New Celine CBS TV Special 2008 - That's Just The Woman In Me - 2-15-2008

[mebe]

http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,2311106149.aspx

[karatedude317]

That's Just The Woman In Me:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E1MyJGr9Jvo

 

I believe I've found a new appreciation for ''That's Just The Woman In Me''

 

 

Can't wait to hear it LIVE!!!!

 

With the vocal strain that song could cause, especially that scream in the end, I doubt we will hear that song live.

[CelineTheBest5]

River Deep, Mountain High

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r5DCRh3q2R8

 

 

Taking Chances

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NQa5PP4XH5o

[Jessyka]

Alone:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=snshESJRios

[artistman2007]

thank u so much for the links but u know what she moves better when shes not singing in playback

[OlivierAllemagne]

The following is a lengthy opinion about all those who doubt and who always criticize Céline’s voice, which follows the tough critics I have read about the 2008 CBS Special.

 

INTRODUCTION

 

First of all, let me introduce myself, because I rarely make comments on the forum. I am Olivier, 25 years old, from France but living in Munich (Germany), trainee at BMW in the Importership department, Céline Dion fan since 1999. I decided to write this, because I have been quite upset by some of you who have become used to constantly criticize Miss Céline Dion for her voice.

 

1. FACTS REMINDERS

 

In many articles and forums both in French and English I have read many complaints and very tough critics about Céline’s live or playback performances. It often leads to endless debates about Céline’s voice, Céline’s concerts, Céline’s ability to sing, etc. Obviously Céline’s voice is a matter of discussion. Her voice, is one the core reasons why many, not to say most fans love and will always love Céline. Her career and the marketing surrounding her team’s strategy to make her become an international superstar was based on the following principle : “don’t forget the name because you’ll never forget the voice”.

 

Like I have already mentioned, there have been tremendous critics about Céline Dion’s performances by some “fans” in the forums… Those people started saying things like :

 

- she can’t sing as she used to,

- she now sings one key below (are you musicians ?),

- she can’t perform as in the 90’s,

- 70%, 90%, 45%... (why not 12.930.848.383%?) of A New Day was lip-synched,

- her live singings are more and more rare (5 days a week 5 years in a row is not enough for you…),

- it is a scandal that TV specials and appearances are lip-synched,

- her next tour Taking Chances will also be partially lip-synched, like A New Day,

- etc.

 

Let me tell you why I think you guys are not only wrong, but also somewhat disgusting.

 

2. ABOUT HER CONCERTS

 

Here I would like to talk about the concerts, i.e. A New Day as well as past and previous tours but not the TV appearances. According to you, a certain percentage of Céline’s songs are actually lip-synched or at least loudly technically assisted. You said that mainly for A New Day, but I also read similar comments on past tours as well as on the Taking Chances Tour, which has barely begun (meaning you do not even judge on facts).

 

I think you are wrong and you insult Céline and I think it is disgusting to say so.

 

2.1. If it was true, why has not it been revealed by the media?

 

How can you seriously think Céline would have been lip-synched 5 days a week 5 years in a row, without any journalist or critic revealing this fact? Don’t you think there would have been media reports, or least tough critics or attempts at making a scandal? Don’t you think at least one professional review would have mentioned the fact that Céline would be lip-synching part of her shows? How can you explain the fact that we do not find no professional critics about her live singing in the media (there are professional critics about her way of interpreting, about her style, her music production, her artistry, but no critics about her voice as such). How do you explain that over the years there were no journalists, no critics - i.e. no professionals - “revealing” Céline lip-synching A New Day? I mean, this would be the world’s best kept secret would not it?

 

Again, how come professionals in the media, in the music business, how come other artists have never revealed such a thing? This would have created an unprecedented scandal… Think: if all what you said was true, I am pretty sure this would have come up in the media. Céline’s reputation would already have been seriously broken or at least weakened.

