Celine Dion Voice Changes

[DjCeline]

well...i guess everyone has his or ger own opinion. some say that celine's voice sounds better...saome say it doesn't. the only thing i can say right now is that Celine know what she is doing. if she prefers to perform this way is because it's for the best. keep in mind that behind her are some professionals who help her.

if something was wrong with her voice i don't think she would continue singing just because she has a contract...

so...i like her voice back in the 90's, i like her voice now...her voice did change...but in fact...she is the same Celine that we like no matter how her voice sounds...at least this is how i see it

[krazy_kool_dude]

i think it's crazy to judge Celine's voice right now! i mean there's a lot of strain performing using her voice night after night after night (etc). I think we should just wait until the end of AND and she comes back with a new album and starts to promote that before we question her vocals.

[firebird]

i think it's crazy to  judge Celine's voice  right now!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why is it crazy? She is a singer, she doesnt write her songs or produces them, so we can only judge her voice. I dont think it's crazy, because it's her work, to sing, and that's what people pay for when they go to Vegas : hear her sing, not to see her new designer dresses or what haircut she has at the moment.

[krazy_kool_dude]

i think it's crazy to  judge Celine's voice  right now!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why is it crazy? She is a singer, she doesnt write her songs or produces them, so we can only judge her voice. I dont think it's crazy, because it's her work, to sing, and that's what people pay for when they go to Vegas : hear her sing, not to see her new designer dresses or what haircut she has at the moment.

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crazy cos we don't know the exact state her vocals are in without performing so much, i mean when she performed Dance With My Father her vocals were CRYSTAL clear but now she's gone back to the nasle.

[divaceline]

i do think las vegas has taken its toll on her voice. it's the primary reason why i think she should stop the vegas gig. (plus, i want to her on the road again ... touring and actively promoting her records.) nevertheless, i think celine has always been very professional when it comes to her voice ... more so than some other "singers." she takes care of her voice.

 

mariah is the perfect example of someone who doesn't take care of her voice .. don't take that the wrong way -- i love mariah -- i have a million of her cds (and actually started collecting her cds before celine). But listening to her voice now just doesn't do it for me. that earthiness on songs like "vanishing" and "if it's over" is gone ...

 

but the greatest thing about celine is that she knows how to use her voice and she can color it in all kinds of styles ... from the bombastic belts of "fyi" and "ltal" to the subtle textures of "1f4q" to the bluesy "le ballet" ... she can do it. no questions asked. she may be a little more nasal these days, but that's okay. (as long as she doesn't start singing like mariah in that whispery tone.)

 

nevertheless, i think (I HOPE!) she knows she's due for a bit of a reinvention ... songs like "i'm alive" and "i drove all night" won't work anymore considering her vocal condition ... she should consider changing it up a bit ... making an english version of "1f4q" would be the best at this point ... or something jazzy ... i love the belts (trust me), but i think that would be expecting too much at this point ... (christina subs in nicely for that void) ...

 

bottom line: celine is still the greatest DIVA ever! as long as she doesn't do hardcore rap, i'm happy. wee!!

[MTJ]

I feel that her voice (whether or not for better or for worse) has changed to a noticable degree whether from 1982 to 1996 or now. I think part of what we see is a difference in song style between then and now (the ninties and now). Back then she did a lot more stylistic things--with different tones and movements through her ranges. Now with Miracle we see a lot more soft whisper-esqe tones and we hear her go higher. Her daily excersizes, I think, are the main reason for this change. Her vocal chords are a lot stronger and more capable now, but her diaphram is also stronger. The strenth behind any noise she makes is her diaphram and it only makes sence that this new power she's had over her voice since ANDHC can only because of the caution she takes over it. When she started around 1992 did the doctor not say it would take about 10 years to fully notice the difference? I know her voice has a lot more strength now than it used to--whether or not it sounds better--I'm indifferent. (but I did see her live two days after the HEART benifit and her voice was so much better than it's ever been on a CD or live recording)

[jpatdeleon09]

Wow! this topic exists!

