New Las Vegas residency show!

[stevo]

Adele’s a witch.

 

The only reason I’d be against a Celine return to Vegas before the tour, is purely for her reputation and for the potential of awkwardness.

 

She’d need to promote it, even to say some time in advance of returning to Resorts World in October or November that she is ‘so excited, good to go, feeling top shape, has an amazing show planned’ etc etc when meanwhile people have waited for 3 years for concerts and are still going to have to wait.

 

It just doesn’t seem right to me.

Edited May 1, 2022 at 08:27 AM by stevo

[ordinary fan]

Adele's a witch.

 

The only reason I'd be against a Celine return to Vegas before the tour, is purely for her reputation and for the potential of awkwardness.

 

She'd need to promote it, even to say some time in advance of returning to Resorts World in October or November that she is 'so excited, good to go, feeling top shape, has an amazing show planned' etc etc when meanwhile people have waited for 3 years for concerts and are still going to have to wait.

 

It just doesn't seem right to me.

That's also my point, it would look quite strange and somehow a bit rude tto towards the fans who are waiting for 3 years now for concerts

[Alex_Incognito]

Avril Lavigne postponed her European tour a year and is beginning her north american tour the month after she was supposed to play Europe. I was annoyed particularly because she cancelled my concert in Paris and then was engaged in front of the Eiffel Tower a week later.

[Davey84]

Actually I wouldn't mind if Céline did a few shows later this year: it will show if she's healty (enough) again and well rested and really to slay again. She can get back into the entertainment industry in her own home town (like some said too), so that's less pressure too.

[CelineTheBest5]

Actually I wouldn't mind if Céline did a few shows later this year: it will show if she's healty (enough) again and well rested and really to slay again. She can get back into the entertainment industry in her own home town (like some said too), so that's less pressure too.

 

Exactly. I also don’t mind at all. I miss her and it will be a relief to know she’s ready to come back!

And maybe I will see her there too, and I already have tickets for Europe since 2019 and I will keep them!

[Chantemoi]

I wish I was as optimistic as all of you, but after hearing her vocal condition in 2019-2020 (I saw her three times during that period) and then seeing the set list for CWT, I was nothing short of disappointed. In the last few weeks of her Caesar’s gig, her energy matched a captive zoo animal. She definitely had more of a spark on tour, but the power her voice used to carry was gone.

 

I had some hope for the opening of the RW shows that her voice would be well-rested but after the cancellation I was left utterly disillusioned with her return to the stage. It didn’t help that the only “new” song we’ve had since 2019 was “Superwoman” (anyone remember that song?!)

 

With yet another cancellation/postponement, I find it harder and harder each time to believe she will sing again with the same intensity we’re used to. Clearly she doesn’t think she’s up to par either, and at this point I just feel sorry for her that she’s locked into that contract. She doesn’t seem happy at all.

 

What she truly needs is to be free of any commitment and stress, and I just can’t see that on the horizon. But hey, she’s going to be in a new movie and we’ll be seeing her all over the place in a year’s time. Hopefully by then she’ll look and feel better!

[rfkavanagh]

I wish I was as optimistic as all of you, but after hearing her vocal condition in 2019-2020 (I saw her three times during that period) and then seeing the set list for CWT, I was nothing short of disappointed. In the last few weeks of her Caesar's gig, her energy matched a captive zoo animal. She definitely had more of a spark on tour, but the power her voice used to carry was gone.

 

Her final show at Caesars was a total snoozefest - what should have been an energetic, celebratory show could not have been more going-through-the-motions. It was highly disappointing - and by far the least interesting and dynamic show I've ever seen her perform.

 

I'll remain cautiously optimistic about any future shows, but if she doesn't find a way to be inspired again and rekindle her own interest, it's just going to be another by-the-numbers show with the same tracks in mostly the same arrangements with the same patter. She needs to do something bold to reignite her passion - and fans'. (Or, she doesn't, because she can choose the lazy option and people will still show up.)

[Alex_Incognito]

The Vegas shows ended with a whimper and started triumphantly. The 2011 Vegas première was a hell of a time to be a Céline fan. She looked good, gorgeous even, and her voice was perfection. Granted, once we started losing René (especially once the Asian tour was scrapped) her interest went with it. And I get it. She ultimately lost the reason for whom she performed. The 2016/2017 tours gave us all hope but after that it all went to hell. Courage was more of an attempt to look relevant and the tour was among her least inspired. She does need a renaissance.

