Changes to the show?

[riobeard11]

I think you're probably right about that. However, the NON-FANS (the majority of people who buy tickets to her shows) would be bored out of their minds.

I really think that enough of the people there are good enough fans to not mind two quick French songs in the middle of the show...but I also feel like the non-fans have to think that NMQTP is pretty...and if she added a fast song after they would dance along even though they may not know it.

 

I agree. The Falling Into You tour always had 2 French songs in the English setlist - PQTME & JIOTI - one ballad and one up-tempo. They could easily do the same in this show! Anything that isn't a cover!!!

I wouldn't even mind if she did Dans un autre monde! At least she can sing that without having to use much effort and it's fast/fun.

[couldawouldashoulda]

I'm sure it's different for other countries because, outside of the U.S., many people seem to speak (or at least be familiar with) other languages than their own. However, here in the U.S., if you're not speaking English (or singing it, in this case) STFU. Americans don't want to hear something other than English. They don't care about listening to the music and oh, isn't it pretty....they want to hear words they understand. It's sad but it's true. Notice they NEVER did two french songs again after the Falling Into You fiasco. I don't know about the rest of you but, when she sings her French songs at the shows I attend here in America (and I'm thinking of the tours of Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love and Taking Chances), when she starts singing her French song, MANY people get up to go to the bathroom.

[takeachance]

I'm sure it's different for other countries because, outside of the U.S., many people seem to speak (or at least be familiar with) other languages than their own. However, here in the U.S., if you're not speaking English (or singing it, in this case) STFU. Americans don't want to hear something other than English. They don't care about listening to the music and oh, isn't it pretty....they want to hear words they understand. It's sad but it's true. Notice they NEVER did two french songs again after the Falling Into You fiasco. I don't know about the rest of you but, when she sings her French songs at the shows I attend here in America (and I'm thinking of the tours of Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love and Taking Chances), when she starts singing her French song, MANY people get up to go to the bathroom.

 

What was the falling into you fiasco?

[couldawouldashoulda]

I meant the fact that *did* put 2 french songs in the show. I saw it 3 times on tour and people got up and left/started talking around me about why was she singing in French, etc. I mean...one song is okay, but then Americans (non-fans) are ready to get back to hearing her sing in a language they can understand. Quite honestly, they don't even want to hear her sing English songs they don't know (i.e. TYLAM, IKWLI, etc). They paid $250, they want to hear TPOL, MHWGO, IACBTMN and her singing covers of music that they *do* know.

[Timster]

I'm sure it's different for other countries because, outside of the U.S., many people seem to speak (or at least be familiar with) other languages than their own. However, here in the U.S., if you're not speaking English (or singing it, in this case) STFU. Americans don't want to hear something other than English. They don't care about listening to the music and oh, isn't it pretty....they want to hear words they understand. It's sad but it's true. Notice they NEVER did two french songs again after the Falling Into You fiasco. I don't know about the rest of you but, when she sings her French songs at the shows I attend here in America (and I'm thinking of the tours of Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love and Taking Chances), when she starts singing her French song, MANY people get up to go to the bathroom.

I meant the fact that *did* put 2 french songs in the show. I saw it 3 times on tour and people got up and left/started talking around me about why was she singing in French, etc. I mean...one song is okay, but then Americans (non-fans) are ready to get back to hearing her sing in a language they can understand. Quite honestly, they don't even want to hear her sing English songs they don't know (i.e. TYLAM, IKWLI, etc). They paid $250, they want to hear TPOL, MHWGO, IACBTMN and her singing covers of music that they *do* know.

 

Well I think having 2 French songs in the FIY setlist was a good move, at least she tried to introduce a bit of culture to the "English-only" Americans. It's so sad that they discount other languages as not important to them.

 

What you are saying may be true in a tour situation, but in Vegas, there are fans from all over the world, and French happens to be a very widely spoken, worldwide language. So I see no problem with 2 French songs in Vegas, as it makes the show more international, it's not all about the US fans here!