[angelil78]

Wow! this topic exists!

 

I think you just opened a can of worms

 

[CelineIloilo]

JPATDELEON you're really funny. This has not been an active topic for more than a decade silly goose!! But Celine's voice for whatever reason is still great no matter the cahnges. She just needs rest that's all. And I believe in that 100%

[neocshs]

At the moment Céline needs quite a miracle! She's been facing - more than ever - pitch problems, many flat notes, weak head voice, unstable and heavily strained upper belts, loss of control over the volume and the support... The only good things which have come up after her return in 2015 are the crazy "belts" in purple rain and the humming in MHWGO.. Other than that, everything is pretty much quite worse than 2012-2013, which I think they had been great, vocally-wise.

[TiagoFragoso05]

She really needs to rest for a while her voice in my opinion, so many concerts!! And more coming.. More than 2 weeks off at least I guess

 

 

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[Celinefan1993]

As a singer myself, there are two things I notice. 1. She needs a lot of rest for 2/3 weeks. 2. She needs a vocal coach who really knows where she needs to work on: Clear diction, open throat, using diaphragm, lower the larynx again, full focus on mask resonance. Practically back to basic haha. The things that I hear too much when she sings is that she closes her throat too much while she sings. Even on the calming parts. What I've read on the Immortality performance at The Bee Gees salute, is that a lot of people, who aren't die hard fans like us, didn't hear what she actually sang. Par example: Listen to the first phrase: So, this is who I am... and listen to the performance back in 1997/1998 where she was a special guest. The clarity and open throats there are good. She closes now too much. Listen to how she opens the phrase of ABM: Aaahhwwl by my sehieeuuuhwlf. That needs to be opened and clear! I don't know why she taught herself to sing that way! And I can not imagine that a singing teacher would advise somebody to sing in a certain way.

 

I feel like she sings too forced. The reason why she can belt this high nowadays is because she is using a lot of heady mix, while her chest voice gets weaker day by day. She needs to rediscover her range in a certain way and take priority with taking good care for her chest voice. In my opinion, her peak of voice was in 2002. Her resonance was crazy, tone was clear, it was a new Céline. She looked stunning, her energy was great. When she did Vegas, she got back nasal (it's a way to protect your voice, I do admit that and it's her signature sound for a bit). But I'm really a bit concerned about her chest voice. The belts from mid 4th octave till mid 5th octave were always her best points. Now she is struggling with those starting from A4, which is even only a middle note for tenors. In TCWT she also got some crazy belts and power! Loved that period as well.

 

And now I will prepare myself for some heavy discussions that there are coming here... haha. The can of worms have been opened!!! Actually I'm also curious what other professional singers think about this or what they hear. Maybe some singing teachers who agree with me or have other opinions? This doesn't have to be a 'bad' or 'negative' topic. A forum is also to share thoughts without being rude or spread hate to each other, right?

[angelil78]

As a singer myself, there are two things I notice. 1. She needs a lot of rest for 2/3 weeks. 2. She needs a vocal coach who really knows where she needs to work on: Clear diction, open throat, using diaphragm, lower the larynx again, full focus on mask resonance. Practically back to basic haha. The things that I hear too much when she sings is that she closes her throat too much while she sings. Even on the calming parts. What I've read on the Immortality performance at The Bee Gees salute, is that a lot of people, who aren't die hard fans like us, didn't hear what she actually sang. Par example: Listen to the first phrase: So, this is who I am... and listen to the performance back in 1997/1998 where she was a special guest. The clarity and open throats there are good. She closes now too much. Listen to how she opens the phrase of ABM: Aaahhwwl by my sehieeuuuhwlf. That needs to be opened and clear! I don't know why she taught herself to sing that way! And I can not imagine that a singing teacher would advise somebody to sing in a certain way.

