DionFanAlways Posted September 3, 2022 at 11:41 AM Posted September 3, 2022 at 11:41 AM I liked Pepe. As we get older we need that burst of youthful energy and that's the way I see their relationship. Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:03 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:03 PM Still nothing…. Are we sure these rumours are not a way of getting Celine to respond? Kev x Quote
RosieBarron Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:06 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:06 PM (edited) I still don’t understand why people thought it was bizarre that she wanted to wear couture, and that’s what they brought to her to wear. I also don’t find it odd that she found friendship in Pepe. I find it odd that so many of you found it odd lol. It wasn't wanting a friend or to wear houtcouture that was the odd part. It was his sudden omnipresence, and the clear imbalance in the friendship, the way it felt like he was using her for his own publicity and the weariness people felt with all the rumours which just hung around for way too long. The fact that their friendship seems to have collapsed quite quickly when covid started seems a good indication that it wasn't built on a strong foundation. Edited September 3, 2022 at 12:08 PM by RosieBarron Quote
AdrienneM Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:25 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:25 PM I think it’s safe to say that this was (again) a rumour (or, more accurately, people just making stuff up) Quote
Nmj Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:26 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 12:26 PM I’m thinking this announcement takes place after Monday, since it’s a holiday. Tuesday is the day I’m watching. 1 Quote
ryba Posted September 3, 2022 at 02:23 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 02:23 PM (edited) 1662206762[/url]' post='2421762']It wasn't wanting a friend or to wear houtcouture that was the odd part. It was his sudden omnipresence, and the clear imbalance in the friendship, the way it felt like he was using her for his own publicity and the weariness people felt with all the rumours which just hung around for way too long. The fact that their friendship seems to have collapsed quite quickly when covid started seems a good indication that it wasn't built on a strong foundation.I will share my thoughts on this with you. I believe that the Pepe and Celine thing was a publicity thing arranged by her management to generate attention around Celine, because what matters the most in show business is publics attention. And if people talk about you, that’s good already, regardless of whether or not it’s always positive. Bear in mind that Aldo was her manager at the time and he was very smart. Look at JLo, she always makes headlines with her relationships and there were many rumours that these were never real, same as Mariah back then when she had her reality show and was supposed to get married to that billionaire, but of course it never happened. They wanted people to watch her reality show. These are show business tactics. Even when Rene was her manager, they promoted her showcasing their private family life all the time, cause they had to offer something people are interested in or can relate to. Yet, I do believe that her and Pepe indeed liked each other very much as friends. So IMO the Celine Pepe thing was done on purpose. She was out and about with him like never before in her entire career making sure the paparazzi can take pictures. And it worked, she was in every gossip newspaper at the time until it got crazy, Pepe got lots of hate for allegedly using her and she eventually had to make a statement that they are only friends and nothing more, cause it got out of control. I think that this experience thought her a lesson and that’s the reason why she is very private now. Edited September 3, 2022 at 02:32 PM by ryba Quote
stevo Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:22 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:22 PM (edited) But then remember they made that public announcement basically rubbishing any claim that he was using her etc,- Celine was 100% responsible for that announcement and obviously went mad when claims were made about him. I wish she would get a new management company that is focussed on her music and public image as a singer first and foremost and build some credibility to her legacy. Edited September 3, 2022 at 03:24 PM by stevo 3 Quote
comingback Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:38 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:38 PM (edited) One member of the forum made a great parody of the Barbie Girl song back then to describe their relationship: I'm a Barbie girl in a Pepe world, life in plastic... Remember that? It was funny. Anyway, so Forumparty next week ??? Edited September 3, 2022 at 03:51 PM by comingback Quote
RosieBarron Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:42 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 03:42 PM But then remember they made that public announcement basically rubbishing any claim that he was using her etc,- Celine was 100% responsible for that announcement and obviously went mad when claims were made about him. I wish she would get a new management company that is focussed on her music and public image as a singer first and foremost and build some credibility to her legacy. Totally agree. She has an amazing legacy to protect and it has all just felt like it is slipping in recent years. Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 3, 2022 at 04:37 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 04:37 PM Totally agree. She has an amazing legacy to protect and it has all just felt like it is slipping in recent years. People will always try to bring others down. Celine’s legacy is stable. It feels worse because she has t been around for so many years now and also her health problems. She will be back and will show the world once again who she is and who she always will be. Kev x 6 Quote
