Aviation Topic

June 30, 2011 at 05:23 AM

I love planes! I don't know why I've never seen this topic before.

I fly a lot between Washington DC and Georgia to visit my family who just moved there last summer. Augusta is a verrrrry small airport. Only two gates! :laugh:

I love flying generally, but I hate when on the flight into Augusta (after transferring in Charlotte from a 737 or A330 to a smaller plane) when I don't get a commuter jet like a CRJ but instead end up on these stupid Dash 8 planes. They're SO tiny and loud! Luckily it's only 30 minutes in the air. -_-

June 30, 2011 at 11:07 PM

The guy I like is in love with airplanes! It's all he talks about! lol! He wants to be in the air force

Yep! you caught me out :blushing1: ,live very close to the airport work at the airport and just love aviation and travel when i can 24-7 thought you might like this picture.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/0/3/1930302.jpg

I live just in one of those flats and thats the love of aviation :whee: ,not forgetting Celine of course.

CELINE RULES :flowers:

July 8, 2011 at 03:50 PM

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/012/cache/space-shuttle-atlantis_1223_600x450.jpg

:clap: A safe and final launch of the space shuttle atlantis,I will miss these launches although I have only seen a few launches :down: very impressive sight to see the launches what power.

Has anyone else seen the launches?,well you cant miss them :laugh:

CELINE RULES :flowers:

July 8, 2011 at 06:08 PM

I watched the shuttle takeoff on the news just before I boarded my flight this morning. It is exciting to think of what will be next!

Irritated with the aviation world this morning since I was delayed and missed a connection - currently waiting for the next flight in Charlotte, NC -_-

July 15, 2011 at 04:37 PM

A little bit of troubling news lets hope its resolved ,there are signs that Thomas cook could possibly find trouble ahead.

http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/news/art...morgan-stanley/

CELINE RULES

July 18, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Get your orders in for the new flying car :whee: Its had its first test and works. :clap:

http://www.terrafugia.com/

July 19, 2011 at 01:14 PM

Get your orders in for the new flying car Its had its first test and works.
http://www.terrafugia.com/

Not quite useable...

It can only lift 210kg (460lbs) so 2 persons and a bit of luggage will be -very- sharp...

It's a nice gadget but a bunch of improvements have to be made before it's a usefull object

July 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Today, July 20, 2011 is a remarkable day in the aviation history... AMR Corporation Inc, the holding behind American Airlines and American Eagle placed the largest order in aviation history. Not only did they order a massive amount of planes including a huge amount of options, they also came back on their promise to Boeing to order solely Boeing planes until 2018, a promise that AMR made to Boeing back in 1996.

The order is devided as followed:

Boeing:

Firm orders:

100 Boeing 737NG's (can include the -700/-800 or the -900) (this includes 3 options which were still open from previous orders)

100 Boeing 737RE's (can include the -700/-800 or the -900)*

7 Boeing 777-200ER's

Options:

100 Boeing 737NG/RE's in option

*the Boeing 737RE is a new, yet to develop, variant of the Boeing 737 Next Generation. The RE stands for "Re-Engined"). The project is yet to be approved by the board of Boeing and thus the "firm" order for 100 737RE's is merely a commitment to order if the project ever launches.

Airbus:

Firm orders:

130 Airbus A320 series with Sharklets (This includes the A319, A320 and A321)

130 Airbus A320NEO series (This includes the A319, A320 and A321)*

Options:

365 Airbus A320NEO series options.

*The A320NEO is a newly developed variant of the A320 series. NEO stands for "New Engine Option" and will introduce new engines.

If all options are taken and Boeing is able to launch the 737RE, then the order is valid for 932 airplanes. But at this point it is valid for 397 planes that were not allready in the books...

The Boeing's 737NG and the Airbus A320's with sharklets will be introduced in 2013. The A320NEO will be delivered in 2017, the Boeing 737RE is expected to be delivered also in 2017 if given the green light by the Boeing board.

A remarkable day to say the least...

Edited July 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM by Bralo20

July 21, 2011 at 08:58 AM

The things people do with aircraft.http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/2/4/1954429.jpg

CELINE RULES :flowers:

July 25, 2011 at 08:46 AM

The things people do with aircraft.http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/2/4/1954429.jpg
CELINE RULES

At least this Jumbo jet is decently presevered...

