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What lesson? A lesson should have been taught to that nobody songwriter if Celine and René had completely scrapped the song from the album. They changed the album title after all the fuss but that wasn't enough to the amount of disrespect and false accusations that the guy unfairly threw to Celine.

 

The lesson should have been taught to this guy, not the other way around. It was him who needed to learn to be thankful and not a lier; Celine did nothing wrong here.

 

 

 

Omg, one of her best in her entire English catalogue? I'm happy we all have so varied and different tastes here, because I couldn't disagree more with this song haha :sick: Even the snoozefest When I Fall In Love which I barely listen to is more pleasant to me than WAAF :whee:

 

At that point, contracts with the songwriter had already been signed to have this particular song included on the album. It was supposed to be the title track from the beginning stages of the album’s conception. It was too late to just not include it.

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Even the snoozefest When I Fall In Love which I barely listen to is more pleasant to me than WAAF :whee:

 

For me Water And A Flame is one of those songs that may not translate great on the record but beautifully live. :wub:

 

Was not so impressed when first heard the studio version, but when she sang it at the 2013 Paris concert I fell in love.

Same with Immensité and Si C'Etait A Refaire. :)

 

How lovely that when she sings live certain songs they are more beautiful than the studio output: maybe the arrangement or the acoustic. :hmm: ^_^

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For me Water And A Flame is one of those songs that may not translate great on the record but beautifully live. :wub:

 

Was not so impressed when first heard the studio version, but when she sang it at the 2013 Paris concert I fell in love.

Same with Immensité and Si C'Etait A Refaire. :)

 

How lovely that when she sings live certain songs they are more beautiful than the studio output: maybe the arrangement or the acoustic. :hmm: ^_^

Si c'était à refaire was great in concert, her voice was stonger on it. it was so good. :wub: i want to see it live. It was not there in montreal in 2016. I would wish to see this in the courage tour.
Plus qu'ailleurs , but now Si c'était à refaire , i still love tant de temps....
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So...no new music tomorrow. The Friday before the tour starts. I give up. I really want to trust that Celine and her team have a plan...but I’m starting to worry. Time will tell. Edited by remykyes
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So...no new music tomorrow. The Friday before the tour starts. I give up. I really want to trust that Celine and her team have a plan...but I’m starting to worry. Time will tell.

Ughh!! I know. I feel the same way!!

Nmj Proficient

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What lesson? A lesson should have been taught to that nobody songwriter if Celine and René had completely scrapped the song from the album. They changed the album title after all the fuss but that wasn't enough to the amount of disrespect and false accusations that the guy unfairly threw to Celine.

 

The lesson should have been taught to this guy, not the other way around. It was him who needed to learn to be thankful and not a lier; Celine did nothing wrong here.

 

 

 

Omg, one of her best in her entire English catalogue? I'm happy we all have so varied and different tastes here, because I couldn't disagree more with this song haha :sick: Even the snoozefest When I Fall In Love which I barely listen to is more pleasant to me than WAAF :whee:

 

Heck, even “A Song For You” is better and that one puts me to sleep in 0.57 seconds! Lol

 

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Nmj Proficient

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At that point, contracts with the songwriter had already been signed to have this particular song included on the album. It was supposed to be the title track from the beginning stages of the album’s conception. It was too late to just not include it.

 

They could’ve dropped the song if they wanted, they just didn’t want to.

Celine and René liked the song, why it beats me.

 

If they were obligated to include it and they no longer wanted it, she would’ve never sang it live during promotion which besides LMBTL was sung the most if you don’t count Barnevs little moment to shine with “Incredible” in The Vegas show

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At that point, contracts with the songwriter had already been signed to have this particular song included on the album. It was supposed to be the title track from the beginning stages of the album's conception. It was too late to just not include it.

 

I highly doubt that. You give up the rights to a song so that someone else can record and release it, or you either license a song to another artist. But rarely have I seen a clause where you sign a contract specifically saying where and when a song has to be released, unless it is about a "compilation album" reuniting songs from various artists and then you do specify "this song is to be included in the album xxxxx in tribute to xxxxx to be released X.XX.XX", but those are the few times when a contract says where the song has by force to be included.

 

You get the rights over a song but the when and where this song will be included is subject to change, plans and last minute changes happen all the time in the final tracklist of an album and we've seen how many times songs that were supposed to be released on a specific Celine album, they were finally rejected and were not released until they leaked.

 

So they could have scrapped WAAW on their own right and they had enough reasons to do it. Unless they specifically agreed each other that this song was to be released in the album named *Loved Me Back To Life*, november 2013, but I highly doubt that. That's not an usual practice in music contracts unless it's a song that someone has written *specifically* for an artist and an specific album. Which is not the case with Celine, never has been. She either uses the songs she receives on her imminent new album, or then she saves them for the next one, or some simply get never released.

