Celine Dion and recent comparison with Adele

[Brandon]

Don't worry, with huge success comes backlash... Adele will soon get that just like Céline did unfortunately...

Well Beyonce didn't get that yet.

[NicoNV]

Well Beyonce didn't get that yet.

 

People knock her all the time for claiming song writing credits for changing one word in a song (or so people claim).

 

 

 

Adele is tremendously talented. I am a big fan. I am also a fan of Celine. Being a fan isn't a mutually exclusive venture.

 

It isn't fair to compare Adele to Celine or Whitney Houston. She doesn't have their vocal talent, but she has never pretended to be either of them. They are all different in their own right. Thankfully at least Adele and Celine seem to have enough sense of self to not get caught up in trying to be anyone other than themselves.

 

The media weakly compares any two women who sing without accounting for talent, focus, skill development, genre, or artistry. It gets attention. It's easy journalism.

 

Adele will face a backlash one day to some degree because she is famous and that is pretty much how it works. Negative people abound and the entire industry thinks tearing someone down builds them up because attention = success. It's a messed up equation without substance. I think the healthier people in the industry just ignore the industry and all the hype (good or bad) and focus on their work and things that matter. In that sense, I hope Adele can follow Celine's path.

 

 

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Edited November 30, 2015 at 01:19 AM by NicoNV

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

Move.

 

Where do you want Manilou to move to? I'm confused by this post.

Edited November 30, 2015 at 01:20 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[powerofamor17]

 

 

I just moved from Tokyo to Berlin Thank you for that long and honest response to my open and sincere post!

“Move” does not mean to actually move. Lol. It means, that I disagree and disregard what ever you said.

 

Adele has been losing weight FYI. Celine got her teeth done for herself, she doesn't care what everyone says. She still is very Quebecois and everyone sees that, she just separates her careers. She always makes decisions, Rene is her manager,snd husband, thus enabling him to of coarse fend for and protect his wife's careers and image. To call Celine fake, is just something that doesn't deserve any retaliatio, Much less a long, lengthy, robust, snooze-fest, paragraph of a comment.

[powerofamor17]

 

 

 

 

And thank you manilou. Agree or not, I'd like to think this is a place for thoughtful conversation not blind adulation.

I don't care to be “cool”. Please do expand your perceptions and outtakes on my delivery.

 

Edited November 30, 2015 at 01:23 AM by powerofamor17

[québecflower]

"Move" does not mean to actually move. Lol. It means, that I disagree and disregard what ever you said.

 

Adele has been losing weight FYI. Celine got her teeth done for herself, she doesn't care what everyone says. She still is very Quebecois and everyone sees that, she just separates her careers. She always makes decisions, Rene is her manager,snd husband, thus enabling him to of coarse fend for and protect his wife's careers and image. To call Celine fake, is just something that doesn't deserve any retaliatio, Much less a long, lengthy, robust, snooze-fest, paragraph of a comment.

you are right about that, saying that Celine is fake because she upgraded her teeth , and speek a better french in France is far from the truth. Her teeth were awful , it was just normal for her to do that, and for the french, i will just say that she wants to be understood in France, because our way of talking is somewhat different, So it is good for her and it is a mather of respect for the people.

[Brandon]

you are right about that, saying that Celine is fake because she upgraded her teeth , and speek a better french in France is far from the truth. Her teeth were awful , it was just normal for her to do that, and for the french, i will just say that she wants to be understood in France, because our way of talking is somewhat different, So it is good for her and it is a mather of respect for the people.

what are you saying? Celine speaks a different french in France?

[CelinesDIVO5]

what are you saying? Celine speaks a different french in France?

 

Québécois French and French in France are different language dialects and accents.

[québecflower]

what are you saying? Celine speaks a different french in France?

exactly like english is not same in each states, Texas vs New york. etc. As the french is not the same in each region of France, south vs Normandie. We just have to make the effort to adapt when we go there.

[scielle]

I don't care to be "cool". Please do expand your perceptions and outtakes on my delivery.

 

Just saw it as an unnecessarily dismissive retort. That's all.

[Philippe]

Well, I like the fact that Celine is being associated with the biggest success in music industry since herself. I think both of them have a lot in common. They sale their talents and personalities first. People connect with them. They are both girls-next-door with no ego, from modest families. And musicwise, Celine could sing most of Adele songs and they would fit her. This whole ''Adele is the new Celine'' thing could end up benefiting to Celine. I really do wish they'll do something together eventually.

