New English Album - "Water and a Flame" (Pre-Release Thread Part 1)

[Peppercorn1991]

At least we have SOME news, its really confusing and all the information contradicts each other, im confused....

 

But great to hear this news

 

kev x

[ferjaacu]

Thanks for the news !!! It'd be great to hear Celine singing something like The Silence

[Prima_Donna1]

NO WAY. It's definitely going to be a brand new studio album.

News will probably start coming next week. Next Monday is April 16, so she'll probably get back to studio that day, since René said she'd resume the recording sessions in mid-April, and Céline herself told us in her latest video message that she and her production team will keep us updated posting updates on how it's going on the official website. I honestly believe that creating an official Twitter account would have been much more practical for them when there comes to this type of things... Anyway, it's still better than nothing.

 

May it be true! I cannot wait for it.

[Prima_Donna1]

It HAS to be a new studio album!!! Its been 5 FREAKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *PULLING HAIR OUT OF MY HEAD*

 

That's nothing some artists take 10 to 20 years for an album.

[celinemaniacaik]

Something like the silence sounds good! I like the chorus more than the beggining!

[Kyle_Jared]

REDONE is a friggin incredible producer. He has made some KILLER pop records and Brought Jennifer Lopez back to the top of the Charts.

 

He could make a really great pop record for Celine and if his name is on it they'd be CRAZY not to use it as a single!

 

 

As far as Babyface is concerned, I can see him producing at seventeen cause it's a ballad and he might add a modern spin to to in production, but Redone would definitely be producing a new track

 

So hope this is true

[Shaun]

RedOne can only produce what they ask him to produce though. If they ask him to produce a radio friendly potential single then great. If they ask him to produce a cover of Mr Paganini then what's the point?

[celinesounds]

the silence should only be recorded by Celine, that sound it's completely Celine's style, would fit completely her voice

 

RedOne is the best news in 6 years, after Linda Perry as writer\ producer

[No1IrishFan]

A modern song produced by RedOne could work wonders for Celine. Take a modern song, add them unbelievable powerful vocals and it becomes an instant hit. Celine could have an even bigger hit than people like J-lo, due to the voice. 'On the floor' was a great song, but thats all it was. The song was good and catchy, but the vocals were not the best.

[Shamrock_1982]

I personally get the impression right now that they are trying to kill two birds with one stone... a brand new album and the show/vegas inspired album both recorded by mid May.

 

They have recorded and will record a number of other tracks over the coming weeks, but what will be released and in which order is still undecided at present ( I think ) as various feedback is displaying... it is still up in the air.

Edited April 11, 2012 at 09:49 PM by Shamrock29

[dj4celine]

"The Silence" by Alexandra Burke is my fav track of hers. When I first heard it, I immediately associated it with Celine, but Alex did an amazing job with the song. The production is slick and her vocals are prime.

 

But then again, like what Shaun said, it would be totally useless if his dance-track, R&B jam talents are wasted in producing a cover. Remember what happened with NeYo, The Dream, Christopher Tricky etc on Taking Chances. They came with good album tracks but none of them could have worked as singles.

 

But this is definitely positive news.

[celinemaniacaik]

I agree with Shaun, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY WANT HIM TO DO.

[Javito]

I completely agree that it matters a lot what they want to do with these producers and the songs. If all these producers and big names we've been hearing during the past 2 years are just called to put their touch in a cover song, they will be totally wasting their time and talent This has to be for good = ORIGINAL material. Edited April 11, 2012 at 09:46 PM by Javito

[pat200]

this Redone track could be for the 2013 english album. wasnt she supposed to release one this year based on her show, then a french and then a totally new english one in 2013?

[mebe]

wow I'm really excited about RedOne working with Celine. What a great news!!!

[ferjaacu]

this Redone track could be for the 2013 english album. wasnt she supposed to release one this year based on her show, then a french and then a totally new english one in 2013?

