The Next U.S.A President

[Alex_Incognito]

Hillary must call you all the time and be your best friend, the way you know exactly what she's feeling.

[incognito]

So who all is looking forward to the US going to war with Russia? Bless Sarah Palin. She really is THAT clueless. I mean, presidents avoided war with Russia for 50 years for a REASON!!!! They have nuclear missiles and if provoked they will not be afraid to use them. Alaska is closest... hahaha

[Nmj]

Sarah palin's first interview with Charlie Gibson was a total disaster for she showed how STUPID she is with whats going on the government right now, She has no idea what the Bush policy is and she so how supports it?

Care to Expain there Sarah?

 

By the way she is just so ignorant that she says things like: I Believe the war in Iraq was a mission from God to be there.

 

Yeah Right Sarah its god will to thousands killed .

 

I just people like Jen really do their homework on this one because I can really see a McCain-Palin Presidency worse than the Bush One.

 

-Nmj

[LittleBrooks]

Barack Obama giving Hillary Clinton The Finger

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

 

 

[Nmj]

More links, wow!

[Love,]

And if she still wants a political career she HAS to support Obama.

 

Hillary: "Are you calling me a pretender? A faker? A backscratcher? How dare you! I thought you were one of the 18 millions who voted for me!"

 

 

By the way she is just so ignorant that she says things like: I Believe the war in Iraq was a mission from God to be there.

 

Oh

 

My

 

GOSH!

 

Now, it totally turned the gray to black for me!

 

I cannot believe she would use God's name in vain this way!

 

So, I can see the Republicans are doing everything to get votes: using a female partner to get female votes and using God's name in vain to get the churchgoers. What's next? McCain is going to do a Viagra commercial?

 

Edited September 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM by Love,

[Jacqui]

I was really surprised at all the articles about Celine and Rene and that Obama guy. I thought she didn't want to talk about politics. Which worked better for me, because up until a week ago, I thought Obama was a terrorist and McCain was a brand of french fries.

[incognito]

because up until a week ago, I thought Obama was a terrorist and McCain was a brand of french fries.

 

:laugh: :laugh:

 

What makes it worse is his name is Obama Hussein.

[PrincesseJen]

And if she still wants a political career she HAS to support Obama.

 

Hillary: "Are you calling me a pretender? A faker? A backscratcher? How dare you! I thought you were one of the 18 millions who voted for me!"

 

 

I've already stated that the Hillary campaign KNEW of all the caucus fraud the Obama campaign did to STEAL the nomination. It does not make sense for her to TRULY feel he would make a good president after knowing how corrupt his campaign is. I will post these videos about the fraud one more time. Before anyone make a comment about posting youtube videos (because that's your excuse for not watching them) THESE ARE NOT MERE YOUTUBE VIDEOS. They are PREVIEWS of the CAUCUS FRAUD DOCUMENTARIES that are currently being made and will be released to the mass public to see later. If you really want to educate yourself on what REALLY HAPPENED now is your chance. Don't stay in the dark now because you'll only be angry when you find out later.

 

 

THE AUDACITY OF DEMOCRACY

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOqe-JPLKfw

 

WE WLL NOT BE SILENCED (4 PARTS)

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/Silenced2008

 

 

Copies of the Hillary campaigns URGENT PRESS RELEASES that the PRESS NEVER PICKED UP.

 

 

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z30/Sarahj21230/caucus_irregularities_memo.jpg

 

 

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z30/Sarahj21230/Hillary/emergency_press_call.jpg

 

 

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z30/Sarahj21230/Hillary/texasstatedirector.jpg

 

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/document.htm#press

[LVCeline]

I've watched Palin's interview with Charles Gibson up until now and quite honestly it gave me a glimmer of hope that if people actually see her talk about the issues they will realize she doesn't know what she's doing. The interview was terrible, and she couldn't answer a single question without a bunch of skirting. Charles got after her several times because she gave such vague answers; he couldn't understand what her point or position was. This is true of most politicians though, so that's the not the biggest concern. I just feel watching her answer questions about the actual issues was very awkward and her inexperience in politics in general came through very clear. She's unbelievably obviously not ready for such an office, and the debates will make it even more clear. It's easy to dazzle a crowd with sayings such as "I told Congress thanks, but no-thanks on that bridge to nowhere," but when you actually have to answer questions and talk about specific issues it's a whole 'nother ball park! She's clearly not ready for the big leagues!

