"Courage" album - Official Topic

[manu23]

I’m not obsessed with anything (if anyone is obsessed in this forum we all know who that is). I’m just congruent in my arguments. It just surprises me how easily you can praise others for doing covers, going on tour with same setlists as they have in their Vegas show, or doing playback, but Celine never does good in your eyes. Now Shania is an artist and Celine just a “singer”, maybe Celine needs to stay 15 years without releasing a new album for you to treat her with some more respect.

 

Hope my comment didn’t sound as if I was bashing Shania, she is one of my favorite artists, but Celine works much harder and gives much more to her fans, that’s a fact.

[scielle]

Thanks for the intel, KCM!

 

This, I found particularly interesting -

Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip.

 

Goes to show once again - she's very attuned to people and has shown she knows how to surround herself with the right ones. Plus she's nobody's pawn and I think far more involved in everything - both business but especially creatively - than a lot of people give her credit for.

 

For all the moaning about the EUS video not being released, I believe bottom line is she didn't think it did the song justice and put her foot down. And I support that all the way. People who believe in what they're doing stick to it, even if it's an unpopular decision. (Hello, Xavier Dolan, who cut Jessica Chastain (!) from his big English debut because it ultimately didn't fit his creative vision.)

I totally salute that.

(And frankly, the little we saw of the EUS video was kinda 'meh' so I understand her decision to nix it.)

[ordinary fan]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

this makes me really excited about what the future will bring, thank´s a lot posting this, because of those posts it´s good to visit the forum

[Javito]

I'm not obsessed with anything (if anyone is obsessed in this forum we all know who that is). I'm just congruent in my arguments. It just surprises me how easily you can praise others for doing covers, going on tour with same setlists as they have in their Vegas show, or doing playback, but Celine never does good in your eyes. Now Shania is an artist and Celine just a "singer", maybe Celine needs to stay 15 years without releasing a new album for you to treat her with some more respect.

 

Hope my comment didn't sound as if I was bashing Shania, she is one of my favorite artists, but Celine works much harder and gives much more to her fans, that's a fact.

 

Oh dear, the "congruent" fan who only comes here to answer back me and only bases his "points" in figures and playback and a legend status Céline already got by 2002

 

The congruent fan who masters in twisting what has been said in order to deviate and manipulate what is being discussed :rolleyes:

 

1) I never criticised Céline for using playback in my whole life as a fan. I never cared when she used it since I can't notice it most of the times. It's true I recently was disappointed when I learnt she used some playback in one of my favourite concerts of her, the Olympia 1994. But as long as she uses playback to preserve her voice, I'm okay with it. And she'll have to use it increasingly, if she's tired of singing the same songs

 

2) I never said a word about Shania's tours after Vegas, I didn't follow that nor I care what she did. I'm not a Shania die-hard fan, but I loved the Vegas show she released on DVD some years ago, and I still find it just BRILLIANT. So don't put words in my mouth I never said nor events I never compared Céline with.

 

3) Who did I praise for doing covers? You mean the posts I dedicated to Anastacia the other day? Dear, I thought I made it clear that day... Anastacia ONLY released ONE album of covers. Exclusively dedicated to covers. And that's it. The end. No more covers. All her albums are ORIGINAL songs written by her. For one album Anastacia does with covers, she's a "covers singer" now??? LOL For one album that Anastacia did with covers, Céline has released 25 with covers on every of them.

 

Your comment it's not that it sounds like you were bashing Shania, but you did bashed and ridiculed Anastacia the other day, when she has nothing to be jeaulous of Céline.

 

I think you have some problem with reading at this point...

Edited November 3, 2018 at 04:35 PM by Javito

[ryba]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us! it really brought a lot of light to the darkness. It’s nice to know what’s going on, cause this awful silence was horrible.

[CSchmidt]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

:mbounce: :mbounce:

[ryba]

However, I don’t really want her to scrap the other songs. Do a deluxe album with a bonus CD or release a double album, but release all songs in some form

[zuv]

Most interesting part i think. I don't know how legit this information is, but its a good read for sure lol. If that's true, I like RC more now

 

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

[CSchmidt]

However, I don't really want her to scrap the other songs. Do a deluxe album with a bonus CD or release a double album, but release all songs in some form

Yes, or like D'elles and On Ne Change Pas, with a dvd in deluxe edition in a digipack.