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So many news about the show and album... don't know where to start.
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I think Celine loved the song so much, that she wanted it to be on the album. That’s why she also sang it live many times, even in 2016 in NY (where she made sure to mention the songwriter lol). She could have sang LMBTL instead and put the spotlight on Sia rather than on Merriweather, but maybe she just felt like singing WAAF. Edited by ryba
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So...no new music tomorrow. The Friday before the tour starts. I give up. I really want to trust that Celine and her team have a plan...but I’m starting to worry. Time will tell.

 

Funny, because I never expected anything after FOMO, and I’m not disappointed. I think it’s pretty clear: they are keeping everything tight-lipped until the tour starts. After that, there’s a chance we’ll get MORE than 1-2 songs, but literally nobody from her team has said anything to support that, so my faith in them is fully intact. “The new approach” also applies to their promotional strategy. I’m no marketing expert, but I can get behind them trying something new out - if other artists are using a similar approach, it’s not failure on her team’s part to mimic that.

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I remember when back in 2012 they had the entire Sans Attendre album available to play for fans on her official website two weeks before its release. Now it’s the exact opposite. Edited by ryba
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I see her team has posted on social media. While it’s showing and hashtagging Celinenunu, it says “Celine starts her world tour next week and after that...” then a wink face. Perhaps they’re trying to tell us a single will be released? I know it doesn’t mean that 100%...am just wondering. I’d think they’d release some sort of first single in September. Especially since they say FOMO was just for the fans.

 

It reminded me of how they released that photo of her in a FOMO shirt before she performed it in Vegas.

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I see her team has posted on social media. While it’s showing and hashtagging Celinenunu, it says “Celine starts her world tour next week and after that...” then a wink face. Perhaps they’re trying to tell us a single will be released? I know it doesn’t mean that 100%...am just wondering. I’d think they’d release some sort of first single in September. Especially since they say FOMO was just for the fans.

 

It reminded me of how they released that photo of her in a FOMO shirt before she performed it in Vegas.

 

I think it was a joke hinting that she’ll tour to Mars, Jupiter, etc as indicated on the back of those shirts.

 

But maybe that’s a strategy — they tease us and make jokes and then drop a single!

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I think it was a joke hinting that she’ll tour to Mars, Jupiter, etc as indicated on the back of those shirts.

 

But maybe that’s a strategy — they tease us and make jokes and then drop a single!

Yeah I’m thinking it was a joke...but we did get that space theme video set so you could be right? But who knows. Not holding my breathe haha

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Surely something is coming very soon..... it can’t be too much longer

 

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Alex_Incognito Rising Star

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When are we going to start taking bets on whether or not we're going to get an album this year?

I can't believe Encore un soir was 3 years ago. And then her releasing Recovering made us think that the album couldn't be much farther away. Here we are. Aging. Aging. Aging. dead.

"People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."

- Céline Dion, 1990

Nmj Proficient

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When are we going to start taking bets on whether or not we're going to get an album this year?

I can't believe Encore un soir was 3 years ago. And then her releasing Recovering made us think that the album couldn't be much farther away. Here we are. Aging. Aging. Aging. dead.

 

It’ll come! “Little by little, month by month, one decade at a time” :D

 

Personally, my money is on 2027!

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I remember when back in 2012 they had the entire Sans Attendre album available to play for fans on her official website two weeks before its release. Now it's the exact opposite.

 

Key words: 2012, two weeks before its release

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Of course the album is coming soon… otherwise they would have to cancel the tour! Oh wait… :lol:
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flutefreak Newbie

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I think it was a joke hinting that she’ll tour to Mars, Jupiter, etc as indicated on the back of those shirts.

 

But maybe that’s a strategy — they tease us and make jokes and then drop a single!

 

I think the same with the tshirts. You may be on to something and also wasn't it rumored that the red set she was on a week or so ago was supposed to be Mars? It could all be connected. Guess we'll find out soon!

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Nmj Proficient

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I think the same with the tshirts. You may be on to something and also wasn't it rumored that the red set she was on a week or so ago was supposed to be Mars? It could all be connected. Guess we'll find out soon!

 

Oh lord, If they make this a Celinenunu tour featuring children dressed in black singing the chorus to LCMM, I’ll bust out laughing!

 

Somehow it wouldn’t surprise me :rolleyes:

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Ororo Munroe Newbie

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Is there somoene on the boat ? Where is the lead single, it’s really time to wake up !
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Xpresso Newbie

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Is there somoene on the boat ? Where is the lead single, it’s really time to wake up !

When the boat hits the iceberg, the single will be out! :D
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Is the new single called Lying Down?

Celine just posted on her Instagram a written photo: are you Lying Down.

Is the new single coming?

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Its what she sang at Carpool so yep, must be the new single

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