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[robert sadler]

There does seem to an improvement with flights out of France Holland and Germany.

This is the latest.

May I remind anyone who is posssibly travelling still contact there airline and travel agents first.

 

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[Bralo20]

OK... Flightops are starting to pick up again, a bunch load of flights of European carriers are on their way from the US to Europe with passengers. Intra-Europa flights are starting slowly.

 

Yesterday, Airbus used to of their development planes (an Airbus A340-600 and a A380-800) to fly through French & German airspace. Both planes are experimental planes and were staffed with a engineers to monitor the engines closely during the flights. Results are expected today.

[robert sadler]

Hi,

I thought I send you this new airline training video a higher standard of flying for drunken pilots included.

Anyone off to Las Vegas or new pleasure trips over the grand canyon.

 

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/smoky714/4869/

[Bralo20]

Would love to see it IRL, amazing what that guy does

[robert sadler]

Hi, thought I share this with you a very interesting situation an American Airlines 777 has rolled back and lost one of its doors on the ground at dfw.

 

http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/2...oor-at-dfw.html

[Edwin]

Keep all your topics regarding this subject in here. We do not need 10 random topics with 0-2 responses in them. Thank you.

[robert sadler]

Came across this advert for Air New Zealand found it Amusing,

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUvssYKfzY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZLBY3lYtsQ

[robert sadler]

Hi thought I would like to share this with you,perhaps someone might be able to spread some light on what may of caused this its a bit amusing in a way too.

I work at an international airport, I do all the pushback off stands and use a headset to talk to the cockpit, i push a malaga flight back the other day rushing around trying to get the flight out on time,I would admit I forgot to switch off my mp3 player,the push back commenced after the both engines running at idle and the brakes set the captain of the aircraft said to me can you please make sure you dont have you mp3 player playing please.atc and the cabin where picking it up,I think there was about 225 passengers and crew listening to celine and atc you can see why airlines dont like electrical items switched on before departure and take off i have been in the aviation industry for over 25 years and this is the first time this has ever happened to me or heard of.can someone spead some light on what caused this i did not have the ear pieces in my earsthey where in my pocket but the music was fairly high i dont think mp3 player give of a signal or do they now?this could be an interesting issue here for those mp3 player users on airlines in future.but who cares Celine keeps me good company while i am working .

 

Robert

 

CELINE RULES

Edited October 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM by robert sadler

[mariposa24]

So celine was playing on the intercom? Epic.

[robert sadler]

So celine was playing on the intercom? Epic.

yep very weird,I have only just brought this mp3 player too.

when the cabin were doing there checks for departure I guess that was when they picked up celine,like I said the cockpit and atc got a bit of celine to I did not think this was possible.

 

Who cares I may of made more new fans for celine :kicking:I shall still have my mp3 player with me Celine music is much better than some of the ramp workers I work with.

 

CELINE RULES.

[CSCfan]

LOL! Funny....:funny: I always use my mp3 player during take-off and landing (just like my camera)

[fallen]

EPIC!!!!!!!! i woulda loved to be on that plane. Keep spreading the gospel of Celine, we always have more room for more fans . Next time turn it up all the way Edited October 25, 2010 at 09:56 PM by fallen

[J-Man]

Funny story Robert, thanks for that. Do you know what songs/album they might have been listening to?

 

Wouldn't it be funny if it was Next Plane Out or something.

[mariposa24]

Funny story Robert, thanks for that. Do you know what songs/album they might have been listening to?

 

Wouldn't it be funny if it was Next Plane Out or something.

 

OMG! That would be so awesome if it was NPO lol

[I Love You]

Funny story Robert, thanks for that. Do you know what songs/album they might have been listening to?

 

Wouldn't it be funny if it was Next Plane Out or something.

 

That would be hilarious. Plus that is a funny story.

[Nmj]

keeep going with this !!!!!

[robert sadler]

I am not sure but I think, my love, was playing at the time.

I am so tempted to try again this will have to be a new craze for me.

This what I shall say next time with my headset on and the mp3 player on full blast.

The follow is what procedures we have to do talking to the captain of the aircraft, but I will add a little something else.

Ground to flight,all external checks are complete ground equipment clear of the aircraft, CELINE AND ME are ready for push back release parking brake clear to start 2 and then 1 idle.

I will have to try it a long haul with more passengers on see if I get any comments.

 

CELINE RULES.