There are others like for example the "Juan T. Trippe" aka N747PA, the second 747 from the production line and Boeing's first 747 delivered to an airline... It was converted in Korea to a restaurant, it's wings were chopped off, the engines removed, etc... The restaurant went out of business and the hull is just sitting there full of corrosion

http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/2009%209sept%20seoul%20plane/seouls%20ruined%20jumbo%20jet%20restaurant8.jpg

http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/2009%209sept%20seoul%20plane/seouls%20ruined%20jumbo%20jet%20restaurant11.jpg

http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/2009%209sept%20seoul%20plane/seouls%20ruined%20jumbo%20jet%20restaurant9.jpg

http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/2009%209sept%20seoul%20plane/seouls%20ruined%20jumbo%20jet%20restaurant12.jpg

Such a shame that such iconic plane has such sad fate :(

Edited July 25, 2011 at 08:47 AM by Bralo20

July 25, 2011 at 05:56 PM

What is your favorite aircraft to fly in?

July 25, 2011 at 06:49 PM

What is your favorite aircraft to fly in?

From a passengers point of view:

Long haul: Boeing 777

Short/mid haul: Airbus A320 series

From an aviation geek point of view:

Simple the one and only "queen of the skies"... The Boeing 747... :wub:

July 25, 2011 at 06:51 PM

What about the new king of the skies - the A380!

I think the 757 is my favorite for domestic flights. :yes: I feel a bit too cramped in the A320 series.

And I always feel like I'm flying in a commuter jet anyway these days, so it's a treat to be in something bigger! Being 6'2" and all legs has its disadvantages when flying

Edited July 25, 2011 at 06:53 PM by riobeard11

July 25, 2011 at 06:58 PM

From a passengers point of view:

Long haul: Boeing 777
Short/mid haul: Airbus A320 series

From an aviation geek point of view:

Simple the one and only "queen of the skies"... The Boeing 747...

I myself I am more in to Boeing fleet

Long haul: Boeing 747/767/ 777

Short/ Mid haul Boeing 737/757

puddle hoppers : DHC6/ DHC8

July 25, 2011 at 07:14 PM

I really don't like the turboprop puddle hoppers - I prefer the Canadair or Embraer regional jets. Little bit more comfortable and less noise!

July 26, 2011 at 09:02 AM

How about staying at these hotels

http://inhabitat.com/east-german-airplane-...sh-hotel-suite/

http://inhabitat.com/reclaimed-jumbo-jet-h...ed-waste-hotel/

CELINE RULES :flowers:

August 14, 2011 at 07:02 AM

Flash mob on a hawaiian Airlines pretty cool :clap:

CELINE HAS WON THE HEARTS OF MILLION,CELINE RULE. :flowers:

August 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM

What about the new king of the skies - the A380!

I think the 757 is my favorite for domestic flights. I feel a bit too cramped in the A320 series.
And I always feel like I'm flying in a commuter jet anyway these days, so it's a treat to be in something bigger! Being 6'2" and all legs has its disadvantages when flying

The A380? The Whalejet? It's not even the prince of the skies let alone the king of the skies... It's a simple bloody ugly whale... :icon_mrgreen:

While the A388 may fly good (it's nicely quiet and spacey) I just don't like the jet at all... It's oversized, it's ugly, it's ... Oh well, it's not the nicest plane arround...

A while ago I flew ith the 752 from UA between IAD and LAS and it's quite a nice plane, especially since it's quite powerfull at take-off. It's quite spacey compared to it's little brother the 737 which feels cramped right from the first moment you set a foot on board. However, I find the A32S nicer to fly with, I find it more stable then an 752 for example. 2 years ago I landed at IAH in a terrible storm with buckets of rain and quite a desent amount of wind. Add some thunder and lighting and you'll have a decent spectacle at the windows Well, the A320 flew very stable through the storm and landed very smoothly (and that's in a "light" jet, not a widebody). I've done something comparable with the 752 and I found it a bit wobly. But like said, that's probably personal.

If you feel to cramped in an A32S then you should definately avoid the 737 which is way more terrible then the A32S... Yes, the 757 is even more spaceous but compared to the 737 I like the A32S -a lot-.

I'm 6'7" so I know what you're talking about Here in Europe I only fly business class (and preferable teh first row) because I can't fit otherwise due my long legs... To and from the USA I always use my preference carrier United Airlines which has a "Economy Plus" section which offers a bit more space but even there I always take the bulkhead if my upgrade to business doesn't go through. Same applies to the USA, always UA Economy Plus unless my upgrade passes then I fly first.

