"Courage" album - Official Topic

[mirage]

Lovers Never Die is written by guys who also wrote 'Dangerous Woman' by Ariana Grande.

 

Always fun to guess what kind of songs they will be.

Remember when we knew that the Skies Of LA team also was responsible for Umbrella, and we got such a different track.

 

Some goes for David Guetta.

I wonder if Steve Aoki will surprise us or the opposite.

[Ajax]

Don't know if someone said it but I have seen the name of The Dap-Kings in the list as arrangements, it is close to "The Stereotypes" so I guess it's related to the song "How did you get Here". The dap-kings are usually a band with a very soul-jazz vibe, they have worked with Mark Ronson and mostly with the late RIP Sharon Jones, and she was simply marvelous. So maybe here we have a jazzy soul song! if it's something close to Sharon Jones, I'm gonna cry...

 

Very interesting thanks. So maybe we won’t only but finally have juste a good modern pop album but also more deep and out of the box songs. Definitely looking for that one.

 

I take this as a good thing for Liz.Celine finally maybe decided having someone to in a way supervise the whole concept or be sure there would be some coherence. In a way she had JJG or Foster. That could explain also the delay when they saw they could build something with her around a direction. Don’t know. Not a bad sign over the fact that I don’t really have an opinion on her work yet.

[celinesounds]

It's a gift for always-forgotten fans...

Portugal should be the next country with vinyl release date.

 

is off topic, i star thinking that Celine will never do a show in Portugal or Spain, because people cannot afford the price tickets :cry:

[celinesounds]

I thought I was the only one who is sad about it ahah. But I just want to remind everybody that Diane Warren IS :

 

I love you, goodbye

If you asked me to

Love can move mountains

Nothing broken but my heart

Water from the moon :wub:

Lovin' proof

Next plane out

No living without loving you

Real emotion

Because you loved me

These are special times

I want you to need me :wub:

Unfinished songs

 

And for others, she wrote these marvellous songs :

I don't want to miss a thing - Aerosmith

Un-break my heart - Toni Braxton

Can't take that away - Mariah Carey

If I could turn back time - Cher

I learned from the best - Whitney Houston

Can't fight the moonlight & How do I live - LeAnn Rimes

There you'll be - Faith Hill

Music of my heart - *NSYNC & Gloria Estefan

 

And more recently, the WONDERFUL "Only love can hurt like this" and "Leave while I'm not looking" for Paloma Faith, and she also co-wrote "Why did you do that" on the "A star is born" soundtrack...

 

I will miss her for sure...

 

 

and recently she wrote this amazing song

 

[celinesounds]

1. Flying on My Own - PAW LAGERMANN, LINA RAFN, JORGEN ELOFSSON, ANTON MARTENSSON

2. Lovers Never Die

3. Falling in Love Again - SKYLAR GREY

4. Lying Down - TON DIJKMAN, PIERRE-LUC RIOUX, MARCEL SCHIMSCHEIMER, GIORGIO TUINFORT, ELISE DUGUAY

5. Courage - WIRED STRINGS, STEPHAN MOCCIO

6. Imperfections - MICHAEL POLLACK, DALLAS KOEHLKE, ARI LEFF

7. Change My Mind

8. Say Yes

9. Nobody's Watching - JORGEN ELOFSSON, JORGEN ALLERCRANTZ, ANTON MARTENSSON

10. The Chase - CRAIG MCCONNELL

11. For the Lover That I Lost

12. Baby - GREG KURSTIN

13. I Will Be Stronger - EG WHITE

14. How Did You Get Here - IAN HENDRICKSON-SMITH, DAVE GUY, COCHEMEA GASTELUM

15. Look at Us Now - SEAN HURLEY, ROB HUMPHREYS, JARED SCHARFF, ERIC RUSCINSKI, ANDREW WELLS

16. Perfect Goodbye - STEVE AOKI, MAX WOLFGANG

 

 

https://www.amazon.f...g=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Edited October 22, 2019 at 09:58 PM by celinesounds

[kellyfan161]

Had anyone posted the lengths of the tracks - they’re on iTunes

1.Flying On My Own 3:31

2. Lovers never die 2:51

3.Falling in love again 3:51

4. Lying down 3:58

5. Courage 4:14

6.Imperfections 3:59

7. Change my mind 3:01

8. Say yes 3:32

9. Nobody’s watching 3:12

10. The chase 3:49

11. For the lover that I lost 2:54

12. Baby 3:34

13. I will be stronger 3:27

14. How did you get here 4:21

15. Look at us now 3:18

16. Perfect goodbye 3:28

17. Best of all 3:23

18. Heart of glass 3:31

19. Boundaries 3:22

20. The hard way 3:24

[manolo19]

