"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Peppercorn1991]

Ugh, this makes me wanna vomit just a little... but here goes:

 

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God, I hate The Sun.

 

I liked the interview!

 

Kev x

[Shaun]

The article from Friday's Sun newspaper in the UK.

 

[browseceline]

I'm sure that I will get a few comments on this but, to me, no, I'm not happy with Sia. Sia is a great artist and truly is a treasure but, Sia is everywhere ATM. And it's not that it came as a surprise to me. Don't get me wrong but, if you see how much positive respond she got after 'Immortality', that's where people know her for. She's famous for the good old ballads. That's what a lot of people want to hear! I'm not praying for an album with dozens of covers or slow songs but, Céline and her voice are so unique in this world. We already have a Sia, we already have a Rihanna and what so ever. Stick by your unique self. And it's not a bad thing that she wants to discover and play with music but, I kinda miss the old Céline though... Yeah, she needs to reinvent herself in uptempo music but, please, let it be uplifting. Let it be a good pop album with uplifting melodies that celebrates life and happy moments. Songs like ANDHC. Remember that moment when HDAMLF came out? Everybody heard the old Céline and gone wild. Still, she has a huge public above the 50's and they do expect the traditional Céline though. Not a trial example to be at the playlists again.

 

Sia won't get her in the playlists again. Else it would have already happened with LMBTL. If Rihanna would have sung this song, it would be a smashed, huge hit everywhere! Sia is a great writer but, in my opinion, not for Céline. We all know that she will copy Sia's singing style and that is NOT Céline. Remember the scene in the toilet? There she approaches the song as a singer. I remember an interview where she said that she, when she sings it live, approaches it in another way. Still I think that when she thinks in that way, the song doesn't fit her voice always. And God, I still hope that she will collaborate back with David Foster for once. He can get something out of her voice that others can't and really, in. Y opinion I'd rather have a less quality album of ANDHC then a better version of LMBTL. I listened that album twice and that's it. For as her 90's album and ANDHC, I listen to them on a frequent manner.

 

Also for the tour I saw A LOT requests from her 90's and ANDHC album and only one or two songs from TC and LMBTL-album. That makes also sense I guess? Please, don't be angry with me. This is how I feel it.

Amen. That Her audience mostly likes 90s Celine. They are the ones that buy her album. They don"t care for Rihanna songs. They want classic ballad Celine or uplifting powerballad 90s style!

 

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[angelil78]

The article from Friday's Sun newspaper in the UK.

 

 

I liked that interview But how The Sun puts the interview on the paper is blahh..

But the interview it self was cool

[browseceline]

 

 

I'm not impressed by the headline they used in The Sun- she talked to a portrait of her dead husband and it spoke back to her - they're taking the piss

..yes and Dutch newspaper Telegraaf also had that as their headline. Because she reveils this kind of infornation people think she is weird. Tabloids love to portray her this way. But again..she should think twice before sharing such private things of her life.

 

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[Angel2006]

If I hear 1 more interviewer ask Celine if she thinks she will ever find love again, I think I will go crazy. It just bothers me so much, how disrespectful people's ways of thinking can be in these kinds of situations. I hate how people put pressure on others and make them somehow feel like they need to move on, like they're somehow doing something wrong if they choose to stay single. I know that people can find love again after there husband or wife passes away, but they shouldn't be made to feel like that's what you need to do in order to be "normal" or "happy"

 

I really hope that Celine doesn't have to keep answering this question over and over again, for the rest of her life. There is more important things in life then romance for goodness sake. These people who think you need a partner to make you complete and happy make me want to puke. I personally find this question to be so disrespectful.

 

In my opinion, this is not a question someone can answer. I don't think that finding someone else, after a loved one has passed is necessarily a planned thing. I think that, for the most part when it happens, It just happens with time and luck of finding that right person. That is an impossible question to know the answer to and it's an impossible thing to plan. It's beyond annoying and it honestly makes me want to slap these people in the face when they ask her this question.

 

Of course I wouldn't do that, but it just makes me so mad. I wish interviewers would just stop asking this question and move onto more positive topics. Sorry. It looks like a venting night for me. I feel better now. LOL.

