Céline being cool again

[jpatdeleon09]

I think it would be great if it trends on TikTok. Lipping this isolated vocals

[sarit_celine]

Rolling Stone considers this person, Mariah Carey, to be the greatest singer alive today.

 

https://youtu.be/OKIY9tCaqU0

 

We need to make this performance go viral.

 

Is this video for real? I know she has issues with her vocal chords but this one is way behind overwhelming.

[comingback]

Did a fan in Quebec watch the Synder show? When will they show it?

[mebe]

Did a fan in Quebec watch the Synder show? When will they show it?

Its supposed to be tonight

 

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[smw]

https://youtu.be/cR4btrGssP4

 

Celine needs more supporters on US television like back in the day with Leno, Letterman, Oprah, Barbara Walters, Regis, etc.

 

This panel of women don’t seem to get that Celine is a huge deal. Sara Haines at least tried. But Whoopi, as usual, dominated the convo.

 

Edited January 9, 2023 at 11:44 PM by smw

[comingback]

Its supposed to be tonight

 

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How was the show? What did Snyder say? Was there sth. new?

Edited January 10, 2023 at 05:53 PM by comingback

[mebe]

How was the show? What did Snyder say? Was there sth. new?

 

Well, first of all Claudette Dion was invited on the show to comment on the Rolling Stones' list of singers. Obviously, she didn't understand why Celine was not included. Then they showed the clip of their visit at the RS offices in NYC. Julie went to the front desk and told the guys it was a shame. One of the guys agreed and said there were other singers who could have been on the list as well. She played All By Myself to make her point and show them Celine is the best singer. The guy said she could not go up to the office. Then Julie interviewed and recruited some people on the street to protest with her and the Red Heads. Then, they all tried to come in again but the security guards were blocking the door. Then the Variety girl showed up and maybe TMZ I dont remember. They talked to them a little bit and asked them to all sing All By Myself. At that time, the RS editor was there too. He talked briefly, he didn't know what to say obviously. He just said, he didn't vote but he was part of all the work behind this and said it was a team effort bla bla bla and then he quickly left. Then, apparently he sent a message to Julie saying that he had not realized that she was the host of Star Académie which he knew and he was kind of apoligizing for that. He also said that his husband thought that Celine should have been on the list...

[comingback]

 

 

Well, first of all Claudette Dion was invited on the show to comment on the Rolling Stones' list of singers. Obviously, she didn't understand why Celine was not included. Then they showed the clip of their visit at the RS offices in NYC. Julie went to the front desk and told the guys it was a shame. One of the guys agreed and said there were other singers who could have been on the list as well. She played All By Myself to make her point and show them Celine is the best singer. The guy said she could not go up to the office. Then Julie interviewed and recruited some people on the street to protest with her and the Red Heads. Then, they all tried to come in again but the security guards were blocking the door. Then the Variety girl showed up and maybe TMZ I dont remember. They talked to them a little bit and asked them to all sing All By Myself. At that time, the RS editor was there too. He talked briefly, he didn't know what to say obviously. He just said, he didn't vote but he was part of all the work behind this and said it was a team effort bla bla bla and then he quickly left. Then, apparently he sent a message to Julie saying that he had not realized that she was the host of Star Académie which he knew and he was kind of apoligizing for that. He also said that his husband thought that Celine should have been on the list...

 

Merci🙂

[dawn]

From Julie Snyder Facebook:

 

https://www.facebook.com/JulieSnyderOfficiel/videos/5598369480291561

[Katie]

Indeed, we all miss Céline

 

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[scielle]

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Carl's book is what got me back into Celine fandom after ~15 years away, so I'm always curious what he has to say on Celine-related topics.

 

Thoughts from Carl Wilson & Brendan Kelly. Brendan’s article below.

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"Rolling Stone snubbed her, but she's Queen Céline in Quebec

In the past decade or so, singer has become an untouchable public figure in the province.

Author of the article:

Brendan Kelly • Montreal Gazette

 

There was a time when it was cool in Quebec to lampoon Céline Dion. Popular comedy troupe Rock et Belles Oreilles happily spoofed her. Intellectuals snickered when talking about her.

 

But you don’t hear that kind of talk any more ici. Something strange happened over the past decade or so. Notre Céline nationale became perhaps the province’s only untouchable public figure. In a way, Queen Céline kind of became like the Queen.

 

People can harshly criticize the monarchy. But when Queen Elizabeth died last September, you would have been hard pressed to find anyone with a bad word to say about her, even in Quebec, hardly a hotbed of royalists. And the same goes for Dion.

