Celine Dion Voice Changes

June 18, 2020 at 10:57 AM

This was what a vocal maestro (who is trained in the true bel canto technique) had to say about Celine's recording of O Holy Night:

"This is a very interesting recording for several reasons. Regardless of technical things in the voice that could be better, mainly because she went to a teacher who was not great at a certain point in her career, you can hear a couple of things.

First, as I have often stated, depth/scuro/darkness is in opposition to nasality. While this teacher had her go nasal, the thing that saved her voice in the long run is that when she sings out fully she blares it out with depth and the nasality disappears.

Secondly, as Tom observed and said while watching her, "she is very musical."

Third, she doesn't try to sound fake singing. Just a natural sound. Lastly, she can actually sustain a note with vibrato which is lacking in non-classical singers today."

Tom LoMonaco was one of the last great opera singers and he complimented her!

Celine was fantastic during her earlier years (early '90s). Yes, she was nasal and still is but when she sings it out, there is no sign of nasality. When she was younger, her larynx was low to neutral, and her belts are open and connected to her core chest, indicating good engagement of thyroarytenoid (TA) muscle. Now, you can hear wear and tear in her voice when she reaches the high notes using twang and mask resonance, both of which are very damaging. The thing that saves her voice a lot is her strong foundation from her earlier years. All the vocal coaches from then only further damaged her voice.

You do realise heady mix, twang and placement of her voice in her mask was the only thing that SAVED her voice? From 1993-1997 she was literally screaming at times above D5, constantly straining and being chesty, noticeably after 1998 she started to utilise heady mix when it came to upper belts and it’s the only thing that has saved her voice from complete and utter destruction, because if she kept belting the way she was from 93-97 she would not have a voice anymore

June 18, 2020 at 11:29 AM

That’s why she should change her vocal coach now.. I think when they’re doing sessions they just gossip. I like her voice back in 2006-2009. Sounds fuller/thicker but they change her vocal coach back in 2014 when Aldo was still her manager

They changed it again more recently and her most recent coach (as of September 2019) said that Céline is very determined and works a lot on her voice, more than ever before.

June 18, 2020 at 11:35 AM

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You do realise heady mix, twang and placement of her voice in her mask was the only thing that SAVED her voice? From 1993-1997 she was literally screaming at times above D5, constantly straining and being chesty, noticeably after 1998 she started to utilise heady mix when it came to upper belts and it's the only thing that has saved her voice from complete and utter destruction, because if she kept belting the way she was from 93-97 she would not have a voice anymore

Yes, and I see people saying that nowadays she is more raspy than before on high notes when in fact I think it’s the opposite. In the 90s she sounded like she was pushing her voice to the limits, often sounding strained and raspy even on belts as low as Bb4. Now it seems like she’s protecting her voice more and avoiding/lipping more and approaching notes more gently.

Edited June 18, 2020 at 11:35 AM by Céline RO

June 18, 2020 at 01:58 PM

They changed it again more recently and her most recent coach (as of September 2019) said that Céline is very determined and works a lot on her voice, more than ever before.

You seem to have more information on that than the casual fans or I missed something ?

Where was it said that she changed her vocal coach recently, and where did this new coach declare that ? :wtf:

June 18, 2020 at 02:05 PM

You seem to have more information on that than the casual fans or I missed something ?
Where was it said that she changed her vocal coach recently, and where did this new coach declare that ?

By recently I mean that in 2015 she had a coach called Monique Cardinal and by 2018 she had got a new coach, Johanne Raby who still works with Céline to this day. There was an article from TVA Nouvelles from September 2019 in which Johanne Raby talked about how Céline’s voice has improved and how much Céline works on her voice.

June 18, 2020 at 02:10 PM

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You do realise her voice just changed with age right? And if anything to me her voice is richer now than it was before. Also, I'm glad she changed her vocal coach as whatever they were telling her to do was wrong, she sounded constantly exhausted, nasal and even congested, her belts weren't as full either, if you compare say Think Twice from the TCWT to now it's extremely evident that even now her voice is more powerful than it was on that tour

I don’t know... her voice changed in 2015 while her 2016 voice change is understandable. Well, we have different opinions about it. But i think her voice is much thicker before.