[fikus1]

I wish Celine said things like that when she releases her next album.

 

Adele really knows what she sings about

That's why I respect her very much

 

https://youtu.be/Cvrr8sAThek

[celinesounds]

This is side effects of ama 2015😉

[Bell]

I see, hear and feel nothing Celine about Adele or this particular song.

[manilou]

"Move" does not mean to actually move. Lol. It means, that I disagree and disregard what ever you said.

 

Adele has been losing weight FYI. Celine got her teeth done for herself, she doesn't care what everyone says. She still is very Quebecois and everyone sees that, she just separates her careers. She always makes decisions, Rene is her manager,snd husband, thus enabling him to of coarse fend for and protect his wife's careers and image. To call Celine fake, is just something that doesn't deserve any retaliatio, Much less a long, lengthy, robust, snooze-fest, paragraph of a comment.

 

I know what you meant by it and I consciously chose to make a joke about it

 

If you read my post again you may see that I do not call Celine fake per se. I said in some moments or with some aspects of her career she seems fake to me. Portraying a certain image that will sell more albums. J

Just to be sure again: I love Celine, she is part of my triumvirate of Adele, Sam Smith and Céline Dion. She is way above so many other singers! But this topic is about how Adele is compared to Celine and I just wanted to say why I,personally, as a big Celine fan still prefer Adele.

It's ok she speaks less quebecois in France and that she had her teeth done, no problem with that in general, but for me personally, it shows that she sometimes is a product more than a personality. The sole fact that there are a French Céline and an English Celine shows that she changes according to whom she is trying to selll her product. When I watch Adele, she is the same everywhere. She doesn't change her Cockney accent when she is in America and she doesn't stop swearing even when Anderson Cooper is sitting across from her. She just is who she is and stays that way and that is what connects to people and to me.

 

When I listen to Celine I love the music and I sing along, but when I listen to Adele or Sam Smith, their music touches me so deeply that it reminds me of times in my life and makes me refelct on them and feel shitty or cozy or cheated on or just plain sad. Listening to their music does something to me, makes me think about what is wrong with my life and what is good.

On 25 Adele does sing about heartbreak but she also sings about coming to terms with who you are, feeling nostalgic and missing thins you took for granted during your youth. I know she is singing about these topics because she thinks about them and has been through them.. and you know what... I have too and I still am going through them. Sometimes listening to a song of hers and hearing her talk about why she wrote it I realize things I hadn't before.

With Celine I have never had that,she touches me and that's why she is one of my favorites, but she doesn't really make me think, not like Adele can! Again that may be because she is a completely different age group and in a completely different place in her life than me.

 

I feel like I need to say this: This is me, my opinion, what seems true to me. I completely understand that people prefer Celine or anyone else and maybe when I get older or go through things in my life my opinion will change but right now at this moment in time as a 26-year-old German gay guy who has to move a lot due to his job, Adele and Sam Smith speak to me. I think I can be a Celine fan and still be conscious of the things that bother me.

Edited November 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM by manilou

[joaofilho]

You say that Adele has not changed, she was dieting to lose weight, it is very difficult, the more it tried and failed. Céline changed its appeared because it was the best for her, yeah, what's wrong, I do not understand some comments here, as I said Adele so is sendoboa because of its success, I like your music, now, some of you talk to Celine not being good because it does not write his songs is too much, if so Nooo it was good in the past, it's all about success and momentum, Celine had his moment of another, Adele is having yours now and will pass.

[manilou]

You say that Adele has not changed, she was dieting to lose weight, it is very difficult, the more it tried and failed. Céline changed its appeared because it was the best for her, yeah, what's wrong, I do not understand some comments here, as I said Adele so is sendoboa because of its success, I like your music, now, some of you talk to Celine not being good because it does not write his songs is too much, if so Nooo it was good in the past, it's all about success and momentum, Celine had his moment of another, Adele is having yours now and will pass.

 

Adele says she lost the weight she lost to be able to keep up with her son. I don't think she did it to be more successful or for people to call her beautiful. Sam Smith is a different story.

Who says Celine isn't good? I said that I love her and love listening to her music. I think I explained long enough in the previous post why Adele speaks to me more. That's all. I can love Celine and still think other singers are even better than her. If Adele ever annoys me or I think she is not being sincere and genuine anymore, I will criticize her for it too. I just don't like being chained religiously to a singer and pretending to love every little bit they do, because that is what I would be doing if I didn't say what bothers me about Celine: pretending!

