Chula Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 As the first few legs of the tour are over, what do you like this tour? To me, bad things were It seemed this tour was being rushed as she wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. I was at the Macau show. It was obvious Celine wanted to leave the stage as soon as possible. If she could disappear, I believe she would do that after the last note of MHWGO. Any concert Celine didn't want to leave? Dancers and Queen + Soul medley were unnecessary. So waste of time. I wanted Celine's appearances. What's more, most of songs I wanna listen to were cut by half - BYLM, TPOL, SOL and many more. It shortened the show and we were never been satisfied! Last, the technical problem happened too often -- the voice error, video mistake. The stage was too normal and videos on the screen were poorly produced also. It seemed crew members did them poorly. To me, the tour's productions were BAD. Good things .... I saw her live in concert for the very first time after I had been waiting for solid 10 years. The dreams of those who couldn't make it to Las Vegas came true! And listening to her voice in a concert was a magic, superb and flawless memory one can ever experience. She totally mesmerized me. In conclusion, I graded the tour 5/10 Quote
Davey84 Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) As the first few legs of the tour are over, what do you like this tour? To me, bad things were It seemed this tour was being rushed as she wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. I was at the Macau show. It was obvious Celine wanted to leave the stage as soon as possible. If she could disappear, I believe she would do that after the last note of MHWGO. Any concert Celine didn't want to leave? Dancers and Queen + Soul medley were unnecessary. So waste of time. I wanted Celine's appearances. What's more, most of songs I wanna listen to were cut by half - BYLM, TPOL, SOL and many more. It shortened the show and we were never been satisfied! Last, the technical problem happened too often -- the voice error, video mistake. The stage was too normal and videos on the screen were poorly produced also. It seemed crew members did them poorly. To me, the tour's productions were BAD.Good things .... I saw her live in concert for the very first time after I had been waiting for solid 10 years. The dreams of those who couldn't make it to Las Vegas came true! And listening to her voice in a concert was a magic, superb and flawless memory one can ever experience. She totally mesmerized me.In conclusion, I graded the tour 5/10 'bad'anwser to 1: ARRAS!!! she was standing on the left, before leaving, and you just saw she didnt want to leave! 2 well the setlist could be a million times better imo... but i've been meantioning this a million times 3 the only technical error I experianced was that her mircophone didn't work in the first few seconds of Je Sais Pas, May 24th. Good 1 it's the first time I really experianced a tour! I went to 6 shows and I never had the feeling she was rushed or didn't feel like it! Arras was the best céline-wise, Antwerp the 13th was the best setlist-wise! 2 she still amazes me live! the extra vocals of Je sais pas, the ending of it's a men's world, the mindblowing live version of Alone and a new favourite of mine: The Show Must go on... truely amazing!!! 3 I got to see Céline three times at her hotel! 2 times in Paris, one time in Amsterdam... all in all I managed to get 11 authographs! 4 I love the show itself! I really like the addings of the clips; IDAN, MHWGO remix, MHWGO, the new version of IA and the wat My Love is added to the show! the dancers are amazing too! Céline learnt a lot from Vegas!! In conclusion, I graded the tour 8.5/10 Edited July 14, 2008 by Davey84 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
Prince Whiskers Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Celine's been sounding better than she did in Vegas. That alone is enough for me. Quote http://cdn.webecoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/modern-pet-solo-blown-glass.jpg
JuanPe Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 As the first few legs of the tour are over, what do you like this tour? To me, bad things were It seemed this tour was being rushed as she wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. I was at the Macau show. It was obvious Celine wanted to leave the stage as soon as possible. If she could disappear, I believe she would do that after the last note of MHWGO. Any concert Celine didn't want to leave? Dancers and Queen + Soul medley were unnecessary. So waste of time. I wanted Celine's appearances. What's more, most of songs I wanna listen to were cut by half - BYLM, TPOL, SOL and many more. It shortened the show and we were never been satisfied! Last, the technical problem happened too often -- the voice error, video mistake. The stage was too normal and videos on the screen were poorly produced also. It seemed crew members did them poorly. To me, the tour's productions were BAD.Good things .... I saw her live in concert for the very first time after I had been waiting for solid 10 years. The dreams of those who couldn't make it to Las Vegas came true! And listening to her voice in a concert was a magic, superb and flawless memory one can ever experience. She totally mesmerized me.In conclusion, I graded the tour 5/10 'bad'anwser to 1: ARRAS!!! :clap: she was standing on the left, before leaving, and you just saw she didnt want to leave! 