One example is her performance In Star Academy. Listen to how full/thick her voice was. (Very different from her 2003 voice) I don’t hear any nasal and exhausted vocals here. And her diction is way better here. And i like how she sing here. Slowly but clear. Very relax. Very pleasant to the ears. No thin “eur” words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHUONXfN-Tg&t=942s

Now, she’s like only focusing on the high notes like there’s tense building up in preparing the high belted notes and too much “yodeling”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjA19lvIqME

So, i prefer her old vocal coach where she sounded very relax and not making her singing faster like she’s about to pee

Also, her 2003 singing style changed in 2004 or 2005. I’m sure her vocal coach have a big help in that changes.

Edited June 18, 2020 at 02:18 PM by jpatdeleon09

June 18, 2020 at 02:17 PM

They changed it again more recently and her most recent coach (as of September 2019) said that Céline is very determined and works a lot on her voice, more than ever before.

Well, i hope she will find the best to help her with her “new voice”

June 18, 2020 at 02:43 PM

By recently I mean that in 2015 she had a coach called Monique Cardinal and by 2018 she had got a new coach, Johanne Raby who still works with Céline to this day. There was an article from TVA Nouvelles from September 2019 in which Johanne Raby talked about how Céline’s voice has improved and how much Céline works on her voice.

Thanks, she is clearly doing a great job and offering something new and good for her in my opinion.

June 18, 2020 at 05:42 PM

4:48 that note! Her voice sounds open. I really love this era

https://youtu.be/SjUdfwVQu8k

June 18, 2020 at 05:49 PM

😁I mean Jpat her voice is closed the whole song when not playbacked, her voice has been at her worst in her carrer most part of her whole a new day gig in term of clogged sound and you manage to still isolate this casual note 😁that s not fair.

June 18, 2020 at 06:38 PM

😁I mean Jpat her voice is closed the whole song when not playbacked, her voice has been at her worst in her carrer most part of her whole a new day gig in term of clogged sound and you manage to still isolate this casual note 😁that s not fair.

Exactly

June 18, 2020 at 06:39 PM

��I mean Jpat her voice is closed the whole song when not playbacked, her voice has been at her worst in her carrer most part of her whole a new day gig in term of clogged sound and you manage to still isolate this casual note ��that s not fair.

Really? But i find it better than now. I think her singing here are more open (just ignore the eq of the fancam) compared to "eur" instead of I surrend"Ahhh" which sounded open like this one

and stable/consistent and more controlled.

I think her worst part was in 2003-2004 (a new day) where she sounded too excited that lead her singing style became too thin and nasal. Thank god it changes in 2006

Now, It's not consistent anymore. There's always a "yodeling" singing style of Céline and I remember the "granny" singing style back in 2016

Coz' (yodel) I've been shaking I've (yodel) been bending Beckwerds

The clogged sound (isn't that an issue last last week?) It's not during this era but for the current era (Singing like in a can?)

So, I want to blame the new vocal coach.

Edited June 18, 2020 at 06:55 PM by jpatdeleon09

June 18, 2020 at 09:09 PM

Did she change voice coaches or do something between ending of A New Day and the TCWT?

That's the time I think the change in voice was most noticeable to me, personally

June 18, 2020 at 09:30 PM

Did she change voice coaches or do something between ending of A New Day and the TCWT?

That's the time I think the change in voice was most noticeable to me, personally

The ending of A New Day... her voice still sounds amazing. I remember people who have seen the final shows and said that it’s her most best performance ever. I remember he/she’s a member here on this forum.

So...

I think the most noticeable changes was in the middle of TCWT because the beginning of TCWT her voice still sounds like from A New Day.

Edited June 18, 2020 at 09:33 PM by jpatdeleon09

June 18, 2020 at 11:29 PM

The ending of A New Day... her voice still sounds amazing. I remember people who have seen the final shows and said that it's her most best performance ever. I remember he/she's a member here on this forum.

So...

I think the most noticeable changes was in the middle of TCWT because the beginning of TCWT her voice still sounds like from A New Day.