Edited June 30, 2012 at 07:02 PM by Timster

[couldawouldashoulda]

Well I think having 2 French songs in the FIY setlist was a good move, at least she tried to introduce a bit of culture to the "English-only" Americans. It's so sad that they discount other languages as not important to them.

 

What you are saying may be true in a tour situation, but in Vegas, there are fans from all over the world, and French happens to be a very widely spoken, worldwide language. So I see no problem with 2 French songs in Vegas, as it makes the show more international, it's not all about the US fans here!

 

But you're not really hearing my point...you're talking about the fact that the FANS wouldn't mind if there were two French songs. However, the FANS only make up 2-5% of the ticket buyers!!!!!! The NON-FANS, let me repeat that, the NON-FANS, Okay, I probably need to say that one more time...the NON-FANS (get it, I'm talking about NON-FANS here) would NOT want to hear two French songs just as they don't want to hear I Know What Love Is or Then You Look At Me or Reveal.

 

Sorry to be so blunt about this but you didn't seem to get that I'm agreeing with you that fans wouldn't mind but that non-fans would and there are so many more of them than there are of us.

Edited June 30, 2012 at 09:46 PM by couldawouldashoulda

[Peppercorn1991]

But you're not really hearing my point...you're talking about the fact that the FANS wouldn't mind if there were two French songs. However, the FANS only make up 2-5% of the ticket buyers!!!!!! The NON-FANS, let me repeat that, the NON-FANS, Okay, I probably need to say that one more time...the NON-FANS (get it, I'm talking about NON-FANS here) would NOT want to hear two French songs just as they don't want to hear I Know What Love Is or Then You Look At Me or Reveal.

 

Sorry to be so blunt about this but you didn't seem to get that I'm agreeing with you that fans wouldn't mind but that non-fans would and there are so many more of them than there are of us.

 

Tim never said anything about fans or none-fans, he just said french is widely spoken and that it wouldn't harm ANYONE, as french is widely spoken throughout the world lol I think u miss understood him. . I agree with Tim that there would be no harm in putting another french song in the setlist because french is spoken in many countries. Some English speaking people may not understand it, but they all know celine is french Canadian so they would respect that she sings a couple of songs in french.

 

kev x

[Timster]

But you're not really hearing my point...you're talking about the fact that the FANS wouldn't mind if there were two French songs. However, the FANS only make up 2-5% of the ticket buyers!!!!!! The NON-FANS, let me repeat that, the NON-FANS, Okay, I probably need to say that one more time...the NON-FANS (get it, I'm talking about NON-FANS here) would NOT want to hear two French songs just as they don't want to hear I Know What Love Is or Then You Look At Me or Reveal.

 

Sorry to be so blunt about this but you didn't seem to get that I'm agreeing with you that fans wouldn't mind but that non-fans would and there are so many more of them than there are of us.

 

Ok, but again you're assuming that all these non-fans are American or English-only speaking! You're saying that all non-fans just want to hear her English hits, and so you're putting her French hits in the same category as rare songs like IKWLI and TYLAM. Regardless of whether they are fans or non-fans, a large percentage of the people who see the Vegas show are foreign. You need to understand that while most non-fans would be able to identify with songs like TPOL, IACBTMN and MHWGO, there is also a huge number of non-fans around the world who would be able to relate just as easily to her French songs, if not more. I really don't see the harm in 2 French songs, after all it's still only a tiny portion of the whole show.

[Celine Fan 77]

I'm sure it's different for other countries because, outside of the U.S., many people seem to speak (or at least be familiar with) other languages than their own. However, here in the U.S., if you're not speaking English (or singing it, in this case) STFU. Americans don't want to hear something other than English. They don't care about listening to the music and oh, isn't it pretty....they want to hear words they understand. It's sad but it's true. Notice they NEVER did two french songs again after the Falling Into You fiasco. I don't know about the rest of you but, when she sings her French songs at the shows I attend here in America (and I'm thinking of the tours of Falling Into You, Let's Talk About Love and Taking Chances), when she starts singing her French song, MANY people get up to go to the bathroom.