Had anyone posted the lengths of the tracks - they’re on iTunes

1.Flying On My Own 3:31

2. Lovers never die 2:51

3.Falling in love again 3:51

4. Lying down 3:58

5. Courage 4:14

6.Imperfections 3:59

7. Change my mind 3:01

8. Say yes 3:32

9. Nobody’s watching 3:12

10. The chase 3:49

11. For the lover that I lost 2:54

12. Baby 3:34

13. I will be stronger 3:27

14. How did you get here 4:21

15. Look at us now 3:18

16. Perfect goodbye 3:28

17. Best of all 3:23

18. Heart of glass 3:31

19. Boundaries 3:22

20. The hard way 3:24

thank you , they are all pretty short except How did u get here

 

[Nmj]

Had anyone posted the lengths of the tracks - they’re on iTunes

1.Flying On My Own 3:31

2. Lovers never die 2:51

3.Falling in love again 3:51

4. Lying down 3:58

5. Courage 4:14

6.Imperfections 3:59

7. Change my mind 3:01

8. Say yes 3:32

9. Nobody’s watching 3:12

10. The chase 3:49

11. For the lover that I lost 2:54

12. Baby 3:34

13. I will be stronger 3:27

14. How did you get here 4:21

15. Look at us now 3:18

16. Perfect goodbye 3:28

17. Best of all 3:23

18. Heart of glass 3:31

19. Boundaries 3:22

20. The hard way 3:24

 

All these 2 minute tracks... surprising “Courage” is one the longest tracks.

Edited October 22, 2019 at 11:23 PM by Nmj

[kellyfan161]

thank you , they are all pretty short except How did u get here

Yeah I thought the same thing...but not complaining lol cause we’re getting 20 hahaha

[manolo19]

Any tiny bits of infos regarding the album is welcomed thanks to all the fans who search every day here and there for clues, infos, demos, anything related to that album. I'm going crazy with this anticipation , blow us away Celine ! Edited October 22, 2019 at 11:31 PM by manolo19

[marc-02]

Sam Smith wrote a song in Courage! Also, the regular version of the album will be 56:57 long and the deluxe version 70:37.

 

 

1. Flying On My Own

(Liz Rodrigues/Anton Martensson/Jorgen Elofsson)

 

2. Lovers Never Die

(Johan Carlsson/Ross Golan/Daniel Wilson)

 

3. Falling In Love Again

(Skylar Grey/Elliott Taylor)

 

4. Lying Down

(David Guetta/Giorgio Tuinfort/Sia Furler)

 

5. Courage

(Erik Alcock/Liz Rodrigues/Stephan Moccio)

 

6. Imperfections

(Nicholas Perloff-Giles/Lauv/Michael Pollack/DallasK)

 

7. Change My Mind

(Björn Yttling, LP & Jon Levine)

 

8. Say Yes

(Jorgen Elofsson/Liz Rodrigues)

 

9. Nobody’s Watching

(Jorgen Elofsson/Liz Rodrigues)

 

10. The Chase

(Jessica Mitchell/Liz Rodrigues/Craig McConnell)

 

11. For The Lover That I Lost

(Sam Smith, Mikkel S. Eriksen, Tor Erik Hermansen & James Napier)

 

12. Baby

(Sia Furler/Maureen McDonald/Greg Kurstin)

 

13. I Will Be Stronger

(Eg White)

 

14. How Did You Get Here?

(NIKKI GRIER, The Stereotypes, 9AM, Erik Alcock, Liz Rodrigues, Khalil Abdul-Rahman Hazzard & Calum Armand Maurice Brock)

 

15. Look At Us Now

(Steph Jones, Andrew Wells & Brandon Treyshun Campbell)

 

16. Perfect Goodbye

(Max Wolfgang, Freddy Wexler & Corey Sanders)

 

17. Best Of All

(Eg White/Ben Earle)

 

18. Heart Of Glass

(Greg Kurstin/Sia Furler)

 

19. Boundaries

(Maty Noyes/Stephan Moccio)

 

20. The Hard Way

(Jessica Karpov/Whitney Phillips/Greg Wells)

Edited October 23, 2019 at 12:58 AM by marc-02

[kellyfan161]

Ughh I just want like some 30 second snippets, please!! Hahaha - these 3 weeks are dragging lol. Trying not to think about it but I’m just so excited

[kellyfan161]

I hardly buy music except for people I really like...do we get a digital booklet when we purchase albums on iTunes?? I want to be able to look at the booklet while listening at midnight Friday lol Edited October 23, 2019 at 01:23 AM by kellyfan161

[Taking Chances]

and recently she wrote this amazing song

 

https://youtu.be/_Dat9CRV800

 

I love that song! Something like this would be perfect for Celine.