[Javito]

Im glad that Sia wrote songs for Celine again but I was expecting a new collaboration. .. i'm a bit disappointed...

 

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Problem is that with Céline, when she loves and admires someone trendy, her crush lasts for about 3-4 years and she's stuck with it all the way. And then the collaboration with that trendy name comes 2-3 years later after all the hype has happened. This happened with Ne-Yo for example.

 

Now she comes with 3 more Sia songs that will come to light in 2018 at the soonest, but people has been collaborating with Sia since 2011. Yes she had her Sia song in 2013, that arrived on time for once. That was a great exception in her list of collaborations with trendy names. But maybe she'll have a crush now with Ed Sheeran or whoever is trendy now and will get a song for an album in 2020, when the hype with all these trendy artists has gone long ago probably.

 

She needs to be quick and anticipate her collaborations, songwriters and producers the moment they're making noise in the industry, not 5 years later as they've been usually doing. I hope RC gives her a hand with this and pushing her to work with the current names the moment they're fresh in the business and not years later when all the industry and radios have moved their eyes onto other names

 

Great interview. I really enjoyed it. She looked great too.

 

However maybe I'm alone but sadly I have to say I find the whole "ADELE PLEASE WORK WITH ME" thing very repetitive and a bit desperate. I wouldn't mind them working together if it did happen but this public show of affection for Adele has surely got to stop. This is where a manager would step in to guide her I think.

 

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Edited April 21, 2017 at 08:45 AM by Javito

[celine4evauk]

I'd rather Celine work with Sia than Adele.

And the album is nowhere near finished so who knows what else will happen.

[celine4evauk]

The article from Friday's Sun newspaper in the UK.

 

 

Anything interesting written today?

[Javito]

The only news that would bring some excitement to this album for me is the announcement that she's having a producer or a team of people who will supervise the whole tracklist and the sound and cohesion of the album. I would long this to happen more than any spare songwriter/duet announced.

 

So, as much as I'm more than happy with her having Sia again, it doesn't help her much to say that she's going to have songs by Sia or P!nk if then she comes up with random songs or covers that don't stick with the album and break all the possible flow in it (aka LMBTL album )

 

Not to mention that I fear another album with 10 different songwriters and producers for each song, not knowing the left hand what the right hand is doing

 

Imagine she'd announce she's having one big producer for the entire album, William Orbit or Glen Ballard for example, and whatever songs and songwriters come later, we would know that a cohesive, coherent album is on the way, at last To me, that would be a relief, and a guarantee that a good album is coming, no matter how good, popular or less known are the songwriters in it.

 

We need one name to direct the entire orchestra, not a dozen names sending songs and "playing their instrument" on their own.

Edited April 21, 2017 at 09:47 AM by Javito

[Javito]

For example, what they did with Taking Chances was very accurate. This album had a defined sound through all the songs, or most of them, and it had a flow, because they hired just a few reduced team of producers that were in charge of several songs each, giving them a similar direction, and especially, a blending sound.

 

So now, she has 3 Sia songs and 1 P!nk song. Without knowing how the Sia songs will sound, I dare to say right now that they'll have little to do with the P!nk song, so Recovering is already one track that it's going to be out of place and clash with the Sia songs (and probably with most of the rest of the songs in the album). They'd better be careful where they place Recovering in the album, so as not to break the flow in it and find this song too different from the rest or out of place.

 

So what would be the next step, if I were in Céline's team? We have 3 Sia songs, let's take it from there and work with the rest of the songs without losing sight of these Sia songs and the sound they're going to give them. Let's work with that base for the rest of the songs in the album so they have a common thread. They can have either the same producers working in these 3 Sia songs, or different ones, but let's not lose sight of how they're going to produce these 3 songs, because surely they're going to define a lot this album (needless to say that one of them will probably be a single -if not the first-, given the admiration Céline has for Sia)

Edited April 21, 2017 at 10:04 AM by Javito

[DionFanAlways]

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God, I hate The Sun.

I have got to find that club she'll be at. Celine at de club! Next years mission! Stalker alert....

 

Hey, if those were her actual quotes regarding fighting aging then I have no problem with the interview.