 

Actually, during some shows of the Let's Talk About Love World Tour she did Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore and S'il Suffisait D'aimer. And I have no idea of what you mean when you say "Falling Into You Fiasco"...

[couldawouldashoulda]

I will agree to disagree with you. It seems; however, that Celine's team agrees with me. I'm assuming that is because I, like her team, are a part of showbusiness and have a better understanding of why these decisions get made. And that is my final say on the matter.

[celine4evauk]

I think it was great Celine had a few more french songs during the FIY tour. Don't forget D'eux/The French Album was huge in non-french countries. It was a good move to show these songs. But yes, if people don't understand the song theycan get "bored" with it.

 

As for LV show now - why couldn't they have a french medley that includes uptempo and slow french songs?? Bit like Starmania. They've got the screen and the show programmes - they could easily include the literal english translations for the audience.

[Davey84]

Actually Céline had three French songs during FIY: PQTME, JIOTI and Le Ballet

[celine4evauk]

Actually Céline had three French songs during FIY: PQTME, JIOTI and Le Ballet

 

 

Such a small part of the show. Don't see why people can't even try to listen to her french stuff. It's who she is!! Everyone knows she's francophone!

 

I'm still voting for a french medley addition!! Perhaps we should start a new topic - see what 4 songs everyone would have as their "Starmania 2"!

[riobeard11]

^ I'd love a french medley!

[takeachance]

i think she should definetely include PQTME in her show.it was such a popular song. its kind of dissapointing not hearing her sing it . I would love a french medley too and she could totally do a dramatic version of Je sais pas! that song gives me chills. so beautiful.

[Davey84]

No I am done with PQTME. It is still my fav song of her, but after the TC tour, that song is well put to rest for a while!

She has sooooooooo many amazing French songs, it's a pitty she always sings one

 

In Vegas, it's not ONLY Americans coming there... At least 20% are foreign tourist from all over the world, I think 2 French songs are something people could deal with, even if they don't understand it all.... I would love to see a new French song in the show

[Timster]

No I am done with PQTME. It is still my fav song of her, but after the TC tour, that song is well put to rest for a while!

She has sooooooooo many amazing French songs, it's a pitty she always sings one

 

In Vegas, it's not ONLY Americans coming there... At least 20% are foreign tourist from all over the world, I think 2 French songs are something people could deal with, even if they don't understand it all.... I would love to see a new French song in the show

 

Totally agree with you!

[Tyler1991]

Come on people, with Celine it's ridiculous to expect her to remember her French roots well enough to actually care enough to sing more than 1 song in French. This is evident by the fact that her "French concerts" are 70% English. Talk about embarrassing. That's worse than the current Vegas situation with all the covers.

 

The TCWT should have had MHWGO, BYLM, TPOL, ABM and TC....the other 16 songs should have been French.

Edited July 1, 2012 at 09:19 PM by Tyler1991

[ashtonelijah]

Come on people, with Celine it's ridiculous to expect her to remember her French roots well enough to actually care enough to sing more than 1 song in French. This is evident by the fact that her "French concerts" are 70% English. Talk about embarrassing. That's worse than the current Vegas situation with all the covers.

 

The TCWT should have had MHWGO, BYLM, TPOL, ABM and TC....the other 16 songs should have been French.

 

La Tournée Mondiale Taking Chances track listing...

 

 

1/2. I Drove All Night + Overture

3. J'irai ou tu iras

4. Destin

5. Taking Chances

6. Et s'il n'en restait qu'une

7. L'amour existe encore

8. Dans un autre monde

9. All By Myself

10. Je sais pas

11. S'il suffisait d'aimer

12. Alone

13. Medley soul

14. It's a Man's Man's World

15. River Deep Mountain High

16. My Heart Will Go On

17. Pour que tu m'aimes encore

[Tyler1991]

That's not even the real track listing. And don't try wasting your time justifying it. For someone who is such an icon in French culture, you'd think there would be more than 6 or 7 french songs when there are 12-13 English songs.

