The Next U.S.A President

[PrincesseJen]

I'm not getting involved with all these Obama conspiracy arguments because I don't have enough knowledge on the topic, but to change the focus slightly, all I know is that Sarah Palin stands for most things that I find wrong and backwards in the world.

 

> She thinks that the war on Iraq was a "task that is from God".

> She is against stem cell research.

> She is opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest.

> She wants abstinence-only sex education in schools. (Obviously her daughter didn't take too kindly to that! )

> She is against gay marriage.

> She is opposed to state covered health and retiree benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.

> She is in favor of capital punishment.

> She supports the right to bear arms and gun-safety classes in schools. (So it's okay for a child to be taught how to use a gun safely, but not how to have sex safely?!)

> She claims to be big on climate change, but does not believe that the problem is man-made.

 

I'll be the first to admit that I don't have 100% knowledge on all of these topics, but I am competent enough to have an opinion on each of them, and every single one is the opposite of Palin's.

 

I'm not looking to get into an argument here, just simply stating my views.

 

You forget millions of Americans are Christian and can relate to her religious views. It's the media that mocks them. I'm pro-choice but I don't personally like abortion. Democrats like to throw Roe vs. Wade in womens faces to keep them hostage in their party. Palin is pro- concraception. Obama is not keen on gay issues himself. It wasn't even in his agenda. Mccain just released an ad that is PRO STEM CELL.

 

 

Please keep in mind that she is only running for VP not President. Never in history has a VP been attacked like this. As if she was running for President. The Democrats are in panic mode and unfortunately for them the more they attack her, the more they look bad to Americans who can relate to her.

 

 

Side note: HILARIOUS OBAMA GAFFE ON GMA TODAY

 

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/st...3765&page=1

 

Obama rejected suggestions that his campaign ad was a low blow.

 

"If we're going to ask questions about, you know, who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily," Obama said.

 

What Obama apparently meant was that McCain, not Obama, has put out more negative ads.

 

Edited September 15, 2008 at 09:44 PM by PrincesseJen

[Céline's Blues]

http://www.whiterabbitcult.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/soviet-palin-poster.jpg

[Nmj]

Cant stand Palin or McCain.

-Nmj

[fred]

Well Obama has gotten most money to his campaign from JP Morgan companies.

McCain aswell, but since Obama's share I think that shows where this selection leads.

 

Wake up America!

 

/fred

[Rossum89]

Obama.

 

I was for Hillary, big time, but I am not so bitter as to go against my beliefs and vote for McCain, especially after he picked Palin. I met Hillary twice, just as amazing as you would think, and I met Obama once and he was very humble and genuine.

 

Looking forward to the debate tomorrow, providing you-know-who doesn't pull a no-show.

[PrincesseJen]

Oh how the plot thickens. Can you guess who wants $20 million out of the BAILOUT DEAL? That's right, ACORN. I have posted many things on this corrupt organization that Obama worked for in this thread. Here's some new stuff.

 

The ACORN Posion Pill:

 

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/26/th...rn-poison-pill/

 

ACORN Calls on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to Modify Loans

 

 

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2008/0908-17

 

ACORN To Feds: Bail Out Main Street, Not Just Wall Street

 

http://www.thealbanyproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4477

 

Major Progressive and Labor Leaders Demand Conditions For Drastic Financial Bailout

 

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/majo...D&dist=hppr

 

 

Kill the bailout: More ACORN funding?!

 

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-...-acorn-funding/

 

Obama.

 

I was for Hillary, big time, but I am not so bitter as to go against my beliefs and vote for McCain, especially after he picked Palin. I met Hillary twice, just as amazing as you would think, and I met Obama once and he was very humble and genuine.

 

Looking forward to the debate tomorrow, providing you-know-who doesn't pull a no-show.

 

Spare me the usual "bitter" nonsense. It's not true and it's not going to help Obama get votes from us.

