Mariah Carey: Official Topic

[GoldenLeaf]

FLOP??? are these people still bitter about what happened to TC?

Why TC should be considered as a flop when it sold nearly 3 millions worldwide ? Are u still bitter about what happened to Discipline ?

[Black Kitten]

FLOP??? are these people still bitter about what happened to TC?

Why TC should be considered as a flop when it sold nearly 3 millions worldwide ? Are u still bitter about what happened to Discipline ?

yes i regretfuly am. but who cares? janet is the queen of flops anyway and everyone should deal with it!

[corr_azy]

I don't think people here realize how stupid they are sounding when they say E=MC2 is a flop or by comparing it to Taking Chances. E=MC2 has only been out for 3 weeks. Taking Chances - 5 months. 3 million in 5 months isn't exactly a fabulous number. We shall see after 5 months how well E=MC2 does.

[Bellamy]

We're not comparing 5 months sales of TC with E=MC2. We're comparing week to week sales. Not mention TC had sold more than 3 million records in 2007 already. That's less than 2 months.

[carlottazenere]

touch my body can't be considered a song..it's simply horrible..I prefer britney rather than mariah

[VinnyT.]

FLOP??? are these people still bitter about what happened to TC?

I dont think so! Mariah will sell more than celine for sure she has good promo good singles videoclips etc etc!but comparing week after week they sold the same figures more or less..that's what we ar saying. So if after few weeks Mariah's fans called tch a flop so i have to say that the same it is happing to Mariah coz the sales world wide are very very similar

 

PS

 

4th week Netherlands:

 

from # 28 to #42 (Celine currently is at # 29)

Edited May 10, 2008 at 06:25 PM by VinnyT.

[Prince Whiskers]

Vinny, do the 1,075,000 for Mariah and the 1,054,000 for Celine include sales from South Africa?

 

This album is really fast losing momentum in Europe. The gulf between her appeal in the US and her appeal in Europe has never been more obvious.

[corr_azy]

We're not comparing 5 months sales of TC with E=MC2. We're comparing week to week sales. Not mention TC had sold more than 3 million records in 2007 already. That's less than 2 months.

 

Doesn't that make it even worse? It just shows that Taking Chances still isn't selling despite her world tour. We'll have to wait and see how well E=MC2 does after the same period of time.

[VinnyT.]

Vinny, do the 1,075,000 for Mariah and the 1,054,000 for Celine include sales from South Africa?

 

This album is really fast losing momentum in Europe. The gulf between her appeal in the US and her appeal in Europe has never been more obvious.

 

Correct!these are their sales in 3 weeks!

 

We're not comparing 5 months sales of TC with E=MC2. We're comparing week to week sales. Not mention TC had sold more than 3 million records in 2007 already. That's less than 2 months.

 

Doesn't that make it even worse? It just shows that Taking Chances still isn't selling despite her world tour. We'll have to wait and see how well E=MC2 does after the same period of time.

 

Once again comparing the same weeks they are selling the same!that's why I said mariah's fans called TC a flop just after few weeks, so for now according to their theory they are both a flop! and BTW Celine after performing in Australia the album is going up and up.This week from 48 to 39.

 

BTW mariah's 3rd week in Australia:

 

E=MC²:from #11 to #21 (-10)

 

Dont get me wrong I'm sure mariah will sell more than celine thanks to Usa but it will be not a successful album as fans meant/want i think if she is lucky she will sell max 5 millions world wide. This is my opinion

 

PS

 

Mariah's sales in UK are so disappointing in 3 weeks she sold just around 60k(celine more than 100 and till now more than 340k)Celine in her first week in Uk sold 56k. Figure it out by yourself...

[Bellamy]

Seems some lambs have reading comprehension problem. If I were you, I won't explain to them any more.

[Prince Whiskers]

Dont get me wrong I'm sure mariah will sell more than celine thanks to Usa but it will be not a successful album as fans meant/want i think if she is lucky she will sell max 5 millions world wide. This is my opinion

Her album has just sold under 300k in Europe after 3 weeks. Can Mariah actually reach the million mark given that E=MC2 is practically dead in that continent? Can Mariah actually sell 3M copies in the US even as Bye Bye isn't proving to be the huge hit it was predicted to be?

Edited May 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM by manuel morriso

[VinnyT.]

Dont get me wrong I'm sure mariah will sell more than celine thanks to Usa but it will be not a successful album as fans meant/want i think if she is lucky she will sell max 5 millions world wide. This is my opinion

Her album has just sold under 300k in Europe after 3 weeks. Can Mariah actually reach the million mark given that E=MC2 is practically dead in that continent? Can Mariah actually sell 3M copies in the US even as Bye Bye isn't proving to be the huge hit it was predicted to be?