smw Posted September 3, 2022 at 04:42 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 04:42 PM Celine’s got a lot of admirers out there. They will show up when she re-emerges. I think a lot of amazing stuff is on the horizon for her career and legacy. 3 Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 3, 2022 at 05:12 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 05:12 PM Celine’s got a lot of admirers out there. They will show up when she re-emerges. I think a lot of amazing stuff is on the horizon for her career and legacy. No only that, her music will stand the test of time on its own which has been seen through the past few years. Kev x 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted September 3, 2022 at 05:39 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 05:39 PM It wasn't wanting a friend or to wear houtcouture that was the odd part. It was his sudden omnipresence, and the clear imbalance in the friendship, the way it felt like he was using her for his own publicity and the weariness people felt with all the rumours which just hung around for way too long. The fact that their friendship seems to have collapsed quite quickly when covid started seems a good indication that it wasn't built on a strong foundation. I think that once the media caught a glimpse of her hanging out with a younger man, they ran with it and it became what it became through the lens of a camera. Celine was clearly doing things she wanted to do as an independent woman, ok her own terms. Something the media had never seen before from her, so they were following her closely. I believe Pepe just got caught in the crossfire and we ended up seeing more of him than was intended. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
ryba Posted September 3, 2022 at 07:53 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 07:53 PM (edited) I still think that it was meant to be a PR thing, at least initially. She was going out at night and having drinks with him in public knowing that there are pararazzi everywhere. If she just wanted to have a good time, she wouldn't do it right in front of the crowds and paparazzi. She is a pro and could also handle it differently if she wanted to. Edited September 3, 2022 at 07:53 PM by ryba Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 3, 2022 at 08:11 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 08:11 PM I just want her back where she belongs… this woman has touched so many people and continues to do so. Staying in the shadows is not Celine. Come on Celine… where are you? Kev x 4 Quote
stevo Posted September 3, 2022 at 09:23 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 09:23 PM Hopefully on the brink of something big. I’d love them to do something big in terms of announcing she’s back. She is a star and needs to do it big 4 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted September 3, 2022 at 10:49 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 10:49 PM I still think that it was meant to be a PR thing, at least initially. She was going out at night and having drinks with him in public knowing that there are pararazzi everywhere. If she just wanted to have a good time, she wouldn't do it right in front of the crowds and paparazzi. She is a pro and could also handle it differently if she wanted to. Or she just wanted to go out and didn’t care about the paparazzi? She has her team of bodyguards, and can go anywhere at anytime. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
scielle Posted September 3, 2022 at 11:43 PM Posted September 3, 2022 at 11:43 PM She was also out seeing shows - cabaret, theater, dance, fashion - not exactly something you can do in the privacy of your home. The idea that the Pepe media frenzy was somehow “engineered” for PR purposes is, frankly, silly. 3 Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:59 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:59 AM I disagree She was also out seeing shows - cabaret, theater, dance, fashion - not exactly something you can do in the privacy of your home. The idea that the Pepe media frenzy was somehow “engineered” for PR purposes is, frankly, silly. Quote
ryba Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:22 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:22 AM I get you, but seeing a show is different than intentionally choosing to expose yourself on a balcony and having drinks where underneath crowds of people and paparazzi gather to take pictures and you just continue sitting there and allowing it. Also walking through the streets holding hands (or elbows) knowing that they are photographed from all sides, it looked like they provoked it. Then the media went crazy and it escalated. But in the end only Celine knows. Quote
comingback Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:39 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:39 AM I get you, but seeing a show is different than intentionally choosing to expose yourself on a balcony and having drinks where underneath crowds of people and paparazzi gather to take pictures and you just continue sitting there and allowing it. Also walking through the streets holding hands (or elbows) knowing that they are photographed from all sides, it looked like they provoked it. Then the media went crazy and it escalated. But in the end only Celine knows. Yes exactly, maybe she wanted to play with the media: Look, I'm a strong, independent woman and I have a young and attractive Toyboy like Madonna. But then it went out of control... 1 Quote
AdrienneM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:43 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:43 AM For the love of Christ… I guess we’ve now reached the point of mental gymnastics where Celine cannot have friends, a social life or do anything outside of her performing without it being seen as attention seeking or playing it up for the media. No wonder she has zero interest in social media, keeping up with the “hardcore fans” or having a presence whilst away from the limelight cause you people are just awful. 2 Quote
Dancing_Queen Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:49 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:49 AM Céline was photographed in the streets of Paris many times. Not just with Pepe, but with her kids, bodyguards etc. She clearly wanted to enjoy the city, visiting the museums/restaurants/shops. There is no way she could do that in a city like Paris without being photographed. That said, those pictures of her and Pepe outside of the Louvre have always looked staged to me. I think they knew exactly what sone people were starting to suspect and decided to have some fun with it. 1 Quote
ryba Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:52 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 10:52 AM Yes, they were playing with the media Quote
No1IrishFan Posted September 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM Posted September 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM I don’t think they’ve been intentionally playing with or provoking the media. Why would she suddenly want to do that after such a long time in the public eye? It makes no sense. The way I see it, Pepe came into the fold and he and Celine bonded. They found themselves in Paris or wherever in world and there were things on that either Celine or Pepe (or both) wanted to attend. They were close at the time so they went together. Press were there taking pictures. End of story. Their dynamic when together is another topic altogether. Celine clearly enjoyed a younger person around her and it showed when she was with him. Wether she was right to or not is not our place to comment. Personally I’m not a fan of Pepe but that’s neither here nor there. 2 Quote
