"Courage" album - Official Topic

[superstar85ca]

Well you'd think she could sing songs she recorded in the last 2 years more easily than songs she recorded longer than 20 years ago, when she was in her vocal prime....

 

Watching this video makes me crave her singing songs like LND and NW live on tour

 

It still feels so weird how there's a disconnection between how she talks about the album and the boring setlist

 

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get what you're saying but there is a huge difference between recording songs in a studio and then performing them live with a band on stage in front of an audience. I'm trying to make sense of it but I guess I'll never know!

[PuraVida]

Question- Does anyone think that maybe celine is not as confident in her voice as she used to be and maybe that's why shes not singing new songs from the album in her tour? Like when she sang "Loved me back to life" live on a few appearances and it was very pitchy - could it be that there is so much production and editing on the album that she doesnt feel she can recreate a good live version of the new songs? This is a genuine question- not a statement. But it did cross my mind. I know she also feels she needs to do her hits but there is nothing from the Courage album in a tour that is called Courage. So I'm baffled! What do u guys think?

 

This is where some courage could help her.

[PuraVida]

I mean its great that the now generation sees Celine as a cool, iconic throwback and (thats about th extent of it to be fair) as did I growing up about people like Barbra, Tina and Aretha and Patti. I dont get why some people cant realise, Celine is still a post-prime artist, a legend yes but shes not at the top anymore, and to expect crazy numbers and crazy budgets for all sorts of media and tours and videos just isnt realistic

 

I disagree slightly. I don't think it is right to compare the situation to Babs or Aretha or Patti. Why? Because Celine rose to fame in the 1990s. Hell, even into the early 2000s was still among the most talked about pop stars. The '90s have their own special brand of nostalgia in modern popular culture (1), but (2) she is identified very heavily with the pop Diva movement in music of that time...she, Whitney, and Mariah all created that unique era. There is a very specific demand for the phenomenon of Celine.

 

But more than that, the internet and internet culture that have risen up almost identically around the time of Celine's popularity in my opinion means that an artist of her particular age, voice and caliber should be able to stay relevant if they play their cards right. If you have the right branding, social media and image, and, of course, wonderful music and vocal talent...I think anything is possible.

 

The sad thing is, her label probably knows all of that and decided she could get to #1 on her own and that was enough....so they decided not to give her a better budget for everything else.

[maki_Dion-er]

an artist of her particular age, voice and caliber should be able to stay relevant if they play their cards right.

 

I sort of agree with you but while I think she can still be more relevant (because I do think she has relevancy) than she has already made herself since 2017 there is still a generational gap that will keep her from being as popular as she was in her prime. She won't be able to be as mainstream as today's younger pop stars, it's just the way it is.

 

She can do much more but there is a limit imo.

 

I think the biggest missing factor in the album promotion was television appearances. Though album promo has slowed way down since the premier week it's not completely gone so maybe there's a few things to look forward to. But bottom line is that Celine doesn't really like to do promo so, truth be told, maybe budget is better used in fan content like music videos or bts content that can double as promo but doesn't feel like promo for her.

Edited February 2, 2020 at 05:14 AM by maki_Dion-er

[Angel2006]

So it looks like the photo wasn't of Celine! Darn it!

 

I had a big feeling it wasn't her. Celine's legs are longer then that and more defined as well. Naomi has nice legs, but Celine's calf muscles would be popping out like crazy in that challenging position. LOL

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I disagree slightly. I don't think it is right to compare the situation to Babs or Aretha or Patti. Why? Because Celine rose to fame in the 1990s. Hell, even into the early 2000s was still among the most talked about pop stars. The '90s have their own special brand of nostalgia in modern popular culture (1), but (2) she is identified very heavily with the pop Diva movement in music of that time...she, Whitney, and Mariah all created that unique era. There is a very specific demand for the phenomenon of Celine.

 

But more than that, the internet and internet culture that have risen up almost identically around the time of Celine's popularity in my opinion means that an artist of her particular age, voice and caliber should be able to stay relevant if they play their cards right. If you have the right branding, social media and image, and, of course, wonderful music and vocal talent...I think anything is possible.

 

The sad thing is, her label probably knows all of that and decided she could get to #1 on her own and that was enough....so they decided not to give her a better budget for everything else.

 

Cher has a very strong presence on the internet via Twitter, and she is in the same boat as Celine when it comes to current relevance and popularity. She’s a legend that everyone loves, but is not a radio hitmaker anymore.