 

I prefer the studio version though.

Edited October 23, 2019 at 01:36 AM by Taking Chances

[GoldenLeaf]

So, this is the photo that Diane Warren posted on Instagram and was mentioned in "Celine" topic. It looks like they recorded a demo or something.

Clearly Diane Warren’ song(s) for Celine did not make the final cut on Courage.

 

http://thepoweroflove-celinedion.blogspot.com/2016/10/celine-dion-with-producer-and-longtime.html?m=0

 

Same thing goes for Linda Perry’ song(s).

Edited October 23, 2019 at 03:44 AM by GoldenLeaf

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

All these 2 minute tracks... surprising “Courage” is one the longest tracks.

 

“All these?” It’s 2 out of 20.

[Javito]

Why is the vinyl on pre-sale in Spain and not in other countries?

 

https://www.fnac.es/a7024359/Celine-Dion-Courage-Vinilo-Disco

 

https://www.amazon.es/Courage-Vinilo-Celine-Dion/dp/B07YVJRNZ9/ref=tmm_vnl_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1571775995&sr=8-1

 

https://www.elcorteingles.es/musica/A32568140-courage-lp-vinilo/

 

Why is she touring everywhere but Spain?

 

We’re getting the vinyl version in exclusive as a compensation

[Javito]

Sam Smith wrote a song in Courage! Also, the regular version of the album will be 56:57 long and the deluxe version 70:37.

 

 

1. Flying On My Own

(Liz Rodrigues/Anton Martensson/Jorgen Elofsson)

 

2. Lovers Never Die

(Johan Carlsson/Ross Golan/Daniel Wilson)

 

3. Falling In Love Again

(Skylar Grey/Elliott Taylor)

 

4. Lying Down

(David Guetta/Giorgio Tuinfort/Sia Furler)

 

5. Courage

(Erik Alcock/Liz Rodrigues/Stephan Moccio)

 

6. Imperfections

(Nicholas Perloff-Giles/Lauv/Michael Pollack/DallasK)

 

7. Change My Mind

(Björn Yttling, LP & Jon Levine)

 

8. Say Yes

(Jorgen Elofsson/Liz Rodrigues)

 

9. Nobody’s Watching

(Jorgen Elofsson/Liz Rodrigues)

 

10. The Chase

(Jessica Mitchell/Liz Rodrigues/Craig McConnell)

 

11. For The Lover That I Lost

(Sam Smith, Mikkel S. Eriksen, Tor Erik Hermansen & James Napier)

 

12. Baby

(Sia Furler/Maureen McDonald/Greg Kurstin)

 

13. I Will Be Stronger

(Eg White)

 

14. How Did You Get Here?

(NIKKI GRIER, The Stereotypes, 9AM, Erik Alcock, Liz Rodrigues, Khalil Abdul-Rahman Hazzard & Calum Armand Maurice Brock)

 

15. Look At Us Now

(Steph Jones, Andrew Wells & Brandon Treyshun Campbell)

 

16. Perfect Goodbye

(Max Wolfgang, Freddy Wexler & Corey Sanders)

 

17. Best Of All

(Eg White/Ben Earle)

 

18. Heart Of Glass

(Greg Kurstin/Sia Furler)

 

19. Boundaries

(Maty Noyes/Stephan Moccio)

 

20. The Hard Way

(Jessica Karpov/Whitney Phillips/Greg Wells)

 

Ohhh the 20 tracks run 70 minutes? Well that leaves space for another 3/4 tracks in the future if they’re less than 3 minutes!

 

Imagine a 24/25 tracks Celine Dion album

[noyau]

 

 

and recently she wrote this amazing song

 

https://youtu.be/_Dat9CRV800

 

Ahah yes I wrote at the end of my message : "And more recently, the WONDERFUL "Only love can hurt like this" and "Leave while I'm not looking" for Paloma Faith, and she also co-wrote "Why did you do that" on the "A star is born" soundtrack..."

 

But thank you for having shared the live video of this masterpiece...

[Javito]

If Celine had recorded Paloma's Only Love Can Hurt Like This she would have smashed radios

[mirage]

Uuughh I miss the days songs will last more than 4 minutes, with amazing intros and outros, more verses than just 1.

 

Ah well things changed I guess.