 

Yeah... Maybe it is for the next one and not for the one we're supposed to get this year...

[stevo]

Everyone was ranting about the great producers on Taking Chances and we had NeYo etc- but who knws about I Got Nothin Left apart from us? Take Mariah's Angel Cry with NeYo- incredible- video- promoted- big hit. Celine wants to have that and I don't think she does

[Davey84]

This was in the general thread, but I think it belongs here more:

 

Btw, I just want to let everyone know that Vito Luprano won't be working with Céline anymore. He's working with a new yong singer called Kristina Maria. In this article that was in La Presse today, it says that since there is this new singer, he promised her that he wouldn't be working with anyone else but her, plus, René agrees that it's better when you only have one artist­. So, all this to say, she'll not be working with Vito Luprano for the next album, for sure. Kristina Maria is also working with Aldo Nova and Billy Steinberg, as well as Kristian Lundin...

Just so that we know...

Cyberpresse- Vito Luprano: De Céline à Kristina Maria

 

 

YAY!!! Finally some fresh air in her life!! He did an amazing job, but IMO Céline has been working too long with the same people! Let someone else bring new ideas into the studio

 

 

thanks to c'line-rc for the news

Edited April 12, 2012 at 06:45 AM by Davey84

[Javito]

Why Vito Luprano abandoned the ship after so many years and albums with Céline? Wasn't him who left Sony or something?

 

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if he got fed up of seeing always the worst songs being promoted as singles when there were far better choices

Edited April 12, 2012 at 08:42 AM by Javito

[Céline's Blues]

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if he got fed up of seeing always the worst songs being promoted as singles when there were far better choices

Way to go jumping to conclusions. As if he didn't have anything better to do than taking care of Céline's couldn't care less attitude in music. I would be fed up, too.

[pepillo90]

Everyone was ranting about the great producers on Taking Chances and we had NeYo etc- but who knws about I Got Nothin Left apart from us? Take Mariah's Angel Cry with NeYo- incredible- video- promoted- big hit. Celine wants to have that and I don't think she does

 

 

Actually that she may be working with RedOne for me it isn't anything exciting... And here's the point. NeYo has some amazing stuff, as well as RedOne, who's an amazing producer and I LOOOOVE all her work with Gaga, for example, but if we're gonna have another "I Got Nothin' Left" (which I think it's quite poor and a song to skip) is better not to stain the name of RedOne with a collaboration with Celine... I know my words are harsh, but they are playing in a completely different leagues.

 

However I hope that the result is gonna be amazing. Fingers crossed.

[Your_Su_Phu]

So it was all good that Celine didn't write her own songs as long as Vito was producing them, but suddenly it matters now?

 

And I've always thought that maybe part of the reason her albums have been so stale for over a decade is that she's been working with the same core team time and time again. It's good to move on and try new things!

 

PS, I have to LOL at people who can't wait for her to record songs by all of these hip modern producers. Celine doesn't do "hip". Her uptempo songs almost always resort to her singing in an awkward accented chipmunk voice and embarrassing herself. No thanks.

Edited April 12, 2012 at 03:47 PM by Your_Su_Phu

[fred]

Yea we could get dramatically hopeful about this (as always do when a hip name comes along), it COULD get well. But haven't we've seen too many times when we have hoped for greateness just mediocre results?

 

Yes Babyface could had brought At Seventheen to the new millenium. But chances are high he just done a nicer karaoke recording to fit the Céline team's idea about doing a new interpretion.

 

And no I highly doubt we'll get two albums (English) this year. This album will probably be as schizo asany other Céline album. They cannot ever seem to get their act together with a coherent "sound" throughout a larger part of an album.

 

I hate to be the downer about this. But we shouldn't put our hopes way too high. Sadly when it has comes to Céline projects, this only leads to us getting upset and grumpy.

