SuperLove4Celine Posted July 29, 2019 at 09:43 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 09:43 PM Seems like another round of uploads has started! They've just uploaded the Incognito-album on Youtube. Wonder if they're building towards the release of a new song again? One can only hope. Which aren’t available in the U.S. Plus, they messed up on the titling of “Partout je te vois.” **rolling my eyes** Quote
scielle Posted July 29, 2019 at 09:50 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 09:50 PM Which aren’t available in the U.S. Plus, they messed up on the titling of “Partout je te vois.” **rolling my eyes** Seriously?!Sigh. Quote
ryba Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:09 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:09 PM Seems like another round of uploads has started! They've just uploaded the Incognito-album on Youtube. Wonder if they're building towards the release of a new song again? One can only hope.I think it’s mailny about money. If people stream it or watching it, they earn money, so the more material there is available, the more money they can make Quote
AdrienneM Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:16 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:16 PM I think it’s mailny about money. If people stream it or watching it, they earn money, so the more material there is available, the more money they can make To be honest, streaming makes barely any money. That's why touring is every artists best friend, its a surefire way to make solid money Quote
ryba Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:23 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:23 PM To be honest, streaming makes barely any money. That's why touring is every artists best friend, its a surefire way to make solid moneyyes, but that’s still better than nothing Quote
couldawouldashoulda Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:50 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 10:50 PM I think that yes, the artist makes money from touring, but the record companies are the ones who make any money off of streaming. Am I wrong? That would make sense as to why Sony is finally putting everything up - they’re trying to make some money since Celine barely releases new material these days - she’s just out for the touring money. (Which quite frankly she could ride tours for another decade or two without releasing new material so I’m just glad that we’re getting SOMETHING new in English this year.) 1 Quote
AdrienneM Posted July 29, 2019 at 11:03 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 11:03 PM I think that yes, the artist makes money from touring, but the record companies are the ones who make any money off of streaming. Am I wrong? That would make sense as to why Sony is finally putting everything up - they’re trying to make some money since Celine barely releases new material these days - she’s just out for the touring money. (Which quite frankly she could ride tours for another decade or two without releasing new material so I’m just glad that we’re getting SOMETHING new in English this year.) Sony make most of the money from streaming, but if we look at analytics shes making $88 dollars of revenue a day on Youtube which is then split between celine, copyright holders, song writers, composers, sony themselves and producers... so barely anything is being made here 1 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted July 30, 2019 at 12:39 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 12:39 AM Seriously?!Sigh. I wish I were joking. The way her French career is handled is embarrassing. 1 Quote
marc-02 Posted July 30, 2019 at 01:45 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 01:45 AM (edited) To be honest, streaming makes barely any money. That's why touring is every artists best friend, its a surefire way to make solid money https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-services-pay-2019/ Touring of course is the most lucrative... But streaming, though not as lucrative, is the easiest and cheapest way to earn money without the record company or celine's management doing anything. Theyre just milking her old catalogue... Instead of releasing physical copies, which could only sell so much plus production cost... They'd rather just make them available for streaming and let these songs earn by themselves while the exectuives just sit back... Edited July 30, 2019 at 01:50 AM by marc-02 1 Quote
scielle Posted July 30, 2019 at 02:11 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 02:11 AM Streaming completely revived the music industry - it's growing for the first time in years. Universal makes $10mln from streaming every day; their revenues from streaming were up 32% year-on-year in the first half of 2019. So yes, there's money to be made, but of course it gets divvied up many ways.And in Celine's case, she doesn't get any of the publishing royalties since she doesn't hold the copyrights. Plus her deal was probably signed many years ago, when terms were generally less favorable to the artist (now, labels are far more lenient and allow those artists with leverage to retain more rights, because they all fear disintermediation). Quote
sarit_celine Posted July 30, 2019 at 05:17 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 05:17 AM Quote "Needed in the chaos and confusion, from the plains to City HallNeeded where the proud who walk the wire are set to fall"
