idroveallnight Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:37 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:37 AM Am I understanding correctly that Eminem has an album being released the same day? If so, I guess we know who RC is rooting for. Seriously, if she places #1 or #100, what does it matter? She's been #1 plenty of times in her life. At this point she is recording just to make the fans happy. 4 Quote
Katie Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM I really hope this album can outsell TAKING CHANCES... If it reaches TC figures...that would be awesome! 2 Quote
marc-02 Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:55 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:55 AM (edited) So Lady Gaga's album is to be released November 11 as well, so I'm starting to hope for Top 5 in general. Pre-Christmas time is really not the right time to release an album if you want it to be #1 Wait Billboard updates its chart every Thursday right? So if Celine releases on Nov 5... she only gets what? 2 or 3 days' worth of sales to count for that week's chart. And then the sales for the succeeding days will have to be counted for the chart the week after that, which is the same week as Lady Gaga's album drops... Edited October 24, 2013 at 12:56 AM by marc-02 Quote
québecflower Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM maybe not the first week, but i think this album will continue to have great sale Quote Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
Trombones13 Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:01 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:01 AM Wait Billboard updates its chart every Thursday right? So if Celine releases on Nov 5... she only gets what? 2 or 3 days' worth of sales to count for that week's chart. And then the sales for the succeeding days will have to be counted for the chart the week after that, which is the same week as Lady Gaga's album drops...No; Billboard's sales week runs Monday - Sunday and the chart for that week is published the following Thursday. See the example toward the top of this Wikipedia entry for a better idea of the schedule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_200 Quote @KurtTrowbridge / KurtTrowbridge.com
Bóól'át'í Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:43 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:43 AM (edited) I really hope this album can outsell TAKING CHANCES... Just being realistic but that's never gonna happen. I'd say she won't scan a million - but it'll still be certified platinum. Edited October 24, 2013 at 01:51 AM by Bóól'át'í Quote
JasonFromTheMoon Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:45 AM Posted October 24, 2013 at 01:45 AM I really hope this album can outsell TAKING CHANCES... Worldwide maybe it's possible and I hope so. As for the US - it will have to sell strong, because "Taking Chances" is platinum with more than a million copies sold. Quote Welcome to the "Loved Me Back To Life" era!http://s10.postimg.org/j8wfwy3ah/Fotor0101825542.jpg
wjd Posted October 25, 2013 at 05:58 PM Author Posted October 25, 2013 at 05:58 PM Eminem is predicted to sell 750,000 copies of his new album during his first week [same week as Céline releases her new album] and Lady Gaga is predicted to sell 450,000 copies of her new album during her first week [the second week of Céline's new album]. So anyone thinking Céline has a shot at #1 will need to adjust their expectations NOW. 1 Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
manu23 Posted October 25, 2013 at 06:13 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 06:13 PM I still don't understand why they went for November 5, when October 28 is free from big names, I don't get it, we could have had a #1 album 5 Quote
manu23 Posted October 25, 2013 at 06:15 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 06:15 PM Eminem is predicted to sell 750,000 copies of his new album during his first week [same week as Céline releases her new album] and Lady Gaga is predicted to sell 450,000 copies of her new album during her first week [the second week of Céline's new album]. So anyone thinking Céline has a shot at #1 will need to adjust their expectations NOW. Could she beat Lady Gaga in UK? Quote
wjd Posted October 25, 2013 at 07:43 PM Author Posted October 25, 2013 at 07:43 PM Could she beat Lady Gaga in UK? Nope. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
jepoi Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:37 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:37 PM Who knows for sure? We just might be in for a surprise. Quote
idroveallnight Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:38 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:38 PM As if the Celine Corporation could care about album sales anymore. They know the big money is in touring and Celine dominates in this arena. Gaga, Eminem, and whatever other mediocre artists out there today will never be able to touch her when it comes to touring (that's why Gaga allegedly broke her hip or whatever since concert sales were too low and she had to cancel shows because of this "supposed injury"). Who cares where it places; just give us the album already! 1 Quote
ehild Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:42 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:42 PM Eminem is predicted to sell 750,000 copies of his new album during his first week [same week as Céline releases her new album] and Lady Gaga is predicted to sell 450,000 copies of her new album during her first week [the second week of Céline's new album]. So anyone thinking Céline has a shot at #1 will need to adjust their expectations NOW. Agreed. If these two weren't releasing albums I'd say she stands a pretty good shot at it but, at best, maybe # 3? Even that, unfortunately, I don't see happening as much I really want it to. Quote ~Liz"Please don't make your career your life. Let it be your passion, let it bring you pleasure, but don't let it become your identity. You are so much more valuable than that." -Celine
ehild Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:43 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 08:43 PM I still don't understand why they went for November 5, when October 28 is free from big names, I don't get it, we could have had a #1 album Katy Perry is releasing her album on the 28th. I think that's why they moved it. Quote ~Liz"Please don't make your career your life. Let it be your passion, let it bring you pleasure, but don't let it become your identity. You are so much more valuable than that." -Celine
wjd Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:09 PM Author Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:09 PM I also think #3 is her best bet. If Eminem sells the projected estimate of 750,000 and suffers a 70-75% drop in his second week, he'd still sell around 200,000 copies of his album in week #1, which would be more than Céline's projected opening week sale and would thus keep her at #3 [behind Gaga who will debut at #1 and himself at #2]. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
