sarit_celine Posted July 20, 2019 at 07:28 PM Posted July 20, 2019 at 07:28 PM https://www.ici-lond...rt-de-hyde-park Nice article 1 Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
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maki_Dion-er Posted July 21, 2019 at 07:03 PM Posted July 21, 2019 at 07:03 PM Beautiful!That was my favorite dress, one of my top 3 she's ever worn for MHWGO. 2 Quote
sarit_celine Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:12 AM Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:12 AM I've listend again to "Pour que tu m'aimes encore", this song tend to stuck in my head. There are some who say she didn't sing it with feelingsAre they deaf or something? She sure sings it differently, otherwise she gets bored with it.Imo, She gave it a lot of feelings, superb singing, she as well gave there some incredible high notes. There is no other female singer, these days, over 51 years old, that has that range of voice.She was and will always be in her own league. I hope she will do at least 2 French songs on this Tour. 2 Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
jepoi Posted July 22, 2019 at 04:31 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 04:31 PM Are you deaf? 😂 I've listend again to "Pour que tu m'aimes encore", this song tend to stuck in my head. There are some who say she didn't sing it with feelingsAre they deaf or something? She sure sings it differently, otherwise she gets bored with it.Imo, She gave it a lot of feelings, superb singing, she as well gave there some incredible high notes. There is no other female singer, these days, over 51 years old, that has that range of voice.She was and will always be in her own league. I hope she will do at least 2 French songs on this Tour. 1 Quote
ivo Posted July 22, 2019 at 05:10 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 05:10 PM I can’t listen to this ‘new’ version of PQTME. It’s awful. I think you love it or you hate it... 4 Quote Amsterdam 18-06-1997 - Amsterdam 14-06-1999 - London 10-07-1999 - Antwerpen 14-05-2008 - Antwerpen 21-11-2013 - Las Vegas 10-10-2015 - Paris 09-07-2016 - Arnhem 23-06-2017
Javito Posted July 22, 2019 at 08:47 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 08:47 PM (edited) I can't listen to this 'new' version of PQTME. It's awful. I think you love it or you hate it... Absolutely. To me, she is ruining the beautiful magic of the original song and has reached a new level of cringe-making in her tired performing routine. She drags the words all the time. She changes the melody as if she doesn't know what else to do with the song in order to finish it in an acceptable way. To do that, it's better she gives the song a rest for good and picks another one. She has plenty of French gems out there to choose from and she could give her biggest French song a break before it's unrecognisable to listen to Edited July 22, 2019 at 08:53 PM by Javito 3 Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
sarit_celine Posted July 22, 2019 at 09:17 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 09:17 PM She has her state of mind while being on the stage, mood etc. She sang that song for 2 Milion times, it just obvious she will want to change it. I find the improvisations she does, are not easy to do and interesting, show me another female singer that can do that.She added the runs on some songs, I like it less, but it's nice she is trying to present the songs in other ways. People will want to hear her same 5 poweful hits, no matter what and she knows that,even if she is sick as hell to sing them over and over again, on that matter I feel sorry for her:) Anyway, she is the only singer I can stand when it comes to singing in French:) Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
symon Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:07 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:07 PM I do believe there is something to see regarding when she left the church at Rene's ceremony. This song might be too hard to sing now, so she has created a new atmosphere, a new interpretation. She sang it with so much emotion in 2016 but it was obvious it was very hard. In 2017 she began to interpret it differently as in 2018. There is no emotion in these two versions To my mind. She offers the song for us but the normal version is now linked to René s passing i believe. 1 Quote
AdrienneM Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:13 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:13 PM I do believe there is something to see regarding when she left the church at Rene's ceremony. This song might be too hard to sing now, so she has created a new atmosphere, a new interpretation. She sang it with so much emotion in 2016 but it was obvious it was very hard. In 2017 she began to interpret it differently as in 2018. There is no emotion in these two versions To my mind. She offers the song for us but the normal version is now linked to René s passing i believe. In 2017, she only sang it acoustic at french shows, it was still completely normal at english versions and the acoustic version was very emotional to me 1 Quote