Time will tell...

[GoldenLeaf]

Dont get me wrong I'm sure mariah will sell more than celine thanks to Usa but it will be not a successful album as fans meant/want i think if she is lucky she will sell max 5 millions world wide. This is my opinion

Her album has just sold under 300k in Europe after 3 weeks. Can Mariah actually reach the million mark given that E=MC2 is practically dead in that continent? Can Mariah actually sell 3M copies in the US even as Bye Bye isn't proving to be the huge hit it was predicted to be?

I'm pretty sure Mariah will sell around 1.5 to 1.8 M in the US but definitely not 3 M! Maybe worldwide but certainly not in the US alone. That's just impossible.

[alextrusca]

How Dare You!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Unstoppable Mimi Shall outsell that Celin Dian.... :clap: :clap: :clap:

[VinnyT.]

4th week:

 

UK from #12 to #23

 

Italy from #22 to #29

Edited May 12, 2008 at 07:48 AM by VinnyT.

[Nikosn17]

a bit better then TEOM in the UK. Edited May 12, 2008 at 09:24 AM by Nikosn17

[VinnyT.]

a bit better then TEOM in the UK.

maybe positions but not about copies sold. I think this week sold 5-6k because last week was #12 with around 10k now it is #23 so...

[VinnyT.]

In Italy I dont know how much she sold in total but i think around 20k Edited May 12, 2008 at 10:59 AM by VinnyT.

[corr_azy]

Once again comparing the same weeks they are selling the same!that's why I said mariah's fans called TC a flop just after few weeks, so for now according to their theory they are both a flop! and BTW Celine after performing in Australia the album is going up and up.This week from 48 to 39.

 

That would be over-generalizing, wouldn't it? Many of the Celine fans here are also Mariah fans and I'm sure most of them feel that Taking Chances wasn't a flop. 3 million worldwide is definitely an acceptable number in today's music industry. I, for one, definitely do not see Taking Chances as a flop, but it is a fact that the album hasn't exactly been flying off the shelves even after Celine started her world tour.

 

And it seems like a lot of the people here feel that Europe and the USA are the only countries in the world. For your information, Mariah is doing very well in Asia. In Taiwan, the second biggest music market in Asia after Japan, E=MC2 has just dropped to 2 after 2 weeks at #1. In Japan, the 3rd biggest music market in the world, E=MC2 is at #11 on the album charts (which includes Japanese artists) and is only behind Leona Lewis on the international chart. And not to forget the Philippines where E=MC2 hit gold status after just 8 days.

 

I am as much of a Mariah fan as I am a Celine fan. But if there's a need for a comparison, I think it would only be fair to compare only a few months after an album's release. Mariah is bigger in the USA and Celine is bigger in Europe. So what's the whole fuss about? I don't agree with the week-on-week comparison (Yes, I can read but I just don't agree with this form of comparison and I certainly don't need people to "explain" because I can read pretty well on my own, thanks.) although some people are saying that Mariah fans claimed that Taking Chances was a flop and so E=MC2 is a flop. For me, an album's success is based on it's longevity. So we will see when Mariah starts doing her promotion, tours and stuff. But that's just my opinion.

[VinnyT.]

And it seems like a lot of the people here feel that Europe and the USA are the only countries in the world. For your information, Mariah is doing very well in Asia. In Taiwan, the second biggest music market in Asia after Japan, E=MC2 has just dropped to 2 after 2 weeks at #1. In Japan, the 3rd biggest music market in the world, E=MC2 is at #11 on the album charts (which includes Japanese artists) and is only behind Leona Lewis on the international chart. And not to forget the Philippines where E=MC2 hit gold status after just 8 days.yes we all have opinions.

 

sure and i know she sold 75k till now in japan but also many celine's album reached #1 so easily in tawain. And about Philippines she got gold in 8 days(gold=15k) and that's all shipment. I follow the charts very carefully and i know also all the details

 

BTW

 

We will keep on comparing weeks with no problem

Edited May 12, 2008 at 03:20 PM by VinnyT.

[Nikosn17]

HITS Daily Double: Building Album Sales Chart 28.66%

 

1. Toby Keith 33,390

2. Neil Diamond 28,585

3. Mariah 28,199

4. Lewis 24,516

5. Clay 19,659

6. Madonna 19,584

 

If Madonna continues this way I think Mariah may be #1 next week

Edited May 12, 2008 at 03:32 PM by Nikosn17

[Black Kitten]

i am from the Philippines. but i really doubt the fact that her album reached Gold in just 8 days. yes i wish it's true as i am a fan, but our country is facing a crisis now. the price of her cd is PhP 459.000 (approx. US$ 11-12). the PEP (Philippine Entertainment Portal) columnist didn't even post the link of PARI (Philippine Association of Recording Industry) to defend his news. at first, i was amazed. but later on i was like "wait a minute, E=MC2 has no HUGE hit here (TMB was a hit, but not a SMASH), no huge promotion, no nothing!" and PEP's news is over sensationalized. who knows that gay columnist is a LAMB who just wanted to make some noise to promote Carey's latest cd? just an opinion, i don't believe E=MC2 sold 10-15k in just 8 days.