 

But that is not what happened, on the contrary, the media focused on how successful the show has been all along the years, on how many people of the music industry were sceptical and did not believe in the project at the beginning and how the project actually eventually came out to be a huge success, which made other A-list artists want to do the same thing as Céline (Elton John, Cher, etc.). Nothing about the voice scandal that you describe.

 

Actually the sole controversy was in the early or mid 90’s when one of Celine’s former musicians’ revealed she was using some technical effects to emphasize some of her vocals. This did not ruin her career, because obviously this revelation had nothing to do with a scandal or with betraying the audiences…

 

Do you think you know better than people, journalists and professional critics? Have you been to all the 717 or so shows to compare? Who do you think you are to make estimates of the percentage of songs that were really sung live? Are you sound engineers? Are you sound technicians? You actually don’t know!

 

Moreover the DVD is selling so well, don’t you think one critic or one journalist would not have noticed that the DVD is not live?

 

I mean I am very surprised by the gap that exists between you and the media. Don’t tell me that the media just don’t touch at Céline, because they do: she has always had BAD critics, but those bad critics never said she was lip-synching, they insisted on her musical style, her production, etc… Her live performances have always been acclaimed on the contrary!

 

2.2. People have kept attending Céline’s concerts

 

Why were nearly all the shows all sold-out, if Céline lip-synched so much? Don’t you think the audience would have remarked or complained? Do you take people for idiots? Do you think you know better than the thousands of people who keep wanting to go to Céline’s concerts? Five years of live sold out shows and you are not even full of recognition for the person you are a “fan” of?

 

I mean this would be completely UNBELIEVABLE that THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ATTENDING CELINE’s SHOWS DON’T COMPLAIN if what you said was true. Oh I know, they are not sound experts like you are… But still, I think Céline would not betray her fans… I think indeed she has nothing to prove anymore.

 

2.3. The artist’s professional and ethical conscience

 

Can you know the feelings of an artist? Don’t you believe that Céline is an ethical person? That she is a professional and an artist? That she gives the best of her for her audience? That when you touch an artist’s credibility and ability you touch her heart? Moreover WHO WAS AT THE CONCERT THE NIGHT SHE LOST HER DAD? WAS IT LIPSYNCHED THAT NIGHT ALSO? Céline gave all she could as an artist.

 

2.4. The business

 

Do you think business executives of Caesar’s and show promoters would have spent millions of Dollars, would have bet on Céline Dion if they believed she could not sing for real? And now the Taking Chances world tour, why would promoters invest in her for a massive upcoming world tour if the PRODUCT - i.e. Céline’s voice - would not be there (sorry to speak like that lol but I studied business). If there is scandal that blows during or after the Taking Chances world tour, then we could discuss again. But I think there will be no scandal, like there was no scandal during the 5 years of A New Day, simply because she will sing live. I cannot believe some of you already saying Taking Chances will definitely be partially lip-synched (at the moment I am writing Céline is singing live in Pretoria for her first complete Taking Chances tour performance).

 

I am fed up with all those people always saying that A New Day or other tours were not entirely live. I believe there may be technical emphasizing effects, that all artists use, as already revealed in the nineties, but it has nothing to do with lip-synching. Maybe I am naïve but let us enjoy Céline. Obviously Céline is respected and her reputation is intact in the business and media, at least as far as her voice is concerned.

 

3. ABOUT HER TV APPEARANCES AND SPECIALS NOT LIVE

 

3.1. Look at the facts!

 

Fact number 1 = There have been so many TV live performances over the years and even in 2007 (thank you PrincesseJen from the forum for this listing): 1. American Music Awards, 2. The Today Show, 3. Ellen, 4. The Early Show, 5. The View, 6. Dancing With The Stars, 7. Oprah… And we can add the French Star Academy singing more than 4 times with the candidates this season, or X-factor, and the Oscar Legacy Performance to the legendary Enio Morricone, etc. Sorry but when I hear renditions of Because You Loved me on Ellen, Taking Chances on a number of shows (even the X-Factor show, you all say it is not a good performance, I think u are wrong, she still sounds great, hear it loud and you’ll see it is not bad, well that’s my opinion).

