Céline Dion: Summer Tour 2016 - Official Topic

[I Drove All Night!]

Is the swinging pocket watch new in EUS? I never noticed it in the videos I watched before, but it could just be due to the quality or angle that I didn't notice...

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHHWedLhQig/

[DionFanAlways]

I see both sides of the Vegas debate and I have to agree that she is stuck and stifled. I just keep going back to what Scott told Carlos. Will that stop me from going and seeing her and singing my lungs out? No! however if she says one more time that it's our fault that she keeps singing the same thing..... Edited June 26, 2016 at 02:59 PM by DionFanAlways

[québecflower]

She did it all for René. I cannot say much more because I'm not the one who's been told this and I respect his wish not to reveal the source sorry. But believe it's 100% true. We always think Céline is an open book and honest with everything. Well not with Vegas.

 

She only has slipped very little hints to show her anguish with this particular topic:

 

1) In the A New Day DVD documentary, when she said she really wanted to cancel and step back from the initial contract. Even before it all started in 2003.

2) In 2005 during the promo of "On ne change pas" and the welcome she was given in France. The way she cried in the TV shows when they all said she was missed. She had to bite her tongue not to say she really was looking forward to coming to France because she was not happy in Vegas with that Vegas show. It was absolutely ex-haus-ting.

 

Just read between the lines in the video of Star Academie in 2005, when she was cheered and welcomed. The song "Je ne vous oublie pas" means much more to her than we know, its autobiographical. You don't need to be a foreteller to see that she wasn't happy at that time.

 

She did it for René, René wanted her to be in Vegas. René wanted to win millions with that, not Céline. Céline wanted stability for her family, yes, but not at whatever price. She's absolutely sick of the Vegas shows, not about the stability it gave her. But she could have found that stability in many other ways without condemning her to be tied in a sole place for years and years to come. That's not a happy situation, when you cannot be free to sing and do the things you want to do, and you're surrounded just by a team of people who only care about the business side and milking her.

 

 

 

 

It's just not about the amount of shows, it's about the situation it came around. I won't develop more, but she did it all for René. Not because she personally wanted to

since you have no proof, i,ll take all that with a grain of salt. I don't believe things just like that, i'm like saint-Thomas. I don't particulaery love the Vegas thing, i think she seems more happy now in Paris. but who would not be. You have the choice to sing for people who really really love you, in the most beautiful city or sing in Vegas for people who are fans but let's put it this way, doesn't show their appreciation the same way, singing songs that are not as good as the french ones...

 

Celine got enough character to say no. She would not have passed more than 10 years in Vegas being forced to. But what you say can be true , just that as i said there's no prood of that and what i just said just makes a lot of sense also. At this moment, it is just opinions.

[NicoNV]

I think Vegas is whatever people want it to be for her.

 

Some fans love Vegas and want to believe she loves it. I think some fans hate Vegas and want to believe she hates it. Just like there are fans who want her to do a world tour and choose to believe it is her secret wish (despite everything she has said over the years). I think the people who knew the truth about how she feels about Vegas are Celine and Rene. Even if she uncharacteristically ranted one day (everyone has a bad day from time to time) to someone close enough to talk to her but not close enough to keep a secret.

I am not doubting anyone's word here in and of itself, but I can't imagine (considering how guarded she is) that she would be so bold and open about saying she was desperately unhappy with Rene and the entire situation to someone that would leak it (I would like to believe a person that leaks things wouldn't be that close in her inner circle. But, sadly, that may not be the case). To echo Quebecflower, I take it with a grain of salt.

 

I really doubt fans will ever truly know how she feels about Vegas. We all just believe what we want and in turn try to make it about what we want.

 

I do agree with a prior poster about the fact she likely would have retired after RC without Vegas. I am sure Vegas had a lot of positives and negatives for her. But, she is stronger than people give her credit and Rene wasn't a tyrant.

