Celine's voice

[puttybuddy]

I think Celine still has many more great vocal years ahead of her and no matter how many Beyonce's, Brittney's, or Lady Gaga's there are in the years to come, no one could ever come close to Celine's stature. She is one of a kind!!

[GoldenLeaf]

I think her voice now, since her Oprah 2010 appearence where she sang Hallelujah was and is better than the Taking Chances area. I think her voice now is closer to 2002/A New Day Has Come, with the new sharpness than she had in the mid 90's. Taking Chances area was nasally. She isn't as nasal as she was then, I think the vocal rest, and definantly the training helped.

 

In some ways, and some songs I think she sounds more powerful than ever- WDMHBN, Goldfinger, POL end note, The Reason [lipped or not they sound better today than every, in my opinion.] Her voice has a fluidity and grace than was previously lacking.

Yeah, however the beginning of the Taking Chances era was vocally amazing IMO and not nasal at all.

 

A few examples :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUkSa2dwTvk

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdYtLqI4Gs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNL6MO2IyQQ

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Ua44JYPLM

Edited June 5, 2011 at 11:41 PM by Calypso

[volleyceline]

^ Because you loved me was DEFINETLY nasal, has been for a while.

[chrisscott1990]

Everybodys voice changes as they get older. Look at Julie Andrews (pre throat op) and Barbra Streisand how theur voices changed. Its Gorgeous!

[ImACelineDionFan]

Personally, I think shes gotten better!

[ilove.celine]

... i love celine's voice no matter what happened.....

[smw]

Of course Celine's voice has changed. Her voice sounded great during most of the promotion for Taking Chances -- considering she was STILL doing the Vegas show at the same time!

 

I think, overall, Celine has really respected her voice. Look at Whitney Houston. Whitney (like Celine) had one of the greatest voices of all time… and destroyed it all on her own.

 

I think Celine found a way to get through shows (during A New Day…) to sound good enough without damaging her vocal chords. So she didn't try as hard and there was certainly some lipping.

 

But she has protected her voice. And she has the capability to sound incredible for decades to come. She was spectacular for those first block of shows this year in Vegas.

[ilove.celine]

Of course Celine's voice has changed. Her voice sounded great during most of the promotion for Taking Chances -- considering she was STILL doing the Vegas show at the same time!

 

I think, overall, Celine has really respected her voice. Look at Whitney Houston. Whitney (like Celine) had one of the greatest voices of all time… and destroyed it all on her own.

 

I think Celine found a way to get through shows (during A New Day…) to sound good enough without damaging her vocal chords. So she didn't try as hard and there was certainly some lipping.

 

But she has protected her voice. And she has the capability to sound incredible for decades to come. She was spectacular for those first block of shows this year in Vegas.

 

i totally agree to you.... you know i watched some of the videos of celine in youtube with her latest concert in vegas and most of them got disappointed becoz celine lipped some part of her song. they didn't even think tht celine doing that for us, so that he could perform for more coming years for us.....

[sfbaysinger]

I hate that she has to do it, I don't think she needs to, but I do like the idea that almost everything she does, she does it for us so she can continue. That's dedication.

I know a lot of people here think her voice has gone downhill, I think not. I think it has matured in to something lovely and beautiful, an elegant fine wine that has only gotten better with age. Her voice is not what it used ot be...it's just as good, if not better than ever and every day I love her more!

[LVCeline]

About her voice changing, I think it's had its ups and downs like it always has. Yeah of course it's changed. That's an objective statement and doesn't necessarily have to be negative. Change doesn't always equal bad...Aside from her VOICE changing, just about everything else has as well..her style, her hair, her age, her priorities...she had a child, and now has 2 more. She's done the Vegas commitment twice now, she's done a world tour, she's pretty much been constantly busy and things will surely change for all those reasons. She's already stated before that her voice isn't her top priority since having children, so I don't know why people expect it to sound the same as it always did.

 

She has more bad moments these days than she did in the 90's, yes, but if you listen to old performances, her voice has always been nasal..I think it's more dramatic now because her voice has matured and deepened...nasal sounds worse with a lower voice. Listen to Seduces Me on Live in Memphis...she definitely gets nasal on the high note there, but her voice was higher so it didn't sound as awful as it did in Vegas.

 

Also consider she was in her 20's in the 90's and now she's in her 40's...she was very disciplined back in those days and she's not as much now...she's also been pregnant which apparently lowers your voice...there's lots of factors that people need to consider. When you go "what in god's name has happened to her voice" these days, there are factors you need to consider. It's not because lack of use (if anything overuse), or drugs or alcohol, etc..any change in her voice is primarily just nature, and things she can't help too much aside from constant training..

 

I hope people aren't taking away from her amazing performances she's had in the last decade though, I mean she has done some great live work, though like I said, it's just not 100% of the time like it used to be. It can definitely be hit or miss, but she's still out there, still has a great voice, and still has a lot to offer her fans.

[medley]

She is a Lyric Soprano and the best there is on the planet.

 

Is she a Lyric? I read somewhere that she was a mezzo soprano.

[GoldenLeaf]

Is she a Lyric? I read somewhere that she was a mezzo soprano.