sarit_celine Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:17 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 10:17 PM I do believe there is something to see regarding when she left the church at Rene's ceremony. This song might be too hard to sing now, so she has created a new atmosphere, a new interpretation. She sang it with so much emotion in 2016 but it was obvious it was very hard. In 2017 she began to interpret it differently as in 2018. There is no emotion in these two versions To my mind. She offers the song for us but the normal version is now linked to René s passing i believe. All the songs she sing will have to do something with Rene, and might be with some other matters in her life. I can feel it she thinks about him when she sings. Her eyes show all. Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
jepoi Posted July 22, 2019 at 11:27 PM Posted July 22, 2019 at 11:27 PM I dont feel sorry for her. What a nice problem to have. She gets paid a lot at the end of the day. She has her state of mind while being on the stage, mood etc. She sang that song for 2 Milion times, it just obvious she will want to change it. I find the improvisations she does, are not easy to do and interesting, show me another female singer that can do that.She added the runs on some songs, I like it less, but it's nice she is trying to present the songs in other ways. People will want to hear her same 5 poweful hits, no matter what and she knows that,even if she is sick as hell to sing them over and over again, on that matter I feel sorry for her:) Anyway, she is the only singer I can stand when it comes to singing in French:) 1 Quote
firstofone Posted July 23, 2019 at 05:54 AM Posted July 23, 2019 at 05:54 AM Hey. Does anyone got a BST Celine lanyard in double that I can buy ? I missed out on it and would like to have one. Through the app of BST I didn’t manage to order one after the show. Thanks for helping if you can. Please PM me. Peace ✌🏻 Quote "For me, Celine Dion is not the greatest singer in the world just because of her music, I tend to like her equally for the unparalleled amount of bridges she spans as one singer between people all over the globe." - DVDL
symon Posted July 23, 2019 at 08:48 AM Posted July 23, 2019 at 08:48 AM (edited) In 2017, she only sang it acoustic at french shows, it was still completely normal at english versions and the acoustic version was very emotional to me I saw celine in Nice in 2017 and the acoustic version was sung without emotion. The emotion came from celine leaving the scene not from the song itself. Just my feeling Edited July 23, 2019 at 08:49 AM by symon Quote
Kerol Posted July 23, 2019 at 10:06 AM Posted July 23, 2019 at 10:06 AM I can't listen to this 'new' version of PQTME. It's awful. I think you love it or you hate it... I like the new version of the song. After René's funeral there was a period I didn't want to listen it, because reminded me of her tremendous loss. So I'm happy, she gave it a new vibe, I love how is she playing with her voice. But on the other side, for fans is much harder to sing along with her.Btw I don't mind if she gives a rest for it in the Courage World Tour. There are so many hidden gems in her french repertoir which deserves to be performed live, even on the anglophone concerts. 4 Quote
browseceline Posted July 23, 2019 at 04:10 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 04:10 PM She has her state of mind while being on the stage, mood etc. She sang that song for 2 Milion times, it just obvious she will want to change it. I find the improvisations she does, are not easy to do and interesting, show me another female singer that can do that.She added the runs on some songs, I like it less, but it's nice she is trying to present the songs in other ways. People will want to hear her same 5 poweful hits, no matter what and she knows that,even if she is sick as hell to sing them over and over again, on that matter I feel sorry for her:) Anyway, she is the only singer I can stand when it comes to singing in French:)Maybe not easy but i think she currently butchers that beautiful song. Okay i get that she gets tired of singing it..... Eh.. You don't have to? Year after year no variation or almost no variation in the setlist and there are so so many other songs to choose from. Hope she does bring something new to the table in the courage tour! Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G965F met Tapatalk 2 Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
sarit_celine Posted July 23, 2019 at 04:33 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 04:33 PM Maybe not easy but i think she currently butchers that beautiful song. Okay i get that she gets tired of singing it..... Eh.. You don't have to? Year after year no variation or almost no variation in the setlist and there are so so many other songs to choose from. Hope she does bring something new to the table in the courage tour! Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G965F met Tapatalk Outch.. butchers, I guess each one sees things different It will be nice if she will sing some songs she didn't do in a while for that Tour, I don't care if there won't be dancers and "wows" momentsthe greatness for me in Celine it's just her singing alone, sorry I found all the acrobatic things like Pink and other do silly.I think she won't dare to do the same very setlist she did for the last years We will check who was right about that when she goes deep into the Tour lol. 2 Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