[WallsDoTalk]

This is the only time I wish I was American...to vote for Obama

Actually, to vote against anything related to Bush

 

I hate that guy....almost as much as you all hate me

[Angel, You thrill me]

would you stop! no one hates you lol, believe me. hate is a strong word, and only total a******* would actually mean it, some people may disagree with some of your posts, regarding some topics in particular, but no one hates you Edited September 26, 2008 at 07:02 PM by Angel125

[Love,]

How do you spell success?

 

O-B-A-M-A

 

 

 

John McCain gets more and more boring, more un-motivating, more egotistical, more condescending every time I see him on TV...

[Nmj]

Loves a cheerleader NOW.

[Bralo20]

It's not true and it's not going to help Obama get votes from us.

 

Our maybe just from you?

 

Let's hope that the otherones are smarther and will vote for Obama instead of McCain or not voting at all...

 

The US of A desevers somebody like Obama... It's been more than enough for now, let Bush & McCain play war at Bush his ranch

[Nmj]

AMEN

[LittleBrooks]

http://tdg.typepad.com/.a/6a00e553cca69a88...b5656970b-popup

 

Mr Obama, Hillary Cliton WON

 

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http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

 

http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/statistics/

Peniel Cronin "Primary versus Caucus" Final Report -2008

 

39 Primaries (State Run, State Financed)

34,829,191 Votes Cast 97%

 

17,657,517 Certified Votes - 50.7% Hillary Clinton - 1464 Pledged Delegates

17,171,674 Certified Votes - 49.3% Barack Obama - 1429 Pledged Delegates

Hillary Clinton: + 485,843 Certified Votes - 1.4% and 35 Delegates

 

The Pledged Delegate count is after the Democratic party "ajusted" the Pledged Delegates in Michigan and Florida, stripping Hillary Clinton of 66% of her Pledged Delegates won in Michigan and Florida

--If Florida and Michigan would have Voted "normal", How many more Certified Votes and Pledged Delegates would Hillary Clinton have won?

 

 

13 Caucuses (Party Run, Party Financed)

1,057,136 Votes Cast 2.9% --53% of these Votes (558,030) were an estimate

378,684 Estimated Votes - 36% Hillary Clinton - 171 Delegates

678,452 Estimated Votes - 64% Barack Obama - 323 Delegates

Barack Obama + 299,768 Estimated Votes +206 Pledged Delegates

 

ELECTORAL VOTES:

311 - Hillary Clinton

227 Barack Obama

270 Electoral Votes are needed to win in the November General Election

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Examples From: http://www.lynettelong.com/2008_Caucus_injustices_FINAL.pdf

 

Example 1: On February 9, Washington held its statewide caucus and an estimated 245,000 caucus-goers, 5.3% of

eligible voters chose Obama over Clinton by 67.5% to 31.2%, a whopping 36-point margin. Ten days later, WA held a

primary attended by 691,381 [15% of eligible voters, ie, almost 3 times the caucus turnout] and Obama won by 51.2% to

45.7%. [Citizens of WA voted-in a State-run Primary. However, the Party-run caucus results are still the legal results.]

Washington allocated its 78 pledged delegates at a ratio of 2:1 [67% to 33%] and Obama got 52 versus Clinton's 26. He

gained 26 delegates. If the pledged delegates had been allocated according to the primary results, Obama would have

won roughly 41 delegates compared to Clinton's 37. He would have gained only 4 delegates. Bottom line: The caucus vs.

primary election benefited Obama by a net 22 delegates , 18.3% of the 120 pledged delegates that separated the two.

--from - http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/washington.html - On February 9, 2008, the Washington State Caucus took place. Obama won this caucus 68% to 31%, a 37 point victory. Just ten days later, on February 19, 2008, Washington State had a primary election. This non-binding primary was affectionately called the beauty contest since no delegates were awarded. Obama got 354,112 votes and Hillary got 315,744 votes in the primary. Obama won this contest by a six point margin, 52% to 46%. How did the same pool of voters give the same two candidates such disparate results? How can two contests exactly ten days apart with the same candidates differ by thirty points? Obviously, the reliability of the elections in Washington State has to be questioned. Should one trust the caucus where there were thousands of participants and where participants were required to state their preferences in a public venue or should we trust the primary results where almost 700,000 voters participated in the privacy of a voting booth?