 

Also, Barbra was about the same age as Celine is now when Celine was in her prime. She was in the same exact position that Celine is in now, back in 1997. A legendary diva who still had a fan base to support her, but wasn’t going to be a single chart topper anymore. It happens to every generation of artists.

Edited February 2, 2020 at 09:35 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[weasley123]

Question- Does anyone think that maybe celine is not as confident in her voice as she used to be and maybe that's why shes not singing new songs from the album in her tour? Like when she sang "Loved me back to life" live on a few appearances and it was very pitchy - could it be that there is so much production and editing on the album that she doesnt feel she can recreate a good live version of the new songs? This is a genuine question- not a statement. But it did cross my mind. I know she also feels she needs to do her hits but there is nothing from the Courage album in a tour that is called Courage. So I'm baffled! What do u guys think?

 

If she doesn’t feel like confident to sing challenging songs like Lying Down, The Hard Way, Change My Mind, etc, she can sing some songs that in her comfort zone like Heart of Glass, Baby, The Perfect Goodbye, or For the Lover That I Lost.

[ryba]

 

 

If she doesn’t feel like confident to sing challenging songs like Lying Down, The Hard Way, Change My Mind, etc, she can sing some songs that in her comfort zone like Heart of Glass, Baby, The Perfect Goodbye, or For the Lover That I Lost.

her being uncomfortable singing hard songs live is total bs. Look at how she does the Prayer (climax), TLBEPT (the high note), all live!!!! She totally nails these parts and they are 100% live. That’s certainly not the reason Edited February 2, 2020 at 10:02 AM by ryba

[AdrienneM]

 

 

I disagree slightly. I don't think it is right to compare the situation to Babs or Aretha or Patti. Why? Because Celine rose to fame in the 1990s. Hell, even into the early 2000s was still among the most talked about pop stars. The '90s have their own special brand of nostalgia in modern popular culture (1), but (2) she is identified very heavily with the pop Diva movement in music of that time...she, Whitney, and Mariah all created that unique era. There is a very specific demand for the phenomenon of Celine.

 

But more than that, the internet and internet culture that have risen up almost identically around the time of Celine's popularity in my opinion means that an artist of her particular age, voice and caliber should be able to stay relevant if they play their cards right. If you have the right branding, social media and image, and, of course, wonderful music and vocal talent...I think anything is possible.

 

The sad thing is, her label probably knows all of that and decided she could get to #1 on her own and that was enough....so they decided not to give her a better budget for everything else.

 

And yet growing up when I did, Barbra, Aretha and Patti were in the position Celine is now; a revered legend who is heavily respected and still does good tours and is respected by media and the younger generation but they have little interest in their new music, its same situation different time

[Xpresso]

And yet growing up when I did, Barbra, Aretha and Patti were in the position Celine is now; a revered legend who is heavily respected and still does good tours and is respected by media and the younger generation but they have little interest in their new music, its same situation different time

And we close the loop again with the fact that the general public wants their legends to sing their hits, and it's quite normal. If you've never seen Barbra in concert, I think most people would want to hear her hits more than her last album... and That's The Way It Is! Edited February 2, 2020 at 01:31 PM by Xpresso

[chy2j]

Are Team Celine doing a poll?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8EQDB6nuM_/?igshid=t8loe59ioqtm

[browseceline]

Are Team Celine doing a poll?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8EQDB6nuM_/?igshid=t8loe59ioqtm

 

it seems so, yes, so i hope they do something with that!

 

 

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[ryba]

Looks like something is cooking and they won’t let the album die

[jpatdeleon09]

Oh next week is valentines day! Let’s see if PMLALS will be released

[Del]

'Courage' by Celine Dion 12,000 / 556,000 WW

 

She's doing good enough, with no promo at all I would've expected it to drop sooner. It's not great, but she's still selling 12/15k each week, almost three months after its release.

 

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With the vinyl being released in a few weeks sales should briefly increase.

 

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[Bruno Portugal]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8EkcGdpSPf/?igshid=1x5ol9qczsl1y

 

“More to come...”

[CelineDionFreak]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8EkcGdpSPf/?igshid=1x5ol9qczsl1y

 

“More to come...”

I noticed that too!! I thought the fade out to FOMO was an abrupt cut, so I really think more is coming.

[ryba]

Hey guys, imagine that they do re-release the album with an additional disc containing the other songs she recorded for this album project, and dropped several new music videos and a long documentary. Wouldnt that be just freaking awesome?