 

I feel like she sings too forced. The reason why she can belt this high nowadays is because she is using a lot of heady mix, while her chest voice gets weaker day by day. She needs to rediscover her range in a certain way and take priority with taking good care for her chest voice. In my opinion, her peak of voice was in 2002. Her resonance was crazy, tone was clear, it was a new Céline. She looked stunning, her energy was great. When she did Vegas, she got back nasal (it's a way to protect your voice, I do admit that and it's her signature sound for a bit). But I'm really a bit concerned about her chest voice. The belts from mid 4th octave till mid 5th octave were always her best points. Now she is struggling with those starting from A4, which is even only a middle note for tenors. In TCWT she also got some crazy belts and power! Loved that period as well.

 

And now I will prepare myself for some heavy discussions that there are coming here... haha. The can of worms have been opened!!! Actually I'm also curious what other professional singers think about this or what they hear. Maybe some singing teachers who agree with me or have other opinions? This doesn't have to be a 'bad' or 'negative' topic. A forum is also to share thoughts without being rude or spread hate to each other, right?

 

I normally don't like conversations about her voice but your message wasn't too negative like some peoples are (not everybody and not naming anyone).

 

For my part, I'm glad that I don't hear the things many of you are hearing. Maybe that's why I don't like these conversations. I really enjoy her singing, no matter how she sings it. Maybe I'm tone deaf Except I'm not a huge fan of her bedroom voice. I enjoy it but wouldn't miss it if she would never use it again.

 

And I agree with you 100% we can share thoughts without being rude and say that someone is stupid or an idiot for saying something you don't agree with.. except if your opinion is stupid.. j/k

[Celinefan1993]

 

 

I normally don't like conversations about her voice but your message wasn't too negative like some peoples are (not everybody and not naming anyone).

 

For my part, I'm glad that I don't hear the things many of you are hearing. Maybe that's why I don't like these conversations. I really enjoy her singing, no matter how she sings it. Maybe I'm tone deaf Except I'm not a huge fan of her bedroom voice. I enjoy it but wouldn't miss it if she would never use it again.

 

And I agree with you 100% we can share thoughts without being rude and say that someone is stupid or an idiot for saying something you don't agree with.. except if your opinion is stupid.. j/k

 

Loved your comment. Thanks for understanding. And yes, if you sing, then you listen differently to a voice then if you're 'just' a listener. Of course I enjoy her singing. That's why I am going to a lot of concerts upcoming summer.

 

About the fact that there's a lot of debate about her voice is that it changes and everybody has another perception on hearing/looking. At least we still may be happy that she does sing and tour :-)

 

Although I'm curious about other people their thoughts about it. You can always learn something.

[Javito]

As a singer myself, there are two things I notice. 1. She needs a lot of rest for 2/3 weeks. 2. She needs a vocal coach who really knows where she needs to work on: Clear diction, open throat, using diaphragm, lower the larynx again, full focus on mask resonance. Practically back to basic haha. The things that I hear too much when she sings is that she closes her throat too much while she sings. Even on the calming parts. What I've read on the Immortality performance at The Bee Gees salute, is that a lot of people, who aren't die hard fans like us, didn't hear what she actually sang. Par example: Listen to the first phrase: So, this is who I am... and listen to the performance back in 1997/1998 where she was a special guest. The clarity and open throats there are good. She closes now too much. Listen to how she opens the phrase of ABM: Aaahhwwl by my sehieeuuuhwlf. That needs to be opened and clear! I don't know why she taught herself to sing that way! And I can not imagine that a singing teacher would advise somebody to sing in a certain way.

 

I feel like she sings too forced. The reason why she can belt this high nowadays is because she is using a lot of heady mix, while her chest voice gets weaker day by day. She needs to rediscover her range in a certain way and take priority with taking good care for her chest voice. In my opinion, her peak of voice was in 2002. Her resonance was crazy, tone was clear, it was a new Céline. She looked stunning, her energy was great. When she did Vegas, she got back nasal (it's a way to protect your voice, I do admit that and it's her signature sound for a bit). But I'm really a bit concerned about her chest voice. The belts from mid 4th octave till mid 5th octave were always her best points. Now she is struggling with those starting from A4, which is even only a middle note for tenors. In TCWT she also got some crazy belts and power! Loved that period as well.

