Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[browseceline]

 

She literally just did 2 fan service tours full of fan favourites and deep cuts for english and french audiences... id understand if she didnt but she did literally just do it. This tour in North America is obviously a greatest hits oriented show, come on, her first US touring show in 10 years of course it would be, as was the TCWT, considering she would just not do some new songs some nights inexplicably. And yeah, of course it seems worse to us, we follow her every move and have done for some of us upto 30 years... the 99% of those who make up her audiences dont, thats the main point

Well we will see if this tour changes in Europe.

I do get a greatest hits tour but don't call it a courage tour then.

 

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[nuts2you]

well if you look at her audience / regular fans they seem pleased / excited that she there in front of them,, but she not putting into the effort of us diehard fans as well, btw dont forget this tour is ONLY FOR regular fans, :down:

[queenofvegas]

The setlist isn't even as bad as most of you make it out to be. It's good enough to please the masses, and that's exactly what TC is going for with this tour. The sad reality is that most of the American general public does not want to hear her new songs, they want all of the classics. It's just something we have to deal with. We also have to keep in mind that these are people that haven't seen Celine perform in 10+ years.

[guigafs15]

People saying "I'm done with Celine" since the tour started but, almost 4 months later, they're all still here (repeating the same thing over and over) lol.

 

Let's face it: the tour it's the only thing doing (very) well in Celine's career. They will not change it because of a bunch of people in a fan forum.

 

All that we asked before (a new album, new pop/radio-friendly songs, a 20 songs tracklist, music videos...) turn out to be a huge failure, commercially.

 

There's no reason for them to listen to the fans.

 

 

 

[manolo19]

She should at least listen to the critics who claims the medley is the weakest part of the show, Celine has immunity for me , I will always love her but I can't say I admire her for the 'artistic' decisions and direction for her career.. even her interviews are so basic repeating the same cassette , pose, photoshoot. I'm afraid I will have to wait a few years for a new project she will believe in and put time and effort . Courage era is sad and disapointing , can't lie sorry.

 

I am aware we are her worst nightmare as die-hard fans who follow her and know everything about her , she can't fool us with lipped big notes followed by incredible ovation , I just can't help but be fascinated by her talent when she pushes herself into unknown territory and different songs. She loves auto-pilot and I can't blame her for that but it's not an exciting time to be a real fan that follows her and knows the magic she can create with her talent and gifted voice

Edited January 10, 2020 at 04:10 AM by manolo19

[browseceline]

People saying "I'm done with Celine" since the tour started but, almost 4 months later, they're all still here (repeating the same thing over and over) lol.

 

Let's face it: the tour it's the only thing doing (very) well in Celine's career. They will not change it because of a bunch of people in a fan forum.

 

All that we asked before (a new album, new pop/radio-friendly songs, a 20 songs tracklist, music videos...) turn out to be a huge failure, commercially.

 

There's no reason for them to listen to the fans.

Why did it turn out to be a huge failure? Because there is zero promotion!

 

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[Chantemoi]

Why oh why has her team posted a playlist of this tour's extremly uninspiring setlist?? Like yea... we really needed a playlist of it. For what? So that we don't miss anything? If we have any best of album of hers well then we have it already....

 

What I think is sad is that they replaced TLBSEPT with SSDA (at least on Apple Music)

... you know, since that album (as well as D’eux & 1F4T) isn’t available for streaming there, but the title song—which appears on the On Ne Change Pas album—is..

Like, whoever was making the playlist was like “Oh, they don’t have TLB. Hmmm.. well no one will notice, so this French song will do.”

Edited January 10, 2020 at 08:28 AM by Chantemoi

[Céline RO]

A few months ago Céline was saying about the tour: “there will be the songs that you want to hear me sing, the songs that you used to hear me sing” and “we’re going to have something very special for the fans, we want it to be the most beautiful experience we’ve ever created for our audiences.”

 

Did that come true?

 

1. She is singing the songs that most of the audience wants to hear her sing (the hits) and songs that we used to hear her sing like “If You Asked Me To”, “The Prayer”, “L’amour existe encore” and “Regarde-moi” (I know the last two were cut but they still were performed and hopefully will make a return). Therefore, I think she has kept her promise on that one.

 

2. It is difficult to judge how “special” it is for the fans. Some (myself included) will find it very special just to be in the presence of Céline while others will be bored. What’s for sure though, is that this show does have completely new visuals, stage design and overall experience. While it’s not radically different or incredibly innovative, I think we can all agree that it is quite a dazzling show (especially when you’re actually there), though I don’t know if the word “beautiful” would be the most appropriate to describe it.

