational abilities, but she shied away from it for years. Glad to see she is slowly starting to embrace it. 2
rfkavanagh Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:48 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:48 AM I love her changing up her classics, but the problem is they need to change up the arrangement and instrumentation. They used pretty much the same backing track while Celine altered her voice and runs on the song. They should really give her something to play with and work off of. Agreed - I just listened to the PQTME video above, and honestly, I thought I remembered her changing it up considerably more than that. That video is basically just a few different vocal choices, not a reimagining of the song! Didn't she do something more interesting with it at some performances?
rfkavanagh Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:51 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:51 AM I expect every single live performance to sound different than the last. Otherwise what's the point.Unfortunately Céline isn't as great at it as other artists, but she's moving in the right direction. She certainly has great improvisational abilities, but she shied away from it for years. Glad to see she is slowly starting to embrace it. On the other extreme, the last thing I'd want is for Céline to start channeling latter-day live Whitney or Mariah, inserting 527 different syllables into every one-syllable word and completely losing the core and emotion of the song. But adding a little personality and spontaneity to time-worn songs would be very welcome!
PuraVida Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:53 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 01:53 AM (edited) Agreed - I just listened to the PQTME video above, and honestly, I thought I remembered her changing it up considerably more than that. That video is basically just a few different vocal choices, not a reimagining of the song! Didn't she do something more interesting with it at some performances? Dunno about that tour, but you might be thinking of the acoustic version she did during one of her summer tours...the same one where she sang Love Of My Live. 2017? I always get all the summer tours mixed up. Edit: That's why I loved the Berkley College of Music tribute to Celine.....they really freshened up her songs! Edited July 11, 2021 at 01:54 AM by PuraVida 1
rfkavanagh Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:10 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:10 AM Dunno about that tour, but you might be thinking of the acoustic version she did during one of her summer tours...the same one where she sang Love Of My Live. 2017? I always get all the summer tours mixed up. Edit: That's why I loved the Berkley College of Music tribute to Celine.....they really freshened up her songs! Apparently I'm incapable of paying attention today - when I listened to the performance above, I had it playing in the background in another window and didn't even realize which tour it was from. The performance I was thinking of was from the Courage Tour. Granted, she's totally off on all the high notes here (was this when she was ill?), but the acoustic treatment and different instrumentation throughout is most welcome. I don't mean that this is the ideal of the kind of thing I'm talking about, but it's at least representative of simple changes that help to freshen up older songs. And the audience certainly didn't have any problem singing along with this version. https://youtu.be/a98HFnPINxc
PuraVida Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:20 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:20 AM Apparently I'm incapable of paying attention today - when I listened to the performance above, I had it playing in the background in another window and didn't even realize which tour it was from. The performance I was thinking of was from the Courage Tour. Granted, she's totally off on all the high notes here (was this when she was ill?), but the acoustic treatment and different instrumentation throughout is most welcome. I don't mean that this is the ideal of the kind of thing I'm talking about, but it's at least representative of simple changes that help to freshen up older songs. And the audience certainly didn't have any problem singing along with this version. https://youtu.be/a98HFnPINxc I hadn't heard her Courage version yet! That's mixing it up for sure! I think I'd like that performance better if she just did it acapella. So cute how everyone sings along!
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:47 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:47 AM So playback track? :-) Yeah like repeating words that makes the song messy
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:50 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 02:50 AM (edited) No problem with changing the tune or the way of singing as long as it sounds great but it’s not. So, if you can’t deliver a nice tune just stick with the original. Sometimes it sounds off key, sometimes it’s on key. Sometimes it’s kinda irritating to listen to. https://youtu.be/VzbMc9VV8No https://youtu.be/_nC2O4qMrkY even if she sang the song same as in the studio. It’s still sounds different hearing it live. She’s been sticking in the original version ever since and no problems at all. People still says she sings better than the studio version. Maybe the style of the way she sings PQTME on Star Academy 2009. That would sound amazing than the current way of singing of that song especially at the climax part keeps on adding “oohh” like someone is stepping her foot every sentence ”m'attirer me toucher NO NO no no nor nor nor” Edited July 11, 2021 at 03:05 AM by jpatdeleon09
PuraVida Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:00 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:00 AM Here's a fun example of American Idol contestants changing up The Reason a long time ago. They did a piano version! 1
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:03 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:03 AM Like this. (The last song) see and it sounds much better. Than the added moaning and nor nor nor lol
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:46 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 03:46 AM Here's a fun example of American Idol contestants changing up The Reason a long time ago. They did a piano version! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bzJM-BEqk&ab_channel=chantemoi there’s no changes happened here it’s only a piano version. Same the way how Céline sang it. The changes that were talking about is changing the tune and adding unnecessary words when singing. Changing the tempo when singing for some parts. which sounds like a trial and error when singing that’s why sometimes it sounds off key and sometimes it’s good
Celinelife Posted July 11, 2021 at 04:01 AM Posted July 11, 2021 at 04:01 AM So playback track? :-)Since 2016 the most beautiful performance of this song was in Courage World Tour.