2 well the setlist could be a million times better imo... but i've been meantioning this a million times 3 the only technical error I experianced was that her mircophone didn't work in the first few seconds of Je Sais Pas, May 24th. Good 1 it's the first time I really experianced a tour! I went to 6 shows and I never had the feeling she was rushed or didn't feel like it! Arras was the best céline-wise, Antwerp the 13th was the best setlist-wise! 2 she still amazes me live! the extra vocals of Je sais pas, the ending of it's a men's world, the mindblowing live version of Alone and a new favourite of mine: The Show Must go on... truely amazing!!! 3 I got to see Céline three times at her hotel! 2 times in Paris, one time in Amsterdam... all in all I managed to get 11 authographs! 4 I love the show itself! I really like the addings of the clips; IDAN, MHWGO remix, MHWGO, the new version of IA and the wat My Love is added to the show! the dancers are amazing too! Céline learnt a lot from Vegas!! In conclusion, I graded the tour 8.5/10 Yeah baby, that's the answer! She didn't want to leave at all!! She was like she wanted to sing more but somebody didn't allow her! The technical problems is something SO normal, Céline and her crew are humans! Ok, the setlist could be better, but it was the end of the European leg, maybe she was tired and wanted some rest for her voice! She has some many changes while the whole tour The good things are too much for words, sorry Quote
Celineforeveranangel Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I saw her show in South Africa and thought it was amazing. Celine was the person that i had always dreamed of seeing live and I was not dissappointed at all. I wish i could see more shows on the tour;-) I think that Celine is sounding great;-) I didnt get the feeling that it was rushed mind you it was the first couple shows on her tour and Celine is human and it is understandable for her maybe to feel tired after everything but Celine would never let on to her fans!I think Celine will always give her best! ;-) Quote http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/Celineforeveranangel/6673.jpgI love Celine!!!!!!!!!!
MartinMunich Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Good thread.Let´s start with the good things: - New Songs: I LOVED the new material - she sounded fresh on the new songs, she seemed to be really enjoying doing "Taking chances" live (sounded great here in Munich), "My love" was one of the best live songs I have ever heared. - Her Voice: I always loved Celines voice, and I think the voice sounds better the older she gets. Loved it. Bad things: - Outdoor stage: Enough said about this from my side - in my oppinion way to cheap for a star like Celine, looked like a country fair stage, still can´t believe that they decided to do a concert on a such a "thing"- The show: Outdoors a show was not existing. You hardly could tell if there is a concept or a production happening, it looked rushed together, the dancers and the videos seemed out of place sometimes.- Lip synching: People are coming to hear Celine singing live - and she is opening and closing her concert with playback songs. Almost scandalous.- Celines connection with the audience: I did not click between Celine and the crowd - the fans were not to blame, they were into it from the beginning - Celine did not talk much, and if she did, you heared the same speeches most of us already heared on the Vegas-DVD, word by word. All in all, the concert was solid, but far far away from being great due to a very unmotivated production, too many songs on the setlist that she overperformed day by day in Vegas and - I share Chulas oppinion on that point - Celine, though she was professional as ever, was lacking passion big time. Others might have felt differently about that, but to me it felt like she had a lot of fun doing her new songs but was bored by the old material. She wanted to get it over with and rush back to the hotel. Thats what she did in the end. Compared to how her management announced the tour as being full of surprises, brand new show with the highest technical standard I can only say: Failed. 4/10 Quote
Frozen_Phoenix Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Hmmm first of all I have to say that I really love her so much and through this tour I finally got the chance to see her live.That was one of my biggest dreams and it finally became true. I saw her in Munich and I was sitting in the 8th row right in front of her. This seat was worth every single penny.I'll even go further her absolutly stunning performance of Alone was worth every single penny I paid for my ticket. I was one of those people who booked their Nice ticket long before her world tour or taking chances were even announced. This means that I bought my ticket expecting a concert to her newest French Album D'elles ( which is my favourite Celine album anyway ). So I saw her a second time in Nice and that concert was somehow disappointing well not only the concert but the whole francophone leg of the tour so far. The setlist is crap ( sorry to say it like that ). Her policy of switching and leaving out songs for every concert is a disaster. I was so disappointed to only get Et s'il n'en restait qu'une from D'elles. Instead we have to listen for the 600000 th time to The Power Of Love or are tortured with those stupid Queen Covers. Then she leaves out Alone and Taking Chances in Monaco To those of you who say that probably she is just tired after Vegas and the first leg of the tour. Never forget, she earns quite much money with that tour and the tickets were not exactly cheap. It's not the fault of the people living in Nice or Arras that they get the last performances of the first leg of the tour. As they had the same ticket prices they also should get the same quality and quantity for their money. She is an artist and if she doesn't feel up to do such a