[CSchmidt]

#CHARLESMITO2018

Why i posted this? kkkkkkkkkkkk But, i can't wait to listen the new album!!!

[Critiaslux]

Céline never totally chose this Vegas adventure

 

Sorry but this is wrong.

 

I do not know if Céline wanted, or did not want the 2011's Céline show, or the length of it, but actually Céline is the one who initiated the whole process after she saw Le Cirque du Soleil's O.

 

She was so moved and enthusiastic with that kind of show that, artistically, she then wanted something different from a simple concert. She wanted to offer a theatrical experience like she never did before. Vegas was in the talks before RC's birth. René "simply" (more accurately: geniously) found the ways to make Céline's desire happening.

 

And she was so right with her vision. And René was so good to make it happen.

 

As now Céline is right to put an end to it to tackle a new chapter in her life and legendary career.

Edited November 3, 2018 at 05:33 PM by Critiaslux

[smw]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

 

This is all so wonderful to read.

 

Celine getting back to basics and recording modern versions of her CLASSIC sound is the PERFECT way to have a big comeback. It's been TOO LONG since we've had new legendary Celine songs. ASHES is the closest we've had in her English career. Celine staying true to who she is is the COOLEST / TRENDIEST thing she can do anyways. It's obvious that the younger generation RESPECTS her for who she is. No need to try to sound like anybody but her own legendary self. She's one of the few remaining Icons who CAN STILL SING and she will hopefully be able to for decades to come just like BABS.

 

SO EXCITED!!!!

[zuv]

I can wait another year or 2 and she comes back with great power ballads like : TPOL, ANDHC, ABM, NPO and so on...

 

Hopefully David Foster was there for Celine's new album when Stephan Moccio took a instagram story with him

[scielle]

Most interesting part i think. I don't know how legit this information is, but its a good read for sure lol. If that's true, I like RC more now

 

It may not be his go-to genre, but I think RC has huge respect for what she does. He wasn't there when Celine was the "guilty pleasure". And unlike Celine's contemporaries in the 90s, his generation of pop artists unabashedly worship Celine (I mean, Drake doesn't bow to just anybody! )

So yeah, I can totally see RC saying "just do what you do best; no need to try to be another Ariana / Sia / Whoever because people love you for who you are".

[Dion2000]

I love how everyones taking this as if Celine said it herself on record lol.

 

Considering how much false information and rumours people like to spread (especially on forums like this) why is everyone so.... gullible

 

To me this just sounds like someones written down THEIR fantasy and is trying for some attention

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

No idea if Shania used autotune?! If the cd/ live release is anything to go by, she certainly did. Absolutely horrific sounding.

 

Plus she was boring to watch. I was super disappointed. Her twin backup singers outshined her. The show going on around her was far more entertaining. It didn’t make her shine.

[CelinesDIVO5]