 

the album was released during the oil price hike, rice crisis, power crisis, etc... we all know we are NO america, or japan.

Edited May 12, 2008 at 03:45 PM by dhena

[VinnyT.]

i don't believe E=MC2 sold 10-15k in just 8 days.

dhena I think it is true but it is shipment, so in 8 days i think the cd sold for real 4-5k

[Céline's Blues]

Madonna, Mariah = SUCCESS & COOL 4 EVER

 

Celine = FLOP & NON SE NE FREGA 4 EVER

[VinnyT.]

Madonna, Mariah = SUCCESS & COOL 4 EVER

 

Celine = FLOP & NON SE NE FREGA 4 EVER

:sofunny:

[dj4celine]

Madonna, Mariah = SUCCESS & COOL 4 EVER

 

Celine = FLOP & NON SE NE FREGA 4 EVER

 

Here we go again :mdr:

[VinnyT.]

HITS Daily Double: Building Album Sales Chart 28.66%

 

1. Toby Keith 33,390

2. Neil Diamond 28,585

3. Mariah 28,199

4. Lewis 24,516

5. Clay 19,659

6. Madonna 19,584

 

If Madonna continues this way I think Mariah may be #1 next week

 

...are you sure???

 

CHART DATE: 05/12/2008

LAST UPDATE: 05/12/2008 13:27:28

NOW IN: 48.42%

 

LW TW artist / album label power index

-- 1 NEIL DIAMOND COLUMBIA 61,852

HOME BEFORE DARK

-- 2 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG/UNIVERSAL NASH 53,870

35 BIGGEST HITS

3 3 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 42,051

SPIRIT

1 4 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 41,887

HARD CANDY

-- 5 CLAY AIKEN RCA/RMG 37,886

ON MY WAY HERE

2 6 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 28,882

E=MC2

-- 7 GAVIN DEGRAW J RECORDS/RMG 27,301

GAVIN DEGRAW

-- 8 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 26,254

AWAKE LIVE

-- 9 DIERKS BENTLEY CAPITOL NASHVILLE 23,681

GREATEST HITS 2003-2006

18 10 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 19,609

TROUBADOUR

 

:whistling:

[Céline's Blues]

Madonna, Mariah = SUCCESS & COOL 4 EVER

 

Celine = FLOP & NON SE NE FREGA 4 EVER

 

Here we go again :mdr:

 

I see that you have problems dealing with facts!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Gimme your MAriah bing bong NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[dj4celine]

Madonna, Mariah = SUCCESS & COOL 4 EVER

 

Celine = FLOP & NON SE NE FREGA 4 EVER

 

Here we go again :mdr:

 

I see that you have problems dealing with facts!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Gimme your MAriah bing bong NOW!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

well, you asked for Mariah's bong bong, didn't you?? So you ain't getting any of mine

[Nikosn17]

HITS Daily Double: Building Album Sales Chart 28.66%

 

1. Toby Keith 33,390

2. Neil Diamond 28,585

3. Mariah 28,199

4. Lewis 24,516

5. Clay 19,659

6. Madonna 19,584

 

If Madonna continues this way I think Mariah may be #1 next week

 

...are you sure???

 

CHART DATE: 05/12/2008

LAST UPDATE: 05/12/2008 13:27:28

NOW IN: 48.42%

 

LW TW artist / album label power index

-- 1 NEIL DIAMOND COLUMBIA 61,852

HOME BEFORE DARK

-- 2 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG/UNIVERSAL NASH 53,870

35 BIGGEST HITS

3 3 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 42,051

SPIRIT

1 4 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 41,887

HARD CANDY

-- 5 CLAY AIKEN RCA/RMG 37,886

ON MY WAY HERE

2 6 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 28,882

E=MC2

-- 7 GAVIN DEGRAW J RECORDS/RMG 27,301

GAVIN DEGRAW

-- 8 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 26,254

AWAKE LIVE

-- 9 DIERKS BENTLEY CAPITOL NASHVILLE 23,681

GREATEST HITS 2003-2006

18 10 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 19,609

TROUBADOUR

 

:whistling:

 

yeah actually... even with the updates next week It'll be different I'm sure.