 

And now I will prepare myself for some heavy discussions that there are coming here... haha. The can of worms have been opened!!! Actually I'm also curious what other professional singers think about this or what they hear. Maybe some singing teachers who agree with me or have other opinions? This doesn't have to be a 'bad' or 'negative' topic. A forum is also to share thoughts without being rude or spread hate to each other, right?

 

I'm not a singer nor I'm a professional about vocal training so my opinion here is very limited, but I know the difference between her voice 10 years ago and today, and I can definitely notice it has changed a lot. And not for the better, unfortunately.

 

Her voice has changed dramatically within 5 years, the deep tone it has acquired. It can be noticed in every bootleg show we have these days. The adlibs she does in several songs where she belts high notes prove that she still has a voice, but that doesn't mean she's singing, at least not singing in a "good" way, as she used to do.

 

I too noticed some things in the Immortality performance, that were odd. First of all, that she doesn't hold the long notes in the song, but she does in Vegas normally. Why that? Is it because in Vegas she uses playback for the long final note of "we don't say goodbyyyeeeeeeee-eeeeeeeee" and in the Bee-Gees tribute she had to do the whole thing live?

 

I'm concerned about the abuse to which her voice is subjet to, due to the incessant amount of performances and shows she still gives per year. I'm concerned about the same repetitive setlists of songs she performs, which inevitably forces her to sing each song in unimaginable variations so as not to be bored while performing the song. And I'm concerned about the excessive use of playback (and that was something I never cared about).

 

I hope that whatever the future holds with her live career, and respecting that performing live is what she loves to do the most, I also hope that she knows how to keep and preserve her voice to record more albums in the future, with the same quality as always

 

In my opinion, her peak of voice was in 2002. Her resonance was crazy, tone was clear, it was a new Céline. She looked stunning, her energy was great.

 

That's another reason why I loved that year, and without being an expert, I just knew her voice in 2002 was at her best. Powerful, clean and solid It's never been the same again since then.

 

Coming from a professional singer, I have to thank you for writing your post about this

Edited April 28, 2017 at 04:00 PM by Javito

[Celinefan1993]

Her voice has changed dramatically within 5 years, the deep tone it has acquired. It can be noticed in every bootleg show we have these days. The adlibs she does in several songs where she belts high notes prove that she still has a voice, but that doesn't mean she's singing, at least not singing in a "good" way, as she used to do.

 

I too noticed some things in the Immortality performance, that were odd. First of all, that she doesn't hold the long notes in the song, but she does in Vegas normally. Why that? Is it because in Vegas she uses playback for the long final note of "we don't say goodbyyyeeeeeeee-eeeeeeeee" and in the Bee-Gees tribute she had to do the whole thing live?

 

I'm concerned about the abuse to which her voice is subjet to, due to the incessant amount of performances and shows she still gives per year. I'm concerned about the same repetitive setlists of songs she performs, which inevitably forces her to sing each song in unimaginable variations so as not to be bored while performing the song. And I'm concerned about the excessive use of playback (and that was something I never cared about).

 

I hope that whatever the future holds with her live career, and respecting that performing live is what she loves to do the most, I also hope that she knows how to keep and preserve her voice to record more albums in the future, with the same quality as always

 

Coming from a professional singer, I have to thank you for writing your post about this

 

For a non-professional, you have a good pair of ears. Yes, she still has a voice which can be worked with. It still is Céline Dion. She still has a deep tone though or gone deeper. If you're talking about her distinctive tone, then yes, that is already gone since she started Vegas in 2011. If you listen to Recovering, she has a warm sound in that. Her voice became deeper, which is absolutely normal. But, since she is a soprano, her prime vocals are gone. It's totally normal. The peak of a soprano voice is, following the vocal studies that I read, from their 35 till 40/42 (So, period of TCWT at most). Mezzo's have them from their 38 till 45. But, mezzo voices (like Barbara Streisand, Shirley Bassey) will get a lot warmer, although their ranges will decline. This is also for Céline. Soprano voices will decline, especially for Céline (and Mariah) who sung at the top of their league for almost 30/35 years by now and have a light timbre. That's why I said that she needs to work with her current range by now and especially train her voice again for a bit in a good way. I really wonder what her vocal coach is doing with her, beside her warm-ups. Technically it's the base that's missing. She won't get her 90's or '02 voice back but the chops are still in it. She can go high and that's good. But, most of her songs are in the middle part of the 4th and 5th octave. And that's where she has most troubles now.