[AdrienneM]

Celines voice did sound stunning in 2011/2012. But I’ve always felt the set list was absolutely the worst of her career. Barely any of her *own* hits, a massive amount of lip synching, a bunch of random covers (most of which were lip synched to pre-recorded tracks) and it was literally scripted and rehearsed down to the very breath between words… talk about going through the motions, by the end of 2011 she looked bored out of her mind reciting the same rehearsed speeches word for word between songs. I, personally, have never seen the appeal of the 2011-2014 vegas era other than her vocal condition early on and I liked the gowns… it contains basically everything people claim to hate and speak so intensely about with relation to her current (and past) shows and yet it’s seen in a far more positive light considering… interesting. Edited May 1, 2022 at 07:46 PM by AdrienneM

[mirage]

 

However most of the regular European celine concert visitors will have no clue.

But you are right on this.

If there is a October/November schedule, they need to start somewhere August/September promoting it.

 

Still too quick

 

Adele’s a witch.

 

The only reason I’d be against a Celine return to Vegas before the tour, is purely for her reputation and for the potential of awkwardness.

 

She’d need to promote it, even to say some time in advance of returning to Resorts World in October or November that she is ‘so excited, good to go, feeling top shape, has an amazing show planned’ etc etc when meanwhile people have waited for 3 years for concerts and are still going to have to wait.

 

It just doesn’t seem right to me.

[Ajax]

I wish I was as optimistic as all of you, but after hearing her vocal condition in 2019-2020 (I saw her three times during that period) and then seeing the set list for CWT, I was nothing short of disappointed. In the last few weeks of her Caesar’s gig, her energy matched a captive zoo animal. She definitely had more of a spark on tour, but the power her voice used to carry was gone.

 

I had some hope for the opening of the RW shows that her voice would be well-rested but after the cancellation I was left utterly disillusioned with her return to the stage. It didn’t help that the only “new” song we’ve had since 2019 was “Superwoman” (anyone remember that song?!)

 

With yet another cancellation/postponement, I find it harder and harder each time to believe she will sing again with the same intensity we’re used to. Clearly she doesn’t think she’s up to par either, and at this point I just feel sorry for her that she’s locked into that contract. She doesn’t seem happy at all.

 

What she truly needs is to be free of any commitment and stress, and I just can’t see that on the horizon. But hey, she’s going to be in a new movie and we’ll be seeing her all over the place in a year’s time. Hopefully by then she’ll look and feel better!

 

Well when I read that some people think or wish she will take some time to at least record here and there new songs. Well, I m not that optimistic either. When you know about the contract she attached to, how many people it involves, and the fact that she likes it so much. I genuinely think that she more or less lost her voice, she just can’t sing for some reasons and maybe yes this is due to spasms. And if she cannot train her vocal chord for such a long time at her age it s not gonna be beneficial at all. We maybnever hear about her anymore. I know it sounds dramatic but that s clearly how I see things. It s more than well ok she can sing on a chair and take it easy. At this point, she just maybe completely lost it. Due to her spasm or whatever. Just maybe.

Edited May 1, 2022 at 08:40 PM by Ajax

[ordinary fan]

Well when I read that some people think or wish she will take some time to at least record here and there new songs. Well, I m not that optimistic either. When you know about the contract she attached to, how many people it involves, and the fact that she likes it so much. I genuinely think that she more or less lost her voice, she just can't sing for some reasons and maybe yes this is due to spasms. And if she cannot train her vocal chord for such a long time at her age it s not gonna be beneficial at all. We maybnever hear about her anymore. I know it sounds dramatic but that s clearly how I see things. It s more than well ok she can sing on a chair and take it easy. At this point, she just maybe completely lost it. Due to her spasm or whatever. Just maybe.

