"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Chantemoi]

And hes saying “again” so if he believes that many of her previous albums have been that bad, why bother staying on a forum for dedicated fans and bringing others down ?

 

To restore equilibrium maybe?

[Chantemoi]

 

 

Oh you didn't know? Celine has moved onto covering songs on other singers upcoming albums too. Lol. Just kidding...i hope.

 

“Don’t say that!! You’ll make me freak out!!” 😂

[mirage]

So Madonna released her new single. Album cover and tracklist is announced.

Beyonce dropped her album today with her Netflix docu...

 

And where is Celine?

[dawn]

So Madonna released her new single. Album cover and tracklist is announced.

Beyonce dropped her album today with her Netflix docu...

 

And where is Celine?

 

Good question.... where is she?

[comingback]

So Madonna released her new single. Album cover and tracklist is announced.

Beyonce dropped her album today with her Netflix docu...

 

And where is Celine?

Good question.... where is she?

 

Well, Madame Dion is in her bathroom, coloring her hair.

Edited April 17, 2019 at 12:09 PM by comingback

[Moleque20]

Shouline Dijon is waiting!

[Dion2000]

Its good that shes not releasing this week, shes dodged a bullet considering two titans are releasing / have released (Bey and Madonna)

 

Ill be much happier if Celine has like 2 weeks - 3 weeks of unapossed sales

[dawn]

Well, Madame Dion is in her bathroom, coloring her hair.

 

Yep, beacuse she's worth it :sofunny:

[manu23]

Its good that shes not releasing this week, shes dodged a bullet considering two titans are releasing / have released (Bey and Madonna)

 

Ill be much happier if Celine has like 2 weeks - 3 weeks of unapossed sales

 

Celine has nothing to be afraid of, she will outsell Madonna...

 

So it seems one of the new Madonna songs is called *CENSORED* I'm loca... It hurts a bit seeing her trying so hard.

[ordinary fan]

I think the best thing would be to release the first single (flying on my own) on may 14 (start to perform it at the last leg of vegas, it would be out already, when carpool aires)

lot´s of promo for this song and the album anyway

second single right before hyde park (sing it there the first time, along with flying on my own and ashes...)

third single august and several promo shows, appearances in june, july and august, while singing the new singles...

in september release the album...

it´s mybe wishful thinking, but I think it would work well

[guigafs15]

 

 

Celine has nothing to be afraid of, she will outsell Madonna...

 

So it seems one of the new Madonna songs is called *CENSORED* I'm loca... It hurts a bit seeing her trying so hard.

 

All of the olds hitmakers try too hard now. Celine singing Britney Spears's sound like songs on One Heart, Kelly Clarkson's on TC and Sia's on LMBTL is also trying too hard.

 

Is just the way it is...

[ruimarques]

All of the olds hitmakers try too hard now. Celine singing Britney Spears's sound like songs on One Heart, Kelly Clarkson's on TC and Sia's on LMBTL is also trying too hard.

 

Is just the way it is...

 

I quite disagree ....

Celine just spiced up with new sounds each album, but it doesn't make her trying hard at all.

[scielle]

 

I quite disagree ....

Celine just spiced up with new sounds each album, but it doesn't make her trying hard at all.

 

What little we heard of FOMO certainly is!

[manu23]

All of the olds hitmakers try too hard now. Celine singing Britney Spears's sound like songs on One Heart, Kelly Clarkson's on TC and Sia's on LMBTL is also trying too hard.

 

Is just the way it is...

 

One thing is adapting your sound to a more current trend and other is having collaborations with rapers in almost every song. For me that just proves that she doesn't have enough confidence in her name alone anymore. And being 61 and singing a song called Bit** I´m Loca is a bit too much, at least for me.

Edited April 17, 2019 at 02:49 PM by manu23

[Ajax]

Well can we bring some nuances in this "Trying too hard" thing ?

 

We can assume FOMO is from Guetta/Sia... Guetta/Sia always searched for amazing true vocalist whatever they are famous or not. Celine being one of the greatest pop vocalist of all time is totally at her place in this collaboration. Also, those songs are usually like Anthem songs with a generic message about love acceptance and freedom, more or less, and usually in quite a very concensual universe not that much sexualised and not at all transgressive. Once again, Celine is totally right at her place here. Finally, we can assume that this song will be presented in still a very celinish setting, We can assume a music video with Celine in front of a sunset, singing about freedom, hands in the air. Once again, right at her place.