 

Why would she be invited to the Oscars in 2007, the most prestigious ceremony in the world, if music insiders thought she can’t do the job anymore?

 

Fact number 2 = we know that CBS specials have always been more or less lip-synched. Ok this time was maybe more than less (I am not sure of that, to take The Power of Love I don’t think it was lip-synched…). But what? That is nothing new. This is not a concert, this is a promotional event. A question: did you PAY to attend the CBS special?

 

Fact number 3 = it is totally normal to lip-synch at TV-shows. Most artists do that… TV shows are lip-synched by so many artists, that is for obvious cost and technical reasons. In France and Europe all artists promoting their new albums do lip-synch.

 

4. CONCLUSION ABOUT CELINE’S VOICE TODAY

 

I think many Céline fan actually wonder if she really sings live, because her vocals are so powerful and her way to sing is so precise that we may wonder… But that is what Jean Jacque Goldman (one of Céline’s French producers, a hugely respected artist in France) always said: Céline has the ability to remember smallest musical details and to sing so precisely…

 

Here is what a critic from the Los Angeles Times said in December 2007 about her last A New Day performance : “Her superhuman vocal cords rarely let her down (her pitch is so good that it often seemed like she was lip-synching)”.

 

SORRY I PREFER TO BELIEVE PROFESSIONAL CRITICS FROM A PRESTIGIOUS PAPER - The LA TIMES - THAN THE CRITICS OF “FANS” that just seem to be frustrated in fact.

 

I indeed actually think many of those who critic her that much, have lost the ability to dream, to just be enthused by an artist… You have lost the thrill… I think this is a kind of frustration… Enough is enough with all the “fans” that think they know everything, when they in fact know nothing. And the worth thing is that it all leads to many other fans becoming sceptical, this is spreading, you know, like RUMORS…

 

Another element is that Céline’s voice has changed a little bit in the years 2000, and that’s normal because she is NOT 20 anymore. Her voice is more mature. Sometimes not as perfect as it used to be. But even in the 90’s there were performances where it was not so perfect.

 

Now we should we make a list of all the live performances of the 2000’s to prove you guy, that YES celine does sing and still has one of the most remarkable instrument for a female artist…

 

I can’t understand people saying “well, that’s her job she HAS to sing”. Damn, I think, we as Céline Dion fans have rather a LOT of Céline new material, new TV shows, new live renditions, etc., etc., etc. I think Céline is one the most active stars in the music industry, maybe she’s even too present at times. I mean look at - say - Janet Jackson, we never see her…

 

Moreover another thing : I think a Céline Dion forum is for fans, and according to me a fan is someone who supports the person he/she is a fan of… Don’t give me democracy lessons (like “oh we have the right to debate, etc…”) because the Internet is BIG enough for your complaints to find space elsewhere (that is my opinion, I know it can be questioned…). I mean harsh critics like that… I sometimes asked myself : are you in fact Céline haters who try to install rumors on Céline’s forums ?

 

That was it… 

 

Olivier

[tholbert]

Kudos Olivier!! I am also disgusted by people that claim to be Celine fans but always find a reason to complain or criticize her! She is amazing- the end!

[Céline's Blues]

Great post passiva! Enjoyed reading it.

[Bumble]

Well, you may think whatever you want, but some facts don't lie:

Just take the DVD of au coeur du stade, use DVD audio extractor to extract the discrete sound channels, or cut all the channels but the center speaker.

Now listen to the concert, and be thrilled by the amazing songs known to be lipped where the mic sudenly doesn't capture anything (clappings, music) but the voice of celine. Yep, all the sounds are suddenly muted to deliver the sheer voice direct from the studio. This strange phenomenon doesn't occur on the other songs that are REALLY sung.