 

Back in the day, Radio-Canada columnists would be all too eager to suggest Dion wasn’t nearly on the same level as other francophone musical stars like Robert Charlebois or Michel Rivard. But when Dion was left off Rolling Stone magazine’s recent list of The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time, Eugénie Lépine-Blondeau — the cultural columnist for the Radio-Canada morning show Tout un matin — took to Facebook to protest against the exclusion.

 

She wrote (translated): “It is objectively inconceivable that Céline is not in the Top 200. 200!!! Whether you like her or not, there is no denying Céline Dion’s immense talent, vocal agility, success and influence in the world. That she is snubbed from this list is frankly incomprehensible.”

 

In a similar vein, La Presse’s Chantal Guy published a column saying it was hard not to take the Rolling Stone snub personally. She underlines how at a time when young people are losing interest in Québécois culture, Dion is the person more than anyone else who brings that Quebec culture — and accent — to the four corners of the world.

 

Support for Dion also came from more predictable quarters, like the local Dion fan club The Red Heads and quirky TV host Julie Snyder, who made the trek down to New York City to protest in front of Rolling Stone’s offices along with a bunch of Québécois Céline fans, an event that made for some pretty funny footage on Snyder’s talk show La semaine des 4 Julie Monday evening.

 

Even for those here who wouldn’t necessarily listen to Dion records in the privacy of their home, there’s a certain respect. I remember talking years ago with Montreal International Jazz Festival co-founder André Ménard, who told me that he had always dreamed of persuading Dion to do a major show at the jazz fest, to hopefully showcase another side of her musical persona.

 

I think the Céline love-in here has a lot to do with the fact that francophone Quebec loves winners — from Félix Auger-Aliassime to Denis Villeneuve to Céline Dion, people who put notre “pays” front and centre on the world stage. That seems to make sense.

 

What I find more bizarre is the kind of visceral distaste so many English North Americans have for Dion, and I believe the Rolling Stone list is just the latest example of this. Think about it for a moment: 200 singers and you don’t have a place for Dion yet manage to include Billie Eilish, Courtney Love and Chet Baker, the latter whom my former colleague and noted jazz critic Paul Wells wrote on Facebook is “a horrid singer and, worse, a sentimental one.”

 

Rolling Stone seems to have gone out of its way to snub Dion. It was a nasty thing to do and also, I’m sure, a deeply cynical decision because the Rolling Stone editors must have known that it would create a huge outcry and help the list go viral online. When you get Whoopi Goldberg and her colleagues on The View venting their outrage over Dion’s exclusion, you know it’s a ka-ching moment for Rolling Stone.

In his fine book Let’s Talk About Love, A Journey to the End of Taste, Canadian music critic Carl Wilson notes that with My Heart Will Go On, “Céline-bashing became not just a Canadian hobby but a nearly universal pastime.”

 

So what’s up with the hating on Céline from folks outside Quebec? It’s not like she’s the only syrupy mainstream singer out there. Whitney Houston, who has as many cringe-worthy ballads as Dion, is No. 2 on the Rolling Stone list. You could argue that the English-Canadian Céline dissing has an element of Quebec bashing to it. The American animosity probably has more to do with critics trying to look cool.

 

Here’s the real irony. Rolling Stone hasn’t been remotely cool since 1972 and I’d argue that Dion is actually cooler than many who made the Rolling Stone list for the very good reason that she’s one of the few major music stars who has always remained refreshingly down-to-Earth. Oh, and she is a pretty good singer."

[marc-02]

Thoughts from Carl Wilson & Brendan Kelly. Brendan’s article below.

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"Rolling Stone snubbed her, but she's Queen Céline in Quebec

In the past decade or so, singer has become an untouchable public figure in the province.

Author of the article:

Brendan Kelly • Montreal Gazette

 

There was a time when it was cool in Quebec to lampoon Céline Dion. Popular comedy troupe Rock et Belles Oreilles happily spoofed her. Intellectuals snickered when talking about her.

 

But you don’t hear that kind of talk any more ici. Something strange happened over the past decade or so. Notre Céline nationale became perhaps the province’s only untouchable public figure. In a way, Queen Céline kind of became like the Queen.

 

People can harshly criticize the monarchy. But when Queen Elizabeth died last September, you would have been hard pressed to find anyone with a bad word to say about her, even in Quebec, hardly a hotbed of royalists. And the same goes for Dion.

 

Back in the day, Radio-Canada columnists would be all too eager to suggest Dion wasn’t nearly on the same level as other francophone musical stars like Robert Charlebois or Michel Rivard. But when Dion was left off Rolling Stone magazine’s recent list of The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time, Eugénie Lépine-Blondeau — the cultural columnist for the Radio-Canada morning show Tout un matin — took to Facebook to protest against the exclusion.