[browseceline]

Hey guys, imagine that they do re-release the album with an additional disc containing the other songs she recorded for this album project, and dropped several new music videos and a long documentary. Wouldnt that be just freaking awesome?

 

you really think so;)

 

 

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[ryba]

 

 

you really think so;)

 

 

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LOL No idea, but I really hope so!

[maki_Dion-er]

I recorded the short film for those that don't have access to it. Posted it yesterday afternoon but totally forgot to share the link here.

 

https://youtu.be/UqUiV64eLnM

[ryba]

Looking and this, the set and scenery would be also perfect for a video to Heart of Glass!

 

In fact, they could have used this location to shoot several music videos!

Edited February 3, 2020 at 11:01 AM by ryba

[Nando Férri]

Looking and this, the set and scenery would be also perfect for a video to Heart of Glass!

 

In fact, they could have used this location to shoot several music videos!

Isn’t the location exactly the same of the remake of IACBTMN for Instagram?

[ryba]

 

Isn’t the location exactly the same of the remake of IACBTMN for Instagram?

yes, it is the same location

[chy2j]

I recorded the short film for those that don't have access to it. Posted it yesterday afternoon but totally forgot to share the link here.

 

https://youtu.be/UqUiV64eLnM

 

THANK YOU 😘

[PuraVida]

Cher has a very strong presence on the internet via Twitter, and she is in the same boat as Celine when it comes to current relevance and popularity. She's a legend that everyone loves, but is not a radio hitmaker anymore.

 

Also, Barbra was about the same age as Celine is now when Celine was in her prime. She was in the same exact position that Celine is in now, back in 1997. A legendary diva who still had a fan base to support her, but wasn't going to be a single chart topper anymore. It happens to every generation of artists.

 

Other people would know more than I do about the comparison about their relevance and popularity....though I highly doubt Cher could mount a world tour. Asia has no idea who Cher is, for example. But Cher had her chart topping "Believe" when she was around Celine's current age!

 

Also, the Barbra comparison is strange because Barbra never did far less tours and promotion given her aversion to the stage.

 

My point: I think Celine has a unique ability (despite the generational problem you mention) to have a chart topping hit and album. And the internet matters especially here, because new generations can discover Celine and her music....if nothing else, the Titanic movie's lasting impact makes them more receptive to streaming a smash Celine hit....if it is indeed a smash hit and promoted well!

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Other people would know more than I do about the comparison about their relevance and popularity....though I highly doubt Cher could mount a world tour. Asia has no idea who Cher is, for example. But Cher had her chart topping "Believe" when she was around Celine's current age!

 

Also, the Barbra comparison is strange because Barbra never did far less tours and promotion given her aversion to the stage.

 

My point: I think Celine has a unique ability (despite the generational problem you mention) to have a chart topping hit and album. And the internet matters especially here, because new generations can discover Celine and her music....if nothing else, the Titanic movie's lasting impact makes them more receptive to streaming a smash Celine hit....if it is indeed a smash hit and promoted well!

 

Cher had one of the lengthiest and most successful world tours ever...Asia isn’t the whole world lol.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Proof:_The_Farewell_Tour

[PuraVida]

Cher had one of the lengthiest and most successful world tours ever...Asia isn't the whole world lol.

 

https://en.m.wikiped...e_Farewell_Tour

 

I did not mean to imply Asia is the whole world. My point being, Celine can command a -sold out- audience in every continent...including Asia, which speaks to her global appeal seeing as English is not at all prevalent there. I don't think Cher can go to Beijing and sell out.

[jpatdeleon09]

Oh my gosh! I can’t wait to see this tour here in asia. The last time i saw her was last 2018 and the show was a bit simple so it’s all about her voice and there are so many positive comments about it and it made me so happy. And again, it’s really better to see her in person because she really sounds amazing live than watching a fancam on YouTube (i still don’t know why it sounds different).

 

So now, that this is a big prod i can say i’m a bit proud to show this tour to our country because most of us wants a spectacular show/big prod (not just her voice) since her tickets are expensive. We want all in. If they were amazed by her vocals now i want them to be amazed with the whole show. The drones, visuals.. OMG!

 

Céline: I want them to say.. oh my god! It was so good! It was so good! You know I‘m proud”, from her A New Day secrets.. remember this? Who wouldn’t be proud with the prod back in A New Day.

[browseceline]

 

THANK YOU

 

 

thank you for uploading! very artistic video and now it is time to let this translate in the current setlist. This setlist is way too safe and way too familiar. If you stand so much for this album, show it Celine!

 

 

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