Edited November 30, 2015 at 11:14 AM by manilou

[gafsa]

I see Adele loosing weight to be more successful as you see celine portraying a certain image that will sell more albums. I see Adele talking about something and not talking about anything else to keep her market. I see adele sworing to make everyone belive she is honest for the marketing thing, I guess it depend how we want to see it. I never believe Celine always honest, nor everyone else because in the end of the day it's all about business, the can't always be honest.

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Adele contre Céline Dion : quelle voix vous fait le plus rêver ?

[Daysleeper]

Céline vs. Adele

 

[anewdayhascome]

we have a separate Adele topic, do we need another one?

[DionFanAlways]

we have a separate Adele topic, do we need another one?

I second this!

[SuperLove4Celine]

[Xpresso]

French in Quebec and in France is basically like US English vs UK English... accents and some words/expressions are different but not completely different... Edited December 1, 2015 at 12:42 AM by Xpresso

[light_secret]

I don't think comparison is necessary for both artists...To put things into perspective...CELINE is already a legend while Adele is a legend in the making...I always say this that Adele is actually enjoying Celine's success from way back then. The reason why critics do usually compared Celine and Adele is because of the impact Adele had on her second album 21...so did happen with Celine's third English album Falling Into You...it was huge I even remembered Billboard used to describe that the album sold every second. I respected Adele with her success because she truly deserves it, one of the reason why she is selling as well is because the generation of today found music to be of less quality until Adele came and save the whole industry! Her success is really spectacular but Celine is already a Legend...no need to be compared with any artist because she doesn't need to prove to the music industry anymore...she had been in the top and she stayed there for quite a bit!

 

And as she said "I don't need to prove to the music business anymore because I've done that. Now am at the peak of my life and I am slowly climbing down one step at a time." What I love most about Celine is that after all these years, she stays grounded!

 

Lastly, French Celine is far more great compared to the English Celine....the emotion she put into her French songs are real!

[scielle]

I haven't yet heard the full album (I know! Must be the only one!) so will refrain from comment on that front, but I for one am happy to see Adele's staggering success.

 

It just really makes me sad about Amy Winehouse. Same vintage, similar beginnings (same arts high school, right?)...yet such different endings. Amy was just a singular talent. Just such a tortured soul surrounded by all the wrong people. Such a sad story. I was really looking forward to all the fabulous music she was going to make and so wish she was still around to make it. I miss her.

[stlcardsfan]

Celine is my favorite singer and I have never heard a more beautiful voice than hers. Also, I enjoy Adele's music and find the comparisons flattering for both ladies. With that said, Celine and others helped pave the way for Adele's success. For singers like Celine and Adele, you don't need sex, flashy costumes, or personal life drama to become successful. For them it's just about talent.

 

Also, I came across this article in which Adele mentions Celine as one of her idols, although she thinks she's too young to record a particular song that reminded her of Celine and some other artists. I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere!

[anewdayhascome]

As I said earlier I don't like Adele and I don't want to continue this subject but I have to say one thing...

 

Adele isn't successful because of her songs, no, that's not THAT. If Celine had recorded them, they (nor the albums) wouldn't have had such a big success as Adele has had. Celine could sing them, could make them even bigger but that wouldn't change the fact that her name is Celine Dion. Adele just has a cool factor which Celine doesn't... And it's not that for instance Breakaway is weaker or sth, right?. And Why is it happening? What's the reason behind it? There is only one - it's her management and its promotion. Adele is heavily played on EVERY radio station and they're talking about her all the time (and they didn't give any chance to TC, LMBTL or other Celine albums post ANDHC). What's more, it's been the first time today since many many years that I have seen a poster of an artist who has just released an album on the street in Warsaw and there are also CD commercials on TV. I haven't seen these 2 examples of promotion in years!

 

But one has to admit, that (at least in Poland) between this new album and song (I don't remember the title even) and the previous single (about two years?) Adele's presence on the radios wasn't that obvious... so I'd say that when they want to promote sth, they do it and when they don't (in Celine's case), the just don't. I hope it'll change with Aldo in charge. It's our LAST chance

Edited December 1, 2015 at 10:14 PM by anewdayhascome

[Davey84]

 

 

And Why is it happening? What's the reason behind it? There is only one -

 

Yes I know the reason.... Celine got kicked out of the illuminati and now Adele is their new princess

 

[québecflower]

Yes I know the reason.... Celine got kicked out of the illuminati and now Adele is their new princess

you have to pay each year, like the Columbus Knights. René forgot.