 

Example 2: Texas held a primary & caucus on March 4 and once again widely different results were recorded. Over 2.8

million Texans voted in the primary and gave Clinton a 100,000 vote margin over Obama, a 52% to 48% win. However,

just hours later, the Texas caucus registered an Obama win over Clinton of 56% to 44% [with 41% of the precincts

reporting, total caucus participation has not been released]. Allocation of the 126 primary pledged delegates were Clinton

65 and Obama 61. Allocation of the 67 caucus pledged delegates were Obama 38 and Clinton 29. Bottom line: Obama

actually won 5 more pledged delegates than Clinton in Texas. If all 193 pledged delegates were allocated based on the

2.8 million votes cast, Clinton would have received 100 versus 93 for Obama.

--from http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/texas.html --On March 4, 2008, Texas held its Democratic Primary, affectionately called the Texas-Two Step. Polls were open from 7 am to 7 pm and then after the polls closed, persons who voted in primary could participate in a caucus. According to CNN a total of 2,867,454 votes were cast in the Democratic Primary with 1,458,814 (51%) votes cast for Senator Hillary Clinton and 1,358,785 (47%) votes cast for Senator Barack Obama, and a smattering of votes (49,855) for John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, and Chris Dodd combined. A total of 8,247 precinct conventions, commonly called caucuses, took place throughout the 254 counties in Texas, most of which were held at each precinct's Primary polling place. If 100 people attended each of these “caucuses” than at least 800,000 people attended caucuses. The Dallas Morning News reported a projected turnout of 1.1 million. Overwhelmed by the participation, Texas stopped counting the results at only 41% of precincts counted. As a result of the Texas caucus, Obama was awarded 56% of precinct delegates and Clinton was awarded 44% of the precinct delegates. Since people who voted in the caucuses were required to have voted in their precinct, the voters in the caucus were statistically a subset of the voters in primary, but the results were statistically different. A more sophisticated analysis is required.

 

Example 3: On February 9, Nebraska held a caucus and only 3.04% of the 1.3 million eligible voters participated. Those

38,571 caucus-goers chose Obama over Clinton 68% to 32% and he won 16 of the 24 pledged delegates. In stark

contrast, on May 13th, Nebraska held a primary where nearly 94,000 voters [7.5% of eligible voters] chose Obama by

49.4% to 46.6%, only 2.8% instead of the 36% vote-spread recorded in the caucus. If delegates were allocated on the

results of the primary instead of the caucus, Obama and Clinton would have received 12 pledged delegates each. Bottom

line: Obama’s 13,700 vote victory in the red-state Nebraska caucus netted him 8 pledged delegates. Compare that to

Clinton's 204,000 vote victory in the battleground state of Ohio which netted her only 9 pledged delegates.

--from -- http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/nebraska.html -- Nebraska is one of the few states that had both a primary and a caucus. Obama won the caucus by 35 points but won the non-binding primary by only two points. Which of these results truly represents the will of the voters of Nebraska? In the caucus, Obama got 26,126 votes. In the primary, he got 46,279 votes. Obama got almost twice as many votes in the primary as the caucus, but Hillary who earned 12,445 votes in the caucus and 43,614 votes in the primary earned three and a half times as many votes in the primary as in the caucus. Again, why such divergent results?

 

Example 4: On February 5, Idaho held a caucus attended by just 2% of its 1,029,000 eligible voters, only 20,535 people

caucused. Once again, Obama prevailed with a 79% to 17% landslide victory over Clinton. He was awarded 15 of the 18

pledged delegates. On May 27th in the statewide primary, 42,900 Idaho voters (twice the caucus turnout) chose Obama

over Clinton by a much narrower 56% to 38%. Obama's vote margin dropped from a 62% spread to just 18%. If the

delegates had been allocated on primary results, he would have received 11 pledged versus 7 for Clinton. Bottom line:

Obama's 13,200 vote caucus win in Idaho (which has not voted Democratic since 1964) netted him 12 pledged delegates

the same number won by Clinton in a 214,100 vote victory in the state of Pennsylvania.