mike_z Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:14 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:14 PM I also think #3 is her best bet. If Eminem sells the projected estimate of 750,000 and suffers a 70-75% drop in his second week, he'd still sell around 200,000 copies of his album in week #1, which would be more than Céline's projected opening week sale and would thus keep her at #3 [behind Gaga who will debut at #1 and himself at #2]. you're talking about second week right? We all think she'll debut at #2 right? best charting position since ONE HEART! Quote
wjd Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:26 PM Author Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:26 PM you're talking about second week right? We all think she'll debut at #2 right? best charting position since ONE HEART! No, I highly doubt that. She'll settle for #3. Gaga will be #1 with circa 450,000 albums sold. Eminem will be #2 with a MINIMUM of 200,000 albums sold [providing he meets the first week projected sales of 750,000]. Céline will be #3. Sony project sales of around 150,000-160,000 albums sold. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
mike_z Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:29 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:29 PM No, I highly doubt that. She'll settle for #3. Gaga will be #1 with circa 450,000 albums sold. Eminem will be #2 with a MINIMUM of 200,000 albums sold [providing he meets the first week projected sales of 750,000]. Céline will be #3. Sony project sales of around 150,000-160,000 albums sold. I don't get it! Are u talking about USA or the UK?Gaga's not releasing until November 11th!! Quote
garçon Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:36 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 09:36 PM How about international figures? Quote
wjd Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM Author Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM I don't get it! Are u talking about USA or the UK?Gaga's not releasing until November 11th!! OH, I've mixed Céline's date up! Haha. If Katy Perry suffers a typical 70% drop, then I see no reason why Céline shouldn't be #2. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
mike_z Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:09 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:09 PM OH, I've mixed Céline's date up! Haha. If Katy Perry suffers a typical 70% drop, then I see no reason why Céline shouldn't be #2. Thank God Wayne!!!! So we can still hope for Celine's best debut in 10 years! Quote
manu23 Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM Posted October 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM Katy Perry released this last Monday not the 28th 1 Quote
wjd Posted November 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM Author Posted November 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM The first week predictions for Céline come out at the beginning next week - therefore, I will accept additional predictions until Sunday night - anyone else want to participate? Please predict what you expect Loved Me Back To Life to sell in its first week in the US AND what chart position you expect it to reach with these sales, i.e. Loved Me Back To Life - 300,000 sales [#2] Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
isurrender Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:26 AM Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:26 AM Well, Kate Perry's first week is pretty bad. She is all over the place and has a monster hit on her hands and she couldn't even sell 300,000 albums. Don't know if it's good for Céline or not. Quote
sourdumpling Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:42 AM Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:42 AM Well, Kate Perry's first week is pretty bad. She is all over the place and has a monster hit on her hands and she couldn't even sell 300,000 albums. Don't know if it's good for Céline or not.i think its good for celine. it proves that those who are expected to have high sales number can fail easily, and those who have low sales prediction might rise up! Quote
wjd Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM Author Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM Well, Kate Perry's first week is pretty bad. She is all over the place and has a monster hit on her hands and she couldn't even sell 300,000 albums. Don't know if it's good for Céline or not. Its not bad, its nearly 100,000 copies more than Teenage Dream, which was a monster album. In the last three years, just FIVE studio albums by female soloists have debuted with more than 300,000 copies sold - its quite unbelievable actually! Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
isurrender Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:57 AM Posted November 1, 2013 at 11:57 AM You know what I meant by "bad"... of course, it's not bad but sorry we could expect more. Plus, it's logical that the more famous and more successfull you get, the more albums you sell the first week. "Teenage dream" was a big hit, so it's "normal" that the next one would sell more than TD's first week. It's like you said next Adele's album selling 500.000 copies in the US is good because she sold around 350.000 copies the week of 21's release. After selling 10.000.000 copies of the later, it will be pretty bad. Quote
wjd Posted November 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM Author Posted November 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM You know what I meant by "bad"... of course, it's not bad but sorry we could expect more. Plus, it's logical that the more famous and more successfull you get, the more albums you sell the first week. "Teenage dream" was a big hit, so it's "normal" that the next one would sell more than TD's first week. It's like you said next Adele's album selling 500.000 copies in the US is good because she sold around 350.000 copies the week of 21's release. After selling 10.000.000 copies of the later, it will be pretty bad. No, that's not logical thinking at all - that's you adding 2 + 2 and getting 5. I accept that many people - including me - were expecting her to top 300,000 copies first week. But ultimately, she did 50% more than her previous album in its first week, which is more than the industry standard for female artists. The problem these days is that chart watchers expect too much. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Kyle_Jared Posted November 1, 2013 at 01:26 PM Posted November 1, 2013 at 01:26 PM Final projected figure for USA opening: #2--136,000 Quote
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