tour she shouldn't do it. I am sorry for my harsh tone but I just think that so far the tour indeed did not really look well produced or well coordinated at least not the French part. To the lypsynching: Starting and closing her concerts with lypsynched songs is really a disaster. People don't pay so much money for watching her open and close her mouth without a sound ever leaving her lips and please save me those "She needs to save her voice" comments. Again: she is an artist and also other famous people manage to perform every song live. If she doesn't feel up to that she shouldn't tour the world. I don't think that you are only a good fan when you cheer for everything she does without thinking what it is that she is exactly doing. It is obvious that she didn't really put much effor into rehearsing this tour because there was not that much she needed to rehearse with such a small amount of new songs. Anyway I still love her and I would still go to every single concert I can get to. Edited July 14, 2008 by Frozen_Phoenix Quote Et la vie glisse sur l'eau du tempsLa vie resiste, prend son elanPour un baiser elle peut se poserLe temps qui compte est toujours compte http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f248/ARMOIT/celinechances-1.png
olenka Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 good things:I saw Celine first time in concert,I had been waiting for 10 or 11 years!I was in Berlin and my country-Poland.It was amazing.Celine voice is still great,amazing live---My love,All by myself.Great show,lighting,musicans,all perfect.Celine is so funny,she is very nice,she loves fans!Bad things.playback,more playback but I know that Celine has too much concerts,It is tired.more Celine songs,less covers,but Queens medley was perfect. 10/10 because I'm so happy that i saw Celine,perfect show and heard voice first time. Quote Celine-the best singer world!!!!http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6391/cdqb3.jpg 12 June-Berlin Germany(Taking Chances World Tour)my first time28 june-Krakow Poland (Taking Chances World Tour) my space-my profile
Davey84 Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I agree with all the playbacking, the bad setlist and the being tired with old songs (lipped ones like TPOL, IACBTMN and TLYM should be removed!!!)... but leaving songs out, I don't know why, and I guess we'll never know... I hope that next time, if Céline wants to do a tour, there will be less shows and more recent songs! I'd rather have a lipped version of TTWII and ANDHC (radio mix) then another drained TPOL performance! I don't agree that céline doesn't feel like it and rushing the show... I never ever had that feeling!! maybe some dates it was like that... but not where I've been! Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
Alex_Incognito Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 BAD-French set list is the same as her last few world tours-Needs D'elles and 1 fille tracks-The Prayer is for old ladies GOOD-In VERY GOOD VOICE-Having a hell of a good time on stage-Wears prettier clothes (not STRANGE clothes like her LTAL tour)-More comfortable in her skin Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
Timster Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I don't think she felt live leaving at all! She wouldn't have done all these concerts overwise would she? I LOVED THE SHOW! I saw her in Manchester and I thought the stage was great. It may look simple but with all the elevators, treadmills and dancers it's absolutely great. IMO the centre stage is far better than the end one as everyone is nearer to Celine too! The intro and interval videos are great too. I love the MHWGO video cos it blends in to the I'm Alive Remix so well. I think the set list is great too but I think they should get rid of the Queen medley. I also think they need to be more careful with the technical hitches. After seeing thr video of IDAN in Vienna where the music was playing but the vocal playback wasn't was very careless and must have been very embarassing for Celine and Rene. Overall I give it 10/10. There is noting I would change apart from the Queen medley. Quote
zoea2812 Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 I absolutely loved the concert. I saw Celine in birmingham and she was on top form. Her voice was flawless, she looked beautiful and I just wanted more.I rate the tour 9/10. Quote http://www.celinerific.com/Signatures/NHASig1.jpg
MartinMunich Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) All in all, I think she pleased some of her die-hard fans but - at the same time, as you can read on this forum - she also dissappointed a lot of her fans (including me).Of course I would still go to her concerts - next time she tours I hope they spend more time and effort on planning and production. But a lot of people I have talked to after the concert said that would never ever pay so much money again because they expected so much more and did not get much. The outdoor show is not delivering and does not even come close to the standard of how concert tours from world stars are being produced these days. The tour also failed to have any impact on record sales. Normally a tour pushes CD sales a lot. But this tour was so unspectacular, it did not cause any waves in the media and therefore had no impact on record sales. Same with the tickets.Normally tickets are selling well once a tour starts, if the first pictures and reports are out in the media it makes the people wanna go. Obviously the majority of the tickets was sold when they announced the tour. During the long period between sales start and concerts not much happenend anymore (also because of a very bad record company strategy I have to admit - no singles promoted anymore, the album and the tour could have done so much better) As Celine said before - she doesn´t need to do this anymore.And this is exactelly the impression she and her team made. Whoever was responsible for putting this tour together, for booking the venues, for the set list should be fired.But how do you fire your husband?I think Rene is not necessarily getting better the older he gets. This Queen-Medley is the most obvious sign for his horrible taste. And obviously Celine does not care much - or her taste is not much better either. She did not do herself and her career a big favour with this tour. I hope she gets back to a point where she says "I need to do this, I need do tour because I want to and I want to deliver the highest standard of quality possible" - bring back the passion.And skip the playbacks next time - this is ok for Britney - but embarrassing for Celine. Edited July 15, 2008 by MartinMunich Quote
Chula Posted July 15, 2008 Author Posted July 15, 2008 All in all, I think she pleased some of her die-hard fans but - at the same time, as you can read on this forum - she also dissappointed a lot of her fans (including me). Absolutely! Quote
Davey84 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) All in all, I think she pleased some of her die-hard fans but - at the same time, as you can read on this forum - she also dissappointed a lot of her fans (including me).Of course I would still go to her concerts - next time she tours I hope they spend more time and effort on planning and production. yeah she pleased me a lot! I am sorry for you, you didn't get to see the real tour, they should have thought about that, when they booked the venues. but I don't think u can judge the whole tour on one expierence... Same with the tickets. Normally tickets are selling well once a tour starts, if the first pictures and reports are out in the media it makes the people wanna go. Obviously the majority of the tickets was sold when they announced the tour. During the long period between sales start and concerts not much happenend anymore (also because of a very bad record company strategy I have to admit - no singles promoted anymore, the album and the tour could have done so much better) this I agree on... they should have announced less concerts and with more intrest add more dates (like 5 nights in Paris, with an option to 7) Whoever was responsible for putting this tour together, for booking the venues, for the set list should be fired.But how do you fire your husband?I think Rene is not necessarily getting better the older he gets. This Queen-Medley is the most obvious sign for his horrible taste. And obviously Celine does not care much - or her taste is not much better either. I think this is the Vegas curse... if she did a ANDHC tour, then more new songs would have been added I think! it's too much focussed on 93-98. TTWII wasn't even encluded! nor ANDHC which was one of her last big hits! And I totally agree about René going with a pension Also if you have read For Keeps, you'd know that Céline loves Queen and would love to do a tribute album for them... so I wasn't surprised that she added these songs to the show! She did not do herself and her career a big favour with this tour. I hope she gets back to a point where she says "I need to do this, I need do tour because I want to and I want to deliver the highest standard of quality possible" - bring back the passion.And skip the playbacks next time - this is ok for Britney - but embarrassing for Celine. I think the only way to do that is go for smaller venues, with more focus on the artistic side of Céline, not the big money notes of the nineties! I don't mind a few playback ones, but not the first and especially not the last!! I think it's funny that you call the Queen medley a horrible taste! The Show Must Go On is exactly what you (and maybe céline) is feeling! Empty spaces - what are we living for?Abandoned places - I guess we know the score..On and on!Does anybody know what we are looking for? Another hero - another mindless crime.Behind the curtain, in the pantomime.Hold the line!Does anybody want to take it anymore?The Show must go on!The Show must go on!Inside my heart is breaking,My make-up may be flaking,But my smile, still, stays on! Whatever happens, I'll leave it all to chance.Another heartache - another failed romance.On and on!Does anybody know what we are living for?I guess i'm learningI must be warmer now..I'll soon be turning round the corner now.Outside the dawn is breaking,But inside in the dark I'm aching to be free! The Show must go on!The Show must go on! Yeah!Ooh! Inside my heart is breaking!My make-up may be flaking!But my smile, still, stays on!Yeah! oh oh oh My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies,Fairy tales of yesterday, will grow but never die,I can fly, my friends! The Show must go on! Yeah!The Show must go on!I'll face it with a grin!I'm never giving in!On with the show! I'll top the bill!I'll overkill!I have to find the will to carry on!On with the,On with the show! The Show must go on. Edited July 15, 2008 by Davey84 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
marckvls Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I hate to criticize Celine, but following this tour, I have to admit that she's been doing a bunch of mistakes, many things are going wrong. First of all that playback stuff. I think if it's for saving her voice, then do less shows!But the biggest error was doing an endless tour right after 5 years of Las Vegas... Ah, I feel sad, coz I can't believe she's not doing it just for money! Or I dunno, she didn't want to be forgotten... who knows Quote Love comes to those who believe it...