 

Of course we will see some coments about her pushing the thing and trying a bit hard. That's normal, Céline coming from such a corny, classic repertoire and image. There's always amazing vocalist with Guetta/Sia anthem, she's exactly where she should be.

 

Just wanted to bring some nuances as we are comparing with MADONA who thinks that twerking with Minaj, , now trying to be associated with the reggaeton trend, giving big fu*** on TV, showing her #ss while having pink hairs, is the most useful and transgressive thing to do to fight agism.

Edited April 17, 2019 at 03:11 PM by Ajax

[ruimarques]

What little we heard of FOMO certainly is!

 

You cannot judge the whole album only by One song which name is actually not even confirmed.

If you have such a strong feelings about the way how Celine "trying hard" then you should be fan of some other boring artist and don't criticize Celine withou even hearing the rest of the album

[scielle]

 

 

You cannot judge the whole album only by One song which name is actually not even confirmed.

If you have such a strong feelings about the way how Celine "trying hard" then you should be fan of some other boring artist and don't criticize Celine withou even hearing the rest of the album

 

?!?!

...You'll note I clearly said "what little we heard of FOMO".

Stop putting words in my mouth, please.

[Bóól'át'í]

OMG. Give a little criticism and you get told to follow another artist if this or that artist doesn’t give you what you want. Sounds like a childish thing to say.

 

Let people give their opinions whether you agree with them or not. After all, this is a forum, right?

 

[Javito]

It's useless to keep a conversation when it's all about prudish, narrow-minded or just fans that one day they seem living in the XXV century and the next day in the XV, bitching all the time others because they're blindly thinking whatever Celine does (or doesn't do, better said) is always BEST

 

They see the scandal on Madonna doing her thing with the title of a new song -like she's always done- and that's "too much" but when Céline keeps 6 years without releasing any new music in English to me that's probably "too little"

 

And what's the problem with Madonna here now? What has to do the title of a song here with Celine? Let her do her thing, which is what she's doing as a singer and recording artist. The point made is that she has released a single and tracklist, the point is that we've seen all the big names releasing albums all these years and once again we keep waiting for Celine's. I'd rather have Madonna daring to do what she wants and always truth to her provocative style than Celine doing nothing when it comes to new English music for 6 years and counting. And God knows when Madonna releases a new album and single, the world knows AND she promotes it to the max wherever she goes.

 

The difference between Madonna and Celine is that Madonna always goes one step further and has no fear to fail or disappoint, whereas Celine it's always one step further and two backwards, and that's why her albums haven't gone anywhere nor haven't left any legacy since 2002 (contrary to Madonna, which has always had at least one single that has generated impact when not been a success again in radios and clubs).

 

Also, we all know Madonna prioritises all the album making process over the live performance, while Celine is the contrary, she rushes the recording and she wants to tour before giving new music.

 

Let's see how much of the new album Celine will release is really "new" and "fresh" and how many songs from it she takes on tour...

Edited April 17, 2019 at 04:51 PM by Javito

[ruimarques]

?!?!

...You'll note I clearly said "what little we heard of FOMO".

Stop putting words in my mouth, please.

 

 

Ok rephrasing myself:

"You cannot judge the whole album only by a short sneak peak of the song which name is actually not even confirmed. ..."

[scielle]

 

 

 

Ok rephrasing myself:

"You cannot judge the whole album only by a short sneak peak of the song which name is actually not even confirmed. ..."

 

...Which I DID NOT and WOULD NOT, so I don't know what you're talking about.

[Critiaslux]

Comparing Madonna and Celine is like comparing apples and oranges.

 

One is about voice. The other about constant renewal.

 

Hence for Celine case, just like Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, or Edith Piaf, it is about presenting the voice in updated context but not about being trendsetter. Hence the sound of LMBTL album is different from the Unison ones. Ashes is a good example: classic ballad but with contemporary sound.

When her songs are the best is when they have a timeless feeling.

Her main issue maybe since 2002 is not to have been able to generate such freshed up classic sound.

 

Madonna on the contrary is about renewal of sound, and was good at being the first at releasing to the general public underground music or fashion.

Her issue maybe since 2006 is that instead of being the trendsetter she follows trend (e.g. 7 minutes was the least Madonnaesque sound but more a Timbaland song).

Edited April 17, 2019 at 05:01 PM by Critiaslux

[ruimarques]

What little we heard of FOMO certainly is!

?!?!