[Céline's Blues]

I think Palin might be ready for the new Maxfactor eye liner ad created for women 40+ but she's surely not ready to be a VP. Edited September 13, 2008 at 05:23 PM by Céline's Blues

[incognito]

I've watched Palin's interview with Charles Gibson up until now and quite honestly it gave me a glimmer of hope that if people actually see her talk about the issues they will realize she doesn't know what she's doing. The interview was terrible, and she couldn't answer a single question without a bunch of skirting. Charles got after her several times because she gave such vague answers; he couldn't understand what her point or position was. This is true of most politicians though, so that's the not the biggest concern. I just feel watching her answer questions about the actual issues was very awkward and her inexperience in politics in general came through very clear. She's unbelievably obviously not ready for such an office, and the debates will make it even more clear. It's easy to dazzle a crowd with sayings such as "I told Congress thanks, but no-thanks on that bridge to nowhere," but when you actually have to answer questions and talk about specific issues it's a whole 'nother ball park! She's clearly not ready for the big leagues!

 

Most of what she said was verbal diarrhea. If you actually break down what she said a lot of it didn't make sense! She's a Republican and she's not clear on the Bush Doctrine? That's quite scary. And when she started talking about Abraham Lincoln... lol You wish, Sarah. You wish.

[zoea2812]

Personally I only think that McCain has got Palin on his team to try and get younger voters on his side

[Alex_Incognito]

Ugly pink font won't make anything you say completely correct. You must think that fairy tales are real stories, too.

 

Mais tu aimes habiter dans un conte de fée ou tu crois que McCain est super pour les États-unis!

[Céline's Blues]

Ugly pink font won't make anything you say completely correct. You must think that fairy tales are real stories, too.

 

Mais tu aimes habiter dans un conte de fée ou tu crois que McCain est super pour les États-unis!

She's just putting pink lipstick on a pig!

[incognito]

Ugly pink font won't make anything you say completely correct. You must think that fairy tales are real stories, too.

Mais tu aimes habiter dans un conte de fée ou tu crois que McCain est super pour les États-unis!

 

:laugh:

 

 

Ugly pink font won't make anything you say completely correct. You must think that fairy tales are real stories, too.

 

Mais tu aimes habiter dans un conte de fée ou tu crois que McCain est super pour les États-unis!

She's just putting pink lipstick on a pig!

 

:giggle:

 

 

Who'd have thunk this woman would have become a VP candidate?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY5f-qjczFQ

 

Crrrrazy!

[LittleBrooks]

Hillary Clinton Won the Popular Vote

Hillary Clinton Won the Electoral Vote

 

2008 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY VOTING STATES:

 

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/statistics/

 

(Peniel Cronin "Primary versus Caucus" Final Report -2008)

 

39 Primaries (State Run, State Financed)

34,829,191 Votes Cast -97% of the total Votes cast

17,657,517 Votes - 50.7% Hillary Clinton - 1464 Pledged Delegates

17,171,674 Votes - 49.3% Barack Obama - 1429 Pledged Delegates

Hillary Clinton: + 485,843 Votes - 1.4% and 35 Pedged Delegates

 

13 Caucuses (Party Run, Party Financed)

1,057,136 Votes Cast (2.9%) --53% of these Votes were estimated

378,684 Estimated Votes - 36% Hillary Clinton - 171 Delegates

678,452 Estimated Votes - 64% Barack Obama - 323 Delegates

Barack Obama + 299,768 Estimated Votes +206 Pledged Delegates

 

2008 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ELECTORAL VOTES:

 

311 - Hillary Clinton

227 - Barack Obama

270 - needed to win Nov General Election

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

 

 

Edited September 13, 2008 at 08:14 PM by LittleBrooks

[PrincesseJen]

Actually what I'm hearing mostly about this interview is peoples dissatisfaction of Charles Gibson’s demeanor and questionable preparation. His bias was showing. This was a good comparison of questions someone posted on the Hillary forum

 

Obama interview:

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5000184

 

How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?

How does it feel to "win"?

How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?

Who will be your VP?

Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?

Will you accept public finance?

What issues is your campaign about?

Will you visit Iraq?

Will you debate McCain at a town hall?

What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

 

Palin interview:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...with-abc-news/

 

Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?

Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?

Questions about foreign policy

-territorial integrity of Georgia

-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO

-NATO treaty

-Iranian nuclear threat

-what to do if Israel attacks Iran

-Al Qaeda motivations

-the Bush Doctrine

-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan

Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

 

There’s no doubt the Charles Gibson interviews showed extreme prejudice against Palin and extreme favoritism towards Obama. His manner towards Palin was much more negative. He asked her much more difficult questions and the questions were more adversarial. He constantly questioned her ability to lead but never questioned Obama’s ability to lead, all the more amazing considering that Palin was the only one with executive experience and the presidency is the highest level executive job in politics. The camera angles always focused on Obama’s face when he was talking making him the center of attention yet during Palin’s interview the angle often focused on her back apparently for the purpose of lessening the impact of her presence.