 

About the performances, she already came from 250 shows a year to maximum 110 now so, that's already 140 shows less. But, yeah, I'm also concerned about the amount of prerecordings she uses at this moment. I hope she will take a good rest for her Europe tour and doesn't disappoint. The French shows last year were tough. 2 hours without clothing changes and almost no time for drinks so, she can do it. Only the English songs were lipped. That's a pity! I don't understand why she does that so much in her Anglophone music. It makes me curious about this upcoming tour what she's going to do though... I can not remember a single moment where she used a pre recorded track for a French song... Let's see what she will do this summer! Would be to sad to spend €600 to hear only a few songs live...

 

Which shows are you doing, Javito?

 

Kind regards! X

Edited April 28, 2017 at 06:52 PM by Celinefan1993

[Javito]

For a non-professional, you have a good pair of ears. Yes, she still has a voice which can be worked with. It still is Céline Dion. She still has a deep tone though or gone deeper. If you're talking about her distinctive tone, then yes, that is already gone since she started Vegas in 2011. If you listen to Recovering, she has a warm sound in that. Her voice became deeper, which is absolutely normal. But, since she is a soprano, her prime vocals are gone. It's totally normal. The peak of a soprano voice is, following the vocal studies that I read, from their 35 till 40/42 (So, period of TCWT at most). Mezzo's have them from their 38 till 45. But, mezzo voices (like Barbara Streisand, Shirley Bassey) will get a lot warmer, although their ranges will decline. This is also for Céline. Soprano voices will decline, especially for Céline (and Mariah) who sung at the top of their league for almost 30/35 years by now and have a light timbre. That's why I said that she needs to work with her current range by now and especially train her voice again for a bit in a good way. I really wonder what her vocal coach is doing with her, beside her warm-ups. Technically it's the base that's missing. She won't get her 90's or '02 voice back but the chops are still in it. She can go high and that's good. But, most of her songs are in the middle part of the 4th and 5th octave. And that's where she has most troubles now.

 

About the performances, she already came from 250 shows a year to maximum 110 now so, that's already 140 shows less. But, yeah, I'm also concerned about the amount of prerecordings she uses at this moment. I hope she will take a good rest for her Europe tour and doesn't disappoint. The French shows last year were tough. 2 hours without clothing changes and almost no time for drinks so, she can do it. Only the English songs were lipped. That's a pity! I don't understand why she does that so much in her Anglophone music. It makes me curious about this upcoming tour what she's going to do though... I can not remember a single moment where she used a pre recorded track for a French song... Let's see what she will do this summer! Would be to sad to spend €600 to hear only a few songs live...

 

Which shows are you doing, Javito?

 

Kind regards! X

 

Again, that's some very interesting info about singing and training! Thanks, it's very enlightening even for non-professionals and fans like me to have a rough sketch to know what we're talking about

 

We all know Céline has been the most disciplined "athlete" of pop music out there for decades, and only that it's something to praise about for the rest of her career. But it would be such a shame that she spoiled all those years of hard work today if she doesn't keep a little of that precious training years for her future days.

 

I mean to say, what concerns me about her now is that she doesn't care that much anymore about her voice and the quality performances she was used to deliver so easily, not so long ago. And that when once she was concerned about not giving her best with a performance, now she doesn't care if she has delivered just a so-so performance of a song (either because her voice has lost flexibility that day, or because she's simply tired of singing it -which is actually happening too).