 

It's better that we set our minds on the regular concept: songs and sounds with the same coherence as any other compilation of best of tracks, and some covers which are as close to the original as possible. And who knows, some of the tracks might be very nice and enjoyable.

 

(Add to that a promo made up of the old regular tracks as dominating - BYLM, MHWGO, IDAN, LCMM - and one song from the new album as a side dish with booring salad they'd rather be without)

 

/fred

[Celine Fan 77]

Next year's English album is, for me, going to be her TRUE come back to the industry.

[Peppercorn1991]

Next year's English album is, for me, going to be her TRUE come back to the industry.

 

Dont be so hopeful on a new album next year, i think it was only rumors and even if it was a decision, decisions change EVERYTIME!

 

kev x

[Bell]

Yea we could get dramatically hopeful about this (as always do when a hip name comes along), it COULD get well. But haven't we've seen too many times when we have hoped for greateness just mediocre results?

 

Yes Babyface could had brought At Seventheen to the new millenium. But chances are high he just done a nicer karaoke recording to fit the Céline team's idea about doing a new interpretion.

 

And no I highly doubt we'll get two albums (English) this year. This album will probably be as schizo asany other Céline album. They cannot ever seem to get their act together with a coherent "sound" throughout a larger part of an album.

 

I hate to be the downer about this. But we shouldn't put our hopes way too high. Sadly when it has comes to Céline projects, this only leads to us getting upset and grumpy.

 

It's better that we set our minds on the regular concept: songs and sounds with the same coherence as any other compilation of best of tracks, and some covers which are as close to the original as possible. And who knows, some of the tracks might be very nice and enjoyable.

 

(Add to that a promo made up of the old regular tracks as dominating - BYLM, MHWGO, IDAN, LCMM - and one song from the new album as a side dish with booring salad they'd rather be without)

 

/fred

I have to agree with you. Truth does hurt sometimes...

[GoldenLeaf]

Everyone was ranting about the great producers on Taking Chances and we had NeYo etc- but who knws about I Got Nothin Left apart from us? Take Mariah's Angel Cry with NeYo- incredible- video- promoted- big hit. Celine wants to have that and I don't think she does

Nobody cares about ''Angels Cry'' apart from the Lambs. This cheap song was a massive FLOP all over the world.

 

I don't understand why you claim it was a big hit when in fact it wasn't.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_Cry_(s...art_performance

Edited April 12, 2012 at 05:52 PM by Calypso

[GoldenLeaf]

Celine is currently working with RedOne for her upcoming English album, a famous producer who has worked with artists like Lady Gaga, Shakira and, more recently, U2. I hope the new couple of tracks have a more dance touch than the rest of the record.

 

Source

 

This is the same site that claimed back in 2007 that Celine was working with Timbaland.

 

I don't want to burst everyone's bubble here but chartsinfrance.net is a totally unreliable source.

Edited April 12, 2012 at 05:51 PM by Calypso

[Bell]

Nobody cares about Angel Cry apart from the Lambs. This cheap song was a massive FLOP all over the world.

That was rude. It's actually a good song, good lyrics... Not being at #1 doesn't make it a flop 'cause if this was true then many Celine songs would have been flops, too.

[LVCeline]

The biggest problem right is that Celine doesn't care at all about music anymore and it shows. She enjoys performing so she does the Vegas show, but I don't see any interest at all from her to put out new, fresh, exciting music anymore. Any album she does is just an obligation to her record company and we shouldn't expect anything more than just a collection of new Celine songs on record. We shouldn't expect top producers, and top production, and anything remotely relevent to today's music until she starts to take a bigger interest. Her life for the last 10 years has just become about being a mother and doing concerts. All her interviews focus on her home life, there is nothing interesting about her music career and she never discusses it. We are expecting too much at this stage I think. Until she starts to show some interest and a spark, we'll just get the same old stuff from her and we shouldn't expect anything more if you ask me. It only results in mass disappointment.