ryba Posted July 30, 2019 at 08:38 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 08:38 AM (edited) And in Celine's case, she doesn't get any of the publishing royalties since she doesn't hold the copyrights. Plus her deal was probably signed many years ago, when terms were generally less favorable to the artist (now, labels are far more lenient and allow those artists with leverage to retain more rights, because they all fear disintermediation). you’ve made a very interesting point. How do you know that she doesn’t own any publishing royalties at all? We know that there was a time when Rene asked songwriters to sell their publishing rights to him and Celine and some people agreed, maybe this further continued and we don’t know about it. Maybe some less known songwriters agreed to sell their rights just to appear on Celines albums. I think this is highly interesting, cause if she really doesnt own any publishing rights, well, then it’s clear why she doesn’t care to greatly promote her own music or to release new music. Edited July 30, 2019 at 08:46 AM by ryba Quote
comingback Posted July 30, 2019 at 02:09 PM Posted July 30, 2019 at 02:09 PM (edited) https://youtu.be/mf-nq6M8Tgs Celine's best English album, my favorite . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcdmjeTN8UI How cool is that. I wish Sony would do something like that (the ATW DVD is so embarrassing). Edited July 30, 2019 at 02:26 PM by comingback 2 Quote
brendanm999 Posted July 30, 2019 at 04:22 PM Posted July 30, 2019 at 04:22 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxg04Swsao Quote
Overjoyed Posted July 30, 2019 at 09:24 PM Posted July 30, 2019 at 09:24 PM Celine's best English album, my favorite . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcdmjeTN8UI How cool is that. I wish Sony would do something like that (the ATW DVD is so embarrassing).Many thanks. It's a preview of a project that I'm developing since 2016... And Blacktooth it's part of the team. 2 Quote
brendanm999 Posted July 30, 2019 at 11:07 PM Posted July 30, 2019 at 11:07 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJ0aPrC4nQ 3 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted July 31, 2019 at 01:02 PM Posted July 31, 2019 at 01:02 PM More audio videos uploaded to YouTube. This time, songs from “Des mots qui sonnent”/“Dion chante Plamondon.” Guess what? Every single one blocked in the U.S. So f*cking moronic. And the apologetic train keeps on rollin’. Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted July 31, 2019 at 01:40 PM Posted July 31, 2019 at 01:40 PM Are you monomaniac ? Hardly. I just don’t put up with stupidity very well. Furthermore, if you think her YouTube videos being blocked on YouTube in the U.S. is the one (“mono”) thing I only gripe about, or talk about on here, you are sorely mistaken. Quote
blacktooth Posted July 31, 2019 at 04:13 PM Posted July 31, 2019 at 04:13 PM If that's what it takes --> JJ Golden ?! the result of lack of sleep. Pardon i've spent so much time on that works and here's an upcoming ones that i hope no more "errors" http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/d3/01/f3/eaa4421289474474.jpg 3 Quote
brendanm999 Posted August 1, 2019 at 06:59 PM Posted August 1, 2019 at 06:59 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbVos5Yios&feature=youtu.be 1 Quote
scielle Posted August 2, 2019 at 04:21 AM Posted August 2, 2019 at 04:21 AM (edited) Remember this interview she did in Jan, in which she recounted story of being bullied in school that made her cry? (At about 6min)She did a 20+ minute interview in Frenchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RsqBN9_MUc Well, check this out. An interview from 1990, in which talks about the same experience. Though back then, with a laugh.I wonder what this Sylvain is up to now...(It's about 5:20 into the video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3G1ONM2ZA&t=5m15s(Some fun childhood photos in this one, too. And super interesting interview overall, with the benefit of hindsight.) Edited August 2, 2019 at 04:36 AM by scielle 3 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted August 2, 2019 at 01:22 PM Posted August 2, 2019 at 01:22 PM More audio videos uploaded. This time, from the album, “D’eux.” Of course, every single one is blocked in The States. So pathetic. 2 Quote
Critiaslux Posted August 3, 2019 at 07:54 AM Posted August 3, 2019 at 07:54 AM More audio videos uploaded to YouTube. This time, songs from "Des mots qui sonnent"/"Dion chante Plamondon." Guess what? Every single one blocked in the U.S. So f*cking moronic. And the apologetic train keeps on rollin'. It's very bizarre, as the DCP and D'Eux albums were distributed in the USA. So I was hoping that copyright-wise, it should not be an issue. Oddly and conversely, Just Walk Away, a track that was not on the US version of the TCOML album may be viewed in the USA, whereas I would have expected otherwise. Would be interesting to understand the reasons. Quote
BartFCS Posted August 3, 2019 at 12:30 PM Posted August 3, 2019 at 12:30 PM (edited) I discovered this accidentally. Somehow I enjoy it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9OdyJyNmK0 Edited August 3, 2019 at 12:31 PM by BartFCS 1 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted August 3, 2019 at 03:02 PM Posted August 3, 2019 at 03:02 PM I discovered this accidentally. Somehow I enjoy it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9OdyJyNmK0 Affort! Quote
brendanm999 Posted August 3, 2019 at 05:56 PM Posted August 3, 2019 at 05:56 PM (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3NV2Rolo5Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuFtPKsQ3eo Edited August 3, 2019 at 06:05 PM by brendanm999 Quote
brendanm999 Posted August 3, 2019 at 06:48 PM Posted August 3, 2019 at 06:48 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5a9ulmA5iYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGa8Csm2Cy8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_lLmYiyQUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YEu0T2faAU 1 Quote
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