Now draw your own conclusions, or burry your head in the sand.

Edited February 16, 2008 at 10:39 PM by Clonazepam

[Céline's Blues]

Well, you may think whatever you want, but some facts don't lie:

Just take the DVD of au coeur du stade, use DVD audio extractor to extract the discrete sound channels, or cut all the channels but the center speaker.

Now listen to the concert, and be thrilled by the amazing songs known to be lipped where the mic sudenly doesn't capture anything (clappings, music) but the voice of celine. Yep, all the sounds are suddenly muted to deliver the sheer voice direct from the studio. This strange phenomenon doesn't occur on the other songs that are REALLY sung.

Now draw your own conclusions, or burry your head in the sand.

Well, her voice is actually filtered during the recording process, especially if the DVD is recorded in Dolby Digital there has to be a clear voice channel that can be clearly distinguished.

[Bumble]

Well, you may think whatever you want, but some facts don't lie:

Just take the DVD of au coeur du stade, use DVD audio extractor to extract the discrete sound channels, or cut all the channels but the center speaker.

Now listen to the concert, and be thrilled by the amazing songs known to be lipped where the mic sudenly doesn't capture anything (clappings, music) but the voice of celine. Yep, all the sounds are suddenly muted to deliver the sheer voice direct from the studio. This strange phenomenon doesn't occur on the other songs that are REALLY sung.

Now draw your own conclusions, or burry your head in the sand.

Well, her voice is actually filtered during the recording process, especially if the DVD is recorded in Dolby Digital there has to be a clear voice channel that can be clearly distinguished.

The thing is that it only occurs on the songs that are lipped or partially lipped.

[artistman2007]

too long to read lol

[cannonball]

Kudos Olivier!! I am also disgusted by people that claim to be Celine fans but always find a reason to complain or criticize her! She is amazing- the end!

 

 

I'm sorry, there's nothing amazing about a singer who doesn't sing. I love Celine more than anyone I know, and I could barely make it through the TV special because it was so fake. If she was going to have to put all that effort into looking like she was singing the songs, why not actually sing them?

 

This is a woman who is repeatedly told she has one of the best voices in the industry, and when she has the chance to show everyone that we get to listen to vocals ripped directly from her albums. It's not cool.

[ThisTime]

Kudos Olivier!! I am also disgusted by people that claim to be Celine fans but always find a reason to complain or criticize her! She is amazing- the end!

 

 

I'm sorry, there's nothing amazing about a singer who doesn't sing. I love Celine more than anyone I know, and I could barely make it through the TV special because it was so fake. If she was going to have to put all that effort into looking like she was singing the songs, why not actually sing them?

 

This is a woman who is repeatedly told she has one of the best voices in the industry, and when she has the chance to show everyone that we get to listen to vocals ripped directly from her albums. It's not cool.

Well, I'd rather see her lip than not see her at all.

But I understand where you are coming from.

[hellmeister]

WOO Olivier! You rock for standing up for Celine.... I agree 1000000%. Thanks for that!

[cannonball]

I'd rather see her wait to do the special until she felt more comfortable with the new material. It's clear that one of the reasons the special felt so rushed to some people was because CBS needed something to fill the airwaves during the writer's strike.

 

Hell, she could have sung the new songs in an empty theatre so she could rerecord if it didn't sound right, and do some fan fan favorites in front of an audience and edit the two together. Even that would have been better than what we got.

 

The special gave me serious reservations about the upcoming tour. I was going to try to go to more than one show, but if I'm just going to hear album tracks I'll leave it at one and stay home and listen to Taking Chances the other night.

