Céline Dion and the Paris 2024 Summer Olympic Games

[LukeD]

The greatest hint we have that she WILL do the Olympics comes from her answer when asked whether she'd perform. She did not say no, which would have been the sensible, simple answer to give if this was not in her plans. She chose to deflect, instead. And what could be a reason to deflect? Obviously, not wanting the attention to be drawn to this upcoming event during another important event - the release of her documentary. This is not the time to state she is ready to be back to stage, this is the time to show us what she has been through and therefore explain her absence. It is all strategic, in my opinion. July will be eventful.

[Nmj]

The greatest hint we have that she WILL do the Olympics comes from her answer when asked whether she'd perform. She did not say no, which would have been the sensible, simple answer to give if this was not in her plans. She chose to deflect, instead. And what could be a reason to deflect? Obviously, not wanting the attention to be drawn to this upcoming event during another important event - the release of her documentary. This is not the time to state she is ready to be back to stage, this is the time to show us what she has been through and therefore explain her absence. It is all strategic, in my opinion. July will be eventful.

 

The initial look she gave the reporter… was almost like “how the hell do you know?” I think, it caught her off guard. The again it was errrily similar to the look she gave the fan that asked her about PMLALS long ago when she was signing autographs

Edited June 19, 2024 at 09:02 PM by Nmj

[celinexvocals]

 

 

The initial look she gave the reporter… was almost like “how the hell do you know?” I think, it caught her off guard. The again it was errrily similar to the look she gave the fan that asked her about PMLALS long ago when she was signing autographs

 

 

Well then let’s hope it doesn’t end like PMLALS

[Critiaslux]

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My first show 🥰😍

It was magical.

 

I love listening to the record, especially SISDA where Jean-Jacques Goldman introduced the song. So moving.

[MaiconSC]

Well then let's hope it doesn't end like PMLALS

Well then let's hope it doesn't end like PMLALS

 

she will sing PMLALS at the Olimpics Openning...

[GoldenLeaf]

 

 

Well, I got access to the article and -

 

“Elle pourrait interpréter « L’hymne à l’amour » d’Édith Piaf

 

C’est une piste tout à fait sérieuse. La star québécoise de 56 ans pourrait même interpréter « L’Hymne à l’amour ». Une demande officielle d’utilisation de la chanson d’Édith Piaf a été faite par le Cojo, sans donner le nom de l’artiste qui la reprendrait. Les ayants droit d’Édith Piaf ont également donné leur accord pour l’utilisation gracieuse de « La Vie en rose », qui pourrait être reprise par Aya Nakamura.”

 

Hard to reconcile that with the woman we saw in the doc but I never count Céline out.

 

Same article also talks about Vegas in 2025 and Paris 2026 (Paris La Defense Arena), which we had discussed in the Residency thread.

 

The case continues…

Edith Piaf' songs suck, I hope Celine is not going to cover one of her old-fashioned songs.

 

Celine has already covered La Vie En Rose in 1993 and L'Hymne À L'amour in 2015, that's enough.

Edited June 21, 2024 at 12:21 AM by GoldenLeaf

[Chantemoi]

 

Edith Piaf' songs suck, I hope Celine is not going to cover one of her old-fashioned songs.

 

Celine has already covered La Vie En Rose in 1993 and L'Hymne À L'amour in 2015, that's enough.

 

“Old fashioned songs”… interesting choice of words to see thrown around as an insult on the fan forum of a singer who peaked in the 1990s LOL. Her music is just as relevant as Céline’s, and I’d say her repertoire might be better known than Céline’s French catalogue.

 

While you may not appreciate Édith Piaf, there are millions of people who do. I would love to hear her sing either of those songs, again and again. Especially « Hymne à l’amour » which we can all agree was not her best vocal of 2015. To see her sing it (in playback) at the Olympics would be iconic.

[GoldenLeaf]

Piaf peaked in the 1950's, to me that's way more old-fashioned than a singer who peaked in the late 1990's. The thing is, Celine has an amazing repertoire in both French and English that deserves to shine at the Olympics, that's why she better perform one her own songs or even a brand new one instead of covering someone else signature song. Edited June 21, 2024 at 01:04 AM by GoldenLeaf

[mebe]

Piaf peaked in the 1950's, to me that's way more old-fashioned than a singer who peaked in the late 1990's. The thing is, Celine has an amazing repertoire in both French and English, she'd be better singing one her own songs or even a brand new one instead of covering someone else signature song.

I agree that she should sing one of her songs and benefit from this worldwide exposure and the streams that would come with it!

 

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[scielle]

Edith Piaf' songs suck, I hope Celine is not going to cover one of her old-fashioned songs.

 

Oh go wash out your mouth with soap right now 😦

 

Those songs are beautiful and timeless. Classic repertoire that everyone knows, and for good reason. Certainly more so than Celine’s French repertoire. I certainly knew them as a child, long before I spoke any French or English, just like I knew the Beatles.