 

She wrote (translated): “It is objectively inconceivable that Céline is not in the Top 200. 200!!! Whether you like her or not, there is no denying Céline Dion’s immense talent, vocal agility, success and influence in the world. That she is snubbed from this list is frankly incomprehensible.”

 

In a similar vein, La Presse’s Chantal Guy published a column saying it was hard not to take the Rolling Stone snub personally. She underlines how at a time when young people are losing interest in Québécois culture, Dion is the person more than anyone else who brings that Quebec culture — and accent — to the four corners of the world.

 

Support for Dion also came from more predictable quarters, like the local Dion fan club The Red Heads and quirky TV host Julie Snyder, who made the trek down to New York City to protest in front of Rolling Stone’s offices along with a bunch of Québécois Céline fans, an event that made for some pretty funny footage on Snyder’s talk show La semaine des 4 Julie Monday evening.

 

Even for those here who wouldn’t necessarily listen to Dion records in the privacy of their home, there’s a certain respect. I remember talking years ago with Montreal International Jazz Festival co-founder André Ménard, who told me that he had always dreamed of persuading Dion to do a major show at the jazz fest, to hopefully showcase another side of her musical persona.

 

I think the Céline love-in here has a lot to do with the fact that francophone Quebec loves winners — from Félix Auger-Aliassime to Denis Villeneuve to Céline Dion, people who put notre “pays” front and centre on the world stage. That seems to make sense.

 

What I find more bizarre is the kind of visceral distaste so many English North Americans have for Dion, and I believe the Rolling Stone list is just the latest example of this. Think about it for a moment: 200 singers and you don’t have a place for Dion yet manage to include Billie Eilish, Courtney Love and Chet Baker, the latter whom my former colleague and noted jazz critic Paul Wells wrote on Facebook is “a horrid singer and, worse, a sentimental one.”

 

Rolling Stone seems to have gone out of its way to snub Dion. It was a nasty thing to do and also, I’m sure, a deeply cynical decision because the Rolling Stone editors must have known that it would create a huge outcry and help the list go viral online. When you get Whoopi Goldberg and her colleagues on The View venting their outrage over Dion’s exclusion, you know it’s a ka-ching moment for Rolling Stone.

In his fine book Let’s Talk About Love, A Journey to the End of Taste, Canadian music critic Carl Wilson notes that with My Heart Will Go On, “Céline-bashing became not just a Canadian hobby but a nearly universal pastime.”

 

So what’s up with the hating on Céline from folks outside Quebec? It’s not like she’s the only syrupy mainstream singer out there. Whitney Houston, who has as many cringe-worthy ballads as Dion, is No. 2 on the Rolling Stone list. You could argue that the English-Canadian Céline dissing has an element of Quebec bashing to it. The American animosity probably has more to do with critics trying to look cool.

 

Here’s the real irony. Rolling Stone hasn’t been remotely cool since 1972 and I’d argue that Dion is actually cooler than many who made the Rolling Stone list for the very good reason that she’s one of the few major music stars who has always remained refreshingly down-to-Earth. Oh, and she is a pretty good singer."

 

I'm a bit disappointed at how Carl Wilson - despite his dare I say magnum opus that is "LTAL: The Journey to the End of Taste" - seems to be taking this all in. Disappointed that he thinks this was an "oversight," when clearly this was "deliberate" on Trolling Stone's part. I'm not so sure if he is just playing it safe or something. But this was clearly not an oversight. When making a list, the moment you type "Whitney" or "Mariah" on your computer, it is almost impossible not to think about Celine next. And this goes both ways, the moment whoever was typing at RS types "Celine" on their computer, they would immediately think about "Whitney" or "Mariah" or to some extent even Barbra. It's like when you think of Paul McCartney, you next think about Lennon. The thoughts are just inseparable. So clearly, this was deliberate.

Edited January 12, 2023 at 03:48 AM by marc-02

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I'm a bit disappointed at how Carl Wilson - despite his dare I say magnum opus that is "LTAL: The Journey to the End of Taste" - seems to be taking this all in. Disappointed that he thinks this was an "oversight," when clearly this was "deliberate" on Trolling Stone's part. I'm not so sure if he is just playing it safe or something. But this was clearly not an oversight. When making a list, the moment you type "Whitney" or "Mariah" on your computer, it is almost impossible not to think about Celine next. And this goes both ways, the moment whoever was typing at RS types "Celine" on their computer, they would immediately think about "Whitney" or "Mariah" or to some extent even Barbra. It's like when you think of Paul McCartney, you next think about Lennon. The thoughts are just inseparable. So clearly, this was deliberate.