-- IDAHO ELECTION RESULTS

Democrats | Polls | County Results

Candidate Votes - % of votes - Delegates won

Obama - 16,880 - 80% - 15

Clinton - 3,655 - 17% - 3

Uncommitted - 552 - 3%

Edwards - 137 - 1% - 0

100% of precincts reporting

 

Tuesday 27 May 2008: Idaho Democratic non-binding Primary.

Today's primary has no effect on delegate allocation.

 

Primary results (as of 9:15A MDT 28 May 2008)

 

Barack Obama - 23,988 - 56%

Hillary Clinton - 16,119 - 38%

None of the names shown - 2,041 - 5%

Keith Russell Judd - 734 - 2%

Edited September 29, 2008 at 08:28 PM by LittleBrooks

[PrincesseJen]

It's not true and it's not going to help Obama get votes from us.

 

Our maybe just from you?

 

Let's hope that the otherones are smarther and will vote for Obama instead of McCain or not voting at all...

 

The US of A desevers somebody like Obama... It's been more than enough for now, let Bush & McCain play war at Bush his ranch

 

 

Nope. It's not just me.

 

Compounding Mr. Obama's challenges, about 29 percent of former rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's backers - more than 5 million voters - say they will cast their ballots for Mr. McCain, according to pollster John Zogby.

 

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/0...nvention/print/

 

The truth is Obama doesn't have as much support as you think he does. He has more support online but out in the real world more people support McCain. As far as polls showing him leading are concerned, you have to take a few things into account. One of them is the Bradley effect. People telling pollsters that they'll vote for Obama for fear if they don't they'll be deemed as racist. Though they do not intend on voting for him in the GE. The primaries proved this. People said one thing and voted another. Polls did not equal votes.

Edited September 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM by PrincesseJen

[Love,]

I just love Bill Clinton!

 

[Céline's Blues]

October 4, 2008

EDITORIAL

Dick Cheney, Role Model

In all the talk about the vice-presidential debate, there was an issue that did not get much attention but kept nagging at us: Sarah Palin’s description of the role and the responsibilities of the office for which she is running, vice president of the United States.

 

In Thursday night’s debate, Ms. Palin was asked about the vice president’s role in government. She said she agreed with Dick Cheney that “we have a lot of flexibility in there” under the Constitution. And she declared that she was “thankful that the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it.”

 

It is hard to tell from Ms. Palin’s remarks whether she understands how profoundly Dick Cheney has reshaped the vice presidency — as part of a larger drive to free the executive branch from all checks and balances. Nor did she seem to understand how much damage that has done to American democracy.

 

Mr. Cheney has shown what can happen when a vice president — a position that is easy to lampoon and overlook — is given free rein by the president and does not care about trampling on the Constitution.

 

Mr. Cheney has long taken the bizarre view that the lesson of Watergate was that Congress was too powerful and the president not powerful enough. He dedicated himself to expanding President Bush’s authority and arrogating to himself executive, legislative and legal powers that are nowhere in the Constitution.

 

This isn’t the first time that Ms. Palin was confronted with the issue. In an interview with Katie Couric of CBS News, the Alaska governor was asked what she thought was the best and worst about the Cheney vice presidency. Ms. Palin tried to dodge: laughing and joking about the hunting accident in which Mr. Cheney accidentally shot a friend. The only thing she had to add was that Mr. Cheney showed support for the troops in Iraq.

 

There was not a word about Mr. Cheney’s role in starting the war with Iraq, in misleading Americans about weapons of mass destruction, in leading the charge to create illegal prison camps where detainees are tortured, in illegally wiretapping Americans, in creating an energy policy that favored the oil industry that made him very rich before the administration began.

 

Ms. Couric asked Joseph Biden, Ms. Palin’s rival, the same question in a separate interview. He had it exactly right when he told her that Mr. Cheney’s theory of the “unitary executive” held that “Congress and the people have no power in a time of war.” And he had it right in the debate when he called Mr. Cheney “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had in American history.”