[Celine Fan 77]

I'm shook by how blind her team seems to be and specially by the non-existing communication with fans.

[Celine Fan 77]

Double post, please delete. Edited January 10, 2020 at 09:02 AM by Celine Fan 77

[Chantemoi]

 

 

She literally just did 2 fan service tours full of fan favourites and deep cuts for english and french audiences... id understand if she didnt but she did literally just do it. This tour in North America is obviously a greatest hits oriented show, come on, her first US touring show in 10 years of course it would be, as was the TCWT, considering she would just not do some new songs some nights inexplicably. And yeah, of course it seems worse to us, we follow her every move and have done for some of us upto 30 years... the 99% of those who make up her audiences dont, thats the main point

 

I agree with you, the Greatest Hits are absolutely necessary...

But I’m having a hard time understanding your defending Céline, when we ALL know she’s capable of a better show than this.

 

There are ZERO excuses for why she can’t rotate songs more. Perform a new song from Courage every few weeks.

Where is “Ashes” — her most recent addition to the Greatest Hits anthology?

But “Kiss” - REALLY?!?! That song is apparently vying for the longest running (non-recorded) cover in her entire career— which would be forgivable if it were a showstopper... but it’s not. It’s not even a highlight of the medley, let alone the concert. (Same with B&TB. I'm not six years old anymore, and that song does nothing for me personally.)

 

The point I’m making—which has been repeated ad nauseam on this forum—is that the 99% doesn’t care whether she sings Kiss or Perfect Goodbye, Baby, Right in Front of You, or I Love You— because at that point in the show they’re just there for “the Titanic song”. As long as she lips the hits, those fans are happy.

We the 1%, however, will eventually stop caring to buy her tickets if she neglects her new material both onstage and off (except those who have endlessly deep pockets). I saw her three times in 2019, and I’m set for the rest of my life if she’s going to keep this up.

 

 

 

P.S. Sorry if my remarks are random.. I’ve got insomnia tonight and my brain is running on fumes.

 

[browseceline]

She might as well stop recording new songs if she does not have the courage to sing them

 

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[AdrienneM]

 

 

I agree with you, the Greatest Hits are absolutely necessary...

But I’m having a hard time understanding your defending Céline, when we ALL know she’s capable of a better show than this.

 

There are ZERO excuses for why she can’t rotate songs more. Perform a new song from Courage every few weeks.

Where is “Ashes” — her most recent addition to the Greatest Hits anthology?

But “Kiss” - REALLY?!?! That song is apparently vying for the longest running (non-recorded) cover in her entire career— which would be forgivable if it were a showstopper... but it’s not. It’s not even a highlight of the medley, let alone the concert. (Same with B&TB. I'm not six years old anymore, and that song does nothing for me personally.)

 

The point I’m making—which has been repeated ad nauseam on this forum—is that the 99% doesn’t care whether she sings Kiss or Perfect Goodbye, Baby, Right in Front of You, or I Love You— because at that point in the show they’re just there for “the Titanic song”. As long as she lips the hits, those fans are happy.

We the 1%, however, will eventually stop caring to buy her tickets if she neglects her new material both onstage and off (except those who have endlessly deep pockets). I saw her three times in 2019, and I’m set for the rest of my life if she’s going to keep this up.

 

 

 

P.S. Sorry if my remarks are random.. I’ve got insomnia tonight and my brain is running on fumes.

 

The only thing i dispute with this show is the medley. River Deep has essentially become a Celine song now and it always gets the crowd hyped, Lady Marmalade I quite enjoy, Lets Dance, Kiss and ABTD i despise, If it had to be a medley of covers she could at least do TSMGO and IDAN... hell, she could even bring back RTD/LIAWN, rare songs to shut us up and not covers

[browseceline]

Sorry but... when did she promise an extraordinary concert? All she said is that she hoped her fans enjoyed the show. And because she doesnt sing songs you cant listen to them? Guess you cant listen to her deep cuts either then. And yeah, performing pre-recorded songs for high prices.... like every single legend does and has the right to

No many songs are prerecorded and no it is not fair and of course I like the deep cuts! But there is only one in this tour: if you ask me to. But the rest is copy paste las vegas and previous tours. This tour should have been different and first and foremost to promote her new album but she keeps stuck in the 90s. That formula works, yes, but she does not have to do much for that, lazy formula. And okay yes it is a beautiful stage but I rather see a blank stage with an interesting setlist than all the glitter and glamour and this setlist.