TheOne Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) About this tour all I have to say is that no Chances were taken at all. At any level. Same old songs, same old arrangements, same old pre recorded tracks, same old tricks over and over again. It was a cheap Vegas on the road. I've been silent lately because she isn't really delivering anything exciting anymore... I don't even see any need on releasing this on dvd, coz it's been really weak. She doesn't connect with the audience the way she used to. I felt that on the AND dvd as well but I think it got worst. I feel that she doesn't quite know what to do on this stage and she just runs around waving and hitting herself as usual and making goofy gestures on fancy clothes (at least on her previous world tours, the clothes were goofy anyway, so it all had this guilty-pleasure like goofyness that we all came to love) and it just doesn't feel all right to me. I feel she's not delivering with passion. She's jsut doing it because she has to. Edited July 15, 2008 by TheOne Quote
Céline's Blues Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) This tour is undoubtedly an effort to come back to the basics, to the good old days of touring. It certainly has its flaws which I will mention later but the overall quality of it cannot be denied. Ironically the quality is being emanated only and solely from Céline's stage persona - not from the needless dancers, not from the cold special light effects, unfortunately not from Céline's band and most certainly not from the utterly pointless wannabe-hip-inlay-videos. She might have as much messed up tour as it only can get but she will still shine as soon as she gets on stage. This is definitely the case here on the TCH tour. The set list would have been just fine be it the English or the French one as long as she'd sing them songs live. It's without a shodow of doubt the most aggrieviating issue of the tour. She did not only promise new versions of old songs but on top of that what she did was to deliver the same exact versions of her old hits sung night by night from tape. Some of you who don't agree on the heavy weight of the lipping issue - I would most certainly see your point but NOT considering Céline's own promises regarding her old songs. It's absolutely not right to warm the fans up for something "completely new" and something "she can't wait to share with us" and then slap the same 12-years-old lipping tape onto our ears. It's just absolutely not classy. Point blank. What I saw on stage was the same old Céline we all long for. She's absolutely the same, wanting to deliver the same quality and class on stage. When she's singing live she's all on point showing them how it's really done. The undertones of the tour are exactly the same like they were during the Falling Into You era. Ever wondered why Céline always preferred to dress her way, to choose the costumes by herself? She did that always and she did it her way. The same way she chose her own costumes (that are just typical Dion weirdness) she also chose the darkish background for her concert. She could have gone all Kylie Minoguesque, Cher-esque or U2-esque with full blown monkey circus going on tour with her. But she did not. It was and still is after so many years her tour, her own equipe, her own troupe, her own choices and if you grasp the concept behind it, you will see that the typical Dionesque nuances are all there at hand. You just need to get aware. No money, no Vegas-effect, no success will change the way she behaves on stage and the way she injects herself into the grand tour machinery. One may only question the notion of it being a concious choice or something that is a part of her nature as a performer and singer... This or that way this very fact of individuality applied to this tour and everything she does that requires being in front of the audience still proves the point of Céline coming to abounding fruition on stage, whether in 1996 or 2008. Edited July 15, 2008 by Céline's Blues Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
M@Y3 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) I can only agree with all the critics I heard.First, I just want to say that I was so happy to see Céline live for the first time and it was an experience I'll never forget. Céline was not rushing during the show, but there was no time for a 'nice chat' with the audience.I would have loved to see Céline doing something like Arras. There was a real connection between her and the audience.But in Antwerp I missed that connection! And I also prefer to hear the new songs of Céline, like all of us My conclusion is that there is just too much money involved.. Edited July 15, 2008 by M@Y3 Quote
tomaat Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I posted this answer in the Monte Carlo topic but it suits better here. QUOTE(Un Rêve @ Jul 15 2008, 04:34 AM) Many people who come to see Celine in concert, want to hear her hits, and if we're honest: most of her hits are from the 90s. We, as fans, may know otherwise but many people just want to hear Celine Dion, meaning TPOL, IACBTN, MHWGO, etc. I do agree though, that it would have been nice if she'd sung more from D'Elles (even 1F&4T) and TC. I agree. These were my first Celine concerts, and I really wanted to hear TPOL, MHWGO, ABM, her hits, although I would have appreciated more new songs as well (but you can't have it all !).Celine's tour brought her to places where she hadn't performed yet, places where the public hadn't heard her greatest hits yet. For Belgium as well, it had been 9 years since she was last here. A lot of people didn't go to her last concert but went now, and wanted to hear those hits. If she