Regarding commuters... The Embraer E-jet, the E170/175/190/195 is a wonderfull plane to fly with, it feels like you are flying with a bigger jet, it offers plenty of space and it flies very nice. All others, jets (like the Bombardier CRJ series for example) or turboprops (Like the Dash 8) are in my "to avoid" list. I once flew with a AC Jazz CRJ jet and it was my worst flight ever, no more CRJ's or ERJ's for me... And definately not small turboprops...

August 18, 2011 at 01:44 AM

I do agree the "whale" is not attractive (the "queen" is a VERY nice looking aircraft!) - but the options certain airlines have chosen for A388 the inside are pretty cool with the private suites!

And 6'7" :eek: I can't even imagine how horrible it is to be crammed into a Dash 8 - they're horrible enough for the average height! And then sitting window is horrendous when you can't even sit up straight. :doh:

September 6, 2011 at 04:20 PM

Hi, Concorde at Manchester has been powered up for the first time since October 2003. :clap: It would be nice to see one flying again.

Crazy idea! Perhaps Celine and all her fans could sponsor one, I would be up for it get one flying again for British and French aviation heritage?

Two very beautiful powerful Ladys That would be awsome and how cool would that be.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Steviedesa#p/a/u/0/13vS64zBI9s

CELINE RULES :flowers:

September 10, 2011 at 08:22 AM

Hi, Concorde at Manchester has been powered up for the first time since October 2003. It would be nice to see one flying again.
Crazy idea! Perhaps Celine and all her fans could sponsor one, I would be up for it get one flying again for British and French aviation heritage?
Two very beautiful powerful Ladys That would be awsome and how cool would that be.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Steviedesa#p/a/u/0/13vS64zBI9s
CELINE RULES

Some further information on the the Concorde.

http://www.saveconcordegroup.co.uk/news/co...es-alive-again/

CELINE RULES

Edited September 10, 2011 at 08:23 AM by robert sadler

September 12, 2011 at 08:54 AM

Hi, Concorde at Manchester has been powered up for the first time since October 2003. It would be nice to see one flying again.
Crazy idea! Perhaps Celine and all her fans could sponsor one, I would be up for it get one flying again for British and French aviation heritage?
Two very beautiful powerful Ladys That would be awsome and how cool would that be.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Steviedesa#p/a/u/0/13vS64zBI9s
CELINE RULES

Robert,

Sorry to disappoint you but there is a "small" issue regarding the flyworthy of the Concorde.

Technically, the Concorde preserved at the Le Bourget museum seems to be in the best shape and there is a slight chance that she'll be able to taxi on own power one day in the future. But unfortunately there it's where it will end...

AFAIK, there aren't any spareparts available for the Concorde. So each part that needs to be replaced has to be custom made. Then these parts have to be certified and tested. This is necessary for even a single screw... So you can understand that it would cost a big amount of money... Let's say that you have indeed money to have 1 bird made flyworthy... Think about 10's of millions of USD... Just to have one plane ready...

And when it's ready then the biggest problem of all rises at the horizon... The Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde doesn't have a valid Type Certificate. The certificate is been pulled by EADS (owner of Airbus and the late Aerospatiale), so legally the plane can't fly. So no Airworthiness Certificate can be issued by any country.

So no type certificate, no airworthiness certificate leaves one option (ok, maybe 2 options)... A manufacturar has always some "experimental" registrations, these are registrations to test planes, either before a type certificate is issued, for ferry flights without permanent registrations or for tests before delivery. So Airbus (EADS) can use an experimental registration to fly the plane (EMPTY that is, no paying customers allowed). But... Airbus isn't any any rush to have a Concorde flying... In fact, they have a Concorde (Foxtrot Charlie) at Toulouse which they kept airworthy for years in case they needed it for the trial, even that plane never flew again since 2003... And Airbus said in the past that they have no intention at all to release the type certificate again so the old planes will be able to fly (legally). They simply won't have the risk that something happens again on "their watch" so they keep the certificate so nobody can fly the planes again. The second option is to have a ferry permit, afaik this is possible without a valid type certificat but this is also very costly, very restricted and a one time deal, it's not permanent...

So there we are... At this point there is absolutely 0 chance that they'll ever fly again...

So even with 100 million USD (maybe you'll get a plane airworthy for that figure) you'll get nowhere... No paper = no flying

To bad actually since I would pay big bucks to cross the ocean with the Concorde...