 

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[AdrienneM]

No many songs are prerecorded and no it is not fair and of course I like the deep cuts! But there is only one in this tour: if you ask me to. But the rest is copy paste las vegas and previous tours. This tour should have been different and first and foremost to promote her new album but she keeps stuck in the 90s. That formula works, yes, but she does not have to do much for that, lazy formula. And okay yes it is a beautiful stage but I rather see a blank stage with an interesting setlist than all the glitter and glamour and this setlist.

 

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A setlist in total of 25 songs (20 when in the medley) only 6 songs have lipped elements, only 2 being fully lip synched, the rest all being partially, All by Myself only two notes, TPOL has the full opening verse, My Heart Will Go on all live except the climax and Its All Coming Back to Me Now outro. Thats 24% of the show having lipped moments and in reality, added up in pure minutes, its 14 minutes 30 seconds of pure lip synching in a 1 hour 45 minute show... yeh... but okay. It has 2 released singles as well as all necessary hits, should be more than 2 but what we can do? Yall all begged, moaned, complained and threw tantrums about basic staging, so she ups the ante and gives incredible visuals and a great stage set up, performing a deep cut, a not-performed-in-22-years hit and even a rare French song in an English set list, but its still not enough... honestly i give up, and im sure Celine would too reading all this ungrateful foolery that this forum generates sometimes

[LukeD]

The setlist isn't even as bad as most of you make it out to be. It's good enough to please the masses, and that's exactly what TC is going for with this tour. The sad reality is that most of the American general public does not want to hear her new songs, they want all of the classics. It's just something we have to deal with. We also have to keep in mind that these are people that haven't seen Celine perform in 10+ years.

She can still sing ALL her classics and add songs from Courage to the tour. Here:

 

Classics in United States

 

1.Where Does My Heart Beat Now

2.Beauty And The Beast

3.If You Asked Me To

4.Love Can Move Mountains

5.The Power Of Love

6.Because You Loved Me

7.It's All Coming Back To Me Now

8.All By Myself

9.My Heart Will Go On

10.To Love You More

11.That's The Way It Is

12.A New Day Has Come

13.I'm Alive

14.I Drove All Night

 

She could ABSOLUTELY add 6 songs from Courage for a set-list of 20. She wants to sing a cover? Fine! She could sing 5 songs from Courage! But only 2? Ridiculous. Sorry.

[sarit_celine]

Those fans that keep protecting her lame approach, please stop its behind pathetic at this stage.

Her team and her lies about everything and promised hills and heavens.

 

She IS ONLY FOR THE MONEY NOW, I will keep think that until she will PROVE she really cares

for HER OWN NEW music AND TOUR and DIE HARD FANS, and do something really creative and exciting

with her music career.

 

Sadly I lost even the interest in her new album, given the absolute ignoration aften six long years.

SHE NEEDS NEW MANAGEMENT. Rene turns around in his grave, she kills the legacy he created, what the heck happened to her.

She can't hold the stick from two sides! with how she is behaving who can understand why she is even keep performing

another greatest hits tour.

STOP TO DISRESPECT YOUR DIEHARD FANS.

[browseceline]

Those fans that keep protecting her lame approach, please stop its behind pathetic at this stage.

Her team and her lies about everything and promised hills and heavens.

 

She IS ONLY FOR THE MONEY NOW, I will keep think that until she will PROVE she really cares

for HER OWN NEW music AND TOUR and DIE HARD FANS, and do something really creative and exciting

with her music career.

 

Sadly I lost even the interest in her new album, given the absolute ignoration aften six long years.

SHE NEEDS NEW MANAGEMENT. Rene turns around in his grave, she kills the legacy he created, what the heck happened to her.

She can't hold the stick from two sides! with how she is behaving who can understand why she is even keep performing

another greatest hits tour.

STOP TO DISRESPECT YOUR DIEHARD FANS.

amen!!!!!!

 

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[dyusha]

Not trying to chew my cabbage twice here, but I cannot picture her signing The Prayer and Look At Us Now in the same show. The album and the tour are designed for two completely different audiences and should not be intermixed. I’m surprised they included any of the new songs at all

[sarit_celine]

amen!!!!!!

 

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She will sit before the cameras and will have shame to lie "I hope I don't dissapoint my fans"

[browseceline]

Not trying to chew my cabbage twice here, but I cannot picture her signing The Prayer and Look At Us Now in the same show. The album and the tour are designed for two completely different audiences and should not be intermixed. I’m surprised they included any of the new songs at all

Again- change the title of the tour because then people know what to. Expect! This is fooling the diehard fans. If it is a greatest hits tour, then call it that way

 

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[AdrienneM]

Those fans that keep protecting her lame approach, please stop its behind pathetic at this stage.

