wjd Posted June 14, 2013 at 04:38 PM Posted June 14, 2013 at 04:38 PM If like me, you are interested in charts/sales - I've spent the last 8 years nigh on obsessed and have collated sales/estimations for nearly 200 artists - then this will appeal to you! Its simple - the US is the biggest market in the world for recorded music - not necessarily for Celine, but in general: with this said, what sales do you expect Celine Dion to achieve with Water and a Flame in its first week? I will collate, and come October - we can crown a winner: the person that comes closest, wins! With this in mind, here's a bit of perspective... Celine Dion - Opening Week Studio Album Sales [and peaks in parentheses] Tallies in the USA - 00's [2002] A New Day Has Come - 558,000 [#1][2003] One Heart - 432,000 [#2][2005] Miracle - 108,000 [#4][2007] Taking Chances - 215,000 [#3][2013] Water and a Flame - ?? [?] All of the above have sold at least 1 million copies in the US; her biggest-seller is A New Day Has Come which has sold roughly 3.5 million copies. So, what do we expect for Water and a Flame? Post your predictions below! I am going to be conservative, and estimate that given its a fourth quarter release, she will sell quite well but peak a bit lower as the competition is stiffer. wjd - 175,000 [#3] Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
LuisMa Posted June 15, 2013 at 09:26 AM Posted June 15, 2013 at 09:26 AM I'm gonna place a 195,000 estimate and a number 2 debut. I hope it's higher, but I also think there will be stiff competition. Quote
Celine Fan 77 Posted June 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM Posted June 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM WISH: More than 'A New Day Has Come' WHAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN: A bit more than 'Taking Chances' 1 Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
wjd Posted June 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM Author Posted June 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM WISH: More than 'A New Day Has Come' WHAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN: A bit more than 'Taking Chances' Yeah, the whole point is you guess some numbers, not play word association... Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Kyle_Jared Posted June 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM Posted June 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM Prediction: 165K #3 Quote
LuisMa Posted June 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM What does the winner get, Wayne? Quote
dj4celine Posted June 15, 2013 at 01:15 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 01:15 PM What does the winner get, Wayne? Wayney makes public his entire chart database for us, Luis 1 Quote
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM 200,000 would be great Don't know if it's within their reach though. A successful first single could be very helpful in boosting that number a bit. Quote
blueangel92 Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:19 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:19 PM because of NeYo's appearance, I strongly believe in the number 200,000 (#2) :"> Quote http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt182/tuongkhanh92/cdvn-1.png Celine Dion Vietnam Facebook Celine Dion Vietnam Blogspot
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:24 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:24 PM I guess collaboration with Ne-Yo (as long as it's the first single) could only help reach that 200k level. Quote
wjd Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:44 PM Author Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:44 PM Wayney makes public his entire chart database for us, Luis I don't think so! The winner will get prestige! LOL. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
wjd Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:46 PM Author Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:46 PM Predictions so far ... wjd - 175,000 [#3]LuisMa - 195,000 [#2]Kyle_Jared - 165,000 [#3]blueangel92 - 200,000 [#2]Jeff Abbott - 200,000 [?]Javier Natalio - 305,000 [#1] Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Neddo Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:49 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:49 PM with right single 400k wrong single 250k Quote http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7804/5tq2.png
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:51 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 02:51 PM Predictions so far ... wjd - 175,000 [#3]LuisMa - 195,000 [#2]Kyle_Jared - 165,000 [#3]blueangel92 - 200,000 [#2]Jeff Abbott - 200,000 [?]Javier Natalio - 305,000 [#1]Sorry about that, Jeff Abbott - 200,000 [#2] Quote
Xpresso Posted June 15, 2013 at 03:09 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 03:09 PM (edited) If only we would know the exact release date... it all depends on competition that week...Anyway, let's say 210,000 for a #1 album!! Let's be positive! EDIT: But they'd better release that Ne-Yo duet as 1st single. Even if it's not the best single on the album, the Ne-Yo appearance will be a great help for radio spins... And as you know, Sony never picks the best song as 1st single anyway so...!! Edited June 15, 2013 at 03:12 PM by Xpresso 2 Quote
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 03:22 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 03:22 PM If only we would know the exact release date... it all depends on competition that week...Anyway, let's say 210,000 for a #1 album!! Let's be positive! EDIT: But they'd better release that Ne-Yo duet as 1st single. Even if it's not the best single on the album, the Ne-Yo appearance will be a great help for radio spins... And as you know, Sony never picks the best song as 1st single anyway so...!! Something tells me this song can be pretty good or great even (if we were to believe Ne-Yo's own words). 1 Quote
Daniel Hamilton Posted June 15, 2013 at 04:30 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 04:30 PM (edited) I don't care which position it goes on the album will be great. Edited June 15, 2013 at 04:32 PM by Daniel Hamilton Quote
stone Posted June 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM 226,000 The vibe seems good for this album and she's been consistently been in the press and being talk about in a positive light this year. With the success of SA I think Sony USA and Int'l will appropriately promote this lp as it should! 1 Quote
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 05:58 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 05:58 PM 226,000 The vibe seems good for this album and she's been consistently been in the press and being talk about in a positive light this year. With the success of SA I think Sony USA and Int'l will appropriately promote this lp as it should!I hope you'll be right on this one. 1 Quote
wjd Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:14 PM Author Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:14 PM I don't care which position it goes on the album will be great. If you don't care, then kindly stick to the other thread Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Daniel Hamilton Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:21 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:21 PM I was just saying that's all. Quote
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:24 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:24 PM (edited) Well, I also used to think to myself that I don't care about Celine's chart positions until the Sans Attendre 'era' began. Edited June 15, 2013 at 06:25 PM by Jeff Abbott 1 Quote
LukeD Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:55 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 06:55 PM (edited) I say 370k and #1. Edited June 15, 2013 at 06:55 PM by LukeD 2 Quote
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:19 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:19 PM I slowly get this feeling that my 200k prediction seems kind of underestimated. Quote
dj4celine Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:32 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:32 PM I don't think so! The winner will get prestige! LOL.That's mean, Wayney! I'm gonna wait for a little while longer until I throw in my predictions Quote
wjd Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:38 PM Author Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:38 PM I slowly get this feeling that my 200k prediction seems kind of underestimated. Contextually speaking, she shouldn't breach 200,000. But I would love for her to do so. 1 Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Jeff Abbott Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:51 PM Posted June 15, 2013 at 07:51 PM (edited) Contextually speaking, she shouldn't breach 200,000. But I would love for her to do so.To me, 200k seem to be the most realistic option, as of now. Let's see what happens when the first single hits the radio stations. Edited June 15, 2013 at 08:00 PM by Jeff Abbott Quote
Davey84 Posted June 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM Posted June 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM I'm gonna have FAITH, TRUST, LUURVE and say: 268.000 #1 2 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
mebe Posted June 16, 2013 at 05:22 PM Posted June 16, 2013 at 05:22 PM I go with 170 000 and #2 (hard to say because I don't know what will be the competitors! but that number could be #1 or #3 too, hard to say...) Quote
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