Edited September 12, 2011 at 08:55 AM by Bralo20

September 12, 2011 at 01:21 PM

Robert,

Sorry to disappoint you but there is a "small" issue regarding the flyworthy of the Concorde.
Technically, the Concorde preserved at the Le Bourget museum seems to be in the best shape and there is a slight chance that she'll be able to taxi on own power one day in the future. But unfortunately there it's where it will end...

AFAIK, there aren't any spareparts available for the Concorde. So each part that needs to be replaced has to be custom made. Then these parts have to be certified and tested. This is necessary for even a single screw... So you can understand that it would cost a big amount of money... Let's say that you have indeed money to have 1 bird made flyworthy... Think about 10's of millions of USD... Just to have one plane ready...

And when it's ready then the biggest problem of all rises at the horizon... The Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde doesn't have a valid Type Certificate. The certificate is been pulled by EADS (owner of Airbus and the late Aerospatiale), so legally the plane can't fly. So no Airworthiness Certificate can be issued by any country.

So no type certificate, no airworthiness certificate leaves one option (ok, maybe 2 options)... A manufacturar has always some "experimental" registrations, these are registrations to test planes, either before a type certificate is issued, for ferry flights without permanent registrations or for tests before delivery. So Airbus (EADS) can use an experimental registration to fly the plane (EMPTY that is, no paying customers allowed). But... Airbus isn't any any rush to have a Concorde flying... In fact, they have a Concorde (Foxtrot Charlie) at Toulouse which they kept airworthy for years in case they needed it for the trial, even that plane never flew again since 2003... And Airbus said in the past that they have no intention at all to release the type certificate again so the old planes will be able to fly (legally). They simply won't have the risk that something happens again on "their watch" so they keep the certificate so nobody can fly the planes again. The second option is to have a ferry permit, afaik this is possible without a valid type certificat but this is also very costly, very restricted and a one time deal, it's not permanent...

So there we are... At this point there is absolutely 0 chance that they'll ever fly again...
So even with 100 million USD (maybe you'll get a plane airworthy for that figure) you'll get nowhere... No paper = no flying
To bad actually since I would pay big bucks to cross the ocean with the Concorde...

I do agree with what you say and fully aware of all the above,a interesting look at how the Vulcan bomber has managed to get airbourne again with a lot of hard work and support I would guess they even may alternative answers, I would think with the similar additional support from hertiage aviation enthusiasts and fans a like world wide even may be Celine could make this happen as some of it is in place just for one single Concorde to fly again just for at least air displays promoting her show only.

I am going to the extreme here but here we go,

It still would be nice to see her Airbourne again how about with a Celine logo on her just one of made ideas pretty good promotional advertisement.

CELINE RULES :flowers:

September 12, 2011 at 02:36 PM

I do agree with what you say and fully aware of all the above,a interesting look at how the Vulcan bomber has managed to get airbourne again with a lot of hard work and support I would guess they even may alternative answers, I would think with the similar additional support from hertiage aviation enthusiasts and fans a like world wide even may be Celine could make this happen as some of it is in place just for one single Concorde to fly again just for at least air displays promoting her show only.
I am going to the extreme here but here we go,
It still would be nice to see her Airbourne again how about with a Celine logo on her just one of made ideas pretty good promotional advertisement.
CELINE RULES

I get your point with the Vulcan, however there is 1 big difference with the Concorde... Let me explain it as simple as possible:

Avro (later became BAE) never revoked the type certificate for the Vulcan. So as long as you have a plane with the necessary paperwork and you can prove it's airworthy there isn't much that can keep the plane from flying after the plane has been inspected by the Civil Aviation Authority. This is why even planes like the Junkers Ju-52 are still able to fly. Junkers (later Messerschmit even later EADS) never revoked the type certificate of that particular plane, this is the reason why Lufthansa can even use their Ju-52 in scheduled passenger services (yes, scheduled services with a +70yo plane)...

But with Concorde it's quite different. Concorde had only 2 operators: British Airways and Air France (Singapore Airlines and Braniff through wetlease in a very brief period). Those 2 operators decided back in 2003 that the Concorde era would end. They would stop flying them because of the incident and because of the economics of the plane (which was the official reason and is actually rubish since both operators made very big money with the planes even when the fuelprices went through the sky). So at that point asked Airbus at both operators: is this the end? Are you going to fly them ever again? Are you going to sell them for further use? Both answered "no"... None had any intention to fly them again, British Airways even destroyed the avionics in several of their planes "just to be sure" that they would never be able to fly... So Airbus (EADS) said: oh well, then we revoke the type certificate, that way we are sure nobody will ever fly them again... Revoking an type certificate is like destroying all the paperwork for the certification (which didn't happen by the way, but to give an example wat it means)... When you revoke a type certificate the plane doesn't exist anymore... It's like it's never been build...