I’d love to see Celine sing more of them.

 

Piaf peaked in the 1950's, to me that's way more old-fashioned than a singer who peaked in the late 1990's.

 

Yes, and? “Old-fashioned” is a problem, somehow?

 

 

Edited June 21, 2024 at 03:51 AM by scielle

[GoldenLeaf]

Certainly more so than Celine's French repertoire.

That's exactly why if Celine performs one of her own songs, especially from her French rerpertoire, it would benefit from a massive worldwide exposure and thus making it more known around the world.

 

Yes, and? “Old-fashioned” is a problem, somehow?

Not a problem per se, just my personal opinion and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person in the universe who dislike Piaf' songs and think they're old fashioned. To be quite honest I had no idea who Edith Piaf was until around 2006 when I discovered on YouTube Celine's performance of La Vie En Rose and I was 17 years old at the time.

Edited June 21, 2024 at 04:44 AM by GoldenLeaf

[GoldenLeaf]

I agree that she should sing one of her songs and benefit from this worldwide exposure and the streams that would come with it!

 

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Well said, that would be totally iconic.

[Céline RO]

Guys, if she does this, she should sing “Je chanterai”!

[Ajax]

IF she's at the Olympic ceremony and sings PIAF that would be nice. But honestly I would feel frustrated. You have to be French and experienced it by yourself to understand how Celine's repertoire has impacted our popular culture in recent years at a point where it transcends generations. We know the history of d'Eux, Pour que tu m'aimes encore etc in term of records and numbers... But (in my opinion), since Xavier Dolan validated her in Mommy (but I'm sure it would have come anyway), the shift it had on her image and repertoire is quite crazy. Go in a Bar in France when suddenly they pass J'irai ou tu iras, Priere Paienne or Pour que tu m'aimes encore and see what happens. It's quite powerful.

 

So, I don't see any other better occasion than to sing one of those song, it would be just insane. And a miss if she just sing PIAF. The frenzy would be epic and I would not understand if they don't do it.

[Critiaslux]

Actually doing both would be good too 😝

À medley of her own song and of Piaf, that could not be more French (to the exception of a Johnny Holliday song of course 😅)

[PuraVida]

Which Piaf song should she sing? I'm not particularly fond of the idea of her singing the ones she's already done...but of course a venue like the Olympics, they want you to sing the biggest hits...

 

Maybe she can sing Super Woman

Edited June 22, 2024 at 06:04 AM by PuraVida

[scielle]

Two French podcasts here, from RTL:

 

One is an interview around the doc and recent events. I don’t know how reliable the interviewee is, but she says Céline was supposed to be at the Met Gala but had to cancel last minute because she had a crisis. She says that while Céline would love to be at the Olympics, it’s not up to her, her body will decide. (Which is an obvious conclusion so not news per se, but thought the Met Gala comment was notable… if true, of course).

 

Edited June 22, 2024 at 01:09 PM by scielle

[Nmj]

Two French podcasts here, from RTL:

 

One is an interview around the doc and recent events. I don’t know how reliable the interviewee is, but she says Céline was supposed to be at the Met Gala but had to cancel last minute because she had a crisis. She says that while Céline would love to be at the Olympics, it’s not up to her, her body will decide. (Which is an obvious conclusion so not news per se, but thought the Met Gala comment was notable… if true, of course).

 

I highly doubt it. Do we they think she’d even be talking about coming back to the stage if she still suffers from “crisis” often?

At least I hope and pray not. What happens if she goes back to the stage in Vegas and feels great before the show and while onstage she goes into a “crisis”?

[scielle]

I highly doubt it. Do we they think she’d even be talking about coming back to the stage if she still suffers from “crisis” often?

At least I hope and pray not. What happens if she goes back to the stage in Vegas and feels great before the show and while onstage she goes into a “crisis”?

 

Yes, agreed.

We certainly had a lot of signs she might be there, and perhaps the interviewee here just jumped on the same bandwagon as we did. While in many ways, a Met appearance would have made a lot of sense for her this year, on the other it would have been challenging for her to do it prior to all the interviews we got in the last 2 weeks. Remember, Met Gala is not just a brief photo op. It's a party. She would have had to spend several hours explaining to everyone where she's been, how she's doing, etc. All of that would have been emotionally draining, even if she was physically in shape to do it. But now, with the interviews and the doc out there, the cat is out of the bag and she's got a clean slate and a huge weight off her shoulders, so she can move on.

[Céline RO]

Two French podcasts here, from RTL:

 

One is an interview around the doc and recent events. I don’t know how reliable the interviewee is, but she says Céline was supposed to be at the Met Gala but had to cancel last minute because she had a crisis. She says that while Céline would love to be at the Olympics, it’s not up to her, her body will decide. (Which is an obvious conclusion so not news per se, but thought the Met Gala comment was notable… if true, of course).