To me this seems overdramatic. Of course her voice won't get stronger with age, that'sa thing we should all get used to, even Celine herself. But her voice condition was always goodn after breaks and I'm sure when she is coming back, she will sound sublime. I mean do you really think she trained much during her pregnacy in 2010 and still in 2011 her voice was amazingly well

[smw]

I'm thankful that her voice is getting a long rest after so many years. This is the longest those vocal cords of hers have rested since she had the twins. She really needed to take a nice, long break after Vegas ended in 2019 -- but she kept on going. And her voice, while still amazing, was getting weaker.

 

Celine really did sound incredible when she returned in 2011. I was astonished when I saw her in March of that year at the Vegas premiere. It was like 90s Celine.

 

I'm hopeful that her voice will sound very strong again when she returns to the stage. Granted, she's in a different boat now. She's faced so much more stress now that she's also taken on the business side of her career. But I hope she finds a good balance, surrounds herself with people she can trust, and feels the joy in performing again. As long as she's eager to perform, everything else will fall into place.

[No1IrishFan]

Celines voice did sound stunning in 2011/2012. But I’ve always felt the set list was absolutely the worst of her career. Barely any of her *own* hits, a massive amount of lip synching, a bunch of random covers (most of which were lip synched to pre-recorded tracks) and it was literally scripted and rehearsed down to the very breath between words… talk about going through the motions, by the end of 2011 she looked bored out of her mind reciting the same rehearsed speeches word for word between songs. I, personally, have never seen the appeal of the 2011-2014 vegas era other than her vocal condition early on and I liked the gowns… it contains basically everything people claim to hate and speak so intensely about with relation to her current (and past) shows and yet it’s seen in a far more positive light considering… interesting.

 

Can’t agree more. Love the voice from those few years but I struggle to watch a performance. She looks bored and it’s too rigid. Probably in the minority here but I think the Celine we see on the Courage tour is one of my favourites.

[Alex_Incognito]

Her voice on the Courage tour was very shrill at times. Not as polished and beautiful as we are used to. It was the first time I'd actually cringed when I heard some notes. Some performances were spot-on amazing (like "The Prayer" solo).

[jolo87]

Maintaining a busy performing schedule with some vocal damage can actually mask the issue, since the muscles can be trained pretty easily to do some workarounds. Once that muscle memory is gone, you still have to deal with the underlying problem. My guess is that she took a long period of vocal rest during lockdown, assumed this would solve the problem, and then when she started training her voice again the problems were still there ... but it's an uphill battle at that point because you can't put a lot of strain on your voice.

 

I'm not sure if the spasms are vocal chord spasms or if that's just one way of delicately phrasing a condition like nodules (caused by strain and oversinging) which may be somewhat accurately be described as causing spasming or closing of the vocal chords at certain points in her range. For example, a singer with severe nodules may lose their falsetto, be unable to project beyond a certain volume, or may be unable to blend from chest voice to falsetto. If that's the case, I'm sure it's her worst nightmare come true.

 

If Celine has sustained a vocal chord injury, though, why would she mention taking medication? I don't think she would ever agree to get surgery nor would a doctor advise her to at her age. So, this is all remains very mysterious...

Edited May 2, 2022 at 02:13 PM by jolo87

[ryba]

Who knows what the real reason is. Maybe she doesn’t want anyone to know because it might affect her larger-than-life tour and residency deal.

[nuts2you]

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/what-can-cause-severe-and-persistent-muscle-spasms-like-the-ones-celine-dion-suffers-from-article-90693194

 

 

I happen to be searching the web today and found this interesting article , it may help with some of your answers

[SuperLove4Celine]

The Vegas shows ended with a whimper and started triumphantly. The 2011 Vegas première was a hell of a time to be a Céline fan. She looked good, gorgeous even, and her voice was perfection. Granted, once we started losing René (especially once the Asian tour was scrapped) her interest went with it. And I get it. She ultimately lost the reason for whom she performed. The 2016/2017 tours gave us all hope but after that it all went to hell. Courage was more of an attempt to look relevant and the tour was among her least inspired. She does need a renaissance.

 

I've wondered what that Asian tour would have looked like since it would have been used to promote the album, "Loved Me Back To Life." Obviously, the tour would have included the title track, as well as "Water And A Flame" and "Incredible." However, I do wonder if others from the album such as "Somebody Loves Somebody," "Save Your Soul" and "Unfinished Songs" would have made it to the stage. I know at the time, too, songs such as "I Surrender" and "The Power Of The Dream" were rumored to have been considered for the tour. Hopefully, we'll get answers to these questions someday.