To be able to fly again EADS needs to re-instate the type certificate of the plane. Most likely this means some recertification for the plane. New tests, etc...

So let's be optimistic... Those planes haven't been flown since 8 years... Most of the British Airways planes have their avionics destroyed, only 2 Air France birds are capable of being restored into flying state, maybe 1 British Airways bird. None of the others can be restored "cheaply"... Let's say that at least a C-check is necessary to start with. Maybe even a D-check... 10's of millions are needed to be able to get it airworthy again... Recertification, etc... optimistic between 50 to 100 million USD for 1 plane (and it will be most likely arround 100 million)... 1 plane... 100 million USD... As much as an aviation geek I am, as much as I love to see the Concorde flying again... 100 million can be spend much better then to use for a Concorde... With 100 million USD think about what you can do... I would rather give that money to charities then invest it in a plane which you never know is able to fly again...

It's not an Avro Vulcan, It's not a Dakota, It's not "aunt Ju", it's not even a Boeing 747-100 prototype, it's a plane that was build on very limited scale... That's a difference of 10's of millions of Dollars... It's easier to get an 80 year old plane (or even wreck) that was build on big scale in the air then a 40 year old Concorde with low hours and nearly no wear...

Sorry to burst your bubble

September 12, 2011 at 02:48 PM

By the way...

Regarding G-BOAC:

Mark:G-BOAC Current Reg. Date:11/08/1980

Previous ID: De-Reg. Date:04/05/2004

Status:De-registered To:

Reason:Permanently withdrawn from use

Regarding the type certificate:

Type Certificate Data Sheet Information

TCDS Number:

A45EU

Status:

Surrendered

(e.g., "Revoked", "Surrendered", "Suspended", "Public domain", or blank)

TCDS:

a45eu.pdf

Revision Number:

3 Product Type:

Aircraft

Revision Date:

24/11/2009 Product Subtype:

Large Airplane

Responsible Office:

ANM-116 Transport Airplane Directorate International Branch Tel: (425) 227-2112

TC Holder:

British Aerospace and Societe Nationale Industrielle Aerospatiale

Short Name:

Full Text of TCDS:

To make it short:

The type certificate was cancelled on November 24, 2009. Only VALID airworthiness certificates before these date can be used. However not a single plane had a valid airworthiness certificate at that date, every single one was expired.

This means that since November 24, 2009 not a single Concorde can be registered again and be issued a valid airworthiness certificate due the fact that the type certificate doesn't exist anymore.

Sorry

September 13, 2011 at 01:25 PM

I get your point with the Vulcan, however there is 1 big difference with the Concorde... Let me explain it as simple as possible:

Avro (later became BAE) never revoked the type certificate for the Vulcan. So as long as you have a plane with the necessary paperwork and you can prove it's airworthy there isn't much that can keep the plane from flying after the plane has been inspected by the Civil Aviation Authority. This is why even planes like the Junkers Ju-52 are still able to fly. Junkers (later Messerschmit even later EADS) never revoked the type certificate of that particular plane, this is the reason why Lufthansa can even use their Ju-52 in scheduled passenger services (yes, scheduled services with a +70yo plane)...

But with Concorde it's quite different. Concorde had only 2 operators: British Airways and Air France (Singapore Airlines and Braniff through wetlease in a very brief period). Those 2 operators decided back in 2003 that the Concorde era would end. They would stop flying them because of the incident and because of the economics of the plane (which was the official reason and is actually rubish since both operators made very big money with the planes even when the fuelprices went through the sky). So at that point asked Airbus at both operators: is this the end? Are you going to fly them ever again? Are you going to sell them for further use? Both answered "no"... None had any intention to fly them again, British Airways even destroyed the avionics in several of their planes "just to be sure" that they would never be able to fly... So Airbus (EADS) said: oh well, then we revoke the type certificate, that way we are sure nobody will ever fly them again... Revoking an type certificate is like destroying all the paperwork for the certification (which didn't happen by the way, but to give an example wat it means)... When you revoke a type certificate the plane doesn't exist anymore... It's like it's never been build...