 

French shows need to be like they were back in LAP. Ever since FIY tour, her French shows have steadily had more English songs until there were so many that you can not even call it a French show.

 

The ACCURATE setlist of the concert was:

1. I Drove All Night - Lipped english flop. Not to mention opening a french concert with this?? Someone must've been smokin the good s*** when they came up with this setlist.

2. J'irai Ou Tu Iras - the LCMM of her french career.

3. The Power Of Love - slightly necessary

4. Destin - at least it's a French song.

5. Taking Chances - necessary.

6. Et s'il n'en restait qu'une - at least she is doing ONE song from her new album.

7. Eyes On Me - not really necessary for a French show. Just another effortless playback show filler

8. L'amour Existe Encore - necessary

9. Dans Un Autre Monde - always a fun one. good song.

10. All By Myself - Borderline necessary for a French show

11. I'm Alive - what is this garbage doing in a French show??

12. Je Sais Pas - keep it.

13. My Love - One of the best moments of the show, even if not necessary I'd keep it.

14. S'il Suffisait D'aimer - absolutely necessary

15. Alone - Overall this is just not needed.

16. The Prayer - not really needed.

17. Queen Medley - loved it, but not really needed.

18. Soul Medley/Man's World - same as above.

19. Love Can Move Mountains - see #11

20. River Deep Mountain High - see #11 or #19

21. My Heart Will Go On - necessary.

22. Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore - necessary.

 

So in 22 songs, we have: 8 French songs, 14 English songs. Now anyone who tries to even slightly justify that was dropped on their head one to many times as a baby.

 

First and foremost, the covers can go - soul medley, queen medley....they're nice for an English show because they're songs English audiences are familiar with, but a French audience is not. How about something new and different?

 

Secondly, random english songs which are not on the album being promoted, or are not hits can go - I'm Alive, The Prayer, LCMM, RDMH, IDAN.

 

At this point there are seven songs which clearly have not even 1% purpose in a French show. Arguments can be made either way for Eyes On Me or Alone, so I suppose they can stay...but a whole extra seven songs that can go. Now we would have 15 French songs, and 7 English songs.... that sounds a little bit better at least. Also, the addition of seven more French songs will make up for the fact that the 8 French songs she already sings are the same ones she has been singing with nothing different since the FIY french leg. No offense, but it gets a bit old hearing Destin/J'irai Ou Tu Iras/DUAM/JSP/LAEE/PQTME all the time. I'm fine with all those staying since they are French songs at least, but at least add something different and new.

 

Also, I still don't understand why only ONE song from D'elles was performed. I don't know why she didn't sing other songs in French that she had done on/off on other dates/promos such as: Immensite, Quand on n'a que l'amour, Sous le vent, On ne change pas, Ziggy, Tout l'or des hommes.... She had performed these songs all live between 2007 and her tour (a few even in at some points) so it's not like it would have been difficult to come up with an arrangement.

[ashtonelijah]

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I'm Alive? I loved it in the show. I'd assumed it must've been popular in France, too. I was riding with a French friend one day (she was an exchange student from Paris) and I was playing Celine's songs in French (she loves Celine) and we were singing along... but then I started playing TLBSEPT and she had no idea what it was... And asked me if I had her favorite Celine song... "I'm Alive." lol

[Tyler1991]

I love the way she performed I'm Alive in Jamaica because she didn't stray to far from keeping it the same as the album vocally, but on tour it was sloppy kinda like LCMM and SOL.

[ashtonelijah]

I love the way she performed I'm Alive in Jamaica because she didn't stray to far from keeping it the same as the album vocally, but on tour it was sloppy kinda like LCMM and SOL.