...You'll note I clearly said "what little we heard of FOMO".

Stop putting words in my mouth, please.

...Which I DID NOT and WOULD NOT, so I don't know what you're talking about.

 

 

Am I the only one who thinks that your post - , stating "What little we heard of FOMO certainly is!" on my defence that Celine is not trying hard to follow or copy current trends - is quite judgmental?

[CSCfan]

 

1. do we even know IF the song is called "flying on my own", or it is just a guess??

 

 

No... it could also be titled "Baby".

 

2. OR even if it will actually BE the new single from the new album (which according to celine herself, will not be released BEFORE NOVEMBER, & in the past of celines music career, celine & company had NEVER released a new single 7-8 months before the albums release... the EARLIEST she had ever released a new single before the album itself was 1-2 months!!) so going by celines album & single release history, may is WAYYY too early for a new single to be released if the album is not due until sometime in november... just saying...

 

Céline also said there will be a single BEFORE Summer. And they officially advertised the album is coming in the "Fall". That could mean anytime between late September and late December.

 

Also, she has done it before... 'Parler a mon pere' was released early July, while the album ('Sans attendre') was released in November too.

 

3. & how we even know if its an ACTUAL song that will be on the new album & not just an "advertising snippet" of a song for that tour commercial, just like back in 2002/2003 when she had that song "LIVE TO LOVE" or whatever it was called on the "celine dion perfumes" commercial (for those who have NO IDEA what i am talking about, it was the one with celine on a swing in a lavendar colored dress & flowers in her hair...) & i remember that nobody has yet to hear the whole song, it was ONLY in that commercial, & who even knows if celine had ever recorded THAT WHOLE SONG or not, i guess we all will never know about that one too lol...

 

We don't, but it makes sense as it's used in the video. And we have Sia tweeting about Céline nailing "Baby" (could be about this song, could be about another). Also Céline's comments during the LA event clearly indicated it was an actual (and new) song.

 

BUT a lot is still speculation, so we'll see what happens

[pat200]

so what if celine tries to follow trends? i am sure she also has songs that are the celine type of songs we love, but i also love when she has some new songs that are different than what the general public expects of her. i think this album will have different sounds to please many tastes, which is the case of all her albums. now just give us that album pls Edited April 17, 2019 at 05:21 PM by pat200

[GoldenLeaf]

Based on the snippet, IMO Flying On My Own will be Celine’s most catchiest single I Drove All Night (if FOMO is the new single of course). I don’t understand why some people are saying she’s trying too hard, you want her to release boring songs like Recovering and Ashes ? Edited April 17, 2019 at 06:16 PM by GoldenLeaf

[scielle]

Am I the only one who thinks that your post - , stating "What little we heard of FOMO certainly is!" on my defence that Celine is not trying hard to follow or copy current trends - is quite judgmental?

 

Huh?

It's called an opinion. Referring solely and clearly to a 15-sec snippet.

For you to put words in my mouth and extrapolate it to the entire song, nay, the entire album, is offensive.

 

And, if your reaction to an opinion that what little we heard is derivative is to blatantly tell me to go away, perhaps you need a thicker skin. I'm not here to be a blind sheep and am certainly not obligated to fawn over everything she does. Anyone with some degree of maturity should be able to appreciate that.

[ruimarques]

Based on the snippet, IMO Flying On My Own will be Celine's most catchiest single I Drove All Night (if FOMO is the new single of course). I don't understand why some people are saying she's trying too hard, you want her to release boring songs like Recovering and Ashes ?

 

 

Amaen Sister

[pat200]

Based on the snippet, IMO Flying On My Own will be Celine's most catchiest single I Drove All Night (if FOMO is the new single of course). I don't understand why some people are saying she's trying too hard, you want her to release boring songs like Recovering and Ashes ?

 

yea the snippet is extremely promising!!

[ruimarques]

Huh?

It's called an opinion. Referring solely and clearly to a 15-sec snippet.

For you to put words in my mouth and extrapolate it to the entire song, nay, the entire album, is offensive.

 

And, if your reaction to an opinion that what little we heard is derivative is to blatantly tell me to go away, perhaps you need a thicker skin. I'm not here to be a blind sheep and am certainly not obligated to fawn over everything she does. Anyone with some degree of maturity should be able to appreciate that.

 

It's also just "an opinion" of mine ... but your post had quite a judgmental vibe .. that's all. I do'n know you so I have nothing against you ..