 

The Constitution does not state or imply any flexibility in the office of vice president. It gives the vice president no legislative responsibilities other than casting a tie-breaking vote in the Senate when needed and no executive powers at all. The vice president’s constitutional role is to be ready to serve if the president dies or becomes incapacitated.

 

Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice president who understands and respects the balance of power — and the limits of his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy.

 

So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.

[Love,]

Loves a cheerleader NOW.

Please don't picture me in one of those male cheerleader uniforms!

[Cheerfuljane]

It's not true and it's not going to help Obama get votes from us.

 

Our maybe just from you?

 

Let's hope that the otherones are smarther and will vote for Obama instead of McCain or not voting at all...

 

The US of A desevers somebody like Obama... It's been more than enough for now, let Bush & McCain play war at Bush his ranch

 

 

Nope. It's not just me.

 

 

The truth is Obama doesn't have as much support as you think he does. He has more support online but out in the real world more people support McCain. As far as polls showing him leading are concerned, you have to take a few things into account. One of them is the Bradley effect. People telling pollsters that they'll vote for Obama for fear if they don't they'll be deemed as racist. Though they do not intend on voting for him in the GE. The primaries proved this. People said one thing and voted another. Polls did not equal votes.

 

I`m with Jen 100%

 

Can`t wait for the debate tonight

 

If it`s anything like the VP one last week then McCain is gonna kick butt

[smw]

Obama. Will. Win.

[Céline's Blues]

OMG @ last night:

 

Was McCain crushed or was McCain slaughtered?

 

This was actually the first time I saw and felt my hopes up for Obama's presidency. I still think he has a long way to go but he is on the verge of being unstoppable now. HE must freaking NOT let it slip away from him.

[Cheerfuljane]

Obama has definitely been on a Dale Carnegie course

[Bralo20]

I`m with Jen 100%

 

Can`t wait for the debate tonight

 

If it`s anything like the VP one last week then McCain is gonna kick butt

 

It seemed that Obama won the debate

[Love,]

I just love Michelle Obama!

 

[Nmj]

Obama did WIN the debate and many CNN and other news specialists say her just won he election with that performance..... Jen Get ready to call Obama...."President Barack Obama".

-Nmj

[whineupemily]

I think William Taft will be the next President

[incognito]

Palin is pro- concraception.

 

 

 

No she isn't "pro-contraception". She's against it as her own personal choice. She's against abortion. She's not a fan of the morning-after pill and she favors abstinence over the use of condoms.

[Love,]

Howdy, I'm Serrrah Paylun. Whun I becum dee vice preezeedent uf dee Unitee Statezzz uf Amayereeka, I wull breeng dee Ulaskun trudeechun ta Warshingtun whur all we ken du is fish and hunt fur seals un drill fur oi-yull un play sum hockee to keep us away frum feeling love and having any kind of sex-chu-old thodz and name aw kidz apple, plum un berries... and wutch out fur Pooten so he won't rear hiz head on us...AND...and... AND... John... whats-his-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-name... Mac-Cain is... uh-uh-uh-uh-uh a Mav-ver-RICK!

[incognito]

Howdy, I'm Serrrah Paylun. Whun I becum dee vice preezeedent uf dee Unitee Statezzz uf Amayereeka, I wull breeng dee Ulaskun trudeechun ta Warshingtun whur all we ken du is fish and hunt fur seals un drill fur oi-yull un play sum hockee to keep us away frum feeling love and having any kind of sex-chu-old thodz and name aw kidz apple, plum un berries... and wutch out fur Pooten so he won't rear hiz head on us...AND...and... AND... John... whats-his-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-name... Mac-Cain is... uh-uh-uh-uh-uh a Mav-ver-RICK!

 

You betcha!!! But you forgot to mention her son over in I-Rack

Edited October 10, 2008 at 12:25 AM by incognito

[Cheerfuljane]

The SNL skit tonight had me in hysterics

[Legende]

I hope for Obama ... and he's on a good way