would have left them out, a lot of them wouldn't have been happy either (from what I can read here, a lot of members went to see her for the very first time as well)As I said, this was the first time I saw here, and I'm very glad to have heard TPOL, ABM, MHWGO, Destin, Dans un autre monde etc. All here 'old' hits. If she would have said: let's do a tour about the last 3 albums, I would have had to miss these hits. BUT: next time (if there is a next time in the near future), I would appreciate more new hits, so I understand those that are bored with TPOL, MHWGO etc. as well, and, as annoying as it may sound, the lipsinging is indeed NOT DONE. Full stop. Quote Antwerp, 14 May 2008 / Arras, 7 July 2008 / Antwerp, 22 November 2013 / Antwerp, 21 June 2016 / Arnhem, 23 June 2017 / Lille, 2 July 2017 / London, 29 July 2017 / London, 5 July 2019 / CWT: Antwerp & Stockholm (t.b.d)
zoea2812 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I think Sony have far too much say in what celine does Quote http://www.celinerific.com/Signatures/NHASig1.jpg
MartinMunich Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 All in all, I think she pleased some of her die-hard fans but - at the same time, as you can read on this forum - she also dissappointed a lot of her fans (including me).Of course I would still go to her concerts - next time she tours I hope they spend more time and effort on planning and production. yeah she pleased me a lot! I am sorry for you, you didn't get to see the real tour, they should have thought about that, when they booked the venues. but I don't think u can judge the whole tour on one expierence... Same with the tickets. Normally tickets are selling well once a tour starts, if the first pictures and reports are out in the media it makes the people wanna go. Obviously the majority of the tickets was sold when they announced the tour. During the long period between sales start and concerts not much happenend anymore (also because of a very bad record company strategy I have to admit - no singles promoted anymore, the album and the tour could have done so much better) this I agree on... they should have announced less concerts and with more intrest add more dates (like 5 nights in Paris, with an option to 7) Whoever was responsible for putting this tour together, for booking the venues, for the set list should be fired.But how do you fire your husband?I think Rene is not necessarily getting better the older he gets. This Queen-Medley is the most obvious sign for his horrible taste. And obviously Celine does not care much - or her taste is not much better either. I think this is the Vegas curse... if she did a ANDHC tour, then more new songs would have been added I think! it's too much focussed on 93-98. TTWII wasn't even encluded! nor ANDHC which was one of her last big hits! And I totally agree about René going with a pension Also if you have read For Keeps, you'd know that Céline loves Queen and would love to do a tribute album for them... so I wasn't surprised that she added these songs to the show! She did not do herself and her career a big favour with this tour. I hope she gets back to a point where she says "I need to do this, I need do tour because I want to and I want to deliver the highest standard of quality possible" - bring back the passion.And skip the playbacks next time - this is ok for Britney - but embarrassing for Celine. I think the only way to do that is go for smaller venues, with more focus on the artistic side of Céline, not the big money notes of the nineties! I don't mind a few playback ones, but not the first and especially not the last!! I think it's funny that you call the Queen medley a horrible taste! The Show Must Go On is exactly what you (and maybe céline) is feeling! Empty spaces - what are we living for?Abandoned places - I guess we know the score..On and on!Does anybody know what we are looking for? Another hero - another mindless crime.Behind the curtain, in the pantomime.Hold the line!Does anybody want to take it anymore?The Show must go on!The Show must go on!Inside my heart is breaking,My make-up may be flaking,But my smile, still, stays on! Whatever happens, I'll leave it all to chance.Another heartache - another failed romance.On and on!Does anybody know what we are living for?I guess i'm learningI must be warmer now..I'll soon be turning round the corner now.Outside the dawn is breaking,But inside in the dark I'm aching to be free! The Show must go on!The Show must go on! Yeah!Ooh! Inside my heart is breaking!My make-up may be flaking!But my smile, still, stays on!Yeah! oh oh oh My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies,Fairy tales of yesterday, will grow but never die,I can fly, my friends! The Show must go on! Yeah!The Show must go on!I'll face it with a grin!I'm never giving in!On with the show! I'll top the bill!I'll overkill!I have to find the will to carry on!On with the,On with the show! The Show must go on. i love your answer. Quote