According to maestro Kent Negano, she's a lyric soprano.

[Miguel&Justin]

I for one LOVE her voice now, i love going back and listening to songs like Ce N'etait Qu'un Reve at star academy in 2009, and because you loved me with ellen in 2007 of course hallelujah with oprah and as well lullaby but her recent live recordings from "Celine" just blow me away time after time! Of course her voice changed, i think if she was 43 and sang like a 20 year old people would be like O_o and probably a little freaked out, her voice has to match her age, and for me it sounds younger then it should, look at whitney and mariah, need i say more? Even now christina aguilera cant sing the same as before and she is young! How will she sound when shes celines age? Celine does an amazing job of taking care of her voice, she could do more like maybe not so many consecutive shows, id prefer her to rest her voice and appear every once in a while on a talk show or award show with a rested voice, but either way im in love with her voice so much right now, to me shes a mature woman with an instrument shes been practicing for years and now finally can play it however and whenever she wants, shes an expert at it and is comfortable with it.

[Je_Rob]

Celine voice has been changing through the years since ALWAYS not only because her VOICE actually was changing, it was because trough the years Celine has been using different techniques to manage her voice in each album for example in Falling In To You album the sound was more soft and "young" then in 1997 Let's Talk About Love we can hear an almost 30 year old woman with a more solid voice; I also wanna talk about the 2003 to 2006 period of Nasal, strange and different voice (which is true Celine since 2003 to 2006 had to deal with something very normal in everybody's life CHANGES in voice due to age). On the documentary A New Day The Secrets Celine by herself revealed that like a month before the premiere of her show A New Day in 2003 she became very ill and lost a few weeks of rehearsals which is very important to bring to the table because sometimes serious illness in our respiratory system or vocal cords such as Laryngitis can seriously affect the voice. In the Opening Night of the show which was transmitted by CBS we can hear that Celine was having problems connecting her chest voice and was "Saving" herself putting her voice in a more NASAL way , that's the first clue that actually tell us that it was difficult for her to hit the highest notes and then come to a soft and sweet technique, probably the KEYS were still too high and Celine voice was changing and taking a more lower tone. In the A New Day Concert DVD which was recorded in 2007 we can hear that the Power Of Love song was in a lower key as well My heart Will Go On and some others. Changes in a woman voice as they grow older is completely normal and as it's goes down it gets rich in melody and harmonies. Celine's voice during the firsts years of the show A New Day was different but it was because of the changes that she was going trough, even though Celine always sounds and has sounded amazing in all her voices stages she is great and has the voice of an angel. Now on the new show evertbody has to say it her voice is at her PEAK! she sounds powerful and greater than never before.

[volleyceline]

^ Definitely

[Tyler1991]

Celine voice has been changing through the years since ALWAYS not only because her VOICE actually was changing, it was because trough the years Celine has been using different techniques to manage her voice in each album for example in Falling In To You album the sound was more soft and "young" then in 1997 Let's Talk About Love we can hear an almost 30 year old woman with a more solid voice; I also wanna talk about the 2003 to 2006 period of Nasal, strange and different voice (which is true Celine since 2003 to 2006 had to deal with something very normal in everybody's life CHANGES in voice due to age). On the documentary A New Day The Secrets Celine by herself revealed that like a month before the premiere of her show A New Day in 2003 she became very ill and lost a few weeks of rehearsals which is very important to bring to the table because sometimes serious illness in our respiratory system or vocal cords such as Laryngitis can seriously affect the voice. In the Opening Night of the show which was transmitted by CBS we can hear that Celine was having problems connecting her chest voice and was "Saving" herself putting her voice in a more NASAL way , that's the first clue that actually tell us that it was difficult for her to hit the highest notes and then come to a soft and sweet technique, probably the KEYS were still too high and Celine voice was changing and taking a more lower tone. In the A New Day Concert DVD which was recorded in 2007 we can hear that the Power Of Love song was in a lower key as well My heart Will Go On and some others. Changes in a woman voice as they grow older is completely normal and as it's goes down it gets rich in melody and harmonies. Celine's voice during the firsts years of the show A New Day was different but it was because of the changes that she was going trough, even though Celine always sounds and has sounded amazing in all her voices stages she is great and has the voice of an angel. Now on the new show evertbody has to say it her voice is at her PEAK! she sounds powerful and greater than never before.

 

I wouldn't list that as evidence when those songs technically weren't sung at all.

[volleyceline]

Tyler calm down He's a new member, don't scare him. Edited August 15, 2011 at 02:14 AM by volleyceline

[Tyler1991]

I'm quite calm, thankyou.

[Celine Fan 77]

Tyler's right, we can't take these songs as an example; I'd rather say Because You Loved Me.

[I Love You]

I think her voice, is amazing right now. I swear, it's ten times better than last year, and during A New Day. Thanks, to her feeding her boys.

[empress]

You guys really think she lipped MHWGO? That song doesn't seem as difficult, vocally, as some of her others. Plus, she takes such pains to warm up, do vocal exercises and make sure the humidity is there for every performance. I'm not challenging anyone, but I just wondered if there is proof of lip syncing? Videos don't necessarily count unless there is a mistake made by the artist (or the artist is Britney Spears! haha).