 

I enjoyed the updating of I'm Alive in the tour, I just felt the vocal delivery left much to be desired. She had much more energy in it when she performed it in Jamaica.

[riobeard11]

No I am done with PQTME. It is still my fav song of her, but after the TC tour, that song is well put to rest for a while!

She has sooooooooo many amazing French songs, it's a pitty she always sings one

 

In Vegas, it's not ONLY Americans coming there... At least 20% are foreign tourist from all over the world, I think 2 French songs are something people could deal with, even if they don't understand it all.... I would love to see a new French song in the show

Yup - the special thing with the Vegas show is that there are people from all over the world traveling to see her there vs. just seeing her in their hometown while she's on tour. She could definitely do more than one French song and be fine!

 

I would LOVE a medley similar to the acoustic one from Au coeur du stade

 

 

And Tyler...yeah I mean there are some really good points you bring up and it really is a shame they aren't focusing on her french career at all when it comes to this show. And the fact that during TCWT (which should have been the D'elles tour on the french side) only had one song really is the most strange thing ever.

Edited July 2, 2012 at 04:00 AM by riobeard11

[Shamrock_1982]

Just listened to ANDHC album and think IS would be good to have in the show again... so powerful, and one of my favs from A new day... it would be great with the orchestra to I think.

[Celine Fan 77]

That's not even the real track listing. And don't try wasting your time justifying it. For someone who is such an icon in French culture, you'd think there would be more than 6 or 7 french songs when there are 12-13 English songs.

 

French shows need to be like they were back in LAP. Ever since FIY tour, her French shows have steadily had more English songs until there were so many that you can not even call it a French show.

 

The ACCURATE setlist of the concert was:

1. I Drove All Night - Lipped english flop. Not to mention opening a french concert with this?? Someone must've been smokin the good s*** when they came up with this setlist.

2. J'irai Ou Tu Iras - the LCMM of her french career.

3. The Power Of Love - slightly necessary

4. Destin - at least it's a French song.

5. Taking Chances - necessary.

6. Et s'il n'en restait qu'une - at least she is doing ONE song from her new album.

7. Eyes On Me - not really necessary for a French show. Just another effortless playback show filler

8. L'amour Existe Encore - necessary

9. Dans Un Autre Monde - always a fun one. good song.

10. All By Myself - Borderline necessary for a French show

11. I'm Alive - what is this garbage doing in a French show??

12. Je Sais Pas - keep it.

13. My Love - One of the best moments of the show, even if not necessary I'd keep it.

14. S'il Suffisait D'aimer - absolutely necessary

15. Alone - Overall this is just not needed.

16. The Prayer - not really needed.

17. Queen Medley - loved it, but not really needed.

18. Soul Medley/Man's World - same as above.

19. Love Can Move Mountains - see #11

20. River Deep Mountain High - see #11 or #19

21. My Heart Will Go On - necessary.

22. Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore - necessary.

 

So in 22 songs, we have: 8 French songs, 14 English songs. Now anyone who tries to even slightly justify that was dropped on their head one to many times as a baby.

 

First and foremost, the covers can go - soul medley, queen medley....they're nice for an English show because they're songs English audiences are familiar with, but a French audience is not. How about something new and different?

 

Secondly, random english songs which are not on the album being promoted, or are not hits can go - I'm Alive, The Prayer, LCMM, RDMH, IDAN.

 

At this point there are seven songs which clearly have not even 1% purpose in a French show. Arguments can be made either way for Eyes On Me or Alone, so I suppose they can stay...but a whole extra seven songs that can go. Now we would have 15 French songs, and 7 English songs.... that sounds a little bit better at least. Also, the addition of seven more French songs will make up for the fact that the 8 French songs she already sings are the same ones she has been singing with nothing different since the FIY french leg. No offense, but it gets a bit old hearing Destin/J'irai Ou Tu Iras/DUAM/JSP/LAEE/PQTME all the time. I'm fine with all those staying since they are French songs at least, but at least add something different and new.

