Céline Dion Live 2018 (tour) - Official Topic

[DionFanAlways]

stop the ageism. What would you know about hospitals?

The latest antagonist to the forum perhaps?

[gafsa]

 

The latest antagonist to the forum perhaps?

 

you read my mind 😂

[québecflower]

The latest antagonist to the forum perhaps?

i think it is more a reinvention, or a form of reincarnation. the thing to hope is that each incarnation is supposed to bring more knowledge to the soul.

[Dion2000]

 

 

Bigger venue? Maybe smaller venue.. Look at her Japan concert this October.. Chuo Gymnasium.

 

 

Mariahs performing outside where as Celine is performing in a smaller inside venue. Mariahs concert seating plan is also bigger than Celines

[Dion2000]

 

Again, this will not effect her vocal cords. Where are you getting this from?

 

The middle ear opens and closes when we cough, sneeze, chew, breathe. Its also connected to the vocal chords hense why every blog is saying its difficult to sing. The Eustachian tube connects to both ears and the vocal chords look at a diagram. This is biology at is simplest. Yes she will hear the echo but further that the incision will be made in her throat to reach the tube, having to go thorough her chords to reach the tube. Studying at the UOWS for Laryngeal and Epioral physiology comes in handy. Being 18 does not make me stupid.

 

Heres a link to a whole description to prove it : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMHT0024848/

[Dion2000]

 

Yes I’m wondering also. I’ve had 11 ear surgeries myself... I talked as soon as the general anesthesia wore off and they weren’t affected. Sure they weren’t as delicate at this surgery, but still.

 

This is the eustachian tube, its extremely vital to producing liquid, air, and keeping pressure even in the nasal cavity and the air chambers to the throat, vocal chords and trachea open.

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

 

Mariahs performing outside where as Celine is performing in a smaller inside venue. Mariahs concert seating plan is also bigger than Celines

 

Even performing outside. Céline’s concert is bigger than Mariah’s. Remember her concert last year? The venues are big.

[brendanm999]

 

 

Even performing outside. Céline’s concert is bigger than Mariah’s. Remember her concert last year? The venues are big.

We’re talking about the Indonesia venues right? Because Mariah’s is larger.

[rhapsodion]

 

 

The middle ear opens and closes when we cough, sneeze, chew, breathe. Its also connected to the vocal chords hense why every blog is saying its difficult to sing. The Eustachian tube connects to both ears and the vocal chords look at a diagram. This is biology at is simplest. Yes she will hear the echo but further that the incision will be made in her throat to reach the tube, having to go thorough her chords to reach the tube. Studying at the UOWS for Laryngeal and Epioral physiology comes in handy. Being 18 does not make me stupid.

 

Heres a link to a whole description to prove it : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMHT0024848/

 

I don't deny she may get a dry throat right after the surgery, if her surgeon chooses to do the procedure through her nose and mouth as her mouth will need to be opened throughout the procedure. But an incision will be made in her throat?

Edited April 6, 2018 at 10:06 PM by rhapsodion

[DionFanAlways]

The middle ear opens and closes when we cough, sneeze, chew, breathe. Its also connected to the vocal chords hense why every blog is saying its difficult to sing. The Eustachian tube connects to both ears and the vocal chords look at a diagram. This is biology at is simplest. Yes she will hear the echo but further that the incision will be made in her throat to reach the tube, having to go thorough her chords to reach the tube. Studying at the UOWS for Laryngeal and Epioral physiology comes in handy. Being 18 does not make me stupid.

 

Heres a link to a whole description to prove it : https://www.ncbi.nlm...th/PMHT0024848/

Sorry but NO. Yes the Eustachian tube does connect the middle ear to the throat (actually the Nasopharynx) but it DOES NOT effect the vocal cords. Yes the ET drains into the throat, again the region of the throat is the Nasopharynx, but NOT the vocal cords. The vocal cords are located in the Larynx, not the esophagus. (The tube leading to the stomach.) If the ET drained into the larynx you would choke on the occasional mucous and fluid that it drains from the middle ear.

The access is obtained through the nasal cavity and not through the mouth or throat. Again the vocal cords are NOT touched.

 

A quick little A&P session for y'all.

[DionFanAlways]

This is the eustachian tube, its extremely vital to producing liquid, air, and keeping pressure even in the nasal cavity and the air chambers to the throat, vocal chords and trachea open.