PuraVida Posted July 11, 2021 at 05:14 PM Posted July 11, 2021 at 05:14 PM there’s no changes happened here it’s only a piano version. Same the way how Céline sang it. The changes that were talking about is changing the tune and adding unnecessary words when singing. Changing the tempo when singing for some parts. which sounds like a trial and error when singing that’s why sometimes it sounds off key and sometimes it’s good A piano version is a change, and I think many fans would welcome piano or acoustic versions of her tracks and would count that as mixing it up. And the tempo was different in their version.
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 11, 2021 at 06:20 PM Posted July 11, 2021 at 06:20 PM (edited) A piano version is a change, and I think many fans would welcome piano or acoustic versions of her tracks and would count that as mixing it up. And the tempo was different in their version. That's the only change (the piano thing) but the way they sang it. It's the original. No changes in tune or something. No added adlibs when singing, etc. The perfect example is the current way of singing of Céline to PQTME. Edited July 11, 2021 at 06:21 PM by jpatdeleon09
PuraVida Posted July 12, 2021 at 05:44 AM Posted July 12, 2021 at 05:44 AM That's the only change (the piano thing) but the way they sang it. It's the original. No changes in tune or something. No added adlibs when singing, etc. The perfect example is the current way of singing of Céline to PQTME. A change is a change. That video was just that, a change with piano and a slightly different tempo. It's not the ideal example, but I had already cited the acoustic PQTME above. And I wouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If there's anything I've learned as a Celine fan, it's take what you can get. If you read above, I already said they should ideally change up "arrangement and instrumentation", so hopefully that is what they indeed do.
rfkavanagh Posted July 12, 2021 at 06:44 AM Posted July 12, 2021 at 06:44 AM there’s no changes happened here it’s only a piano version. Same the way how Céline sang it. The changes that were talking about is changing the tune and adding unnecessary words when singing. Changing the tempo when singing for some parts. which sounds like a trial and error when singing that’s why sometimes it sounds off key and sometimes it’s good I feel like you're adding arbitrary criteria to what makes a song treatment different! For me at least, I'm just looking for changes that help separate the song from being a straight-ahead replication of the album version, or the same live performance version of a track that Céline's been doing for decades. That could be the musical accompaniment; it could be the vocal performance; it could be variations in melody - just something to keep the songs fresh without radically changing them into a completely different track. An acoustic concert with Céline would be amazing! 1
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 12, 2021 at 07:52 AM Posted July 12, 2021 at 07:52 AM (edited) 1626068658[/url]' post='2407025']A change is a change. That video was just that, a change with piano and a slightly different tempo. It's not the ideal example, but I had already cited the acoustic PQTME above. And I wouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If there's anything I've learned as a Celine fan, it's take what you can get. If you read above, I already said they should ideally change up "arrangement and instrumentation", so hopefully that is what they indeed do. Change for me is different from yours. For me, Change is changing the way she sings the song like it sounds different form the original. Not because of the change of instrumentals. Like again the current PQTME. The one you showed where they only use the piano but the way they sang it is the same tune same way Céline sang on studio. to make it simple if you asked me to - Patti. She’s changing the way of singing that song very different from the originalPqte - same as patti. Céline is changing the way she sings the song different form the original Edited July 12, 2021 at 08:01 AM by jpatdeleon09
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 12, 2021 at 07:59 AM Posted July 12, 2021 at 07:59 AM I feel like you're adding arbitrary criteria to what makes a song treatment different! For me at least, I'm just looking for changes that help separate the song from being a straight-ahead replication of the album version, or the same live performance version of a track that Céline's been doing for decades. That could be the musical accompaniment; it could be the vocal performance; it could be variations in melody - just something to keep the songs fresh without radically changing them into a completely different track. An acoustic concert with Céline would be amazing! As what i have said before, as long these changes fits where it doesn’t sound off key, etc. like she’s doing with PQTME (not the acoustic) and the last humming of MHWGO. For me, it just ruins the song. It ruins the build up where you will almost cry because of the great singing then it will ruin it because the unnecessary changes/notes/added unnecessary words. I just think not all songs fits to sing it differently.
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 12, 2021 at 08:05 AM Posted July 12, 2021 at 08:05 AM (edited) I think the great example for a different live arrangement for celine is the “The Show Must Go On”, it has a different intro and ending. But the tune is still like the original. Another great example of Different tune and arrangements is Mariah’s “Somewhere Over The Rainbow” performance, Different Arrangement and Tune like it’s a new song. Very different from the original tune. So, piano clip the only change there is the instrumentals but the way they sang it is close to the original Edited July 12, 2021 at 08:07 AM by jpatdeleon09
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ryba Posted July 13, 2021 at 10:44 AM Posted July 13, 2021 at 10:44 AM Maybe that will encourage her to make more music more regularily
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