Edited April 21, 2017 at 10:04 AM by DionFanAlways

[Javito]

The process of Céline calling out songwriters and collecting songs through months (and years) as if she was picking up flowers in the field is what worries me. That's how Loved Me Back To Life started (2011-2013)

 

Needless to say that I didn't like Céline almost begging Adele to collaborate with her in the interview. She's like desperately screaming for songs in the empty space, and she'll take whoever replies back

[Caledor]

If I hear 1 more interviewer ask Celine if she thinks she will ever find love again, I think I will go crazy. It just bothers me so much, how disrespectful people's ways of thinking can be in these kinds of situations. I hate how people put pressure on others and make them somehow feel like they need to move on, like they're somehow doing something wrong if they choose to stay single. I know that people can find love again after there husband or wife passes away, but they shouldn't be made to feel like that's what you need to do in order to be "normal" or "happy"

 

I really hope that Celine doesn't have to keep answering this question over and over again, for the rest of her life. There is more important things in life then romance for goodness sake. These people who think you need a partner to make you complete and happy make me want to puke. I personally find this question to be so disrespectful.

 

In my opinion, this is not a question someone can answer. I don't think that finding someone else, after a loved one has passed is necessarily a planned thing. I think that, for the most part when it happens, It just happens with time and luck of finding that right person. That is an impossible question to know the answer to and it's an impossible thing to plan. It's beyond annoying and it honestly makes me want to slap these people in the face when they ask her this question.

 

Of course I wouldn't do that, but it just makes me so mad. I wish interviewers would just stop asking this question and move onto more positive topics. Sorry. It looks like a venting night for me. I feel better now. LOL.

 

I couldn't say it better than you did !

True, we all know (and the whole world knows) what she went/is going through, so respect and discretion about this is surely more than welcomed.

I'm also hoping that interviewers won't ask her this question for years on, and just focus on her music.

She said several times that at the moment being with someone else is "no way", so let's just give her some time and space.

[maria_k]

maybe she really really wants to sing with Adèle and she doesn't care if she looks desperate. As she said , you have one life to live and you must profit to the max from it. I think for one that she can do whatever she wants at this point. If nothing happens this time, then she can forget it.

yes, that's maybe how Celine feels, she is incredibly humble. And I like the fact that Sia replied again on twitter with 'love you so much', didn't see if Adele reacted somehow I guess not, she broke Celine's heart again lol

And this tweet made me laugh, though the names probably should be vice versa (why I still have no idea how to embed tweets ):

https://twitter.com/...129844648226817

[artistman2007]

To be honest she has get over the adele thing,adele got the chance at the grammys to express her feelings and she chose beyonce ,so someone has to tell celine,i mean celine was right infront of her eyes and she didn't even say thank u or its a big honor receiving the award from u like celine did alot of times,i think she's not interested that much in celine,her idol is beyonce ,but sia is humble and expressed her love for celine a few times

[mirage]

Where does she say that?

 

The only news that would bring some excitement to this album for me is the announcement that she's having a producer or a team of people who will supervise the whole tracklist and the sound and cohesion of the album. I would long this to happen more than any spare songwriter/duet announced.

 

So, as much as I'm more than happy with her having Sia again, it doesn't help her much to say that she's going to have songs by Sia or P!nk if then she comes up with random songs or covers that don't stick with the album and break all the possible flow in it (aka LMBTL album )

 

Not to mention that I fear another album with 10 different songwriters and producers for each song, not knowing the left hand what the right hand is doing

 

Imagine she'd announce she's having one big producer for the entire album, William Orbit or Glen Ballard for example, and whatever songs and songwriters come later, we would know that a cohesive, coherent album is on the way, at last To me, that would be a relief, and a guarantee that a good album is coming, no matter how good, popular or less known are the songwriters in it.

 

We need one name to direct the entire orchestra, not a dozen names sending songs and "playing their instrument" on their own.

[Javito]

Where does she say that?

 

That's the problem, that she's not announcing such thing LOL

 

She always announces songwriters and songs she has received from this and that, but never someone getting on board to direct the whole thing and coordinate the project (such as Jean-Jacques Goldman for her French albums).

