Celine Dion and recent comparison with Adele

[justinecoria]

Adele is overweight. Saying Adele is overweight is not insulting. (unless you assume overweight is something bad )

 

Do you see how you assume things? I never said overweight was bad, you did ! ).

 

And I suspect it has something to do with you being teased for being overweight in the past. Am I right.

Now you're taking those feelings you had and projecting them to me in your wrong assumption of what I meant.

And you're living the feeling again of being bullied. And blaming me as the "bully" which bullied you in the past. Am i right? Therefore you call me a bully for saying Adele is overweight, I learned this in psychology, by the way.

Well you couldn't be more wrong. I am very sensitive and I would never bully or hurt someone for any physical attribte. That's just not me.

You're such a jerk. What you're doing in this post and your previous posts is a kind of bullying and fat-shaming to be honest, even if you're saying you're not. The fact that you hurt someone with your words here should be enough for you to apologize instead of trying to justify your nonsense. Sometimes I just wish Celine's fans were more like her.

[Nmj]

Aretha Frankln is considered obese. It had nothing to do with her career nobody turned on her, but every artist usually has a time where they are "hot" eventually the storm settles and they remain a big deal but the public will move on to the next big act.

[Brandon]

You're such a jerk. What you're doing in this post and your previous posts is a kind of bullying and fat-shaming to be honest, even if you're saying you're not. The fact that you hurt someone with your words here should be enough for you to apologize instead of trying to justify your nonsense. Sometimes I just wish Celine's fans were more like her.

What the heck are you talking about. Who did I "hurt" Adele?

The only person I commented on was Adele

I said she is over weight.

Do you think Adele reads this forum?

Edited December 7, 2015 at 04:17 AM by Brandon

[Brandon]

Aretha Frankln is considered obese. It had nothing to do with her career nobody turned on her, but every artist usually has a time where they are "hot" eventually the storm settles and they remain a big deal but the public will move on to the next big act.

You better apologize for calling Aretha obsese, cuz apparently I have to apologize to Adele for saying she's overweight.

[Brandon]

Actually no...but thank you for psycho-analyzing me without charging a co-pay. I only became overweight over the past couple of years, and I've never been bullied for it. Nor have I made anyone else feel inadequate for being overweight. I've never used someone's physical appearance as a means of proving a point that would negatively reflect on the way they look. That is rude, insensitive and disgusting.

 

You didn't ONLY say that Adele was overweight...I will quote you again...

 

"Not to mention Adele is overweight and they will turn on her eventually."

 

This came off as you using her body as a reason for her career to go downhill. There was no assumption. Your statement was very blunt. How else is one supposed to take that statement?

Yes i said that you failed to mention the person I quoted and what they said..

So I will repeat it yet again:

Xpresso said That Adele is where Celine once was during MHWGO period and that "eventually" people and radio programmers turned on her so i quoted her and added a comment.

Can't you get what you're doing. Misquoting and taking people out of context and making assumptions. Again please drop it.

Edited December 7, 2015 at 04:26 AM by Brandon

[CelinesDIVO5]

Yes i said that you failed to mention the person I quoted and what they said..

So I will repeat it yet again:

Xpresso said That Adele is where Celine once was during MHWGO period and that "eventually" people and radio programmers turned on her so i quoted that and added a comment.

Can't you get what you're doing. Misquoting and taking people out of context and making assumptions. Again please drop it.

 

That wasn't a misquote. That was a direct quote...of something YOU said. And whether you meant it in that context or not, it was taken that way because of the way it was worded. And that was your own doing.

Edited December 7, 2015 at 04:27 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[Brandon]

That wasn't a misquote. That was a direct quote...of something YOU said. And whether you meant it in that context or not, it was taken that way because of the way it was worded. And that was your own doing.

Again you failed to acknowledge it was a follow up to what Xpresso said. You are trying to make it sound like it was a stand alone statement out of the blue. Try again. By the way, I am overweight also. Bet you assumed otherwise right,

[CelinesDIVO5]

Again you failed to acknowledge it was a follow up to what Xpresso said. You are trying to make it sound like it was a stand alone statement out of the blue. Try again. By the way, I am overweight also. Bet you assumed otherwise right,

 

I don't assume anything about you other than what I've observed through your posts. The post you responded to (which I just went back and read again) had absolutely nothing to do with Adele's weight. You brought it up and used her weight as an anchor to prove a point.