 

Agreed - I’m a bit baffled by his response to this. There’s no way it was an oversight unless they have actual morons working there…

[comingback]

MTV Germany is showing the 90s weekend right now.

 

They played 4 Celine videos (more than any other singer)❤️.

 

The Power Of Love

Because You Loved Me

Immortality (studio version)

My Heart Will Go On

Edited January 14, 2023 at 03:11 PM by comingback

[CourageCeline]

I love the comeback of Immortality!!! It has been going popular for a while on social media!

[smw]

I love the comeback of Immortality!!! It has been going popular for a while on social media!

 

It’s one of her best. Meaningful lyrics, gorgeous song.

[LukeD]

Immortality is quite possibly my favourite English song. The lyrics, the melody, her voice... Everything about it is giving. Edited January 15, 2023 at 11:19 AM by LukeD

[PuraVida]

Just read Brendan Kelly's words. Very well-put and insightful. I don't think it is Quebec bashing per se, but then again maybe there is a slight tinge of more readily dismissing anyone outside of the standard American cultural mainstream.

 

And thankfully someone repeats the point that Celine isn't the only singer out there with "cheesy" love songs. She gets called over-the-top for belting out the same types of songs that others have done. And as we know...there are a few hit songs that she refused that went onto become big hits for others. But those artists don't get called the same types of things.

[scielle]

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"Céline Dion allowed us to dream out loud — en français

Rolling Stone wants cultural impact — Céline brings it. She is the shining promise that we of l’Amérique française have a voice in the firmament.

 

Franco-Canada is en maudit. MAD. Céline Dion — our girl — was snubbed. Denied her place in Rolling Stone magazine’s list of the 200 greatest singers of all time.

Ah, ces Américains!

 

“These are the vocalists that have shaped history and defined our lives — from smooth operators to raw shouters, from gospel to punk, from Sinatra to Selena to SZA,” wrote Rolling Stone in a preamble to the vexing list.

 

Much ink has spilled on this scandal, with Céline’s champions calling the omission a “crime against humanity,” and vehemently denouncing it her celebrated “Je téléphone à la police” meme. A caravan of the zealous even travelled from Montreal to New York to protest in front of Rolling Stone headquarters.

 

But no matter, l’Amérique française has always known that Céline had shaped and defined the world, her meteoric rise a manifestation of the will of generations of French-speakers on this continent.

 

Céline toured my hometown of Sudbury in the early 1990s. I was on the cusp of young adulthood, far from the tounes of Pierre et le papillon and Suzanne Pinel, to which I’d rocked out during my Franco-Ontarian childhood. Suddenly, here she was, a cool Québécoise. A chanteuse, a star, an idol.

I was electrified.

 

Yet I already knew her — all Franco-Ontarian children did. We had all learned the words to “Une colombe,” a magical tune sung by 16-year-old Céline as she welcomed Pope John Paul II during his visit to Montreal in 1984.

 

That spring, however, I barely recognized her. Young and sure of the strength of her voice. Generous, signing autographs, engaging my younger brother in conversation, and he, astonished that the young diva had descended from her divine throne to speak to a mortal (“Daniel!? I have a brother named Daniel!”).

 

In 1990, the year American artist Pink says Rolling Stone became irrelevant, Céline would again inspire my young francophone soul. At the Gala de l’ADISQ in October of that year, Céline won — and declined — the award for anglophone artist of the year for Unison, saying, “all around the world, I proudly say I am Québécoise.”

This was résistance.

 

There was backlash from the press, praise from the eminent Jacques Parizeau, and even a rebuttal to the editor of The Montreal Gazette by her manager (and future husband) René Angelil.

 

But she was fière, fierce, and franco, the daughter of a “people with no literature and no history,” from a continent where “the language, the laws and the character are English,” a glorious subversion of the forces of history, which sought to swallow the French Fact across l’Amérique française for centuries.

 

Rolling Stone wants cultural impact — Céline brings it. She is the shining promise that we of l’Amérique française have a voice in the firmament. Céline pierced the zeitgeist so that we might dream out loud.

En français."

[scielle]

Bowen Yang does a bit of IACBTMN in this -

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Edited March 21, 2023 at 10:51 PM by scielle

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Yaas! I love MUNA! their cover of Britney's "Sometimes" is also amazing

 

and here's the commentary on the behind the scenes throwing all kinds of praises towards Céline

[scielle]

Billboard picked up on it -

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[CourageCeline]

[maki_Dion-er]

I started the new Amazon mini-series Dead Ringer (w/ Rachel Weisz) & the 1st episode ends with Think Twice.

[jpatdeleon09]

Do you guys know this? It’s been trending.. I saw the other video like this about ADHD and it was 1M+

 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8cdaUSb/