NO! The ET does NOT "produce" liquid, just the opposite, it drains liquid. (if any)

[gafsa]

We’re talking about the Indonesia venues right? Because Mariah’s is larger.

 

from what I've read, Lumbini park where mariah concert will be held is about 4500 m2, while sentul convention centre where celine concert will be held is 22.000 m2

[jpatdeleon09]

We’re talking about the Indonesia venues right? Because Mariah’s is larger.

 

Oh.. is it about Indonesia? If it’s only indonesia then, Ok

[Javito]

1. Mariahs show will be as always sub par and far less grand than Celines.

 

2. Celine has to transport a 31 peice orchestra, her entire family, RC's friends.

 

Wrong, Céline doesn't take the 31 musicians (or whatever is the exact number) to the tour, but only a part of them. If she had to take all the personnel taking part on the Vegas stage, the tour prices would be prohibitive (more than what they are). She would need to hire local performers for each venue to reduce costs!

 

And last but not least, I hate to think they keep inflating her prices tour after tour so as to cover all the costs of bringing her entourage of family, children and friends of their children with her. Because surely RC's friends that came to Paris last summer they were invited with all costs covered when they stayed in the same hotel as Céline on Paris the last summer tour. And who is paying that stay? WE are paying for that, the fans. And i'm paying to see a Celine Dion concert, I'm not paying the vacations of half her brothers and sisters and let alone RC's friends

 

I hope she takes care of this things and the image she portrays when she brings and invites a procession of people with her while she's working and that RC doesn't bring his friends on vacation for the next tour with them in the same hotel on an open bar basis, because otherwise, I'm sure the press will start making comments, and with good reason.

 

She can do what she wants with her money, I hear you say. Yes, absolutely he can. But one thing is to bring her children with her while she's on tour, and another different thing is invite her children's friends on a free vacation "everything included" on the most expensive hotel while you're asking your loyal fans to pay 200-600 euros for a ticket to spot you on the arena from a far distance because all the good seats on the first rows are either included in prohibitive VIP packages or are already given to sponsors and people from the media who (most of them) don't even care to be there (like I witnessed in London last summer)

Edited April 7, 2018 at 10:10 AM by Javito

[Chula]

Wrong, Céline doesn't take the 31 musicians (or whatever is the exact number) to the tour, but only a part of them. If she had to take all the personnel taking part on the Vegas stage, the tour prices would be prohibitive (more than what they are). She would need to hire local performers for each venue to reduce costs!

 

And last but not least, I hate to think they keep inflating her prices tour after tour so as to cover all the costs of bringing her entourage of family, children and friends of their children with her. Because surely RC's friends that came to Paris last summer they were invited with all costs covered when they stayed in the same hotel as Céline on Paris the last summer tour. And who is paying that stay? WE are paying for that, the fans. And i'm paying to see a Celine Dion concert, I'm not paying the vacations of half her brothers and sisters and let alone RC's friends

 

I hope she takes care of this things and the image she portrays when she brings and invites a procession of people with her while she's working and that RC doesn't bring his friends on vacation for the next tour with them in the same hotel on an open bar basis, because otherwise, I'm sure the press will start making comments, and with good reason.

 

She can do what she wants with her money, I hear you say. Yes, absolutely he can. But one thing is to bring her children with her while she's on tour, and another different thing is invite her children's friends on a free vacation "everything included" on the most expensive hotel while you're asking your loyal fans to pay 200-600 euros for a ticket to spot you on the arena from a far distance because all the good seats on the first rows are either included in prohibitive VIP packages or are already given to sponsors and people from the media who (most of them) don't even care to be there (like I witnessed in London last summer)

 

How did you know fans paid for RC's friends?

[Lexi]

Sorry but NO. Yes the Eustachian tube does connect the middle ear to the throat (actually the Nasopharynx) but it DOES NOT effect the vocal cords. Yes the ET drains into the throat, again the region of the throat is the Nasopharynx, but NOT the vocal cords. The vocal cords are located in the Larynx, not the esophagus. (The tube leading to the stomach.) If the ET drained into the larynx you would choke on the occasional mucous and fluid that it drains from the middle ear.

The access is obtained through the nasal cavity and not through the mouth or throat. Again the vocal cords are NOT touched.

 

A quick little A&P session for y'all.

 

True about the first part about the anatomy.