Edited December 7, 2015 at 04:43 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[Brandon]

I don't assume anything about you other than what I've observed through your posts. The post you responded to (which I just went back and read again) had absolutely nothing to do with Adele's weight. You brought it up and used her weight as an anchor to prove a point.

they will pick on her for being overweight unfortunately. its just the way it is these days. Xpresso said that eventually radio programmers and people turned on Celine. For Celine it was she was cheesey or "too goody goody" or anorexic. . For Adele it will be she's overweight. It sucks, I know. I've experienced it too. Edited December 7, 2015 at 04:56 AM by Brandon

[stone]

There will always be people that are overweight, skinny, average, short, tall, big, small, very dark, super pale. With music, we're fortunate to not really care about that if the music is true to the listener's ears. I literally sometimes have to stop what I'm doing when I hear Adele's voice. It literally makes me go somewhere else for a few moments. Fat, overweight, skinny, it doesn't matter when your music moves so many people the way that Adele moves me.

 

And btw, Brandon you were not nice and you know well enough. You need some quality time with your mother.

Edited December 7, 2015 at 05:11 AM by stone

[Brandon]

There will always be people that are overweight, skinny, average, short, tall, big, small, very dark, super pale. With music, we're fortunate to not really care about that if the music is true to the listener's ears. I literally sometimes have to stop what I'm doing when I hear Adele's voice. It literally makes me go somewhere else for a few moments. Fat, overweight, skinny, it doesn't matter when your music moves so many people the way that Adele moves me.

 

And btw, Brandon you were not nice and you know well enough. You need some quality time with your mother.

Adele could not compare to Celine. LOL. Saying Adele is overweight is a fact. I am also overweight. I don't think its an insult. Being overweight is not a bad thing. But unfortunately the industry thinks it is.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Adele could not compare to Celine. LOL. Saying Adele is overweight is a fact. I am also overweight. I don't think its an insult. Being overweight is not a bad thing. But unfortunately the industry thinks it is.

 

And it's up to the public to stop perpetuating that.

[stone]

Adele could not compare to Celine. LOL. Saying Adele is overweight is a fact. I am also overweight. I don't think its an insult. Being overweight is not a bad thing. But unfortunately the industry thinks it is.

 

Jesus take the wheel ...and drive fast. #fixitjesus

[mirage]

Like I said, it has nothing to do with the type of song someone is singing.

Or if a song is suited to someone's voice.

 

 

And yeah, Hello sung by Celine wouldn't have that much success, because the song is suited to Adele's voice

 

Hello sung by Celine wouldn't have that much succes, because Celine sings it...

It really isn't if the song suits the voice, they make it work eventually.

 

I do NOT discredit Adele her voice, not for 1 second.

 

It's just that people follow her like little lambs, and yes that every fart that comes out of her is all glitters and roses.

 

And yes I would love that it would happen to celine. You all say she had it in the 90's but there was no social media so who knows for sure.

 

Yes it's time for other artists to shine and have their success.

 

But if a song is a good song it should be played and get the attention it deserves whether it is sung by a 25 year old girl, or a woman who is in her 50's and had her big success in the 90's...

 

It really shouldn't matter, but it does and that's what's bothers me.

 

Media should be honest and fair, and they are not. And people follow and follow...

 

 

 

 

Bitter much? It took Adele a few years and a great voice for her to come to this point, where yes every fart that comes out of her is amazing. And to be honest, yes I find everything she is doing now amazing. 25 is a really really good album.

 

And yeah, Hello sung by Celine wouldn't have that much success, because the song is suited to Adele's voice. Celine's version of Rolling In The Deep had all the right notes, but I wasn't convinced by it. I would still choose Adele's version everyday to sing on or to listen to. The same way Adele would sound really bad singing Celine's songs.

