"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Ajax]

I'll literally vomit if that hideous released version of TSMGO is on the album. It is the most awfully produced and biggest disappointment. No way could she have listened to that and said 'yep, sounds good' before it was released. Hideous.

 

I would vomit too. And I mean, with ALL the songs she recorded the last 2/3 years, that would make no sense.

 

But above all I'm very concerned about the new production issues Céline is facing recently. Aren't Humberto and Scott Price behind TSMGO as well as some songs on Encore un soir, especially Ordinaire ? This rampage really needs to stop.

[isurrender]

As they are more or less linked (they sang together, they are both on same level career-wise), Andrea Bocelli has released his new album this week.

 

And it features duets with Ed Sheeran and Dua Lipa. Nothing less than 2 of the most streamed male and female artists.

 

Take this blow, Céline's team. But mostly : learn.

 

Who are we going to end up with this time ? Already yawning ...

[Nmj]

I love "Ashes" too.

It updated her sound but still sounds like Céline.

It would be pretty absurd to not have it on the album (why would they not? It's the biggest song she's had in a while)

 

Because it shouldn’t be on the album. The song could be 2 years old or more by the time the album is released.

I’m hoping for No “Ashes”, “How Does A Moment Last Forever”, “Recovering”, or “The Show Must Go On”. They all had their time to shine, all released separately on their own, to include them now would just be lazy at this point. Some how I have a bad feeling 3 out of 4 these will be on the new album tho I hope I’m wrong.

Edited November 2, 2018 at 05:02 PM by Nmj

[Tom_London_Fan]

As they are more or less linked (they sang together, they are both on same level career-wise), Andrea Bocelli has released his new album this week.

 

And it features duets with Ed Sheeran and Dua Lipa. Nothing less than 2 of the most streamed male and female artists.

 

Take this blow, Céline's team. But mostly : learn.

 

Who are we going to end up with this time ? Already yawning ...

 

I love Andrea Bocelli, with all my heart. I’ve seen him three times live, and he’s absolutely incredible. But he is absolutely not on the same level as Celine (career wise). I don’t think people seem to understand how rare the level of international success Celine has had. There’s very few...and I mean VERY few people of her stature. Andrea is great, but in no way comparable.

 

I must agree though that a few collaborations with younger, more viable current stars would do her wonders. But I’m glad she’s not putting herself out there to duet with anybody or everybody. She’s acheived a status that these younger stars could only ever dream of.

[Tom_London_Fan]

I’m in two minds with regards to releasing unreleased material.

 

I personally as a big fan would adore to hear these unreleased tracks, or some new Live content. However, if an artist like Celine doesn’t release new material after a while, they believe it will increase demand for when the new material arrives. (The new album).

 

Adele is marvellous at this, she’ll release a marvellous new album...then bam...nothing for years. The time in between releases creates a thirst in the industry for new material, ultimately leading to more streams and sales when a new album does come out.

 

I think it’s difficult to please the die hard fans who want something new all the time, and the people who are just checking out her new music and hopefully streaming it.

 

I completely agree that more should have been down since the last album to please her English fans, but I understand why they have done it. For an artist to do well in the charts and to sell well, oversaturating the market with material only die hard fans will listen to, isn’t necessarily going to help Celine’s sales and streaming when a new album comes out.

 

May I mention that keeping people waiting is only a good thing if ultimately you release something spectacular and worth waiting for. That’s why I’m hoping this new English album has been worth the wait. We heard that a lot during the LMBTL era...”the wait is over” “she’s back”...and personally I don’t think that album was strong enough to justify a 6 year waiting period.

 

I see both sides of the argument, and both have valid points

Edited November 2, 2018 at 05:21 PM by Tom_London_Fan

[smw]

 

 

I love Andrea Bocelli, with all my heart. I’ve seen him three times live, and he’s absolutely incredible. But he is absolutely not on the same level as Celine (career wise). I don’t think people seem to understand how rare the level of international success Celine has had. There’s very few...and I mean VERY few people of her stature. Andrea is great, but in no way comparable.

 

I must agree though that a few collaborations with younger, more viable current stars would do her wonders. But I’m glad she’s not putting herself out there to duet with anybody or everybody. She’s acheived a status that these younger stars could only ever dream of.

 

Agreed! Celine draws people from all over the world to her shows — and she’s one of those very few living legends who people want to say “I got the chance to see her live!”

 

I like him too but it’s blatanly clear that Bocceli is just trying to stay relevant / sell albums with these collaborations.

 

So it’s tricky! I don’t want Celine to come across as desperate. But I’d love a smartly chosen collaboration. Like Adele, Annie Lennox (not a new artist, but another legend!), someone like that...

[isurrender]

I love Andrea Bocelli, with all my heart. I've seen him three times live, and he's absolutely incredible. But he is absolutely not on the same level as Celine (career wise). I don't think people seem to understand how rare the level of international success Celine has had. There's very few...and I mean VERY few people of her stature. Andrea is great, but in no way comparable.