 

Yes, I know we the die-hard fans, who are used to scrutinise every performance from every show, are much more prone to critizise the changes in her voice, and that the casual fan or the general public that attends one of her shows (either in Vegas or while touring), this public will still be amazed like crazy about her voice and her vocal wonders. But I doubt she can still do it much more time without this general public noticing that something different is going on with her voice. Not bad, but neither good.

 

On other terms, I can accept that her voice changes with age, and it's changing all the time, but when she modifies those songs and introduces those nosense adlibs, or resorts to playback with songs that were easily sung live not long ago, that's what concerns me.

 

If the problem is because she's tired of performing the same old songs, or feels bored, that has a solution an can be easily solved (just change the damn song setlist regularly!). If it's because her voice is changing and keeps changing without training from her part, that will require some more work to solve the problem, and here's where I think Céline doesn't care as much as before anymore

 

Pd: I'm attending the London shows in June!

Edited April 29, 2017 at 09:00 AM by Javito

[jpatdeleon09]

"2. She needs a vocal coach who really knows where she needs to work on..."

 

I remember they change Céline's vocal coach. Maybe bring back the old one?

 

This is her new Vocal Coach since 2015

 

http://forevercd.altervista.org/313-2/

Edited April 29, 2017 at 11:00 AM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

her old vocal coach? Greg Enriquez?

 

https://www.gregenri...com/career-bio/

Edited April 29, 2017 at 11:05 AM by jpatdeleon09

[Dancing_Queen]

I'm sure I'm expressing an extreme fringe opinion here, but I actually prefer Céline's voice now over her voice during any part of the '00's.

I don't listen to every clip of every Vegas show, but I'm speaking about the tour last year, her ADISQ-performance (which is one of the best performances she has EVER done imo) and her recent take on Immortality.

I've never felt her as much as I do now.

I've been a fan on and off ever since 1997, but I frankly hadn't paid much attention to Céline since Une fille & 4 types.

You know what brought me "back into the fold", so to speak? Her AMA-performances in '15! Probably the most imperfect I've ever heard of her. But what she lost in power and vocal agility, she made up in emotion. She was so powerful and fragile at the same time :wub:

Made me want to simultaneously worship and hug her. Which is basically how I feel about Céline all the time now

Edited April 29, 2017 at 12:36 PM by Dancing_Queen

[jpatdeleon09]

Her voice changed started in 2015 when Rene was sick again and in 2016, it changed tremendously after the death of her husband (her comeback Feb 2016). I don't know if you noticed that...

[DionFanAlways]

I'm sure I'm expressing an extreme fringe opinion here, but I actually prefer Céline's voice now over her voice during any part of the '00's.

I don't listen to every clip of every Vegas show, but I'm speaking about the tour last year, her ADISQ-performance (which is one of the best performances she has EVER done imo) and her recent take on Immortality.

I've never felt her as much as I do now.

I've been a fan on and off ever since 1997, but I frankly hadn't paid much attention to Céline since Une fille & 4 types.

You know what brought me "back into the fold", so to speak? Her AMA-performances in '15! Probably the most imperfect I've ever heard of her. But what she lost in power and vocal agility, she made up in emotion. She was so powerful and fragile at the same time :wub:

Made me want to simultaneously worship and hug her. Which is basically how I feel about Céline all the time now

Yes! I feel exactly the same way. I love the depth of her voice now. However when she goes too "dry, grainy, raspy, edgy" or whatever she is calling it it does get a bit unnerving.

[nuts2you]

starting to like this topic now,

[manu23]

Her voice changed started in 2015 when Rene was sick again and in 2016, it changed tremendously after the death of her husband (her comeback Feb 2016). I don't know if you noticed that...

 

I think the same, I've noticed that during Rene's illness and after his death Celine's voice has suffered a lot. When she came back to Vegas with the second show she was on top form, so if the first five years of A New Day + Taking Chances Tour right after did't affect her voice that much I don't think the current with half shows has, I think is more the stress and lost of Rene. But yeah we'll all be a bit better without Vegas for a couple of years.