 

 

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Edited June 26, 2016 at 03:15 PM by NicoNV

[Gulenkov]

If someone have a look in all the setlists of all tours after 1993, he will think than the 2 greatest hits of Celine are MHWGO and LCMM... It is ridiculous that we have to tolerate this song since 1993.

Ugh... Well, MHWGO was released in 1997. And I personally love it. Still. It's not like I've been listening to it since it came out because at that time I wasn't even born, but now, when she does it live, I can tolerate it quite well. By the way, it is her greatest hit for the general public

But in general her English setlist should be revamped significantly.

Edited June 26, 2016 at 03:15 PM by Gulenkov

[celine4evauk]

Meanwhile, back on topic lol

 

When's the next show? Tuesday isn't it? Anyone on here going??

[NicoNV]

Meanwhile, back on topic lol

 

When's the next show? Tuesday isn't it? Anyone on here going??

 

 

When is the last show? Is she straight to Montreal after for another run of shows? The tour sounds amazing and fun. I wish I could have been there! I am looking forward to the new album.

Edited June 26, 2016 at 03:17 PM by NicoNV

[yellowrose14]

I don't think she felt forced. She trusted Rene and enjoyed making him happy. She probably did see the value in staying put so that she could have a home life versus constant planes and hotels. She probably did enjoy the challenges and exoticism of AND (remember she had been really impressed by Cirque de Soleil which inspired it), but y'all are right. The length and difficulties of that run exhausted her and I am not sure she would have come back if it was totally up to her. That said, she seems to be happy where her family is and she probably does enjoy aspects of LV because she has been there so long.

 

It will be interesting to see what she does...

 

 

 

(resolving to stay on topic now! Sorry)

Edited June 26, 2016 at 03:21 PM by yellowrose14

[TiagoFragoso05]

since you have no proof, i,ll take all that with a grain of salt. I don't believe things just like that, i'm like saint-Thomas. I don't particulaery love the Vegas thing, i think she seems more happy now in Paris. but who would not be. You have the choice to sing for people who really really love you, in the most beautiful city or sing in Vegas for people who are fans but let's put it this way, doesn't show their appreciation the same way, singing songs that are not as good as the french ones...

 

Celine got enough character to say no. She would not have passed more than 10 years in Vegas being forced to. But what you say can be true , just that as i said there's no prood of that and what i just said just makes a lot of sense also. At this moment, it is just opinions.

 

I think she feels happy when she feel the real love from real fans who go to watch her, in vegas its idk it never looked "real" to real fans all the time.

 

I would not say forced to, but she loved and loves Rene a lot like linda perry said "she doesn't know how to say no" it really brought to this

 

https://youtu.be/rbxCCLiC2eI

 

And yes we do not know! It can be or not

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mike_z]

I was thinking...

 

One of the reasons for her to be singing so many songs from 1F&4T is that she's singing one song by each one of the "types"/guys.

 

Arzel= Ne Bouge Pas

Benzi= Apprends-moi

Veneruso= Le Vol d'un Ange

Jean Jacques Goldman= Et je t'aime encore

Robert Goldman = Valse Adieu

[artistman2007]

When was the part when celine was eating marshmallows

[mike_z]

Another thing I was thinking... I hope we do get another song from JJG and some footage of her with JJG in studio recording now that she's in Paris. It would really make a difference knowing she's recorded some songs in Paris instead of a entirely Vegas-made album.

[Javito]

Think we all know she would have retired once she had RC if she'd had her way.

 

In 2001? No, she would never have retired then, since she always knew she was coming back! And she did in 2002. What she didn't want is the marathonian contract René selfishly signed for her in 2003. And she didn't really want to come back in 2011 again to the same thing. But in a way she feels she owes her career to René, she's her "masterpiece", so in a way she doesn't know how to say just "NO". She pleased René all the time

 

since you have no proof, i,ll take all that with a grain of salt. I don't believe things just like that, i'm like saint-Thomas. I don't particulaery love the Vegas thing, i think she seems more happy now in Paris. but who would not be. You have the choice to sing for people who really really love you, in the most beautiful city or sing in Vegas for people who are fans but let's put it this way, doesn't show their appreciation the same way, singing songs that are not as good as the french ones...