But I love me some Celine Dion Album 1992

 

Had anyone posted the lengths of the tracks - they’re on iTunes

1.Flying On My Own 3:31

2. Lovers never die 2:51

3.Falling in love again 3:51

4. Lying down 3:58

5. Courage 4:14

6.Imperfections 3:59

7. Change my mind 3:01

8. Say yes 3:32

9. Nobody’s watching 3:12

10. The chase 3:49

11. For the lover that I lost 2:54

12. Baby 3:34

13. I will be stronger 3:27

14. How did you get here 4:21

15. Look at us now 3:18

16. Perfect goodbye 3:28

17. Best of all 3:23

18. Heart of glass 3:31

19. Boundaries 3:22

20. The hard way 3:24

[Jeanette]

Uuughh I miss the days songs will last more than 4 minutes, with amazing intros and outros, more verses than just 1.

 

Ah well things changed I guess.

But I love me some Celine Dion Album 1992

 

Me too! It really is the age of the 3 min pop song. Certainly doesn’t look like we’re getting big “key change at end” ballads 😂 My fear is they’re gonna be too abrupt to finish just like I always thought with Ashes, like somethings missing but mustn’t complain we’re getting 20 songs, I guess.

[Jeanette]

Had anyone posted the lengths of the tracks - they’re on iTunes

1.Flying On My Own 3:31

2. Lovers never die 2:51

3.Falling in love again 3:51

4. Lying down 3:58

5. Courage 4:14

6.Imperfections 3:59

7. Change my mind 3:01

8. Say yes 3:32

9. Nobody’s watching 3:12

10. The chase 3:49

11. For the lover that I lost 2:54

12. Baby 3:34

13. I will be stronger 3:27

14. How did you get here 4:21

15. Look at us now 3:18

16. Perfect goodbye 3:28

17. Best of all 3:23

18. Heart of glass 3:31

19. Boundaries 3:22

20. The hard way 3:24

 

This would seem then that the album run duration times are out, no?! Someone said standard length is at 56.57 mins, adding these up comes to 53.40 mins and for the deluxe at 70.37, all tracks add up to 66.40. There’s still room then for another 3 min pop song apiece 😂

 

Where does it show the run times again, was it on Amazon?

[kellyfan161]

 

 

This would seem then that the album run duration times are out, no?! Someone said standard length is at 56.57 mins, adding these up comes to 53.40 mins and for the deluxe at 70.37, all tracks add up to 66.40. There’s still room then for another 3 min pop song apiece 😂

 

Where does it show the run times again, was it on Amazon?

iTunes

[chy2j]

 

 

nope, on iTunes you don’t get that info, and the info on Amazon is not listed by song, here’s the full list

 