[Celine Fan 77]

It's not that we think she lipsynchs it, it's that we know that she lipsynchs it.

[volleyceline]

It's not that we think she lipsynchs it, it's that we know that she lipsynchs it.

 

He wasn't asking if you knew, empress was asking for proof...

[Tyler1991]

Of course there is proof.

 

She has had thousands of concerts, which we have footage of. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and see that there is definitely some playback going on.

 

Additionally, I find it amazing how high of a pedistal some of you put Celine on. Despite that, nobody, including her, would ever be perfect enough to imitate word for word, note for note, syllable for syllable in the exact same identical form for over 1200 performances over a near 20 year period.

[wjd]

Of course there is proof.

 

She has had thousands of concerts, which we have footage of. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and see that there is definitely some playback going on.

 

Additionally, I find it amazing how high of a pedistal some of you put Celine on. Despite that, nobody, including her, would ever be perfect enough to imitate word for word, note for note, syllable for syllable in the exact same identical form for over 1200 performances over a near 20 year period.

 

Whilst I do agree with most of what you say, I think you find more validation in criticising her than praising her, which is absolutely fine. But let me make it point clear right now, there is not a SINGLE mainstream female performer that has worked harder or performed in more live headlining shows than Celine Dion in the last 20 years. The sort of toll that her material takes on a human voice - and as you yourself allude to, she is after all a human being - is ungodly. 95% of repertoire requires belting.

 

What does annoy me is the blatant extent to which some of her "fans" will go to try and cover it up; there is no need. Celine gets her due now, most reasonable people understand that she has to lip some of her material.

[justinecoria]

But let me make it point clear right now, there is not a SINGLE mainstream female performer that has worked harder or performed in more live headlining shows than Celine Dion in the last 20 years. The sort of toll that her material takes on a human voice - and as you yourself allude to, she is after all a human being - is ungodly.

Yeah, and ? Don't come tell us that it's been difficult for her doing that. She just has to be there every night, miming the difficult songs and doing the strict minimum for the rest.

At the beginning of her career, she made great sacrifices. What she's doing now is easy. What's the point of giving concerts every nights, if it's for lip-synching. There's no sincerity in lip-synching. She's doing it for money (and I can understand that).

 

And I don't agree with you on one other thing. People don't know she lip-synchs. And worse, they deliberately try to deceive us. And that's the biggest disappointment for me. They're putting so much effort for making her show look live, because they know that if people knew, they wouldn't go see her at LV.

Edited August 18, 2011 at 04:44 PM by justinecoria

[empress]

This is exactly why I was asking. Video recordings are deceiving. There is no way to tell for sure whether a person is lipping or not. I feel disappointed at the thought that Celine, with her beautiful voice, is doing that. I am not, however, saying that I think it is "impossible" that Celine is lip syncing. Not at all. She may very well be.

 

I just wondered if anyone had concrete proof. Is there a musician or tour crew person that knows of recorded songs being used? Also, I always wonder how they (musicians) pull off lip syncing when they have a band with them. Thoughts on that are welcome also.

 

I was in Las Vegas and have seen her new show. She sounded different in the mic than usual. I could hear sounds that only come from a live performance (little popping sounds with P's and notes that didn't quite get there) and was close enough to see her face clearly. But she also gave a more sedentary performance.

 

Anyway, I like this conversation and am excited to hear if anyone has solid proof and also thoughts on this subject.

[stchba]

I can almost guarantee that she DOES NOT lip synch, because i have been to several of her "Celine" shows... day after day, and it is different everytime. Sometimes she doesnt even say part of the lyric (maybe she forgets it)... or she says something to the crowd during the song... She is 100% real!! Why is it sooo hard to believe that she is supremely talented? Why does everyone second guess her talent? She is the Queen!

[I Love You]

First or pardon my French, but it really piss$s me off. when some one, comes into this topic and says that Celine lip syncs. Celine has to much of a powerful voice, to lypsync her own songs when she has done them thousands of times LIVE. Also, if she does lypsync it is to give voice a little rest. I have seen, Celine three times and I Have never heard her lypsync once. Every time, it has been live. Plus, all the time you say she lypsyncs is on tv shows. Edited August 19, 2011 at 08:08 AM by I Love You

[justinecoria]

You see. People don't know. People are fooled.

It's because she lipsyncs with a pre-recorded track, in which she, of course sings bad/nasally (to give the impression of live). Don't fool yourself, her voice is passed through computer to hit the high notes, to make her voice sound more beautiful and powerful.

Then, what she does is insert some live parts between the pre-recorded track. (I personally never understood why she lipsyncs ABM, if she didn't think she was fooling us).

And then, when the DVD comes out, her performances are dubbed by another track so that they do not compare with live excerpts on youtube etc. For the ABM note, they even put applauses behind the dubbed track.

That's why I'm saying that they're putting so much effort into deceiving us.

 

Here is one video that shows some parts of what I said :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ULgh9ClvI

Edited August 19, 2011 at 08:29 AM by justinecoria