 

Celine got enough character to say no. She would not have passed more than 10 years in Vegas being forced to. But what you say can be true , just that as i said there's no prood of that and what i just said just makes a lot of sense also. At this moment, it is just opinions.

 

I have proof, but I won't say where this comes from because I respect his and her wish not to reveal more. I didn't come here to boast nor to show off anything I know that you don't. It's something that for me it was plain clear since the start, and it was confirmed to me some days ago. You take the info and make with it what you want of course, I'm not forcing anyone to believe this, and the people who know me in this forum they know that what I share is with all my goodwill (otherwise I would have kept for myself many unreleased things I found of Céline, either pictures, lyrics and songs). But to think that Céline tells everything she thinks all the time and that she never conceals anything is a way too naïve judgement. She has her secrets like everyone else, and with the Vegas thing she has been more than polite and diplomatic. The patience the girl has got. Vegas has been a rough topic for her and even painful.

 

Again, she did it all for René, not to disappoint him. And when you're in love, so in love like she was with him, you do many things you don't really want to (am I discovering something new here? )

 

Just pay attention to this current summer tour. It's enough to see her eyes and how she comes alive everytime she comes to Europe and escapes Vegas.

 

It's enough to see that for the first time in decades we had a setlist full of songs she has NEVER performed before -many of them after 13 years- because SHE chose them (this confirmed by Scott Price, thanks to Carlos). René always had it his way. For years and years. Now is the turn of Céline.

 

I wish she could cancel the rest of shows she has in Vegas and start doing what she really wants. The songs we are watching her perform these days for the first time is one of those things

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc3BBE3uUxc

Edited June 26, 2016 at 03:56 PM by Javito

[Javito]

I always felt that Vegas was Rene's dream and Celine felt good about making it possible for him.

 

Vegas was a dream René and Céline built together in 2000/2001, but what it became in 2003 and the contract behind was far from what Celine wanted, for sure. And Céline had little to do with the extension in 2006 and the comeback in 2011

Edited June 26, 2016 at 04:00 PM by Javito

[celine4evauk]

 

 

In 2001? No, she would never have retired then, since she always knew she was coming back! And she did in 2002. What she didn't want is the marathonian contract René selfishly signed for her in 2003. And she didn't really want to come back in 2011 again to the same thing. But in a way she feels she owes her career to René, she's her "masterpiece", so in a way she doesn't know how to say just "NO". She pleased René all the time

 

 

 

I have proof, but I won't say where this comes from because I respect his and her wish not to reveal more. I didn't come here to boast nor to show off anything I know that you don't. It's something that for me it was plain clear since the start, and it was confirmed to me some days ago. You take the info and make with it what you want of course, I'm not forcing anyone to believe this, and the people who know me in this forum they know that what I share is with all my goodwill (otherwise I would have kept for myself many unreleased things I found of Céline, either pictures, lyrics and songs). But to think that Céline tells everything she thinks all the time and that she never conceals anything is a way too naïve judgement. She has her secrets like everyone else, and with the Vegas thing she has been more than polite and diplomatic. The patience the girl has got. Vegas has been a rough topic for her and even painful.

 

Again, she did it all for René, not to disappoint him. And when you're in love, so in love like she was with him, you do many things you don't really want to (am I discovering something new here? )

 

Just pay attention to this current summer tour. It's enough to see her eyes and how she comes alive everytime she comes to Europe and escapes Vegas.

 

It's enough to see that for the first time in decades we had a setlist full of songs she has NEVER performed before -many of them after 13 years- because SHE chose them (this confirmed by Scott Price, thanks to Carlos). René always had it his way. For years and years. Now is the turn of Céline.