MartinMunich Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 This tour is undoubtedly an effort to come back to the basics, to the good old days of touring. It certainly has its flaws which I will mention later but the overall quality of it cannot be denied. Ironically the quality is being emanated only and solely from Céline's stage persona - not from the needless dancers, not from the cold special light effects, unfortunately not from Céline's band and most certainly not from the utterly pointless wannabe-hip-inlay-videos. She might have as much messed up tour as it only can get but she will still shine as soon as she gets on stage. This is definitely the case here on the TCH tour. The set list would have been just fine be it the English or the French one as long as she'd sing them songs live. It's without a shodow of doubt the most aggrieviating issue of the tour. She did not only promise new versions of old songs but on top of that what she did was to deliver the same exact versions of her old hits sung night by night from tape. Some of you who don't agree on the heavy weight of the lipping issue - I would most certainly see your point but NOT considering Céline's own promises regarding her old songs. It's absolutely not right to warm the fans up for something "completely new" and something "she can't wait to share with us" and then slap the same 12-years-old lipping tape onto our ears. It's just absolutely not classy. Point blank. What I saw on stage was the same old Céline we all long for. She's absolutely the same, wanting to deliver the same quality and class on stage. When she's singing live she's all on point showing them how it's really done. The undertones of the tour are exactly the same like they were during the Falling Into You era. Ever wondered why Céline always preferred to dress her way, to choose the costumes by herself? She did that always and she did it her way. The same way she chose her own costumes (that are just typical Dion weirdness) she also chose the darkish background for her concert. She could have gone all Kylie Minoguesque, Cher-esque or U2-esque with full blown monkey circus going on tour with her. But she did not. It was and still is after so many years her tour, her own equipe, her own troupe, her own choices and if you grasp the concept behind it, you will see that the typical Dionesque nuances are all there at hand. You just need to get aware. No money, no Vegas-effect, no success will change the way she behaves on stage and the way she injects herself into the grand tour machinery. One may only question the notion of it being a concious choice or something that is a part of her nature as a performer and singer... This or that way this very fact of individuality applied to this tour and everything she does that requires being in front of the audience still proves the point of Céline coming to abounding fruition on stage, whether in 1996 or 2008. I absolutlely agree with you when it comes to Celine being on stage - she is simply spectacular. As a singer. As a perfomer. Nothing to add. And it is perfectly fine if she wants to keep things simple - simple is fine, but please not that cheap. I don´t want to see Celine disappearing in a tent on stage to change clothes. Please not. She was delivering great great tours with "Falling into you" which was very simple, but amazing and of course "LTAL" which was also simple, but had at least a stage design and simple effects that supported the songs.This time - nothing. A few lamps and even the sound was bad. Everybody who is not completely numb could tell the difference between the live songs and the playback ones. All in all, I agree with you that Celine does not need to do a Cher-Circus, but at least deliver some qualitiy on the stuff that surrounds her. And I couldn´t agree more with you on the lipsynching and the 12-year-old-arragenements - that is so lame. No style. No quality. Big let down. And the part that irritiates me the most the fact that she is opening and closing with playback tracks. Terrible. Really like your post - goes pretty deep and you really point out the essence. Quote
Chula Posted July 15, 2008 Author Posted July 15, 2008 yeah she pleased me a lot! I am sorry for you, you didn't get to see the real tour, they should have thought about that, when they booked the venues. but I don't think u can judge the whole tour on one experience... I think I can judge because my concert, Macao, was a part of the tour. Therefore, when it was bad, I am not wrong to say the world tour was bad too. Quote
marckvls Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Someone from Celine's team MUST see these posts!!! Quote Love comes to those who believe it...
Filine Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I've attended several shows and overall I think she's delivering for me. It's been always her voice I came to hear and stage effects come into second place. Vocally she's been in an exeptional form. Why she playbacks? I don't know, there must be reasons. It's also very obvious that on the end stage she has more freedom to be 'spontaneous' and to interact. The in the round stage keeps her so busy moving that there's little time to do that. It's also a world of difference wether you are right in front of the stage or somewhere in the back. This is my top 5 sofar... 1. Amsterdam 10/102. Arras 9/103. Paris 24th May 8/104. Paris 25th May 7/105. Antwerp (May 16th) 7/10 Overal tourscore 8/10 Quote http://www.celinedion.nl/pics/cindy/bannerza.jpg"They call my home the land of snow, Canadian cold front movin' in"
Davey84 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 i love your answer. thanks! I also agree with Seba... Céline is just amazing on stage Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