I didn't think she sounded bad at the end of A New Day... not by any means. But during the TCWT her very high mixed belts were basically out the blue and a new development. I know she had some moments using her mixed voice in "I Surrender" but it just seemed a different level.

June 19, 2020 at 04:38 AM

I didn't think she sounded bad at the end of A New Day... not by any means. But during the TCWT her very high mixed belts were basically out the blue and a new development. I know she had some moments using her mixed voice in "I Surrender" but it just seemed a different level.

I think her early shows of TCWT are not bad. Her singing style changes during half of the tour.

Yeah! Mostly In the era around 2003-2005. Mostly, are mixed voice not full voice like the one in the final shows.

June 19, 2020 at 07:35 AM

Is it just me or has Céline’s voice improved quite drastically recently. She’s been sounding amazing since the very first show of 2020! In 2019 many performances of songs such as IYAMT, TLBSEPT, YTV or RDMH were hit or miss whereas in 2020 she nails them almost all the time. To me her voice also doesn’t sound as dry or thin as before. It’s as if she’s gained some natural reverb and a more clear, lighter tone. Even her very high belts don’t sound quite as “heady” anymore. I think her voice now is the best it’s been since 2015!

I hope this continues! Her performance of “Une chance qu’on s’a” gives me hope. I’m so ready for 2021!

Edited June 19, 2020 at 07:38 AM by Céline RO

June 19, 2020 at 08:04 AM

Is it just me or has Céline’s voice improved quite drastically recently. She’s been sounding amazing since the very first show of 2020! In 2019 many performances of songs such as IYAMT, TLBSEPT, YTV or RDMH were hit or miss whereas in 2020 she nails them almost all the time. To me her voice also doesn’t sound as dry or thin as before. It’s as if she’s gained some natural reverb and a more clear, lighter tone. Even her very high belts don’t sound quite as “heady” anymore. I think her voice now is the best it’s been since 2015!

I hope this continues! Her performance of “Une chance qu’on s’a” gives me hope. I’m so ready for 2021!

someone said that she has a new vocal coach so maybe it helps her recent 2020 vocals better

June 19, 2020 at 01:08 PM

Is it just me or has Céline’s voice improved quite drastically recently. She’s been sounding amazing since the very first show of 2020! In 2019 many performances of songs such as IYAMT, TLBSEPT, YTV or RDMH were hit or miss whereas in 2020 she nails them almost all the time. To me her voice also doesn’t sound as dry or thin as before. It’s as if she’s gained some natural reverb and a more clear, lighter tone. Even her very high belts don’t sound quite as “heady” anymore. I think her voice now is the best it’s been since 2015!

I hope this continues! Her performance of “Une chance qu’on s’a” gives me hope. I’m so ready for 2021!

For some reason, you saying 2021 just makes me feel that the years are flying by...

June 19, 2020 at 01:49 PM

For some reason, you saying 2021 just makes me feel that the years are flying by...

Yeah! We’re getting older lol

June 19, 2020 at 02:02 PM

During the "A New Day" era, his voice was metallic, colorless and nasal, I think it was a bad time for his voice, his voice was annoying to me, it bothered me, even today I can't watch the DVD for long A New Day.

Then there was the TC Era, your singing style changed a little at the beginning of the tour, it became more open, more during the American leg it became a little nasal again, I don't know why it changes like this, will it be tired, stress? I do not know. I was reviewing the videos of Turne on his channel, and the voice is still nasal, they did a great job with editing images, more isolated the voice of Celine, it was very nasal, maybe if there was the noise of the audience it wouldn't sound bad.

In mid-2013 she started to improve, she did something, in 2016, 2017 her voice was very good, did she change her singing teacher? I do not know.

and now in 2019 and 2020 your voice is clear and with colors, this is less nasal, I like it, I hope it stays that way.