Some singers get famous and people follow them like lambs (we Celine fans know a lot about that), but one shouldn't forget why Adele is where she is. And let's not discredit her voice that easily. The quality of a voice is not only about range. Celine wouldn't be one of the greatest voice ever if this was the case.

[CelineDionFreak]

Ok this argument got old two pages ago... Let's stop and just agree to disagree.

[CelineDionFreak]

 

 

Jesus take the wheel ...and drive fast. #fixitjesus

Jesus take the wheel

[CelineDionFreak]

I grabbed the popcorn a while ago.

I did too... But then threw it out after the argument got boring. Lol

[CelineDionFreak]

I grabbed the popcorn a while ago.

I did too... But then threw it out after the argument got boring. Lol

[Xpresso]

Brandon Boy, you need to let it go. I'm no moderator but this is getting so childish.

And no, we don't need to know Adele's weight...

[stone]

Brandon Boy, you need to let it go. I'm no moderator but this is getting so childish.

And no, we don't need to know Adele's weight...

 

The irony of all this, I was at an ugly sweater Christmas party over the weekend, and we were talking about favorite Christmas songs. But one drunken fun woman dressed up as Santa said Adele has the great husky voice because she's husky and then she kinda smacked her own gut in her Santa suit and said "it ain't over til the fat lady sings". It was a happy jolly moment, everyone laughed, and we cheered.

 

The girl can saaang and just like every singer, the world will just have to agree to disagree on pretty much everything.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Like I said, it has nothing to do with the type of song someone is singing.

Or if a song is suited to someone's voice.

 

 

 

 

Hello sung by Celine wouldn't have that much succes, because Celine sings it...

It really isn't if the song suits the voice, they make it work eventually.

 

I do NOT discredit Adele her voice, not for 1 second.

 

It's just that people follow her like little lambs, and yes that every fart that comes out of her is all glitters and roses.

 

And yes I would love that it would happen to celine. You all say she had it in the 90's but there was no social media so who knows for sure.

 

Yes it's time for other artists to shine and have their success.

 

But if a song is a good song it should be played and get the attention it deserves whether it is sung by a 25 year old girl, or a woman who is in her 50's and had her big success in the 90's...

 

It really shouldn't matter, but it does and that's what's bothers me.

 

Media should be honest and fair, and they are not. And people follow and follow...

 

Just commenting on one of your points...Social Media. Celine did not need Social Media in her hey day to sell 30 million copies of not only one, but 2 albums back to back. Celine had her time when times were much simpler and where success had to be worked for 100 times harder because the artist had to do so much more. Now the PR team for an artist is the fans, and the online promo is done for FREE. In this case, Celine wins. But it's really not a competition.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Ok this argument got old two pages ago... Let's stop and just agree to disagree.

I did too... But then threw it out after the argument got boring. Lol

Brandon Boy, you need to let it go. I'm no moderator but this is getting so childish.

And no, we don't need to know Adele's weight...

 

The irony of all this, I was at an ugly sweater Christmas party over the weekend, and we were talking about favorite Christmas songs. But one drunken fun woman dressed up as Santa said Adele has the great husky voice because she's husky and then she kinda smacked her own gut in her Santa suit and said "it ain't over til the fat lady sings". It was a happy jolly moment, everyone laughed, and we cheered.

 

The girl can saaang and just like every singer, the world will just have to agree to disagree on pretty much everything.

 

I was just trying to distinguish insult vs. not an insult. The way he worded it was insulting. Is Adele overweight? Yes. So is most of the U.S. Should anyone be judged because of the way they look? No. That's all I was trying to get across.

 

 

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[Brandon]

Yep I know what you mean. If we were all perfect we would all look like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, lol

[LukeD]

1st - There was no music video to the lead single

 

2nd - they left the promotion weeks after the album release

 

3rd - there were no third single in the US

 

The only music video made to promote the album, was release several months after the single released

 

She did 3/4 songs at american television only, Breakaway and Save your soul sounds more US than Water and the flame or Somebody loves somebody, witch to me is more European sound

 

Thankful or Always be your girl, could have done well on AC, but they abandon the album promotion and never release those songs

 

There was no decent remixes for the following single - Incredible

 

Only Sony Music in UK, did something for the album, they brought extra promotion singles to radios, like Breakaway and WaF

Do you really believe that the lack of a music video affected the album sales? Celine was never a singles artist. She was never known for her music videos. I should remind you that LTAL was the most anticipated album of 1997 and Celine made NO music videos for the lead singles (The Reason, Be The Man, Tell Him).