Edited April 29, 2017 at 02:55 PM by manu23

[scielle]

I'm sure I'm expressing an extreme fringe opinion here, but I actually prefer Céline's voice now over her voice during any part of the '00's.

I don't listen to every clip of every Vegas show, but I'm speaking about the tour last year, her ADISQ-performance (which is one of the best performances she has EVER done imo) and her recent take on Immortality.

I've never felt her as much as I do now.

I've been a fan on and off ever since 1997, but I frankly hadn't paid much attention to Céline since Une fille & 4 types.

You know what brought me "back into the fold", so to speak? Her AMA-performances in '15! Probably the most imperfect I've ever heard of her. But what she lost in power and vocal agility, she made up in emotion. She was so powerful and fragile at the same time :wub:

Made me want to simultaneously worship and hug her. Which is basically how I feel about Céline all the time now

 

Not a fringe opinion at all. I'm totally with you on this.

 

And yes, also feel the ADISQ performance was epic, as was L'hymne a l'amour at the AMAs. I much prefer current Celine to '90s Celine, however vocally perfect she may have been then.

 

And what brought me back into the fold - after ~15 years away - was some clips of Ne me quitte pas and Mr Paganini on YT back in 2015. Suddenly I saw her as someone with artistic weight, rather than a vocal acrobat behind banal pop ditties.

[isurrender]

I don't why some here still focus on LV performances to judge Celine's state of voice.

 

It's been 15 years she doesn't care about how she sounds there 😁

 

During 'A new day" , most of her appearances outside the show had nothing to do with what she does in LV (miracle promo, on ne change pas promo, taking Chances album and recording sessions etc...).

 

The worldwide tour had left her with an exhausted voice but her comeback in 2011 was very good even in LV.

 

 

But when it comes to voices... well I don't trust anybody to know what's good or not lol I think it's just impossible we hear so different things for a same performance. Even singing teachers they have different techniques... remember the singing teacher from the Star Academy ( the one in 2003 )? she used to teach how to sing nasaly...

 

At the end it all depends on our tastes I think.

 

Here most of people don't like her "raspy voice"... but it doesn't mean she sings badly for example. What about all those singers with a natural raspy voice then?

 

However I think the state of her current voice is the weakest we have ever known. I really don't know how she is gonna sound for her european tour. That's very worrisome actually. She had recovered for last year's French tour but after that... OMG! ( I think Immortality was great though but that's not the hardest song to sing , is it?... and even that some time ago she totally skipped the "note" in Vegas... ).

 

Now beside some head voice notes in PP, her Vegas show is full of playback and she doesn't sing a note higher than another one it seems for the live songs.

Edited April 29, 2017 at 07:04 PM by isurrender

[angelil78]

I don't why some here still focus on LV performances to judge Celine's state of voice.

 

It's been 15 years she doesn't care about how she sounds there

 

During 'A new day" , most of her appearances outside the show had nothing to do with what she does in LV (miracle promo, on ne change pas promo, taking Chances album and recording sessions etc...).

 

The worldwide tour had left her with an exhausted voice but her comeback in 2011 was very good even in LV.

 

 

But when it comes to voices... well I don't trust anybody to know what's good or not lol I think it's just impossible we hear so different things for a same performance. Even singing teachers they have different techniques... remember the singing teacher from the Star Academy ( the one in 2003 )? she used to teach how to sing nasaly...

 

At the end it all depends on our tastes I think.

 

Here most of people don't like her "raspy voice"... but it doesn't mean she sings badly for example. What about all those singers with a natural raspy voice then?

 

However I think the state of her current voice is the weakest we have ever known. I really don't know how she is gonna sound for her european tour. That's very worrisome actually. She had recovered for last year's French tour but after that... OMG! ( I think Immortality was great though but that's not the hardest song to sing , is it?... and even that some time ago she totally skipped the "note" in Vegas... ).

 

Now beside some head voice notes in PP, her Vegas show is full of playback and she doesn't sing a note higher than another one it seems for the live songs.