But I don’t know if she’s going to be intubated during the surgery, or just will have assisted breathing by a mask.

The surgeries I witnessed during my internships, were all with intubation, but these were quite major surgeries.

This one Céline is undergoing, might be not a major one, and maybe quickly done, I truly don’t know.

Anyway, if she is going to be intubated, the tube definately will pass the vocal chords, and yes, then she really needs to take rest to those chords, if we want to hear her diamond voice.

So let’s hope they find a way to assist her breathing during the surgery, eithout affecting the chords at all.

[Javito]

How did you know fans paid for RC's friends?

 

They stayed in Céline's hotel with RC, the Royal Monceau in Paris, for some days, same as all her family and personal staff, and they arrived to Paris with RC and his uncle Alain the same day (some days after Céline got to Paris). Do you think RC would ask his friends to go on vacation with him and pay to stay on the same hotel as him, a hotel whose average prices range between 800 and 20.000 euros per night? Of course that went on the house (mum pays!)

Edited April 7, 2018 at 12:05 PM by Javito

[brendanm999]

 

 

from what I've read, Lumbini park where mariah concert will be held is about 4500 m2, while sentul convention centre where celine concert will be held is 22.000 m2

It’s not Lumbini Park. It’s Borobudur Temple which is basically an open field. So the capacity can potentially be much larger. Sentul Intl CC can hold around 10,000.

[biscuit2]

Wrong, Céline doesn't take the 31 musicians (or whatever is the exact number) to the tour, but only a part of them. If she had to take all the personnel taking part on the Vegas stage, the tour prices would be prohibitive (more than what they are). She would need to hire local performers for each venue to reduce costs!

 

And last but not least, I hate to think they keep inflating her prices tour after tour so as to cover all the costs of bringing her entourage of family, children and friends of their children with her. Because surely RC's friends that came to Paris last summer they were invited with all costs covered when they stayed in the same hotel as Céline on Paris the last summer tour. And who is paying that stay? WE are paying for that, the fans. And i'm paying to see a Celine Dion concert, I'm not paying the vacations of half her brothers and sisters and let alone RC's friends

 

I hope she takes care of this things and the image she portrays when she brings and invites a procession of people with her while she's working and that RC doesn't bring his friends on vacation for the next tour with them in the same hotel on an open bar basis, because otherwise, I'm sure the press will start making comments, and with good reason.

 

She can do what she wants with her money, I hear you say. Yes, absolutely he can. But one thing is to bring her children with her while she's on tour, and another different thing is invite her children's friends on a free vacation "everything included" on the most expensive hotel while you're asking your loyal fans to pay 200-600 euros for a ticket to spot you on the arena from a far distance because all the good seats on the first rows are either included in prohibitive VIP packages or are already given to sponsors and people from the media who (most of them) don't even care to be there (like I witnessed in London last summer)

 

Come on Javito, stop doing "rabietas"' because RC come with 2 friends... Seriously ?

[DionFanAlways]

True about the first part about the anatomy.

But I don’t know if she’s going to be intubated during the surgery, or just will have assisted breathing by a mask.

The surgeries I witnessed during my internships, were all with intubation, but these were quite major surgeries.

This one Céline is undergoing, might be not a major one, and maybe quickly done, I truly don’t know.

Anyway, if she is going to be intubated, the tube definately will pass the vocal chords, and yes, then she really needs to take rest to those chords, if we want to hear her diamond voice.

So let’s hope they find a way to assist her breathing during the surgery, eithout affecting the chords at all.

Yes. Hopefully they'll use a LMA instead of a ETT. That's what I'm hoping for. In the States, they try to use this for minor procedures. I had posted waayyyy earlier that she better have a great anesthesia team.

 

If Dion2000 is talking about intubation then he needs to clarify his posts.

[Javito]

I wouldn't if she had a fair process selling the tickets for the fans, including TeamCeline's misleading procedures saying we are offered the best seats before anyone else, when it's not true, because the best seats are already given to people from the media and reserved to VIP packages whose prices and content are more than questionable as you know.

 

And then ask not less than 200 euro to see her from the 5th row and beyond, because otherwise all you're offered are VIP packages that triplicate that price, for maybe a 2nd or 3rd row. I don't say there are no seats available on the 1st row, but maybe if you are lucky you are offered one after trying for 3 hours, of maybe 5/10 seats released off the VIP exclusive seats that are already taken. That's not much fair for the true fans that want to see her as close as possible, right?