 

 

Also you have to remember she is running for VICE PRESIDENT not PRESIDENT. Bringing up things like who understands the issues more and experience isn't a topic Obama should start (especially with Palin because it's McCain's running for President) because he has neither understanding or experience.

 

 

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z30/Sarahj21230/Obama_Lipstick_sm.jpg

 

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z30/Sarahj21230/610_lipstik.jpg

 

 

Edited September 13, 2008 at 08:18 PM by PrincesseJen

[PrincesseJen]

Ugly pink font won't make anything you say completely correct.

 

 

And not reading it won't make it completely go away. The public will know about this information sooner or later. October is certainly going to be an interesting month of information.

[Nmj]

Ugly pink font and worthless links and lie's wont make a difference

[incognito]

 

Also you have to remember she is running for VICE PRESIDENT not PRESIDENT. Bringing up things like who understands the issues more and experience isn't a topic Obama should start (especially with Palin because it's McCain's running for President) because he has neither understanding or experience.

 

 

 

 

 

Uh... Why are you talking about what Obama should do in this instance whilst talking about the Gibson interview? Obama doesn't work for ABC. He has no control over what Charlie Gibson does. But anyway, I'll bite... One of the purposes of having a VP is he/she is there to serve as the stand-in/replacement should the president become incapacitated or becomes dead as a Dodo whilst in office. And there is a very real possibility that it could happen seeing as McCain is as old as the hills and is also a cancer survivor. Palin should have to talk about the issues moreso than any other VP in history as McCain is the oldest presidential candidate in history (Reagan doesn't count as he was running for re-election in 1984). Anyway, Biden will have to talk about the issues. You're telling me the Republicans won't try to twist his stance on key issues???

 

Charlie Gibson is a solid journalist. The only thing wrong with the interview was the terrible editing done by ABC. Why the hell didn't they get their best editing team on the assignment? It looked like it was put together by a novice using Windows Movie Maker. Dreadful. He did the right thing by asking those questions. We don't know Sarah Palin. Most of us didn't know who the hell she was until a couple of weeks ago. She didn't deserve a free pass. And she can expect even tougher questioning in the weeks ahead. And she can also expect Joe Biden to bury her when they debate.

 

Seriously, Hillary-obsessives are hilarious!

 

Also, notice how some of us can talk about politics using our own thoughts and words? And we don't need to regurgitate what we read in YouTube comments and on other sites and forums? (Mainly cos we wouldn't be caught dead taking anything we read on YT seriously)

Edited September 13, 2008 at 10:48 PM by incognito

[PrincesseJen]

Ugly pink font and worthless links and lie's wont make a difference

 

 

What makes me laugh is how people refuse to see that Obama is not innocent. Anything bad about Obama must be lie because surley he would never do anything wrong. He is the chosen one after all. It's also funny how you can call links you don't click on worthless and call proven evidence of fraud, lies. Are you that gullible? Why do you wish to stay ignorant of what really happened?

 

And Incognito, I use my own thoughts and words. I use links to back them up. I am not alone in what I think. The fact is your thoughts and words are missplaced behind a fraudulent candidate. I've heard the same phrases and lines from many Obama supporters which seem to come from the same manuel. Obama spent most of the primary season dodging the issues and trying to make people believe experience was overrated. I find it amusing he is attacking the VP on those very same things when he has yet to proven his on worth on experience and the issues. I do agree that the editing of the interview was terrible. ABC actually edited out key parts of the interview. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/...palin-interview

[PrincesseJen]

Obama camp caught in another attempt to smear Palin. In a response to the Obama camps desparate memo claiming Palin didn't visit Iraq:

 

“Last summer, Governor Palin traveled to Kuwait where she visited Alaskan National Guard troops deployed to the war in Iraq at Camp Arifjen. While she was there she traveled to the K Crossing on the Kuwait-Iraq border, and a quarter mile into Iraq. According to the General who traveled with her, while she was there she presided over a re-enlistment ceremony of an Alaskan National Guard soldier. En route back to the United States, she traveled to the Ramstein Air Base in Germany. While in Germany, Governor Palin visited wounded soldiers at the Landstuhl military hospital.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/13...e-or-didnt-she/

[Nmj]

Ugly pink font and worthless links and lie's wont make a difference

 

 

What makes me laugh is how people refuse to see that Obama is not innocent. Anything bad about Obama must be lie because surley he would never do anything wrong. He is the chosen one after all. It's also funny how you can call links you don't click on worthless and call proven evidence of fraud, lies. Are you that gullible? Why do you wish to stay ignorant of what really happened?