[Krys]

woot! do tell us what happened once you've done it

[robert sadler]

Hi guys I was able to see how the mp3 player can cause a problem to a aircraft,I went on board a ground run of a Boeing 767 with a couple of engineers,they explained and showed me what can happen.

All explained in the cockpit it does apply to some aircraft, some will get affected some may not as they suggested and showed me a mp3 player can act like a magnet and can affect parts of the navigation parts of the aircraft even up where the passengers sit, it can affect the compass and instrument landing system but only very slight but still can be dangerous and a very tiny but only slight movement that was halfway up the cabin where and parts of navigation points can pick it up scary a i never thought things like this could happen, but in the cockpit you only have to be at the door and it affects the navigation system also depends on the atmosphere fairly badly.

so when I had my mp3 player still switched on it was received down the live electrical system such as my headset it was the nearest point of connection also being under the cockpit area.

So now I know why it states any electicial items must be switched of before take off and landing even inflight thats the reason you have inflight movies etc.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-phot...7/8/1090875.jpg

This what a Boeing 767 cockpit looks like and this was about the distance, I stood to affect the navigation system.

Hope this wont put you off flying cause as we all know we have never had any accidents caused by electrical items switched on and to the best of my knowledge air travel is still the safest means of travel to date and I love it.

 

CELINE RULES

[Krys]

oh wow. thats interesting. thanks for finding out and telling us about it i always wondered why they ask to turn off electrical items. thanks dahlin

[mariposa24]

Hi guys I was able to see how the mp3 player can cause a problem to a aircraft,I went on board a ground run of a Boeing 767 with a couple of engineers,they explained and showed me what can happen.

All explained in the cockpit it does apply to some aircraft, some will get affected some may not as they suggested and showed me a mp3 player can act like a magnet and can affect parts of the navigation parts of the aircraft even up where the passengers sit, it can affect the compass and instrument landing system but only very slight but still can be dangerous and a very tiny but only slight movement that was halfway up the cabin where and parts of navigation points can pick it up scary a i never thought things like this could happen, but in the cockpit you only have to be at the door and it affects the navigation system also depends on the atmosphere fairly badly.

so when I had my mp3 player still switched on it was received down the live electrical system such as my headset it was the nearest point of connection also being under the cockpit area.

So now I know why it states any electicial items must be switched of before take off and landing even inflight thats the reason you have inflight movies etc.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-phot...7/8/1090875.jpg

This what a Boeing 767 cockpit looks like and this was about the distance, I stood to affect the navigation system.

Hope this wont put you off flying cause as we all know we have never had any accidents caused by electrical items switched on and to the best of my knowledge air travel is still the safest means of travel to date and I love it.

 

CELINE RULES

 

Okay try to make it happen again and this time play a really vocal song..like i surrender or le blues lol

[robert sadler]

Yep, I shall have to try again its a bit of a new buzz for me, but in reality I will have to be careful, sure i dont get into trouble ,nothing has been reported yet!

Get your requests in :sofunny:I will call it Celine Airways

Edited October 31, 2010 at 08:22 AM by robert sadler

[J-Man]

So Robert, you're saying that there is a (tiny) chance that your playing Celine on your MP3 player out on the ramp, could affect equipment inside the plane such as the navigation system?

[Bellamy]

I usually only put my iPhone to air mode. I don't bother to switch it off.

[mariposa24]

Yep, I shall have to try again its a bit of a new buzz for me, but in reality I will have to be careful, sure i dont get into trouble ,nothing has been reported yet!

Get your requests in :sofunny:I will call it Celine Airways

Great because i have a whole lists of requests...this would be such a unique way to promote Celine music

[robert sadler]

Have not forgotten about trying, still playing my mp3 player next to aircraft to see if I get a response,it seems to me that the older aircraft get affected not the modern but still trying ,I do get some strange looks from crew.

 

This is DJ Rob and celine{mp3 player} switching off for the next attempt

 

 

CELINE RULES.

[J-Man]

Well DJ Rob, just be careful not to become too carried away and get yourself into trouble. Or down a plane!

[kermitdafrog]

This story made my day.

 

EPIC!!!

[robert sadler]

This could be new in flight entertainment a pillow fight at 35000ft looks fun.

 

 

CELINE RULES

[Edwin]

Please do not keep creating seperate topics for aviation news. Future topics that should be posted in here will just be deleted and not merged. Thank you.