 

I must agree though that a few collaborations with younger, more viable current stars would do her wonders. But I'm glad she's not putting herself out there to duet with anybody or everybody. She's acheived a status that these younger stars could only ever dream of.

 

By level, I meant "situation", not "status". He is 60, into A/C audience ( beside opera), more of an album artist, not played on radio and had his prime in the 90s.

 

It's not even a matter of getting another success ,but being open to more modern sounds and what is being doing today.

[Tom_London_Fan]

 

 

By level, I meant "situation", not "status". He is 60, into A/C audience ( beside opera), more of an album artist, not played on radio and had his prime in the 90s.

 

It's not even a matter of getting another success ,but being open to more modern sounds and what is being doing today.

 

Very good point, exploring new sounds is always a good thing!

[CelinesDIVO5]

As they are more or less linked (they sang together, they are both on same level career-wise), Andrea Bocelli has released his new album this week.

 

And it features duets with Ed Sheeran and Dua Lipa. Nothing less than 2 of the most streamed male and female artists.

 

Take this blow, Céline's team. But mostly : learn.

 

Who are we going to end up with this time ? Already yawning ...

 

Are you saying she should have been on Andrea’s album or that she should collaborate with the likes of Ed and Dua?

[CSCfan]

I would vomit too. And I mean, with ALL the songs she recorded the last 2/3 years, that would make no sense.

 

But above all I'm very concerned about the new production issues Céline is facing recently. Aren't Humberto and Scott Price behind TSMGO as well as some songs on Encore un soir, especially Ordinaire ? This rampage really needs to stop.

 

Scott wasn't behind TSMGO.

 

On EUS, Humberto & Scott were behind the production of 'Je nous veux', 'Ordinaire', Toutes ces choses', 'À la plus haute branche' and 'Ma force'.

 

"Rampage"

Stop being so dramatic.... Yes I also dislike the way they mix her voice now, but it's not a choice that is taken by 1 person..

Edited November 2, 2018 at 06:52 PM by CSCfan

[mirage]

You can't tell me that there is no other artist who wants to do a duet with Celine.

 

How come we only get duets with old almost dead, or already dead people?!

 

Back in the 90s they missed a lot of great duet partners.

 

And here Andrea sings with Ed and Dua Lipa. Not saying those are the best duet partners but they are current and thats important.

 

But no, celine will go for a Ne-YoWho?

 

As they are more or less linked (they sang together, they are both on same level career-wise), Andrea Bocelli has released his new album this week.

 

And it features duets with Ed Sheeran and Dua Lipa. Nothing less than 2 of the most streamed male and female artists.

 

Take this blow, Céline's team. But mostly : learn.

 

Who are we going to end up with this time ? Already yawning ...

[CSCfan]

How come we only get duets with old almost dead, or already dead people?!

 

 

Isn't it obvious by now?

Céline simply and only has a thing for older guys.

 

#thatsthewayitis

Edited November 2, 2018 at 07:12 PM by CSCfan

[Nmj]

 

 

Isn't it obvious by now?

Céline simply and only has a thing for older guys.

 

#thatsthewayitis

 

Well if she’s got a thing for Pepe maybe we’ll be getting that Sam Smith duet.

[maki_Dion-er]

 

Well if she’s got a thing for Pepe maybe we’ll be getting that Sam Smith duet.

 

(looks around)

what? no comment from Tricey yet?

 

Lol, I'm just teasing tricey. Don't feel bad.

 

I'd like a duet with someone who is big at the moment but unexpected. The only mainstream duets I would love is Adele and Sia, other than them I would rather Celine go for unexpected collabs. Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran, meh.

Just no Cardi B, please 😄

 

 

[Nmj]

 

 

(looks around)

what? no comment from Tricey yet?

 

Lol, I'm just teasing tricey. Don't feel bad.

 

I'd like a duet with someone who is big at the moment but unexpected. The only mainstream duets I would love is Adele and Sia, other than them I would rather Celine go for unexpected collabs. Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran, meh.

Just no Cardi B, please 😄

 

I’d love a duet with...

 

1. Ed Sheeran

2. Bruno Mars

 

Or a vocal showdown with 3. Ariana Grande.

[your_light]

I’d love a duet with...

 

1. Ed Sheeran

2. Bruno Mars

 

Or a vocal showdown with 3. Ariana Grande.

 

Hell no! I don't want Celine to collab with any teenybopper "artist"... Only Bruno Mars would be a very slightly tolerable duet out of that selection. I honestly can't think of any current artists that would even be worthy of collaborating with Celine (it probably would have to be another legacy artist).

Edited November 2, 2018 at 08:44 PM by your_light

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Hell no! I don't want Celine to collab with any teenybopper "artist"... Only Bruno Mars would be a very slightly tolerable duet out of that selection. I honestly can't think of any current artists that would even be worthy of collaborating with Celine (it probably would have to be another legacy artist).

 

 

I wouldn’t exactly call Ed Sheeran a “teeny bopper.” Lol

Edited November 2, 2018 at 08:46 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[your_light]

I wouldn't exactly call Ed Sheeran a "teeny bopper." Lol

 

I'm not calling them teenyboppers but rather those are the artists teenyboppers listen to these days.