comingback Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM I don’t think they’ve been intentionally playing with or provoking the media. Why would she suddenly want to do that after such a long time in the public eye? It makes no sense. The way I see it, Pepe came into the fold and he and Celine bonded. They found themselves in Paris or wherever in world and there were things on that either Celine or Pepe (or both) wanted to attend. They were close at the time so they went together. Press were there taking pictures. End of story. Their dynamic when together is another topic altogether. Celine clearly enjoyed a younger person around her and it showed when she was with him. Wether she was right to or not is not our place to comment. Personally I’m not a fan of Pepe but that’s neither here nor there. Come on, the first pictures in Paris look like they were staged for the media and Celine wanted to have fun... That the media hype about their friendship went out of control is another story... 1 Quote
garyhollander Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:23 PM Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:23 PM I will share my thoughts on this with you. I believe that the Pepe and Celine thing was a publicity thing arranged by her management to generate attention around Celine, because what matters the most in show business is publics attention. And if people talk about you, that’s good already, regardless of whether or not it’s always positive. Bear in mind that Aldo was her manager at the time and he was very smart. Look at JLo, she always makes headlines with her relationships and there were many rumours that these were never real, same as Mariah back then when she had her reality show and was supposed to get married to that billionaire, but of course it never happened. They wanted people to watch her reality show. These are show business tactics. Even when Rene was her manager, they promoted her showcasing their private family life all the time, cause they had to offer something people are interested in or can relate to. Yet, I do believe that her and Pepe indeed liked each other very much as friends. So IMO the Celine Pepe thing was done on purpose. She was out and about with him like never before in her entire career making sure the paparazzi can take pictures. And it worked, she was in every gossip newspaper at the time until it got crazy, Pepe got lots of hate for allegedly using her and she eventually had to make a statement that they are only friends and nothing more, cause it got out of control. I think that this experience thought her a lesson and that’s the reason why she is very private now.Cant it just be that after renee she sought refuge in doing things she always wanted to do in the mean time keeping her mind busy so she could deal with the horribel pain of loosing rene. I think people underestimate what happens to someone when you loose not the love of your life, but your safe space your everything the persin you depend on everything for your hole life.. things you never had to worry about. Maybe by coincedence she met pepe and the youthfull way of being maybe relite her kindert spirit things she always wanted to do but could never due to always putting her career first. Same thing she experience after motherhood.. her voice always had her priority until she became a mom.. same thing now i believe she got this freedom to do things she never could do as celine the artist and eventhougj she loves doing it music , she started seeing her career as not the most important thing in her life anymore.. Afyer pandamic where she could not run and keep herself busy anymore she eas forced to sit and deal with her loss and marriage and struggles like all of us did... maybe thats when the ailments started too they say whem you take a break and rest that is when the tiredness and all come up soo . I believe its just a journey in life as we all have that she is goi g through.. its not hating music, or not caring anymore about fans or music.. just with traumatic events in life we all learn what the important things are for us in life.. and maybe eventhough we want her to have music as number one in her life thats not our decishon to make... i hope that what my idea of how her story is going is through and that she feels more at piece and enjoying life a little cause seh deserves it .. Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 4 Quote
garyhollander Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:25 PM Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:25 PM I still think that it was meant to be a PR thing, at least initially. She was going out at night and having drinks with him in public knowing that there are pararazzi everywhere. If she just wanted to have a good time, she wouldn't do it right in front of the crowds and paparazzi. She is a pro and could also handle it differently if she wanted to.I dont think so maybe the gping out and being a fashion queen yes!! But pepe no otherwise they would have come with not a gay guy but a famous person maybe i dont know Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk Quote
Chantemoi Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:30 PM Posted September 4, 2022 at 12:30 PM (edited) That anyone could believe the Céline/Pepe buzz was a premeditated media campaign just further proves to me how delusional some of you are… at most, there might have been one day where she was particularly annoyed/fed up with being hounded and, spontaneously, leaned extra heavy into Pepe for emotional support — but there is no reason to believe she was trying to get the press to believe they were dating, for attention’s sake, when she has so publicly repeated that she had no interested in dating after René’s death. Likewise, it’s delusional to think Pepe was exploiting their friendship when most anyone else (including most of you) in his shoes would have acted way less professional about it. I think he handled the sudden attention very respectfully. It’s not like he was going online and posting videos talking about her or trying to get attention/sympathy from the public. As bizarre as the TC message about Pepe was, I think it was directed at the rabid super fans as much as it was the press. Edited September 4, 2022 at 12:31 PM by Chantemoi 3 Quote
stevo Posted September 4, 2022 at 02:54 PM Posted September 4, 2022 at 02:54 PM I have to agree. Personally I don’t think Pepe had an ulterior motive, and genuinely I think her and he did bond, that she was very aware of protecting him and that in the end it probably just got too crazy for him, including hundreds of Celine Dion fans perpetually bothering him and demanding to know this or that. The ‘Pepe Thing’ annoyed me only because I wanted her new album, her music, her voice and her tour to be first. But that’s none of my business….she deserves happiness. 2 Quote
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