 

And Incognito, I use my own thoughts and words. I use links to back them up. I am not alone in what I think. The fact is your thoughts and words are missplaced behind a fraudulent candidate. I've heard the same phrases and lines from many Obama supporters which seem to come from the same manuel. Obama spent most of the primary season dodging the issues and trying to make people believe experience was overrated. I find it amusing he is attacking the VP on those very same things when he has yet to proven his on worth on experience and the issues. I do agree that the editing of the interview was terrible. ABC actually edited out key parts of the interview. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/...palin-interview

 

 

I Didnt say he is totally innocent ...but who is in politics NO ONE yes Jen Not even Hillary

but he is more innocent than McCain in my views

-Nmj

[PrincesseJen]

I Didnt say he is totally innocent ...but who is in politics NO ONE yes Jen Not even Hillary

but he is more innocent than McCain in my views

-Nmj

 

You have the right to have that opinion. I'm just trying to provide information that in this case McCain is surprisingly the lesser of two evils. McCain is at least a known enemy. Many know where he stands. There is still so much more to learn about Obama. When you scratch the surface it gets a little scary. He doesn't make it any easier when he flip flops on the issues. Frankly, I don't want either one of them. But since this is the choice we find ourselves with (much thanks to the DNC) I'm gonna go for McCain. He has more experience and at least has a record of doing things and not just talking about things and voting "present" on the issues. McCain actually has a record of crossing party lines and even making his own party mad. Remember, Republicans never wanted McCain as their nominee. He wasn't conservative enough for them. However his history with working with Democrats has turned him into their best hope since a lot of Democrats respect him. That's another reason why millions of Clinton supporters will be voting for him. In fact, just recently we learned a Democractic state legislator from New Hampshire has endorsed McCain and the New York Post that endorsed Obama in the primaries have endorsed McCain as well. I suspect more democrats will come out for him.

Edited September 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM by PrincesseJen

[incognito]

In fact, just recently we learned a Democractic state legislator from New Hampshire has endorsed McCain and the New York Post that endorsed Obama in the primaries have endorsed McCain as well. I suspect more democrats will come out for him.

 

LOL The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns FOX NEWS. Is it ANY shock that they endorse a Republican for the election when it finally comes down to Republican v Democrat? The New York Post was never Democrat to start with.

Edited September 14, 2008 at 01:03 PM by incognito

[LVCeline]

I'd like someone to tell me why we keep continuing this argument with PrincesseJen going, because it's obvious she is not going to be changing her mind about Obama and those who support him will not jump sides to McCain.

 

I think the bottom line is we need to focus on the issues at hand, and stop the smear campaign against either candidate. This goes especially true for the candidates themselves. There is too much distraction and "mud slinging" in this election. You can side with either candidate based on where they stand on the issues, but arguing about anything else will get nowhere fast I am against McCain strictly because I do not feel his position on the issues is where my personal opinions fall. I don't have anything against him personally, nor do I Sarah Palin. I don't feel they are what we need in this country at this time.

 

I think Republicans need to give Obama a little more credit. I really think he's got more substance than they would like to believe. He beat out fellow Democrats with many more years of experience in Washington, from Senators to Governors and came out on top. Do they think that almost 50% of Americans are stupid for believing what he says, or is it out of the realm of possibility that he could actually be what this country needs in a President? He's neck and neck with McCain himself who has been in the Senate for 20+ years and is some sort of supposed "war hero." He is not to be underestimated!

[sova]

obama :clap:

 

:bye1: :bye1:

[amyja89]

I'm not getting involved with all these Obama conspiracy arguments because I don't have enough knowledge on the topic, but to change the focus slightly, all I know is that Sarah Palin stands for most things that I find wrong and backwards in the world.

 

> She thinks that the war on Iraq was a "task that is from God".

> She is against stem cell research.

> She is opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest.

> She wants abstinence-only sex education in schools. (Obviously her daughter didn't take too kindly to that! )

> She is against gay marriage.

> She is opposed to state covered health and retiree benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.

> She is in favor of capital punishment.

> She supports the right to bear arms and gun-safety classes in schools. (So it's okay for a child to be taught how to use a gun safely, but not how to have sex safely?!)

> She claims to be big on climate change, but does not believe that the problem is man-made.

 

I'll be the first to admit that I don't have 100% knowledge on all of these topics, but I am competent enough to have an opinion on each of them, and every single one is the opposite of Palin's.

 

I'm not looking to get into an argument here, just simply stating my views.

Edited September 15, 2008 at 07:26 AM by amyja89

[angel_christ]

I'd vote for Obama if I were an American. I agree with him about Iraq, I don't like those craps by GWB.

(By the way, GWB has secretly caused some political issues here too. We need peace, ya know?!)