Celine Dion (Interprète), Xavier Stephenson (Autre contribuant), Wessel Oltheten (Autre contribuant), Vlado Meller (Autre contribuant), Tibor Laho (Autre contribuant), Serban Ghenea (Autre contribuant), Ronald Prent (Autre contribuant), Ronald (Rd) Estrada (Autre contribuant), Rob Katz (Autre contribuant), Peppe Folliero (Autre contribuant), Paw Lagermann (Autre contribuant, Artiste), Paul Power (Autre contribuant), Paul Norris (Autre contribuant), Nick Taylor (Autre contribuant), Mattias Bylund (Autre contribuant, Arrangeur), Kylen Deporter (Autre contribuant, Choir), Kevin 'Kd' Davis (Autre contribuant), Julian Burg (Autre contribuant), Jon Yeston (Autre contribuant), John Sinclair (Autre contribuant, Producteur), John Hanes (Autre contribuant), Johan Carlsson (Autre contribuant, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), Joe Zook (Autre contribuant), Jay Paul Bicknell (Autre contribuant, Choir), Greg Kurstin (Autre contribuant, Artiste, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), François Lalonde (Autre contribuant), Dallas Koehlke (Autre contribuant, Compositeur, Auteur, Choir, Interprète), Craig Mcconnell (Autre contribuant, Artiste, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), Carlo Grieco (Autre contribuant), Andrew Wells (Autre contribuant, Artiste, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), Alex Pasco (Autre contribuant), Wired Strings (Artiste), Ton Dijkman (Artiste), Steve Aoki (Artiste, Producteur), Stephan Moccio (Artiste, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Skylar Grey (Artiste, Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Sean Hurley (Artiste), Rob Humphreys (Artiste), Pierre-Luc Rioux (Artiste), Max Wolfgang (Artiste, Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), Lina Rafn (Artiste), Jorgen Elofsson (Artiste, Producteur, Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), Jorgen Allercrantz (Artiste), Jared Scharff (Artiste), Ian Hendrickson-Smith (Artiste), Giorgio Tuinfort (Artiste, Producteur, Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), Eric Ruscinski (Artiste), Elise Duguay (Artiste), Dave Guy (Artiste), Cochemea Gastelum (Artiste), Anton Martensson (Artiste, Compositeur), Ugly Babies (Producteur), Tommy d (Producteur), Tim Blacksmith (Producteur), Stereotypes (Producteur), Stargate (Producteur), Jon Levine (Producteur, Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), John Doelp (Producteur), Jimmy Napes (Producteur), Hybrid (Producteur), Francis "Eg" White (Producteur), Denis Savage (Producteur), David Guetta (Producteur, Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), Danny d (Producteur), Dan Wilson (Producteur, Compositeur, Auteur), Dallask (Producteur), Brian Brundage (Producteur), 9am (Producteur, Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), Tor Hermansen (Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), The Stereotypes (Arrangeur, Compositeur, Auteur), The Dap-Kings (Arrangeur), Rosie Danvers (Arrangeur), Mikkel S. Eriksen (Arrangeur), James Burkholder (Arrangeur), Greg Phillinganes (Arrangeur), Franck Van Der Heijden (Arrangeur), Steph Jones (Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Sia Furler (Compositeur, Auteur), Sam Smith (Compositeur, Auteur), Ross Golan (Compositeur, Auteur), Nikki Grier (Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Nicholas Perloff-Giles (Compositeur, Auteur), Mikkel Eriksen (Compositeur, Auteur), Michael Pollack (Compositeur, Auteur, Choir, Interprète), Maureen "Mozella" Mcdonald (Compositeur, Auteur), Lp (Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Liz Rodrigues (Compositeur, Auteur, Choir), Khalil Abdul-Rahman (Compositeur, Auteur), Jessica Mitchell (Compositeur, Auteur), James Napier (Compositeur, Auteur), Freddy Wexler (Compositeur, Auteur), Erik Alcock (Compositeur, Auteur), Eg White (Compositeur, Auteur, Interprète), Corey Sanders (Compositeur, Auteur), Calum Brockie (Compositeur, Auteur), Brandon Treyshun Campbell (Compositeur, Auteur), Bjorn Yttling (Compositeur, Auteur), Ari Leff (Compositeur, Auteur, Interprète), Sia (Choir), Paris Renita (Choir), Kimberly Jefferson (Choir), Felicia Kure (Choir), Chelsea West (Choir), Alyssa Lourdiz Cantu (Choir), Marcel Schimscheimer (Interprète)

 

Thanks for the info ❤️

[manu23]

If Celine had recorded Paloma's Only Love Can Hurt Like This she would have smashed radios

 

No, she wouldn't. Rather think it this way: if Selena Gomez or Ariana Grande had recorded Imperfections or Ashes they would have been top 40 hits. It doesn't matter how good, current or radio friendly Celine songs are, top 40 stations won't play her and you don't get a radio hit from the support of AC only (and sometimes not even AC support her).

[mirage]

This.

 

It's not a matter anymore if the song is good or not.

It depends on who is singing it.

 

Same here in the Netherlands. They ignore her completely, but if Imperfections was sung by whoever is trendy and hot now. It would be on every radio station.

 

I don't get why they get away with it.

Good music is good music doesn't matter if the artist is 60, 20, man, woman, new or legend.

 

 

 

No, she wouldn't. Rather think it this way: if Selena Gomez or Ariana Grande had recorded Imperfections or Ashes they would have been top 40 hits. It doesn't matter how good, current or radio friendly Celine songs are, top 40 stations won't play her and you don't get a radio hit from the support of AC only (and sometimes not even AC support her).

[Javito]

Maybe she wouldn't be played on radios (and she doesn't need radios), but she can still have a streaming hit like her fellows Cher, Madonna etc.

 

And very few people listens to the radio today, the streaming platforms and YouTube playlists are where listeners are today

Edited October 23, 2019 at 12:16 PM by Javito

[A new day...]

Oops, I just realized I didn't post in the right topic:

 

I made a quick research and we got the snippets for LMBTL on October 19th while the release date of the album was November 1st... I guess we still have to wait for at least 2 more weeks. That wait is killing me!!!

Edited October 23, 2019 at 01:03 PM by A new day...

[Neddo]

If going by writers, there seem to be lots of genres.

LND seems to be pop rock like Pink

FILA seems to be pop folk

CMM indie pop rock

SY pop

NW retropop

TC ballad

FTLIL RnB, soul pop

Baby pop

IWBS ballad like Adele

HDYGH soul jazz

LAUN hiphop

PG pop ballad

BOA soul pop

HOG pop

Boundaries ballad

THW rnb pop rock