 

Hm the part about the Met Gala could well be true. The only thing is, Law posted that message “thinking about the queen today” a couple of days earlier, and some of us interpreted that as reflecting his being informed of her inability to attend. A crisis surely couldn’t have been the reason if she had already decided not to attend 2 days in advance. Likewise, the message probably didn’t reflect any news.

[Céline RO]

 

 

I highly doubt it. Do we they think she’d even be talking about coming back to the stage if she still suffers from “crisis” often?

At least I hope and pray not. What happens if she goes back to the stage in Vegas and feels great before the show and while onstage she goes into a “crisis”?

 

Well it doesn’t have to be often. If she had one crisis over the course a year she would probably commit do doing pretty much anything but if it happens to be on the evening of the show/gala, that’s that.

[Nmj]

 

 

Well it doesn’t have to be often. If she had one crisis over the course a year she would probably commit do doing pretty much anything but if it happens to be on the evening of the show/gala, that’s that.

 

What’s the likelihood of that she gets one “crisis” a year and it happens to be around the MET gala?

[tshlw]

What’s the likelihood of that she gets one “crisis” a year and it happens to be around the MET gala?

 

A crisis a few days before I can see make her cancel as I am sure takes a lot out of her and would make her a little leery. If it is true that is.

 

But I am with you if she had one on stage I can't imagine what then. Not sure anyone would insure her for a show again, and even more what it would do to her personally and to her fans. Why I hope and pray she is ready and not pushing to fast.

[scielle]

But I am with you if she had one on stage I can't imagine what then. Not sure anyone would insure her for a show again, and even more what it would do to her personally and to her fans. Why I hope and pray she is ready and not pushing to fast.

 

About that, I've been wondering whether part of this "coming clean" in the interviews and doc is for insurance purposes, too.

Her shows will clearly be very difficult and expensive to insure now. And with the CWT and RW cancellations, the insurer for those had to pay out. But to do that, I'm sure they asked for a "doctor's note", so to speak. And what was she to provide, before her diagnosis? Every ENT told her she's fine, doctors couldn't figure it out, meanwhile she couldn't walk. I wonder if part of her frustration with not knowing had to do with that. She needed to prove it wasn't all in her head.

[Ukrfan]

About that, I've been wondering whether part of this "coming clean" in the interviews and doc is for insurance purposes, too.

Her shows will clearly be very difficult and expensive to insure now. And with the CWT and RW cancellations, the insurer for those had to pay out. But to do that, I'm sure they asked for a "doctor's note", so to speak. And what was she to provide, before her diagnosis? Every ENT told her she's fine, doctors couldn't figure it out, meanwhile she couldn't walk. I wonder if part of her frustration with not knowing had to do with that. She needed to prove it wasn't all in her head.

 

Couldn't even GPs write an official conclusion that she's unable to work due to severe and persistent muscle spasms? Even without specifying a particular disease? I'm not sure how it works in the US, but here even 911 can write an official note. And we know they called them.

[scielle]

Couldn't even GPs write an official conclusion that she's unable to work due to severe and persistent muscle spasms? Even without specifying a particular disease? I'm not sure how it works in the US, but here even 911 can write an official note. And we know they called them.

I have no clue but we’re talking about millions in insurance payout. This isn’t like you or I missing work. The stakes are much higher so I would expect the “burden of proof” is, too.

[tshlw]

About that, I've been wondering whether part of this "coming clean" in the interviews and doc is for insurance purposes, too.

Her shows will clearly be very difficult and expensive to insure now. And with the CWT and RW cancellations, the insurer for those had to pay out. But to do that, I'm sure they asked for a "doctor's note", so to speak. And what was she to provide, before her diagnosis? Every ENT told her she's fine, doctors couldn't figure it out, meanwhile she couldn't walk. I wonder if part of her frustration with not knowing had to do with that. She needed to prove it wasn't all in her head.

 

Hmm that could be too but makes you wonder after an insurer sees that crisis in the movie would they be less likely to want to back her.

 

Yeah can't imagine the pressure not just for cancelling on her fans but all the behind the scenes things at a time when going through so much.

[LukeD]

I agree that if she were to sing at the Olympics I'd rather listen to her original songs. Her French discography is very strong and deserves more recognition.

[Céline RO]

Excuse the ignorance, but what exactly does an insurer do in Céline’s business? Whose spending are they insuring? And what are they insuring against?

[scielle]

Excuse the ignorance, but what exactly does an insurer do in Céline’s business? Whose spending are they insuring? And what are they insuring against?

Promoters will usually want to take out insurance covering cancellation, non-appearance, AD&D (among other things). Claim proceeds are used to cover refunds to ticket holders, venue rental, promo costs that can’t be recouped, suppliers & contractors, etc.