What do you expect "Loved Me Back To Life" to sell, in its opening week [USA]?

[mebe]

But I think that in the end she could reach 1 million again...Hope she will!!!

[Kyle_Jared]

anything over 200K would be stellar after a six year absence. Whitney opened with 300K after 6 or 7 years maybe longer between studio albums, but that was a comeback of sorts too...and the promo was HUUUUGGGE.

 

Rene and Sony need to pull out all the stops for this release. Major MAJOR press in America is Key. I

[pat200]

All of you underestimated her french debut and she blew us all out of the water with her numbers. I feel her english album will sell around 350k first week, and debut at #1

[Irate_Ninja]

Im hoping for over 350K, depending on how the first single does, maybe between 200 & 250K? Im wishing for huge number though!

[wjd]

All of you underestimated her french debut and she blew us all out of the water with her numbers. I feel her english album will sell around 350k first week, and debut at #1

 

Are you seriously comparing her French audience to her American audience?

 

Her last major CD release in America was My Love which sold 58,000 copies in its first week - but it was a compilation. Taking Chances is arguably her best promoted album/era since Falling Into You [in terms of the first week promo] and it "only" debuted with 214,000 copies. I can remember when its release date was first announced and there was talk within the industry that it would do 400,000 copies and rival Alicia Keys. And we all knew how that ended up - Alicia nearly doubled the expectation selling over 720,000 copies and Taking Chances halved the expectation selling "only" 214,000 copies.

 

The American audience isn't instantly receptive to Celine these days - if she wants to match Taking Chances #'s, she needs to match the amount of promo. Which I hope she does, as I really want this album to sell over 2 million copies worldwide!

[Xpresso]

And she needs to promote the new songs from the album instead of her old songs as she did on Oprah... : Edited June 16, 2013 at 11:29 PM by Xpresso

[Si J'etais Quelqu'un]

115.000

[wjd]

And she needs to promote the new songs from the album instead of her old songs as she did on Oprah... :

 

American audiences respond well to two mediums...

 

- Radio airplay - she won;t get this, without securing a Clear Channel deal [which would probably only result in short-term success anyway]

- Promotion - 50/50 chance she will do a good job of this

[Peppercorn1991]

anyone else get to feeling people seem to be warming towards celine the past years. i now people have stopped dissing her to me

 

kev x

[chocolatechip15]

Are you seriously comparing her French audience to her American audience?

 

Her last major CD release in America was My Love which sold 58,000 copies in its first week - but it was a compilation. Taking Chances is arguably her best promoted album/era since Falling Into You [in terms of the first week promo] and it "only" debuted with 214,000 copies. I can remember when its release date was first announced and there was talk within the industry that it would do 400,000 copies and rival Alicia Keys. And we all knew how that ended up - Alicia nearly doubled the expectation selling over 720,000 copies and Taking Chances halved the expectation selling "only" 214,000 copies.

 

The American audience isn't instantly receptive to Celine these days - if she wants to match Taking Chances #'s, she needs to match the amount of promo. Which I hope she does, as I really want this album to sell over 2 million copies worldwide!

 

I think it depends a lot on the content of the album. I think that part of the reason Taking Chances didn't do that well (compared to others) is that she strayed pretty far from the type of music she's well-known for. I know a lot of people on the forum love Taking Chances, but it is significantly more "rock" than her previous releases, and I think it's very possible that people knew about it, but just weren't interested in buying it. Honestly, I remember seeing the Taking Chances CBS special, and thinking "eh, i don't really like the new songs or the direction she's going in. Why buy the CD?" [i was then in a phase where i wasn't that into celine in general, but i just didn't care for the new music. Taking Chances is still my least favorite Celine album, though I've learned to enjoy a few of the songs]

 

So I think a lot of it is not just that it's "a new Celine album" or that it gets a lot of promo -- but whether the songs are good. (And I don't mean releasing something with Ne-Yo just because he's big right now -- the song still has to be really good). I believe a big part of the reason Sans Attendre sold so well is that it's really, really good -- beautiful music, heartfelt emotion, songs that are, as Rene said, "made to measure" for Celine.

 

So I'm reserving my opinion until we know more about the album content .

[DionFanAlways]

Promo promo promo!!! Oprah will have to air a special. Does anyone know when Jay Leno is leaving? He has always liked her. I wonder what the numbers for the Katie show was when she was on? Oh and Ellen. Letterman, I guess.

I'll take a stab at it, 245,000!

Edited June 17, 2013 at 01:34 AM by DionFanAlways

[Jeff Abbott]

For the time being it's kind of hard to predict the first week sales in the US, it's still one big unknown, just like the album itself.

[gafsa]

Lucky guess 318 K

[Timster]

I would love for Celine to do The View again and also The Talk, it's much more fun!

[Kyle_Jared]

these are huge figures. I think she's going to do UNDER 200K. I really do, unless the promo is MASSIVE and the first single is a hit.

 

I see between 150K-165K

[Bóól'át'í]

these are huge figures. I think she's going to do UNDER 200K. I really do, unless the promo is MASSIVE and the first single is a hit.