SPOILER ALERT FOR THE NEW ALBUM. Celine has scrapped most of the songs she started recording back when Aldo was her manager and has pretty much started from scratch. Believe it or not but RC has been instrumental in encouraging her to go back to her roots and not try to sound like the new kids out there. When he saw her perform MHWGO at the Billboard awards and saw the overwhelming positive reaction she got, he told his mom that not only were her older fans AMAZED but so were the younger ones. After the failure of LMBTL Aldo, and has I have read many of your comments have blamed the lack of promotion but she did do promotion at the beginning on popular shows including "The View" Jimmy Kimmel, Ellen and the X-Factor. And guess what the album failed all the same.And the reason was that her long time fans did not buy it because it did not sound like the Celine they loved, and the younger ones who heard it did not like it either. The songs were hand me downs from young singers who rejected them. Did any of you enjoy her so called "bedroom voice". If you had she would sing in that style now but she does not. That was a reality check. But because Rene got sick and passed she continued to work with Aldo out of respect for Rene's faith in him. It was not a fit. Celine is a hard headed Quebecoise who will not take orders from a man whom she quickly saw as a third rate Rene on a power trip. Celine is first and foremost a power house voice and a great entertainer, not a manufactured product that will sell records but be forgotten quickly as opposed to someone like Celine who can still pack arenas all over the world. As John Farnham so astutely said onstage in Sydney, people come to hear her sing and not because she has dancers and wild production values that distract from the fact that many young singers today are autotuned and not nearly as talented. Some of you use Cher or Madonna as examples of singers that have successfully reinvented themselves over the years but let's be honest Cher has not reinvented anything, she has gone all the way back to her 60's 70's and 80's persona in her shows (in other words what her fans love) She had great success in 1999 with Believe but remember back then CDs actually sold very well because there was no other medium. Unless you're Adele, you're lucky if an album sells a million copies. The days of a singer like Celine selling 250 million albums are LONG GONE. BTW I know all of this because I was born in Montreal where my whole family still lives and my sister-in-law who is a huge Celine fan has an old college friend who now works for Celine and tolfd her these things and she would have ZERO reason to lie. So expect very familiar songwriters and producers who have been responsible for her biggest hits participating on this album. I was told the album will contain many power ballads, some refreshing yet old school dance numbers with people who are tried and true. For those of you hoping that Celine will try to appeal solely to a younger audience forget about it. She is going back to what she does best and what her older fans have been missing. You know the kind of fan who still buy the whole album and if she gains the respect of a newer generation who will hear real talent and not style over substance that's a bonus. Celine is not 25 or thirty anymore and she should not try to be. Barbra S had her biggest comeback at that age when David Foster produced The Broadway album after flops when she tried to be 'hip' in the early eighties. She did a disco album for crying out loud. She sold millions of albums and won tons of awards for simply and beautifully going back to her roots. I don't know when it will be released but I was told it won't be until Celine is satisfied it is the absolute best it can be. On another note Celine did not reniew her contract with Caesars because she is sick of it despite the fact that they offered her a lot more money because other venues started a bidding war to get her. Celine is not just the Queen of Vegas because she has been there so long and still sells out but because she is the only artist there who has fans come in droves from all over the world, and would not be caught dead in Vegas without her and those are fans who have money to spend. That's the bottom line after all. She is bored out of her mind and prefers touring where the energy level is high and something she feeds off of. So she is not retiring.

 

Sorry...no. You proved yourself to be rubbish within the first 5 sentences of your post.

[maki_Dion-er]

I love how everyones taking this as if Celine said it herself on record lol.

 

Considering how much false information and rumours people like to spread (especially on forums like this) why is everyone so.... gullible

 

To me this just sounds like someones written down THEIR fantasy and is trying for some attention

 

Seriously. I don't know who this KCM person is but it's the first time I see them post here and they come in with a "friend of a friend" type story, and everyone is believing it because it says literally everything some here have been hoping for and complaining about. This comes across a lot like the "news" we got back in August from so called inside sources saying we'd have a new music video and single out in the first week of September.

 

I'd be very very skeptical of all that was said in that post.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Well said. Don't bother with it, Manu is only obsessed with who's singing live and who's not, who's using the more playback on a show and who's using only raw vocals, but he can't see beyond this (sadly)

 

Luckily Shania doesn't need to prove she's an ARTIST with all its letters, whereas Celine is a SINGER with all its letters, but far from what one could call a complete artist.

 

Shania doesn't need to prove she can sing. And besides that, her level of involvement in EVERY aspect of her shows is unquestionable, something Céline could only dream of btw Shania writes her songs, produces, plays her instruments and when she tours she is part of every concept and

(she even won an award for the use she gave to scents in her Vegas show!!)

 

Sorry, but voice is not everything on a show.

 

Shania’s ex husband predominantly wrote most of her catalog. The songs she wrote on her own for her latest album unfortunately don’t even hold a candle to what Mutt Lange was able to write for her. He’s a pig for cheating on her, but he was definitely much more talented in the songwriting department.