ryba Posted July 23, 2019 at 06:31 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 06:31 PM Absolutely. To me, she is ruining the beautiful magic of the original song and has reached a new level of cringe-making in her tired performing routine. She drags the words all the time. She changes the melody as if she doesn't know what else to do with the song in order to finish it in an acceptable way. To do that, it's better she gives the song a rest for good and picks another one. She has plenty of French gems out there to choose from and she could give her biggest French song a break before it's unrecognisable to listen to the same with LCMM, RDMH, TPOL, BYLM and ITCBTMN (although they are lipped, so she can’t do much wrong, but still) 1 Quote
AdrienneM Posted July 23, 2019 at 06:37 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 06:37 PM the same with LCMM, RDMH, TPOL, BYLM and ITCBTMN (although they are lipped, so she can’t do much wrong, but still) Whats she done with TPOL BYLM AND IACBTMN?? Its not as if they can be dropped, their 3 of her biggest hits Quote
mb011 Posted July 23, 2019 at 08:15 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 08:15 PM Ok, she is having live concerts for years now. And yet she embarks on a world tour. And she is bored in performing her greatest hits? Well then she should take a hiatus and find a new spark in her live performances, no one is forcing her to have concerts, and god knows she doesnt need the money. So, either do it right or dont do it at all. Just my two cents on the matter... 5 Quote
maki_Dion-er Posted July 23, 2019 at 10:29 PM Posted July 23, 2019 at 10:29 PM (edited) Well this tour is less about the greatest hits and more about the new album so those greatest hits likely aren't going to be the center of attention. She could be changing the way she sings the songs for several reasons, not just because she's bored. Maybe she just wants to play with them, or maybe it's both. Sometimes changes work, sometimes they don't but I like seeing her play around and do things differently. Obviously she doesn't need the money so she doesn't need to do concerts and she doesn't need to record new albums and yet she does, I guess she just wants to. That's a funny reason to do things isn't it? So weird. Either do it right or don't? How about she can do whatever she wants and fans decide whether they want to go or not. Everybody wins. Ok, she is having live concerts for years now. And yet she embarks on a world tour. And she is bored in performing her greatest hits? Well then she should take a hiatus and find a new spark in her live performances, no one is forcing her to have concerts, and god knows she doesnt need the money. So, either do it right or dont do it at all. Just my two cents on the matter... Edited July 23, 2019 at 10:30 PM by maki_Dion-er 3 Quote
Javito Posted July 24, 2019 at 03:29 PM Posted July 24, 2019 at 03:29 PM Ok, she is having live concerts for years now. And yet she embarks on a world tour. And she is bored in performing her greatest hits? Well then she should take a hiatus and find a new spark in her live performances, no one is forcing her to have concerts, and god knows she doesnt need the money. So, either do it right or dont do it at all. Just my two cents on the matter... Only her unlimited avidity to amass more money, hers and her team, who knows no limits to put her on one show after another as if she was a singing machine Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
AdrienneM Posted July 24, 2019 at 03:54 PM Posted July 24, 2019 at 03:54 PM Only her unlimited avidity to amass more money, hers and her team, who knows no limits to put her on one show after another as if she was a singing machine I know i would. I get to do what i love in front of thousands of people and get paid millions for it? Count me in 1 Quote
Popular Post Jeanette Posted July 24, 2019 at 10:16 PM Popular Post Posted July 24, 2019 at 10:16 PM Just been watching some videos on YouTube again from BST and can’t see why most on here seem to hate what she’s doing with PQTME, I think she’s just trying to inject some new life into it and I think it’s really quite good. I don’t mind singers putting a fresh new spin on songs when performing them live, most performers do one way or another and a lot of the times they tend to murder their own songs but I don’t think that’s the case here. On the contrary, I actually think this shows Celine’s artistry right here that people on here seem to think she’s lacking. 10 Quote
fred Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:16 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:16 PM "Butches PQTME at BTS" is to me total bullshit and way too drama queen-esque. She does a new rendition of it. And bravo for that! That's how live concerts should be. If we'd want studio tracks we'd might as well stay home listening to that - saves you a lot of money! If this is "butchering" I wish she'd butcher the hell out of her old hits too!! Folks give her a f****** break. It's not like she's doing a Bob Dylan (I heard one hard core fan going to one of his concerts and not beeing able to fully tell when he was doing his biggest hits coz he messed them up so much) And even though she sings songs like this people can still sing along (if that is the main purpose you have to go to a concert). Gee! Outch.. butchers, I guess each one sees things different 3 Quote Peace and love to all.