 

Also, I still don't understand why only ONE song from D'elles was performed. I don't know why she didn't sing other songs in French that she had done on/off on other dates/promos such as: Immensite, Quand on n'a que l'amour, Sous le vent, On ne change pas, Ziggy, Tout l'or des hommes.... She had performed these songs all live between 2007 and her tour (a few even in at some points) so it's not like it would have been difficult to come up with an arrangement.

 

To be realistic, a DECENT French Taking Chances concert would have looked like this:

 

1. I Drove All Night (I understand they wanted to keep this one, a good opener to a Celine Dion show)

2. J'irai Ou Tu Iras

3. The Power Of Love (Keep it 'cause it's one of her biggest hits)

4. Destin

5. Taking Chances (Fine; it's the tittle song of both the then-latest album and the tour)

6. Et S'il N'en Restait Qu'une

7. On Ne Change Pas (I can't understand why they didn't include this song in the French repertoire of the tour, just in ONE show)

8. L'amour Existe Encore

9. Dans Un Autre Monde

10. All By Myself

11. Immensité

12. Je Sais Pas

13. Je Cherche L'ombre (This would have been like the French "My Love" moment of the concert)

14. S'il Suffisait D'aimer

15. La Diva (with Maria Callas on the big screen)

16. Sous Le Vent (don't really mind if they had Barnev singing Garou's parts)

17. Priere Paienne (she had so much fun performing this song live back in the old days)

18. Le Ballet (Interlude with Céline joining the musicians at the end)

19. Love Can Move Mountains

20. Quand On N'a Que L'amour (She used to close her French shows of TCOML tour with this song instead of Can't Help Falling In Love. She also proved she still can sing this song back in the summer of 2007)

21. My Heart Will Go On

22. Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore

[lisaessy]

So looks like we're gonna see Celine performing Alone while wearing a long dress for the first time!

 

Yes, Looks like Alone Followed by water and a flame in a new Versache Dress soon!

[celinefan1991]

Wait am I missing something? Was there any news recently about Alone actually being added in?

I knew there was talk, but figured they weren't going to add it after the first week or so of no changes. Are they really going to do it before the end of the month?

[Angel2006]

Where is the Versace dress news coming from? Is this just speculation? If it's true i want to know more!!

[Kyle_Jared]

Would love to see these Changes to the Set List

 

"Untitled Interlude I" (Video Introduction) (contains elements of "I Drove All Night")

"Open Arms"

"Where Does My Heart Beat Now"

"If You Asked Me To"

Medley: "It's All Coming Back to Me Now" / "The Power of Love"

"Untitled Interlude II" (Instrumental Interlude)

"(If You Can't Sing It) You'll Have to Swing It (Mr. Paganini)"

"Lullabye (Goodnight, My Angel)"

"Alone"

"James Bond Theme" (Video Interlude)

Medley: "Goldfinger" / "Nobody Does It Better" / "Live and Let Die"

"Spinning Wheel" (Performed by Barnev Valsaint)

"How Do You Keep the Music Playing?" (Duet with a hologram version of Dion)

"Overjoyed" (Virtual duet with Stevie Wonder)

"At Seventeen"

"I'm Your Angel" (Duet with Barnev Valsaint)

"Ne me quitte pas"

"All by Myself"

"Untitled Interlude III" (Instrumental Interlude) (contains elements of "Smooth Criminal," "Billie Jean," and "Thriller")

"Because you Loved Me (full)"

"Declaration of Love" (Instrumental Interlude)

"I'm Alive" (new version)

"River Deep, Mountain High"

Encore

"Titanic Theme" (Instrumental Interlude)

"My Heart Will Go On"

Source:[8][9][10]

Edited August 26, 2012 at 11:49 PM by Kyle_Jared