To be able to fly again EADS needs to re-instate the type certificate of the plane. Most likely this means some recertification for the plane. New tests, etc...
So let's be optimistic... Those planes haven't been flown since 8 years... Most of the British Airways planes have their avionics destroyed, only 2 Air France birds are capable of being restored into flying state, maybe 1 British Airways bird. None of the others can be restored "cheaply"... Let's say that at least a C-check is necessary to start with. Maybe even a D-check... 10's of millions are needed to be able to get it airworthy again... Recertification, etc... optimistic between 50 to 100 million USD for 1 plane (and it will be most likely arround 100 million)... 1 plane... 100 million USD... As much as an aviation geek I am, as much as I love to see the Concorde flying again... 100 million can be spend much better then to use for a Concorde... With 100 million USD think about what you can do... I would rather give that money to charities then invest it in a plane which you never know is able to fly again...

It's not an Avro Vulcan, It's not a Dakota, It's not "aunt Ju", it's not even a Boeing 747-100 prototype, it's a plane that was build on very limited scale... That's a difference of 10's of millions of Dollars... It's easier to get an 80 year old plane (or even wreck) that was build on big scale in the air then a 40 year old Concorde with low hours and nearly no wear...

Sorry to burst your bubble

Thats ok,

No problem, I know how the aviation industry can be very harsh especially todays climate everyone tightening there belts.

It seems to be more of a political thing in parts, what a crazy world we live in just to restore at a cost one aircraft,I will have to do the lottery more often the euro millions and win every week and go to the casinos more often in Las Vegas and I will start saving my pennys......

CELINE RULES :flowers:

Edited September 13, 2011 at 01:31 PM by robert sadler

September 13, 2011 at 01:28 PM

dreading my flight on saturday morning... terrified of flying

September 14, 2011 at 04:07 AM

dreading my flight on saturday morning... terrified of flying

Learn to enjoy it one day! It's really the safest way to travel and it's so much fun to learn about everything!

September 14, 2011 at 09:16 AM

dreading my flight on saturday morning... terrified of flying

Flying is the best and safest way to travel,you will love it,its the best office in the sky.

Enjoy your flight :whee:

CELINE RULES :flowers:

September 15, 2011 at 08:04 AM

Newest addition for Brussels Airlines (SN) (successor to the late SABENA)...

http://www.plane-mad.com/photos/27/27377.jpg

Make: Airbus

Type: A330-223

Series: 200

Engines: Pratt & Whitney PW4168A

First Flight: 10/08/1998

Previous Operators: Swissair / Swiss International

Immatriculation: HB-IQA (to become OO-SFY)

Owner: Swiss International Airlines (LX) (leased to Brussels Airlines (SN))

Today it's going to fly to ZRH for final checks and reconfiguration before being delivered to BRU. The plane will be dry leased from LX for the time being and fly with Swiss immatriculation HB-IQA. The plane will become a substitude for SN's A330-300 fleet (5 planes) who will enter maintenance for a heavy (C-check) and get a complete new interior in business & economy with wireless AVOD IFE (15" screens in business, 9" screens in economy). When the maintenance and the convertions of the A333's are done, both A332's will go through the same upgrade and will receive Belgian registrations (OO-SFY for HB-IQA)

HB-IQA's sistership with immatriculation HB-IQC will also be painted in Brussels Airlines livery and join the fleet, it will get OO-SFZ as immatriculation).

Early next year Brussels Airlines will start USA operations with a first flight to be rumoured to be heading to New York JFK.

Brussels Airlines, Belgium's national carrier, was founded after the bankruptcy of SABENA back in 2001. It still shares the IATA code "SN" with the late SABENA.

Brussels Airlines fleet exists out of the following equipment:

11x Avro RJ85

12x Avro RJ100

9x Airbus A319

2x Airbus A320

5x Boeing 737-300

4x Boeing 737-400

5x Airbus A330-300

2x Embraer ERJ-145 (wetlease BMI)

1x Bombardier Q400 (wetlease Austrian Arrows)

Korongo Airlines (ZC) fleet (Subsidiary of Brussels Airlines to be started in Congo):

2x BAe 146-200

1x Boeing 737-300(WL)

To be delivered:

2x Airbus A330-200 (ex- Swiss, will be delivered in 2011)

6x Airbus A319-100 (1 in 2011 (this month), 1 in 2012, 4 in 2013)

4x Airbus A320-200 (2 in 2012, 2 in 2013)

2x Bombarbier Q400 (2012, wetlease)

Leaving the fleet:

1x Boeing 737 in 2011

4x Boeing 737 in 2012

3x Boeing 737 in 2013

5x Avro RJ85 in 2011

2x Avro RJ85 in 2012

Edited September 15, 2011 at 08:05 AM by Bralo20

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