[hellmeister]

The more I watch the videos of Celine the more I see that she is probably lip singing. I know for a fact that [and this is old news] she wasn't singing live at the Tree Lighting in NYC. Oh Holy Night was EXACTLY like her album version. I try to not get angry at the fact that she does indeed have this amazing talent and she is cheating us out of it. But, she has said many times in interviews that although her voice is an instrument- it isn't like a guitar where you can just tune it and fix it. She has her bad days... and she is still willing to entertain. Maybe I am just greatly underestimating her and she is just that damn good that she can be so precise when she sings. I don't know. I love her either way b/c she is the best. xoo love you Celine.

[JohnFan97]

The following is a lengthy opinion about all those who doubt and who always criticize Céline’s voice, which follows the tough critics I have read about the 2008 CBS Special.

 

INTRODUCTION

 

First of all, let me introduce myself, because I rarely make comments on the forum. I am Olivier, 25 years old, from France but living in Munich (Germany), trainee at BMW in the Importership department, Céline Dion fan since 1999. I decided to write this, because I have been quite upset by some of you who have become used to constantly criticize Miss Céline Dion for her voice.

 

1. FACTS REMINDERS

 

In many articles and forums both in French and English I have read many complaints and very tough critics about Céline’s live or playback performances. It often leads to endless debates about Céline’s voice, Céline’s concerts, Céline’s ability to sing, etc. Obviously Céline’s voice is a matter of discussion. Her voice, is one the core reasons why many, not to say most fans love and will always love Céline. Her career and the marketing surrounding her team’s strategy to make her become an international superstar was based on the following principle : “don’t forget the name because you’ll never forget the voice”.

 

Like I have already mentioned, there have been tremendous critics about Céline Dion’s performances by some “fans” in the forums… Those people started saying things like :

 

- she can’t sing as she used to,

- she now sings one key below (are you musicians ?),

- she can’t perform as in the 90’s,

- 70%, 90%, 45%... (why not 12.930.848.383%?) of A New Day was lip-synched,

- her live singings are more and more rare (5 days a week 5 years in a row is not enough for you…),

- it is a scandal that TV specials and appearances are lip-synched,

- her next tour Taking Chances will also be partially lip-synched, like A New Day,

- etc.

 

Let me tell you why I think you guys are not only wrong, but also somewhat disgusting.

 

2. ABOUT HER CONCERTS

 

Here I would like to talk about the concerts, i.e. A New Day as well as past and previous tours but not the TV appearances. According to you, a certain percentage of Céline’s songs are actually lip-synched or at least loudly technically assisted. You said that mainly for A New Day, but I also read similar comments on past tours as well as on the Taking Chances Tour, which has barely begun (meaning you do not even judge on facts).

 

I think you are wrong and you insult Céline and I think it is disgusting to say so.

 

2.1. If it was true, why has not it been revealed by the media?

 

How can you seriously think Céline would have been lip-synched 5 days a week 5 years in a row, without any journalist or critic revealing this fact? Don’t you think there would have been media reports, or least tough critics or attempts at making a scandal? Don’t you think at least one professional review would have mentioned the fact that Céline would be lip-synching part of her shows? How can you explain the fact that we do not find no professional critics about her live singing in the media (there are professional critics about her way of interpreting, about her style, her music production, her artistry, but no critics about her voice as such). How do you explain that over the years there were no journalists, no critics - i.e. no professionals - “revealing” Céline lip-synching A New Day? I mean, this would be the world’s best kept secret would not it?

 

Again, how come professionals in the media, in the music business, how come other artists have never revealed such a thing? This would have created an unprecedented scandal… Think: if all what you said was true, I am pretty sure this would have come up in the media. Céline’s reputation would already have been seriously broken or at least weakened.

 

But that is not what happened, on the contrary, the media focused on how successful the show has been all along the years, on how many people of the music industry were sceptical and did not believe in the project at the beginning and how the project actually eventually came out to be a huge success, which made other A-list artists want to do the same thing as Céline (Elton John, Cher, etc.). Nothing about the voice scandal that you describe.