 

I wish she could cancel the rest of shows she has in Vegas and start doing what she really wants. The songs we are watching her perform these days for the first time is one of those things

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc3BBE3uUxc

 

She said she didn't want to do lv after having RC and wanted to just be a mum. So yes I believe she would have retired. Maybe not forever but definitely for several years. And the second pregnancy would have been tried before any comeback. Just my opinion I suppose.

[nuts2you]

thank you for that Video, I've always wanted to know what they where saying.

[flutefreak]

Is the swinging pocket watch new in EUS? I never noticed it in the videos I watched before, but it could just be due to the quality or angle that I didn't notice...

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHHWedLhQig/

 

That's what I thought too...

[Alex_Incognito]

Oh Jesus. Everyone and their inside info. My birdie tells me her costume in Canada will mirror her nude scenes in DES FLEURS SUR LA NEIGE

[Nmj]

Oh Jesus. Everyone and their inside info. My birdie tells me her costume in Canada will mirror her nude scenes in DES FLEURS SUR LA NEIGE

 

Hahaha... Anything but the penguin outfit.

[nuts2you]

:sofunny: Alex just to funny at times

[Naiomi zhannah]

So Celine didn't have a say for any of the agreements in Las Vegas

[Nmj]

Let's all calm down, Celine has always had as much say as she wanted. The reason she couldn't cancel the first Vegas show would have been because they would've lost 90 MILLION USD. I'm sure Celine and Renè decided as a couple that they would be hurting RC instead of helping him by doing that so they went on with it.

 

If Celine didn't want to be in a Vegas she wouldn't be. She's a stronger person then people make her out to be here.

 

 

[Javito]

Scott did mention something about maybe going to ireland next year also. He also said "it's got to be different than vegas, otherwise what's the point"

 

Glad he takes that attitude and if the past couple days is any indication then I think we are in store for a treat on her next english tour.

 

Ireland?? Come on I'm living in Ireland now, why not now during this summer tour?!

[Javito]

Let's all calm down, Celine has always had as much say as she wanted. The reason she couldn't cancel the first Vegas show would have been because they would've lost 90 MILLION USD. I'm sure Celine and Renè decided as a couple that they would be hurting RC instead of helping him by doing that so they went on with it.

 

If Celine didn't want to be in a Vegas she wouldn't be. She's a stronger person then people make her out to be here.

 

I didn't say she is not strong, but when you're SO in love you can do things you don't want to do, just for the love you have for that person. And love can blind you too

Edited June 26, 2016 at 05:00 PM by Javito

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

Ireland?? Come on I'm living in Ireland now, why not now during this summer tour?!

Ireland to Paris is super cheap with budget airlines. If you really wanted to go, you could have.

[Tyler1991]

 

Ireland to Paris is super cheap with budget airlines. If you really wanted to go, you could have.

 

It was like 30 bucks for me to fly from Paris to dublin last week lol

[Alex_Incognito]

 

 

It was like 30 bucks for me to fly from Paris to dublin last week lol

See! Btw, Tyler, I'm so glad you went. You should come to Montreal. I'll sell you my tickets! Like back in 2011

Edited June 26, 2016 at 05:07 PM by Alex_Incognito

[Javito]

Ireland to Paris is super cheap with budget airlines. If you really wanted to go, you could have.

 

I am not able to. I'm doing a work placement here starting tomorrow. Yeah, I'm so pissed off :down:

Edited June 26, 2016 at 05:13 PM by Javito

[Tyler1991]

 

See! Btw, Tyler, I'm so glad you went. You should come to Montreal. I'll sell you my tickets! Like back in 2011

 

I would love too but my last trip put work in a bind and no way they would let me leave so soon not to mention I'm tired of taking vacations by myself lol

[sfbaysinger]

I think once shows start up again we'll stop talking about this or at least put it in another topic. This is interesting discussion, though. So...could someone tell me what happened with her eating marshmellows onstage last night? inquiring blind people want to know, lol