Shaun Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Anyone who is calling this tour absolute perfection needs their head examined. It certainly isn't. It has its flaws but certainly isn't as bad as people as making out. The playback issue, let's just be clear, is UNFORGIVABLE. Yes perhaps it's acceptable on TV shows, yes ok perhaps in Vegas for 5 nights a week for 5 years but NOT on tour!! Don't let me hear anyone say "oh she needs to protect her voice", what absolute rubbish. Just dont tour then. Dont be a singer. Dont sing songs that are going to challenge you that much. Do whatever you have to do but sing LIVE!!! The line between playback and live is coming dangerously close and if Celine isn't careful she's going to be "found out." Maybe she deserves to be I dont know. I agree with Seb in that i'm so glad Celine didnt go on tour with a travelling circus like Kylie and Cher do. Yes that would've generated headlines, but the wrong type! She's kept it simple, classy and about everything she stands for. I believe she probably gave Jamie King an idea of exactly what she wanted and let him develop it for her. She would've immediately dismissed anything she didnt like, just like she did the hideous costumes Dragone initially made her wear in Vegas. The set list is an undoubted issue as is the general "hype" surrounding the tour. For first time Celine concert goers the set list is probably just about right. The classics, LOADS of covers and a few new songs. For those of us that have been following Celine since the start well let's be honest the set list was always going to disappoint wasnt it? On saying that though I do NOT think it's being unreasonable to expect her to sing her most up to date hits such as TTWII, ANDHC and JNVOP. Why these songs, for example, were never included is just a mystery to all. Celine and her team NEED to get out of this "comfort zone" of TPOL, BYLM, TYLM and LCMM. Otherwise, quite simply, people will just lose interest. And finally, Celine's "connection" with the audience, as some have called it, I dont feel has changed. Yes her English seems more "forced" these days but she still personlises most concert experiences even though we still get the rehearsed speeches. Wasn't it in Manchester and Germany she talked about the football and Vienna about the local food? What more do people want? She cant recite War and Peace at every show. Yes the show could've been better, it also could've been worse. Just be glad she didn't say Au Revoir for good after Vegas. Quote Bringing you the world's only Celine Dion podcast show since 2014.Find us on Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & Amazon Music.
Davey84 Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) The playback issue, let's just be clear, is UNFORGIVABLE. Yes perhaps it's acceptable on TV shows, yes ok perhaps in Vegas for 5 nights a week for 5 years but NOT on tour!! Don't let me hear anyone say "oh she needs to protect her voice", what absolute rubbish. Just dont tour then. Dont be a singer. Dont sing songs that are going to challenge you that much. Do whatever you have to do but sing LIVE!!! The line between playback and live is coming dangerously close and if Celine isn't careful she's going to be "found out." Maybe she deserves to be I dont know. hmm well yeah.. but she's been using playback for TPOL for like well for ever! I agree with you, I think she should chuck out old songs like TPOL and IACBTN if she lost connection with it, and doesn't even bother to sing it live. but I think no matter what songs are added, some parts will always be playback; other solutions would be less songs, or no high notes, but what's a céline concert without them? or moreover new arragements, which would make it fun for everyone again! Or less concerts and smaller venues... but the problem with that is, that the ticketprices will be even higher! And finally, Celine's "connection" with the audience, as some have called it, I dont feel has changed. Yes her English seems more "forced" these days but she still personlises most concert experiences even though we still get the rehearsed speeches. Wasn't it in Manchester and Germany she talked about the football and Vienna about the local food? What more do people want? She cant recite War and Peace at every show. oh no? didn't she do that every time she introduced SISDA? oh about the song choice (once again ) I still can't freaking believe that she didn't sing her two number one hits in France! TLDH and JNVOP! who ever decided that those songs had to go/ should be left out should be shot! Edited July 16, 2008 by Davey84 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
MartinMunich Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 The playback issue, let's just be clear, is UNFORGIVABLE. Yes perhaps it's acceptable on TV shows, yes ok perhaps in Vegas for 5 nights a week for 5 years but NOT on tour!! Don't let me hear anyone say "oh she needs to protect her voice", what absolute rubbish. Just dont tour then. Dont be a singer. Dont sing songs that are going to challenge you that much. Do whatever you have to do but sing LIVE!!! The line between playback and live is coming dangerously close and if Celine isn't careful she's going to be "found out." Maybe she deserves to be I dont know. hmm well yeah.. but she's been using playback for TPOL for like well for ever! I agree with you, I think she should chuck out old songs like TPOL and IACBTN if she lost connection with it, and doesn't even bother to sing it live. but I think no matter what songs are added, some parts will always be playback; other solutions would be less songs, or no high notes, but what's a céline concert without them? or moreover new arragements, which would make it fun for everyone again! Or less concerts and smaller venues... but the problem with that is, that the ticketprices will be even higher!. I think playback is a complete no-go for Celine. She doesn´t write her songs, she is not doing big dance moves, she has no cheresque Show setup - and this is perfectly fine because she is a singer.And she is known as one of the best singers in the pop industry.So if people go to a Celine concert they deserve to hear every single note live - because it is all about the voice.Pre-recording does not count Quote
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