 

Actually the sole controversy was in the early or mid 90’s when one of Celine’s former musicians’ revealed she was using some technical effects to emphasize some of her vocals. This did not ruin her career, because obviously this revelation had nothing to do with a scandal or with betraying the audiences…

 

Do you think you know better than people, journalists and professional critics? Have you been to all the 717 or so shows to compare? Who do you think you are to make estimates of the percentage of songs that were really sung live? Are you sound engineers? Are you sound technicians? You actually don’t know!

 

Moreover the DVD is selling so well, don’t you think one critic or one journalist would not have noticed that the DVD is not live?

 

I mean I am very surprised by the gap that exists between you and the media. Don’t tell me that the media just don’t touch at Céline, because they do: she has always had BAD critics, but those bad critics never said she was lip-synching, they insisted on her musical style, her production, etc… Her live performances have always been acclaimed on the contrary!

 

2.2. People have kept attending Céline’s concerts

 

Why were nearly all the shows all sold-out, if Céline lip-synched so much? Don’t you think the audience would have remarked or complained? Do you take people for idiots? Do you think you know better than the thousands of people who keep wanting to go to Céline’s concerts? Five years of live sold out shows and you are not even full of recognition for the person you are a “fan” of?

 

I mean this would be completely UNBELIEVABLE that THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ATTENDING CELINE’s SHOWS DON’T COMPLAIN if what you said was true. Oh I know, they are not sound experts like you are… But still, I think Céline would not betray her fans… I think indeed she has nothing to prove anymore.

 

2.3. The artist’s professional and ethical conscience

 

Can you know the feelings of an artist? Don’t you believe that Céline is an ethical person? That she is a professional and an artist? That she gives the best of her for her audience? That when you touch an artist’s credibility and ability you touch her heart? Moreover WHO WAS AT THE CONCERT THE NIGHT SHE LOST HER DAD? WAS IT LIPSYNCHED THAT NIGHT ALSO? Céline gave all she could as an artist.

 

2.4. The business

 

Do you think business executives of Caesar’s and show promoters would have spent millions of Dollars, would have bet on Céline Dion if they believed she could not sing for real? And now the Taking Chances world tour, why would promoters invest in her for a massive upcoming world tour if the PRODUCT - i.e. Céline’s voice - would not be there (sorry to speak like that lol but I studied business). If there is scandal that blows during or after the Taking Chances world tour, then we could discuss again. But I think there will be no scandal, like there was no scandal during the 5 years of A New Day, simply because she will sing live. I cannot believe some of you already saying Taking Chances will definitely be partially lip-synched (at the moment I am writing Céline is singing live in Pretoria for her first complete Taking Chances tour performance).

 

I am fed up with all those people always saying that A New Day or other tours were not entirely live. I believe there may be technical emphasizing effects, that all artists use, as already revealed in the nineties, but it has nothing to do with lip-synching. Maybe I am naïve but let us enjoy Céline. Obviously Céline is respected and her reputation is intact in the business and media, at least as far as her voice is concerned.

 

3. ABOUT HER TV APPEARANCES AND SPECIALS NOT LIVE

 

3.1. Look at the facts!

 

Fact number 1 = There have been so many TV live performances over the years and even in 2007 (thank you PrincesseJen from the forum for this listing): 1. American Music Awards, 2. The Today Show, 3. Ellen, 4. The Early Show, 5. The View, 6. Dancing With The Stars, 7. Oprah… And we can add the French Star Academy singing more than 4 times with the candidates this season, or X-factor, and the Oscar Legacy Performance to the legendary Enio Morricone, etc. Sorry but when I hear renditions of Because You Loved me on Ellen, Taking Chances on a number of shows (even the X-Factor show, you all say it is not a good performance, I think u are wrong, she still sounds great, hear it loud and you’ll see it is not bad, well that’s my opinion).

 

Why would she be invited to the Oscars in 2007, the most prestigious ceremony in the world, if music insiders thought she can’t do the job anymore?