Her team and her lies about everything and promised hills and heavens.

 

She IS ONLY FOR THE MONEY NOW, I will keep think that until she will PROVE she really cares

for HER OWN NEW music AND TOUR and DIE HARD FANS, and do something really creative and exciting

with her music career.

 

Sadly I lost even the interest in her new album, given the absolute ignoration aften six long years.

SHE NEEDS NEW MANAGEMENT. Rene turns around in his grave, she kills the legacy he created, what the heck happened to her.

She can't hold the stick from two sides! with how she is behaving who can understand why she is even keep performing

another greatest hits tour.

STOP TO DISRESPECT YOUR DIEHARD FANS.

 

IN 4 YEARS SHES DONE 2 DEEP CUT FUELLED FAN SERVICE TOURS,A TOUR TO MAKE UP FOR HER CANCELLED 2014 TOUR, RELEASED 2 ALBUMS IN TWO LANGUAGES AAAAAAAAAAND FINISHED VEGAS AND STARTED A NEW WORLD TOUR WHAT MORE DO YALL WANT JESUS GOD GIVE IT A REST!!!

[Celine Fan 77]

Not trying to chew my cabbage twice here, but I cannot picture her signing The Prayer and Look At Us Now in the same show. The album and the tour are designed for two completely different audiences and should not be intermixed. I'm surprised they included any of the new songs at all

 

Then they shouldn't have given the same title to the album and the tour

[browseceline]

 

IN 4 YEARS SHES DONE 2 DEEP CUT FUELLED FAN SERVICE TOURS,A TOUR TO MAKE UP FOR HER CANCELLED 2014 TOUR, RELEASED 2 ALBUMS IN TWO LANGUAGES AAAAAAAAAAND FINISHED VEGAS AND STARTED A NEW WORLD TOUR WHAT MORE DO YALL WANT JESUS GOD GIVE IT A REST!!!

She is really commercial that is how I see it. She knows exactly what she is doing and what works and what not but I am loosing interest and understand that not everyone sees her in this magic light like you do.. Sorry

 

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[mb011]

Want her to sing the new songs she published, on the album called Courage, which is also the name of the world tour. Otherwise I'd be fine with Celine Live 2019/2020. I'd know what I would be getting for my hard earned money. More or less what I've seen in 2017.

[browseceline]

Want her to sing the new songs she published, on the album called Courage, which is also the name of the world tour. Otherwise I'd be fine with Celine Live 2019/2020. I'd know what I would be getting for my hard earned money. More or less what I've seen in 2017.

Yes and sadly I already spend it

 

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[Danystar]

 

They updated the description of the playlist in Apple Music to say “Listen to your favorite songs from the Courage World Tour Setlist so far.” Which makes me somewhat Hope at some point in the distant future they may add more? Flying on my own and lying down are on the playlist, so who knows.

 

Apple Music playlist I like much better than really set list☺️

[Kyle_Jared]

I take a break from this place due to the complaining.. kinda gives me a kick though lol.

 

for all the bitching on here, the fans and concert goers are LOVING the setlist.

 

I gotta say i've fallen in love with Your the Voice. Its infectious--and timely! Played on my wireless bluetooth at home--man i can't image how good it must be live!

[Danystar]

Scott promised us many surprises and an unforgettable show. Celine hoped not to disappoint us. But what we saw did not live up to expectations. Another Vegas is just in a different order and there are many covers that can be replaced with her songs ...

 

TCWT was wonderful and fresh after 5 years Vegas run. Best opening ever, hits medley, All by myself is WOW and 6 song from new album.

 

I hope they hear us at least to the European leg of the tour and stop cutting songs. It’s clear that the songs that might be difficult for her to sing now (Reason, Lying down) are gone, but even a pre record would suit me if I could hear them every show.

 

I’m listening to the Courage World Tour Apple Music playlist now and I understand how I miss this wonderful strong voice !!!

Edited January 10, 2020 at 02:34 PM by Danystar

[LukeD]

Not trying to chew my cabbage twice here, but I cannot picture her signing The Prayer and Look At Us Now in the same show. The album and the tour are designed for two completely different audiences and should not be intermixed. I'm surprised they included any of the new songs at all

IMO you need to watch the TCWT DVD again. She magically incorporated various musical styles in an amazing show. The Prayer was there. Fade Away was there. Eyes On Me was there. Her catalog hits were there. Iconic covers were there. Everyone was happy. This turned out to be her most successful album tour ever. Edited January 10, 2020 at 03:38 PM by LukeD