[Peppercorn1991]

 

 

I've wondered what that Asian tour would have looked like since it would have been used to promote the album, "Loved Me Back To Life." Obviously, the tour would have included the title track, as well as "Water And A Flame" and "Incredible." However, I do wonder if others from the album such as "Somebody Loves Somebody," "Save Your Soul" and "Unfinished Songs" would have made it to the stage. I know at the time, too, songs such as "I Surrender" and "The Power Of The Dream" were rumored to have been considered for the tour. Hopefully, we'll get answers to these questions someday.

 

Very interesting however I don’t think we will ever know!

 

Kev x

[DionFanAlways]

I've wondered what that Asian tour would have looked like since it would have been used to promote the album, "Loved Me Back To Life." Obviously, the tour would have included the title track, as well as "Water And A Flame" and "Incredible." However, I do wonder if others from the album such as "Somebody Loves Somebody," "Save Your Soul" and "Unfinished Songs" would have made it to the stage. I know at the time, too, songs such as "I Surrender" and "The Power Of The Dream" were rumored to have been considered for the tour. Hopefully, we'll get answers to these questions someday.

Probably like the Courage tour....

She had the opportunity to roll out some of LMBTL for Vegas and, well, you know the score.

[remykyes]

Just went over to the Resorts World website and noticed that Celine's photo and dates TBA has been removed from the entertainment lineup.

[scielle]

Just went over to the Resorts World website and noticed that Celine's photo and dates TBA has been removed from the entertainment lineup.

 

Well, at this rate Fountainbleu will be completed by the time she’s ready, so maybe she’ll go across the street instead. 😏

[AdrienneM]

Just went over to the Resorts World website and noticed that Celine's photo and dates TBA has been removed from the entertainment lineup.

 

Damn… wonder if it’s simply due to them formulating dates or if she’s possibly swapped venue

[nuts2you]

make you kinda of wonder :hmm:

[nuts2you]

make you kinda of wonder :hmm:

 

I do wonder how tickets sales are going as well

[jolo87]

Who knows what the real reason is. Maybe she doesn’t want anyone to know because it might affect her larger-than-life tour and residency deal.

 

If the spasms are vocal-related, admitting that is going to cause a storm of negative press. "Celine Dion mystery health crisis" would become "WILL CELINE DION EVER SING AGAIN?" ... "CELINE DION LOSES HER VOICE" etc ... that in itself would be more newsworthy than what she's put out so far, and I really think it would damage her severely.

[CelineDionFreak]

This is very interesting that they’ve taken her down from the website… I surely don’t think they’ll be announcing dates anytime soon with the recent news of cancellations. Part of me wonders if she really has swapped venues or if they’re just taking it down until they can figure it all out.

She will be in Vegas though, if she plans on finishing her contract. Just a matter of where and when now.

Edited May 3, 2022 at 03:14 AM by CelineDionFreak

[ordinary fan]

I've wondered what that Asian tour would have looked like since it would have been used to promote the album, "Loved Me Back To Life." Obviously, the tour would have included the title track, as well as "Water And A Flame" and "Incredible." However, I do wonder if others from the album such as "Somebody Loves Somebody," "Save Your Soul" and "Unfinished Songs" would have made it to the stage. I know at the time, too, songs such as "I Surrender" and "The Power Of The Dream" were rumored to have been considered for the tour. Hopefully, we'll get answers to these questions someday.

Didn't she rehearsed breakaway and didn't know love too, which were later considered for vegas but sadly not performed yet?

[PuraVida]

Regarding the discussion about Celine's voice, I see no reason why she cannot sound great for multiple decades to come. Tons of other singers have sounded great into their later years and Celine has all this time taken great care of her voice.

 

She didn't do any vocal exercises during her 1999 - 2002 hiatus and came back without a problem. I foresee the same thing now. The Courage tour did have some rough moments, but the thing is she had that ear problem that complicated things and her mother was in her final days. I think if anything, it is her technique that maybe gave her issues, not age.

Edited May 3, 2022 at 12:38 PM by PuraVida