 

Please don't get me wrong about the Sia songs, I'm more than happy and I think having her name is always welcomed on an album. But it's just that she still needs someone to supervise and give her albums a final touch and cohesion that they're lacking. Her albums look more a collection of songs than proper "albums" per se, if you know what I mean. They need to tell a story and have a flow, not collect songs from multiple origins and sources and put them in the blender to see what they get (like happened with LMBTL).

Edited April 21, 2017 at 12:29 PM by Javito

[Peppercorn1991]

 

 

That's the problem, that she's not announcing such thing LOL

 

She always announces songwriters and songs she has received from this and that, but never someone getting on board to direct the whole thing and coordinate the project (such as Jean-Jacques Goldman for her French albums).

 

Please don't get me wrong about the Sia songs, I'm more than happy and I think having her name is always welcomed on an album. But it's just that she still needs someone to supervise and give her albums a final touch and cohesion that they're lacking. Her albums look more a collection of songs than proper "albums" per se, if you know what I mean. They need to tell a story and have a flow, not collect songs from multiple origins and sources and put them in the blender to see what they get (like happened with LMBTL).

 

I agree with this... I recently purchased Roxette's newest album 'Good Karma' (which is excellent btw) and it was a breath of fresh air by the fact that it flowed! LMBTL was a jumble of songs which some I like individually.....but as an album it can be hard to listen to...

 

Most albums have their happy songs and songs with a lower mood but LMBTL is up down up down.... I can't listen to that album if I want to feel happy or if I'm feeling a bit down.... it's all over the place. ANDHC for example is perfect when I'm in a great mood...

 

Kev x

[dj_a_rock]

Is it just who feels I want to slap Adele's face? STOP IT CELINE! The more you mention Adele the more that people will think that you're a "has been" and you are just using Adele to get attention and for publicity. Your new album will sell without Adele's help.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Is it just who feels I want to slap Adele's face? STOP IT CELINE! The more you mention Adele the more that people will think that you're a "has been" and you are just using Adele to get attention and for publicity. Your new album will sell without Adele's help.

 

I've actually not heard anyone say they feel Celine is a has been or desperate for fan girling over Adele. Unless of course, I come to the Celine Dion Forum...

[Xpresso]

I can't believe Céline doesn't do spa treatments or facials!! What???

And I'm pretty sure she did have botox a long time ago... and that's when she was at her worst vocally.

So she really knows about the botox effect...

[Nmj]

I can't believe Céline doesn't do spa treatments or facials!! What???

And I'm pretty sure she did have botox a long time ago... and that's when she was at her worst vocally.

So she really knows about the botox effect...

 

When did she have botox in the 2006 era? Cause she did look younger than.

[Xpresso]

I think it was around that time. But she was also 10 years younger as well... but her skin did look great.

She was at an Oscar post-party and you could really tell she had a little "help".

[Nmj]

I think it was around that time. But she was also 10 years younger as well... but her skin did look great.

She was at an Oscar post-party and you could really tell she had a little "help".

 

 

 

If this is the photo you speak of... then please give some more botox lol and maybe get a tan!

[angelil78]

I don't think she needs botox. To me she looks like a normal person, more real than most Hollywood stars. I like to see her age naturally.

[Krys]

I've actually not heard anyone say they feel Celine is a has been or desperate for fan girling over Adele. Unless of course, I come to the Celine Dion Forum...

 

Ohhhh buuuuuuurn

[angelil78]

Ohhhh buuuuuuurn

 

[LukeD]

Cannot believe this album will come almost 5 years after LMBTL and 11 years after Taking Chances! I remember myself on October 2007 listening to Taking Chances, anticipating the album, while I was leaving my hometown to go to the university. Time flies! Edited April 21, 2017 at 06:23 PM by LukeD

[LukeD]

 

 

I've actually not heard anyone say they feel Celine is a has been or desperate for fan girling over Adele. Unless of course, I come to the Celine Dion Forum...

This is a common trait of several members: To think what is discussed here applies to the world.

 

CelineDionForum is the only place you will come across extensive discussions about lack of promo, Vegas negatively affecting her career, how Celine is robot-like when performing there, the notion that Celine became cool again and so on...

 

I think when you have an opinion you need to back it up with arguments, instead of trying to validate it through generalizations.