 

She became too exclusive on tour (they removed the M&Gs as you know, except for the VIP people from the press and media of course ), but the tour offers too little compared with her fellow artists (the production and stage is quite simple as you know)

 

So when these things are organised and offered in such obscure procedures, and when they ask the prices they're asking to see her on tour, and then you see how many people she brings with her on tour, some of them just going on vacation, you start to wonder whether the money she's asking for tickets is really justified only for the tour, of if there are kind of "inflated" with some extra costs to cover for the convenience and comfort of others coming with her during the tour

Edited April 7, 2018 at 12:44 PM by Javito

[gafsa]

It’s not Lumbini Park. It’s Borobudur Temple which is basically an open field. So the capacity can potentially be much larger. Sentul Intl CC can hold around 10,000.

 

Oh I don't know if that's the case, but here's what the promoteur said "CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In Concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November 2018. Taman Lumbini, Candi Borobudur, Jawa Tengah Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

Translated " CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November, Lumbini Park, Borobudur Tample, East Java Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

BTW Lumbini park is in Borobudur temple area that usually held a party, some national celebrities had a wedding party at Lumbini Park.

Edited April 7, 2018 at 02:25 PM by gafsa

[wjd]

Mariah Carey will have a concert in my country Indonesia in Novemeber, the ticket price is from 750.000 rupiah to 5 million rupiah, just to compare, Celine's ticket range is from 1,5 million rupiah to 25 million rupiah. I'm so pissed.

 

Can I ask how you know the ticket prices? They aren't announced yet for Mariah are they?

[Chula]

Philipines, Indonesia, Japan, NZ and Aussie are so lucky to go to Celine and Mariah concerts this year!!!!

[jpatdeleon09]

Oh I don't know if that's the case, but here's what the promoteur said "CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In Concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November 2018. Taman Lumbini, Candi Borobudur, Jawa Tengah Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

Translated " CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November, Lumbini Park, Borobudur Tample, East Java Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

BTW Lumbini park is in Borobudur temple area that usually held a party, some national celebrities had a wedding party at Lumbini Park.

 

Lumbini Park

[angelil78]

They stayed in Céline's hotel with RC, the Royal Monceau in Paris, for some days, same as all her family and personal staff, and they arrived to Paris with RC and his uncle Alain the same day (some days after Céline got to Paris). Do you think RC would ask his friends to go on vacation with him and pay to stay on the same hotel as him, a hotel whose average prices range between 800 and 20.000 euros per night? Of course that went on the house (mum pays!)

 

I actually think his two friends got to come to Paris because they were in the Black and White video, that this was how they got paid. I don't think she rented more rooms because of that. I think she always rents the same amount of floors/rooms at the hotel.

[gafsa]

 

 

Can I ask how you know the ticket prices? They aren't announced yet for Mariah are they?

 

no, they not officially announced yet. It's just a reply from a concert promoter, but usually they never wrong.

[smash]

Sorry but NO. Yes the Eustachian tube does connect the middle ear to the throat (actually the Nasopharynx) but it DOES NOT effect the vocal cords. Yes the ET drains into the throat, again the region of the throat is the Nasopharynx, but NOT the vocal cords. The vocal cords are located in the Larynx, not the esophagus. (The tube leading to the stomach.) If the ET drained into the larynx you would choke on the occasional mucous and fluid that it drains from the middle ear.

The access is obtained through the nasal cavity and not through the mouth or throat. Again the vocal cords are NOT touched.

 

A quick little A&P session for y'all.

 

You go girl :thumbsup2:

[brendanm999]

 

 

Oh I don't know if that's the case, but here's what the promoteur said "CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In Concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November 2018. Taman Lumbini, Candi Borobudur, Jawa Tengah Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

Translated " CONFIRMED!!! MARIAH CAREY Live In concert Borobudur Symphony 2018. 6 November, Lumbini Park, Borobudur Tample, East Java Indonesia. #MariahCareyIndonesia #borobudur,"

 

BTW Lumbini park is in Borobudur temple area that usually held a party, some national celebrities had a wedding party at Lumbini Park.

It’s on her official website.

[gafsa]

It’s on her official website.

 

If you say so. Maybe the promoter have no idea.

Edited April 7, 2018 at 11:47 PM by gafsa