June 19, 2020 at 02:08 PM

During the "A New Day" era, his voice was metallic, colorless and nasal, I think it was a bad time for his voice, his voice was annoying to me, it bothered me, even today I can't watch the DVD for long A New Day.
Then there was the TC Era, your singing style changed a little at the beginning of the tour, it became more open, more during the American leg it became a little nasal again, I don't know why it changes like this, will it be tired, stress? I do not know. I was reviewing the videos of Turne on his channel, and the voice is still nasal, they did a great job with editing images, more isolated the voice of Celine, it was very nasal, maybe if there was the noise of the audience it wouldn't sound bad.
In mid-2013 she started to improve, she did something, in 2016, 2017 her voice was very good, did she change her singing teacher? I do not know.
and now in 2019 and 2020 your voice is clear and with colors, this is less nasal, I like it, I hope it stays that way.

Maybe it’s a style so she can still finish the tour by singing nasal. Let’s ask a vocal coach

June 19, 2020 at 03:21 PM

Do you guys think she can easily sing “Lying Down” in this era? I mean, listen to the “eeeeeeee” notes it’s like easy for her to sing it

June 19, 2020 at 04:40 PM

Do you guys think she can easily sing “Lying Down” in this era? I mean, listen to the “eeeeeeee” notes it’s like easy for her to sing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRMlUK23Js

I don’t think it would’ve been easier for her then than it is now.

June 19, 2020 at 10:37 PM

I think it would've been a great song for her voice in that era, or at least in that press marathon she had an amazing voice. I also think Lying Down would've fit the TC album.

June 19, 2020 at 11:27 PM

I was thinking with the Courage album/tour that her tone is more nasal than ever. Am I wrong? Something sounds different to me. Edited June 19, 2020 at 11:34 PM by Chantemoi

June 20, 2020 at 05:44 AM

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I was thinking with the Courage album/tour that her tone is more nasal than ever. Am I wrong? Something sounds different to me.

For me there are two types of nasal voice: the one that sounds froggy and the one that sounds clogged. In 2006-2010/2011 she sounded clogged whereas since 2017 she has sounded froggy. I don’t know how else to describe it. However, I could definitely hear an improvement from 2018 to 2019 (and even more so in 2020):

https://youtu.be/Z2VJKoF52C4

And this is what I mean by clogged sound:

https://youtu.be/LB17FU1zs_g

https://youtu.be/tT2gVblzFvY

Edited June 20, 2020 at 05:59 AM by Céline RO

June 20, 2020 at 07:12 AM

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For me there are two types of nasal voice: the one that sounds froggy and the one that sounds clogged. In 2006-2010/2011 she sounded clogged whereas since 2017 she has sounded froggy. I don’t know how else to describe it. However, I could definitely hear an improvement from 2018 to 2019 (and even more so in 2020):

https://youtu.be/Z2VJKoF52C4

And this is what I mean by clogged sound:

https://youtu.be/LB17FU1zs_g

https://youtu.be/tT2gVblzFvY

i prefer her A New Day PQTME (if you prefer to say it clogged) at least it sounded fuller (also sounded natural than the rest) and not thin like the froggy sound.

The All By Myself (Dubbed or Edited version on TCWT) is not clogged but sounded thin. Like it loses 1/4 of her voice in 2007.

I remember my mom said to me while watching A New Day dvd. She said that her voice sounds full. She’s right.

Edited June 20, 2020 at 07:20 AM by jpatdeleon09

June 20, 2020 at 07:16 AM

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I was thinking with the Courage album/tour that her tone is more nasal than ever. Am I wrong? Something sounds different to me.

I think you’re right! For me, nasal tone has a thinner vocals like her recent vocals. It’s not as full as before. That’s why i prefer her vocals in back in final years of A New Day...

her 2003-2005 vocals were so different compared to late 2006-early 2008. And it came back in early 2009 (her performance in Star Academy). I love it. Her voice sounds full again.

Then, 2011 came. I noticed also a big difference on her vocals. Yes! It sounded strong, loud, but again it loses (a little) the fuller sound of her voice that i like.

I think as she gets older her voice will keep on becoming thin and more nasal. I think for now, she should focus in removing the yodeling singing. I hope her vocal coach can help her with that.

i prefer the fuller sound than high thin notes like she’s doing now.

Edited June 20, 2020 at 07:27 AM by jpatdeleon09

June 20, 2020 at 07:28 AM

Btw, isn’t Shania older than Céline? I have noticed that her voice got thinner as well.

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