 

Fact number 2 = we know that CBS specials have always been more or less lip-synched. Ok this time was maybe more than less (I am not sure of that, to take The Power of Love I don’t think it was lip-synched…). But what? That is nothing new. This is not a concert, this is a promotional event. A question: did you PAY to attend the CBS special?

 

Fact number 3 = it is totally normal to lip-synch at TV-shows. Most artists do that… TV shows are lip-synched by so many artists, that is for obvious cost and technical reasons. In France and Europe all artists promoting their new albums do lip-synch.

 

4. CONCLUSION ABOUT CELINE’S VOICE TODAY

 

I think many Céline fan actually wonder if she really sings live, because her vocals are so powerful and her way to sing is so precise that we may wonder… But that is what Jean Jacque Goldman (one of Céline’s French producers, a hugely respected artist in France) always said: Céline has the ability to remember smallest musical details and to sing so precisely…

 

Here is what a critic from the Los Angeles Times said in December 2007 about her last A New Day performance : “Her superhuman vocal cords rarely let her down (her pitch is so good that it often seemed like she was lip-synching)”.

 

SORRY I PREFER TO BELIEVE PROFESSIONAL CRITICS FROM A PRESTIGIOUS PAPER - The LA TIMES - THAN THE CRITICS OF “FANS” that just seem to be frustrated in fact.

 

I indeed actually think many of those who critic her that much, have lost the ability to dream, to just be enthused by an artist… You have lost the thrill… I think this is a kind of frustration… Enough is enough with all the “fans” that think they know everything, when they in fact know nothing. And the worth thing is that it all leads to many other fans becoming sceptical, this is spreading, you know, like RUMORS…

 

Another element is that Céline’s voice has changed a little bit in the years 2000, and that’s normal because she is NOT 20 anymore. Her voice is more mature. Sometimes not as perfect as it used to be. But even in the 90’s there were performances where it was not so perfect.

 

Now we should we make a list of all the live performances of the 2000’s to prove you guy, that YES celine does sing and still has one of the most remarkable instrument for a female artist…

 

I can’t understand people saying “well, that’s her job she HAS to sing”. Damn, I think, we as Céline Dion fans have rather a LOT of Céline new material, new TV shows, new live renditions, etc., etc., etc. I think Céline is one the most active stars in the music industry, maybe she’s even too present at times. I mean look at - say - Janet Jackson, we never see her…

 

Moreover another thing : I think a Céline Dion forum is for fans, and according to me a fan is someone who supports the person he/she is a fan of… Don’t give me democracy lessons (like “oh we have the right to debate, etc…”) because the Internet is BIG enough for your complaints to find space elsewhere (that is my opinion, I know it can be questioned…). I mean harsh critics like that… I sometimes asked myself : are you in fact Céline haters who try to install rumors on Céline’s forums ?

 

That was it… 

 

Olivier

 

Thanks oliver...... I agree 1000000000% with you. I saw the performance and The Power of Love, RDMH were live. Im sick of all this crap haters are attacking with. THe DVD sounds like that because it was made to fit dolby digital sound and they also used 5 days worth of video and cut various parts etc. to make the ultimate DVD. That's why it may seem like she was lipping but this was because they were using video from 5 DIFFERENT NIGHTS! The CBS special was FREE, and I enjoyed it. Even non celine fans enjoyed it and were just blown away. I think this guy that says her DVD was lipped should be banned because his past posts have always been anti-celine.

[kathy4]

hello and welcome to the forum. i also loved the special.

[nrcda88]

Kudos Oliver for that

 

this issue with Celine lip-syncing is getting over bearing now...its time to back off. it really doesn't bother me if she's lipping most or all of the songs...i'm more concerned with that we're actually getting to see Celine. she could've said to heck with tv specials & the tour & disappear after AND. she didn't, she's still here which is awesome. back to the topic...none of us are in any position to judge her with what she's doing now.