[Nmj]

 

 

Hell no! I don't want Celine to collab with any teenybopper "artist"... Only Bruno Mars would be a very slightly tolerable duet out of that selection. I honestly can't think of any current artists that would even be worthy of collaborating with Celine (it probably would have to be another legacy artist).

 

“ teenybopper”?

 

If you’re referring to Ariana Grande, must I remind you that many called Celine the same after her American debut of “Beauty and The Beast”.

[Nmj]

 

 

I'm not calling them teenyboppers but rather those are the artists teenyboppers listen to these days.

 

Well that logic that leaves us with Cher and Tony Bennett.

[your_light]

Well that logic that leaves us with Cher and Tony Bennett.

 

Two s*** artists then lol. Cher is an abomination who's only contribution to the music industry is making over-use of auto-tune popular, besides she hasn't been relevant since that "I Believe" song.

Edited November 2, 2018 at 09:03 PM by your_light

[Nmj]

 

 

Two s*** artists then lol

 

Legends.

Defiantly not s*** artists just who are ancient.

[maki_Dion-er]

 

 

I’d love a duet with...

 

1. Ed Sheeran

2. Bruno Mars

 

Or a vocal showdown with 3. Ariana Grande.

 

Bruno would be fun and interesting. Ariana...eh,there's something about her voice that I don't like, she lacks emotion imo...something. Celine should duet with people that either bring something new in comparison to her voice & style or that can at least keep up/measure up to her, I don't think Ariana does either. Celine would eat her up vocally.

Edited November 2, 2018 at 09:16 PM by maki_Dion-er

[your_light]

I'm not a fan of Bruno by any means but from what I've heard on the radio his songs seems much better musically (even if it's pretty derivative) than most of the other stuff I've heard.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Two s*** artists then lol. Cher is an abomination who's only contribution to the music industry is making over-use of auto-tune popular, besides she hasn't been relevant since that "I Believe" song.

 

Cher’s synth vocal effect was not auto tune, it was a vocoder. Auto tune is used to correct the pitch of one’s voice, ala Britney Spears.

[Nmj]

 

 

Bruno would be fun and interesting. Ariana...eh,there's something about her voice that I don't like, she lacks emotion imo...something. Celine should duet with people that either bring something new in comparison to her voice & style or that can at least keep up/measure up to her, I don't think Ariana does either. Celine would eat her up vocally.

 

I respectfully dissagree. I think Ariana Grande has a beautiful voice. Do I think it’s at Celine’s level; NO WAY but I can’t think of anyone who is at there moment. I think a duet with Ariana would be huge, Ariana and her team are brilliant at marketing, I think since she’s a fan of Celine she would really push it as a single and promote it like crazy. At most importantly, I think a song between has a chance of being one of really good quality. I think it would help both careers for the better. It’s like that Celine/Babs moment of passing the torch to embrace the younger artists. Just my opinion.

[smw]

Loving these duet ideas!

 

Sam Smith

Adele

Annie Lennox

Bruner Mars

Shania Twain

Katy Perry

Coldplay

 

 

So many great choices that would capture some big attention!

 

Not to mention young, trendy artists like Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, twenty one Pilots, etc have voiced loving Celine.

[stevo]

 

 

I respectfully dissagree. I think Ariana Grande has a beautiful voice. Do I think it’s at Celine’s level; NO WAY but I can’t think of anyone who is at there moment. I think a duet with Ariana would be huge, Ariana and her team are brilliant at marketing, I think since she’s a fan of Celine she would really push it as a single and promote it like crazy. At most importantly, I think a song between has a chance of being one of really good quality. I think it would help both careers for the better. It’s like that Celine/Babs moment of passing the torch to embrace the younger artists. Just my opinion.

 

I’d like a duet with Ariana and yep- would be like a Céline Barbra moment. Problem is I can’t understand a word Ariana sings- so muffled and terrible at enouncing anything. Might as well be humming the words to bye bye Blackbird - I can’t hear what she says. Maybe my old ears

[CelinesDIVO5]

Loving these duet ideas!

 

Sam Smith

Adele

Annie Lennox

Bruner Mars

Shania Twain

Katy Perry

Coldplay

 

 

So many great choices that would capture some big attention!

 

Not to mention young, trendy artists like Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, twenty one Pilots, etc have voiced loving Celine.

 

Please, not Shania...and definitely not Katy. I’m all about newer artists, but should be one who can sing. Shania has IMO lost much of what she had. I thought even the auto tuned playback from her Vegas show sounded super dull. The actual show upstaged her. No good. And Katy...well, just youtube her singing live.

[Nmj]

 

 

Please, not Shania...and definitely not Katy. I’m all about newer artists, but should be one who can sing. Shania has IMO lost much of what she had. I thought even the auto tuned playback from her Vegas show sounded super dull. The actual show upstaged her. No good. And Katy...well, just youtube her singing live.

 

Are you against the Ariana Grande idea as well? Just courious your thoughts on that’?