[Dion2000]

 

 

Shania’s ex husband predominantly wrote most of her catalog. The songs she wrote on her own for her latest album unfortunately don’t even hold a candle to what Mutt Lange was able to write for her. He’s a pig for cheating on her, but he was definitely much more talented in the songwriting department.

 

 

THE TEA IS REAL. Also the shade at the end......

 

 

But yes. Even Celines very rarely self written/ co written tracks sound better than 90% of NOW

[Tom_London_Fan]

Shania’s great and I feel sorry for everything she went through, I remember reading about how she thought she’d never sing again...and she seems such a lovely grounded woman. However, making comparisons between her and the vocal Titan that is Celine Dion seems a big stretch of the imagination. I did see her live in Vegas, her voice isn’t auto tuned live but the post-production work on her DVD release was definitely pitch-corrected, they tried to do it subtly but it was quite obvious at parts. After seeing her show, I have to agree that she was swallowed up by her own creation. Sure, it’s great that she was more involved in the production aspects but let’s remember, Celine had one of the biggest productions ever seen in Vegas with A New Day and at no point did I feel the productions outshone her god given talent and charisma. For what Celine lacks in creativeness she more than makes up for it with that legendary voice and her presence. Drawing parallels between Celine Dion and Shania Twain is unfair, well....unfair to Shania. She’s great at what she does, but she’s certainly no Celine Dion.

[Xpresso]

That's also what I think. Mutt was the artist behind Shania. He was already a mega producer before he met Shania!

Now she is just a singer, and Céline is the artist.

Céline makes decisions... we might not always like her decisions but she's still the boss!

[scielle]

I'm sorry, but I won't even read that entire thing. I normally don't respond in this topic because it's for NEWS ONLY. But as soon as Aldo was mentioned as working with her for the LMBTL album, I knew it was all BS. He was not her manager then. Within the first 5 sentences, this story was proven as rubbish. And this is who Javito quoted in another thread as a credible source of information. #GirlBye

 

Huh?

Where does it say Aldo worked with her on the LMBTL album? There's a mangled and clearly mis-edited sentence, mind you, but I don't see what you see.

[Tom_London_Fan]

I have to agree that this sounds like a fan written fantasy. We’ve had many of them before, and as I’ve always said...take them with a pinch of salt. Well...in this case...maybe not even a pinch.

[CelinesDIVO5]

I have to agree that this sounds like a fan written fantasy. We’ve had many of them before, and as I’ve always said...take them with a pinch of salt. Well...in this case...maybe not even a pinch.

 

It’s not even fantasy. It’s truly many of the posts on this board, written in paragraph form. There is nothing here that anyone else on this forum hasn’t speculated or wished for. It’s a bunch of BS from a member with 10 posts.

[Bruno Portugal]

With all this news what I don't want is more abandoned songs in Sony's archive.

Please, release a double-cd! The classic and the edgy Celine.

[ryba]

I wish Celine would do an interview or a video message for her fans and elaborated on everything instead of letting everyone speculate Edited November 3, 2018 at 09:14 PM by ryba

[scielle]

I wish Celine would do an interview or a video message for her fans and elaborated on everything instead of letting everyone speculate

 

LOL video messages are the single tackiest thing in her repertoire

 

I'm all for an interview though! It's been so long since we had a real, non-frivolous one. (But I get it; I think she needed time and wasn't - possibly isn't - really ready to talk.)

[Davey84]

 

 

 

Two s*** artists then lol. Cher is an abomination who's only contribution to the music industry is making over-use of auto-tune popular, besides she hasn't been relevant since that "I Believe" song.

 

Clearly you've never really listened to a Cher album she might not have a big range. But she is a great singer! With or without auto-tune

 

I would love a Cher & Celine duet

 

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[mirage]

Oh yes, it's been sooo long since a decent long in depth interview.

The little chats in all the TV shows she did the last times don't count as interviews

 

An English or French one. A 1 hour special

 

 

 

LOL video messages are the single tackiest thing in her repertoire

 

I'm all for an interview though! It's been so long since we had a real, non-frivolous one. (But I get it; I think she needed time and wasn't - possibly isn't - really ready to talk.)