[cannonball]

Kudos Oliver for that

 

this issue with Celine lip-syncing is getting over bearing now...its time to back off. it really doesn't bother me if she's lipping most or all of the songs...i'm more concerned with that we're actually getting to see Celine. she could've said to heck with tv specials & the tour & disappear after AND. she didn't, she's still here which is awesome. back to the topic...none of us are in any position to judge her with what she's doing now.

 

I guess it's just weird to me that people who love someone's music don't care that the person isn't really singing their music. I guess if you guys are okay with getting what is essentially an over-produced Drag performance there's not much more to say.

[I Surrender]

Well stated Olivier, welcome.

[Shaun]

LOL. How can some of you people still be naive enough to deny that Celine lipsynchs to some songs whilst performing. That includes on tours, on tv shows and tv special and yes, for 5 years during A New Day...

 

We're all an intelligent and mature bunch here so let's just all be mature enough to admit that Celine does indeed lipsynch and not go making fun of other people's opinions.

 

If you enjoy Celine's music and performances, lipsynching or not, great for you. Surely that's all that matters.

[Black Kitten]

i can't, and i would not believe that long post. im sorry. AND and some of her concert piece are, if not fully, partially lipped esp TPOL & TLYM. i am not a music profesional but i don't want to insist that celine is not lipping. lipping is not a sin for someone like celine. im so sorry, but after reading that long post, i realized one thing. some celine fans are acting like a LAMB who always insists that mimi doesn't lip her songs, even the evidence are obvious enough to judge for yourself. what's more disgusting is the fans who are always in denial that their idols also lip their songs. IMHO.

 

BABY JUST HAVE AN EAR... IM BEGGING YOU..

LET CELINE SHOW YOU HOW MUCH SHE LIPPED YEAH..

BABY JUST HAVE AN EAR.. THIS MUCH IS TRUE...

BUT WE MISS CELINE'S VOICE, IM STILL IN LOVE WITH HER...

 

LOL

[Xpresso]

Great special!! I don't know what you guys expected in a 1-hour show with commercials. It leaves about 35-40 minutes of music... so I'm happy they choose to pull the older songs!!

 

As for miming, don't you realise Celine had to rehearse between 50-60 songs for her tour and rehearse for this special also (with new version of EOM and the beautiful Something)? Lipped or not, she had to learn these songs and remember them... And putting a show like this is a LOT of work. Let's be glad she went to LA to do this show. Let's not forget there was more to it, but it was edited for TV purposes.

 

Overall, it was a very nice special and it showed new songs from her album to the people who haven't bought it yet... and a really sexy new Celine to the people who hadn't seen her in a while... Let's see how this will impact the charts next week in the US and Canada!!

[Josh89]

I love the new mix of 'Eyes On Me' , I really want a MP3 of it. I cant wait to see this show, will it be uploaded on the forum soon?

[nano]

I love 'Something'...it's so touching.

[fred]

LOL. How can some of you people still be naive enough to deny that Celine lipsynchs to some songs whilst performing. That includes on tours, on tv shows and tv special and yes, for 5 years during A New Day...

 

We're all an intelligent and mature bunch here so let's just all be mature enough to admit that Celine does indeed lipsynch and not go making fun of other people's opinions.

 

If you enjoy Celine's music and performances, lipsynching or not, great for you. Surely that's all that matters.

Nice post.

 

Please people be reasonable. Be reasonable. How come a fan that from time to time say alloud that they don't like lip-synching suddenly become a "hater"?

 

I can't see why a fan's norm by many here is to wear blinkers.

 

/fred

[William2005]

Celine's special brought in about 7 1/2 million viewers last night. CBS ranked third for Friday night, according to a Nielson Soundscan report.

[Xpresso]

Celine's special brought in about 7 1/2 million viewers last night. CBS ranked third for Friday night, according to a Nielson Soundscan report.

Seems like these reports change all the time. We heard Celine's special was 2nd, then 1st in another report and now 3rd...

Oh well, it was 1st at my place!!