 

I see between 150K-165K

 

I was just going to say that too - these numbers mentioned are huge. We think Celine is a best-seller, but honestly, these are different times in the music industry. The record buying public is small and fickle, and Celine will not cause a buying frenzy. I think even if the promo is huge, the sales will mirror that of Sans Attendre in France where it had legs and was a success over time rather than opening with huge numbers. A majority of people don't buy, instead they download illegally. What helps Celine also is her Adult Contemporary fans - they are a big slice of the pie of music buyers. But even then, that's not a guarantee. I've said before, radio will largely ignore her so sales will also be affected by that. But like I said earlier, these are different, and difficult, times in the music industry. Heck, even big named artists don't even open with numbers like mentioned in people's predictions. So having said all that, it is difficult to predict how much she will sell in the first week and where she'll debut on the charts. I'll get around to that closer to release date.

[sailornic]

goods songs sell album. Taking chances had no hit. you can still listen to falling into you but taking chances.... hard to do it.

[amelie]

we should do a new topic like this closer to the release date (like 2-4 weeks before release). that said, i'll go with 230.000 #2

(for some reason trying to predict chart position seems sillier than sales, not sure it should)

[GoldenLeaf]

anything over 200K would be stellar after a six year absence. Whitney opened with 300K after 6 or 7 years maybe longer between studio albums, but that was a comeback of sorts too...and the promo was HUUUUGGGE.

 

Rene and Sony need to pull out all the stops for this release. Major MAJOR press in America is Key. I

''Taking Chances'' sold more units than ''I Look To You'' in all the major makets : North America, Europe & Asia.

Edited June 19, 2013 at 06:03 PM by GoldenLeaf

[boyblackuk]

I say 350,000 (#1) because its been so long since her last and I get the feeling this will be a biggy to begin

[Peppercorn1991]

Maybe now this album is getting publicity due to Daniel Crybaby .... who knows

 

is it good or bad publicity?

 

kev x

[quaizee]

Maybe now this album is getting publicity due to Daniel Crybaby .... who knows

 

is it good or bad publicity?

 

kev x

 

Dunno if it's good or bad publicity but if they keep the song on the album, many people will buy it just for curiosity

In case the song is out of the album, it will sell many copies anyway only to hear which other songs Celine has stolen

Edited July 4, 2013 at 06:14 PM by quaizee

[Nando Férri]

Since we already know half of the album, I would say not more than 100k. Maybe 80k.

[québecflower]

i thbink this topic will be renamed....and i also think that celine will sell more than 200000. Thanks Daniel. Publicity good or bad is always good.

[idroveallnight]

Given that Taking Changes debuted and peaked at #3, a time when Celine was still somewhat relevant considering A New Day was coming to a close, I don't expect this album to debut at anything above #3 unless she promotes the heck out of it, which I doubt she will.

 

Numbers are not important these days guys. What's important is that her music still appeals to us, her real fans, and that she is recording quality music that is true to who she is, rather than being all edgy and collaborating with these young artists to remain relevant.

 

I listen to a lot of music that would not have a hope in hell of being on the Hot 100, but that doesn't mean it sucks. It's multitudes better than the music on mainstream radio these days. The point is what does it matter if she debuts at high or low as long as she comes out with some good stuff? Sure it's nice to be on top, but if she's on top with corny songs then I'm not interested. Let's go back to the days of "Falling Into You." Every single song on that album just blew us away.

[QueenCeline87]

I say 200k or under ....it's hard to tell because we don't have an exact date for release and we don't know who she is up against, in saying that I do think she will go top 3 in the charts!

As everyone is saying its down to promo , an AMAZING first single , an awesome video , Oprah special maybe ...The next chapter shows that she does?

I do think her shows in Europe will help because she will be around to do some promo. I think the album will build and I do think like they done with SA, a mini tour in 2014 at some stage to support it would be awesome.

Oh and defiantly release at least 3 singles from it and good videos to support them!

[Kyle_Jared]

I'm going to lock in under 200K at this point. It's been 6 years since an album release and still no single.

 

if Taking Chances opened with 214K I'm going with maximum sales of 161K opening week for this set...and that's on the high end.

[CelineDionForeverNY]

Is this a bet? Prediction: 175,000 at #4. I don't think there's going to be as much promotion as with the other albums in the past (ex: Oprah, Ellen, Today Show, etc...) and I really doubt that Celine's team will pick a good single to start off.

[DionFanAlways]

Is this a bet? Prediction: 175,000 at #4. I don't think there's going to be as much promotion as with the other albums in the past (ex: Oprah, Ellen, Today Show, etc...) and I really doubt that Celine's team will pick a good single to start off.

I see what you're saying............

[Peppercorn1991]

So do any of your estimations change now after hearing the amazing, powerful, dramatic lead single?

 

Btw the topic title needs changing ( I am the only one loving every time Waaf gets taken from the titles and replaced with loved me back to life? )

 

Kev x