fred Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:36 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:36 PM We can only hope but know for sure if the majority of the songs will be from Courage... Chances are they'll do like they use to: add in just a handful from the new album then release a greatest hits album out of the blue to totally kill the latest album. I fully agree on your second point regarding her interpreting the songs live. I don't agree on your last point. It's hard for us fans when we buy a ticket for the tour how the quality of the tour will look like before it has even started. Will it be faboulus like 2017 or will it be boring as in 2018, and how many songs will be playback. So it's not as simple as "just don't buy a ticket" coz it's a lottery. Well this tour is less about the greatest hits and more about the new album so those greatest hits likely aren't going to be the center of attention. She could be changing the way she sings the songs for several reasons, not just because she's bored. Maybe she just wants to play with them, or maybe it's both. Sometimes changes work, sometimes they don't but I like seeing her play around and do things differently. Obviously she doesn't need the money so she doesn't need to do concerts and she doesn't need to record new albums and yet she does, I guess she just wants to. That's a funny reason to do things isn't it? So weird. Either do it right or don't? How about she can do whatever she wants and fans decide whether they want to go or not. Everybody wins. Quote Peace and love to all.
AdrienneM Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:39 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 02:39 PM We can only hope but know for sure if the majority of the songs will be from Courage... Chances are they'll do like they use to: add in just a handful from the new album then release a greatest hits album out of the blue to totally kill the latest album. I fully agree on your second point regarding her interpreting the songs live. I don't agree on your last point. It's hard for us fans when we buy a ticket for the tour how the quality of the tour will look like before it has even started. Will it be faboulus like 2017 or will it be boring as in 2018, and how many songs will be playback. So it's not as simple as "just don't buy a ticket" coz it's a lottery. Is the playback to live ratio really that big of a thing for you? Because for me, id rather her lip 6 or 7 songs and be able to make it through a tour than give her all for the first 10 shows, become vocally exhausted and then be dragged online for having bad vocals 2 Quote
fred Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:04 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:04 PM Yes it is. There are ways to go around that you see... like lowering keys, not singing ALL the demaning every night and shorten the setlist and shorten the tour. If that gives great concerts I'd rather have that than being false and lip. Yes I'd prefer to her shortening the tours. I wouldn't mind missing out if I knew there was a DVD/album with great quality on it. I am the type of guy who chooses quality over quantity Is the playback to live ratio really that big of a thing for you? Because for me, id rather her lip 6 or 7 songs and be able to make it through a tour than give her all for the first 10 shows, become vocally exhausted and then be dragged online for having bad vocals 1 Quote Peace and love to all.
AdrienneM Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:11 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:11 PM Yes it is. There are ways to go around that you see... like lowering keys, not singing ALL the demaning every night and shorten the setlist and shorten the tour. If that gives great concerts I'd rather have that than being false and lip. Yes I'd prefer to her shortening the tours. I wouldn't mind missing out if I knew there was a DVD/album with great quality on it. I am the type of guy who chooses quality over quantity Thats the thing though, shorten the show every single person will complain its too short and not worth the money. Shortening the tour isnt an option either. Lowering the key, yes thats an option, but many of the songs are so revered and loved so much because of the high key, the big notes and the difficulty of them. All her big hits are also vocally demanding, another reason why it’s difficult to do much about it. And lipping hardly constitutes a good show or not. AND was a great show, FULL of lipping, yet, still a great show. TCWT for what it was worth was a good show, probably worse than AND in terms of lipping, still a good show 1 Quote
sarit_celine Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:11 PM Posted July 25, 2019 at 03:11 PM If this is "butchering" I wish she'd butcher the hell out of her old hits too!! Folks give her a f****** break. It's not like she's doing a Bob Dylan (I heard one hard core fan going to one of his concerts and not beeing able to fully tell when he was doing his biggest hits coz he messed them up so much) Amen to that! At least she is being creative with her singing. 3 Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
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