 

 

She's gonna sound great on her European tour. I for one can't wait to see her on stage

 

She doesn't sound bad. Is her voice different yes, but bad? no

[CelineDionFreak]

I don't think her voice has gotten neccisarily bad . I think she's just gotten older and as she does, it naturally deepens. I like to think the reason she doesn't do the very high runs anymore (well not a lot) is that she doesn't want to strain her voice. If she's doing as many shows as she does, and really wrecks something with her voice, it could wipe her out for a while. I still think the technique is there though, if she didn't do some sort of a routine, would she be around now? I just think she's making wise choices.

[vincentbonvegna]

I'm sure I'm expressing an extreme fringe opinion here, but I actually prefer Céline's voice now over her voice during any part of the '00's.

I don't listen to every clip of every Vegas show, but I'm speaking about the tour last year, her ADISQ-performance (which is one of the best performances she has EVER done imo) and her recent take on Immortality.

I've never felt her as much as I do now.

I've been a fan on and off ever since 1997, but I frankly hadn't paid much attention to Céline since Une fille & 4 types.

You know what brought me "back into the fold", so to speak? Her AMA-performances in '15! Probably the most imperfect I've ever heard of her. But what she lost in power and vocal agility, she made up in emotion. She was so powerful and fragile at the same time :wub:

Made me want to simultaneously worship and hug her. Which is basically how I feel about Céline all the time now

 

Thank you so much !

I'm so with you. I never get the thing with applause when Céline hits a high note on stage, that's just an high note, not specifically emotion. Last summer listen to Céline live was incredible. I don't care about raspy voice because she sings with so much more emotions nowadays.

When I saw her in Paris singing PQTME, and she let the audience the audience sing instead of her... she was about to cry every time, and that was so much better than hearing her singing the high note, and same thing with MHWGO.

And what about RDMH she has so much more energy now, just listen to the performance of 27th august 2016 in Quebec, she was amazing.

 

Now even if she does not do the long high note at the end of immortality , I'm so happy to have this new version of the song, with her actual voice. I never listen to BYLM album version, but I can't stop listening to the 2016 version in NYC, I love it

L'amour existe encore is so powerful and fragile now... and that's so nice because that's what the lyrics talk about.

And what about the ADISQ performance with Avec Le Temps ? OMG !

 

She has done a great job IMO, maybe sometimes she needs to admit that she can't do certain things as she could before, but now she can sing deeper, lower, sound fragile. That's a new Céline and I love her like that

 

 

They have Queen B. We have Goddess C.

Edited April 30, 2017 at 10:15 AM by vincentbonvegna

[DionFanAlways]

Thank you so much !

I'm so with you. I never get the thing with applause when Céline hits a high note on stage, that's just an high note, not specifically emotion. Last summer listen to Céline live was incredible. I don't care about raspy voice because she sings with so much more emotions nowadays.

When I saw her in Paris singing PQTME, and she let the audience the audience sing instead of her... she was about to cry every time, and that was so much better than hearing her singing the high note, and same thing with MHWGO.

And what about RDMH she has so much more energy now, just listen to the performance of 27th august 2016 in Quebec, she was amazing.

 

Now even if she does not do the long high note at the end of immortality , I'm so happy to have this new version of the song, with her actual voice. I never listen to BYLM album version, but I can't stop listening to the 2016 version in NYC, I love it �

L'amour existe encore is so powerful and fragile now... and that's so nice because that's what the lyrics talk about.

And what about the ADISQ performance with Avec Le Temps ? OMG !

 

She has done a great job IMO, maybe sometimes she needs to admit that she can't do certain things as she could before, but now she can sing deeper, lower, sound fragile. That's a new Céline and I love her like that

 

 

They have Queen B. We have Goddess C.

Thank you. Exactly how I feel!

I also agree with you about her admitting to not being able to do the vocal acrobatics. I do think that would be hard for her to admit though because that is part of her "image" you know, her being able to belt out/sing anything, any note and sustain it forever. *cough* ABM note *cough*

Edited April 30, 2017 at 02:08 PM by DionFanAlways