 

What is more you can't blame anyone for not releasing single after single when radios ignore Celine. What is the point of having a song out? Don't you remember there was a radio deal with a UK radio station which helped WAAF reach #30 on the airplay chart? Solid performance but not great.

 

You tell me ABYG and Thankful could have done well on the AC chart and my question is WHY? LMBTL struggled to stay withing top 40, other typical Celine ballad had little impact (Stand By Your Side, In Some Small Way, My Love). Please, ask anyone to tell you that the AC chart is NOT what it used to be. They only recycle what is on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.

 

The album was well promoted from September till December 2013 but showed no success, nor improvement in US. If it didn't sell between this period, then it wouldn't have sold more in January or February. Celine showcased her material and people didn't buy it. We have to stop creating excuses and deal with the facts. My final argument (proving the modern sound did not work for Celine in US) is that Celine will return to her roots with her 2017 album, mark my words on that.

Edited December 8, 2015 at 11:10 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

And yeah, Hello sung by Celine wouldn't have that much success, because the song is suited to Adele's voice. Celine's version of Rolling In The Deep had all the right notes, but I wasn't convinced by it. I would still choose Adele's version everyday to sing on or to listen to. The same way Adele would sound really bad singing Celine's songs.

Some singers get famous and people follow them like lambs (we Celine fans know a lot about that), but one shouldn't forget why Adele is where she is. And let's not discredit her voice that easily. The quality of a voice is not only about range. Celine wouldn't be one of the greatest voice ever if this was the case.

There is no such thing as ''...suited to Adele's voice''. Anything Adele can sing, Celine can sing it too. Especially when we're talking about ballads.

 

Celine releasing ''Hello'' now would have no impact on charts because she is 47 years old. Back in the 90s she would top the charts... well if she didn't reject the song.

Edited December 8, 2015 at 11:25 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

There is no such thing as ''suited to Adele's voice''. Anything Adele can sing, Celine can sing it as well. Especially when we're talking about ballads.

 

Exactly. In fact songs are produced to suit it's singer. For example, had Celine recorded "Unbreak My Heart" it would have been produced in a way that matched the way Celine sings a ballad, and had Toni Braxton recorded "Because You Loved Me" it would have been produced to match Toni's RnB style. Any song can be arranged to suit the person performing it.

[LukeD]

Exactly. In fact songs are produced to suit it's singer. For example, had Celine recorded "Unbreak My Heart" it would have been produced in a way that matched the way Celine sings a ballad, and had Toni Braxton recorded "Because You Loved Me" it would have been produced to match Toni's RnB style. Any song can be arranged to suit the person performing it.

Yeap. UMH has some really low notes which Celine could not pull off so I guess her version of the song would be more bombastic. But talking about Adele and Hello it is clear that Celine could do a note-to-note cover of the song (like she did with Rolling In The Deep) and nail it.

[Brandon]

Yeap. UMH has some really low notes which Celine could not pull off so I guess her version of the song would be more bombastic. But talking about Adele and Hello it is clear that Celine could do a note-to-note cover of the song (like she did with Rolling In The Deep) and nail it.

Celine's version of RITD was so much better too. Anything Adele can do Celine can do better. That's true. Why settle for second best when we can have Celine right. Edited December 9, 2015 at 12:13 AM by Brandon

[CelineDionFreak]

Celine's version of RITD was so much better too. Anything Adele can do Celine can do better. That's true. Why settle for second best when we can have Celine right.

Exactly! Lol I'd love to see her do "When We Were Young" from Adele's new album. The chorus just screams Celine right now.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Celine's version of "Rolling In The Deep" was nothing special, in my opinion. Just because she can sing, doesn't mean she sounds amazing on everything she touches. Adele's original will forever be the best.