"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Nmj]

 

 

You mean month by month, year by year...

 

..... one decade at a time

 

 

[sarit_celine]

..... one decade at a time

 

LMAO !!!!!!

[Javito]

I'm sorry but, tour cast aside, why should we have a first ( or 2sd, 3rd, 4th... if Recovering, Ashes, FOMO or whatever is on the album) single now?

 

"Loved me back to life" (song) was released around this time ...and we saw the outcome.

 

It would be even worse this time around : FOMO lifetime was 1 week. Especially since she starts her tour in 9 days , she won't do any promo right now.

 

Can you imagine releasing the 1st single now , dissapearing after 2 weeks and the album only out in 2 months?

 

Sorry but for once, they are doing the right thing based on mistakes from the past.

There is still at least 2 months before the album release. So there is plenty of time to release a new single!!

Has Adele released her new single yet? No, so calm down and stop patronizing everybody who is not panicking like you do.

 

You need to calm down Dramavito!

 

I'm not panicking and this IS different: Adele is not starting a worldwide tour 2 months (at least) prior the album is released, Celine does. She needs to create some hype and anticipation for that tour! Adele is not starting a tour that nobody has any idea what is going to be about, Celine does, and she is keeping everyone in the dark about the album, the tour, and everything.

 

Is this strategy working? Time will tell. But certainly it's very messed up.

 

Also, doesn't she say she has recorded songs for at least the next 4 albums? Why can't she release one of them until the album comes, right before the release months, to create some more buzz? What's the problem? It's everything soooooo contradictory here :rolleyes:

Edited September 9, 2019 at 06:03 PM by Javito

[mirage]

I really don't get Sony!

Or they give a bonus cd with Christmas song with it

 

 

 

If they don’t release a new single this Friday, good luck.

Probably be in November just in time for AC Stations to ignore her for Christmas music.

[todos]

 

 

If they don’t release a new single this Friday, good luck.

Probably be in November just in time for AC Stations to ignore her for Christmas music.

 

Aren't AC Stadions ignoring her new music for years now?

 

Thus her once loyal radio format stations, the young youtube and streaming audiences and the cd album buying masses are ignoring her....😔

 

Only this forum's members and (I hardly dare to say here...the redheads) are supporting her no matter what.

Edited September 9, 2019 at 06:14 PM by todos

[Nmj]

 

 

Aren't AC Stadions ignoring her new music for years now?

 

Thus her once loyal radio format stations, the young youtube and streaming audiences and the cd album buying masses are ignoring her....😔

 

Only this forum's members and (I hardly dare to say here...the redheads) are supporting her no matter what.

 

AC Radio is her only chance here in the USA and they still always like to release her albums in November when they all go into the Christmas music. Sometimes it’s like they do the stupidest thing they can do on purpose!

[manu23]

I hope I don’t sound arrogant, but some of the whining members seem to be completely clueless about how the more veteran artists work. They might think that Celine is like Camila Cabello or Ariana Grande, new artists at their peaks that have radios playing their singles for months (as they did with Celine in the 90s). Veteran artists release their singles as closer to the album as possible because they and their teams know the singles will have short lives. That´s why Mariah released GTFO on Oct 4 and the album on Nov 16, or Christina released the first single from Liberation on May 3 and the album on Jun 15. Madonna released the first single less than two months before the album and actually promoted it, still it flopped hard. Celine is doing nothing differently from other contemporaries, if anything she is probably doing it better since she sells more (albums and tickets). It a is a waste of time, energy and money try to have a hit single, that´s not going to happen, radios won’t play it (even AC) and younger audiences won’t stream it (Cher Believe won’t happen ever again, music industry is completely different). So when I read comments like “Celine doesn’t care about her music career” or “she doesn’t thrive anymore” when she is one of the hardest working women in the industry (ask fan base of any other female singer from 90s or early 00s what they think about this) I can’t help to think you are clueless.

 

Adele is rumored to release an album in November (first one in 4 years btw), do we know release date? No. Do we know title? No. Do we know producers, direction? No. Do we have single? No. Still people in here demand to know everything about Courage already, I don’t get it really. You will have plenty of time to bash her if there is not video, if the tracklist is short, if the cover photo is not up to your standards, but complaining about what you think might or might not happen in the future is absurd (and repetitive and a bit annoying).

[AdrienneM]

I hope I don’t sound arrogant, but some of the whining members seem to be completely clueless about how the more veteran artists work. They might think that Celine is like Camila Cabello or Ariana Grande, new artists at their peaks that have radios playing their singles for months (as they did with Celine in the 90s). Veteran artists release their singles as closer to the album as possible because they and their teams know the singles will have short lives. That´s why Mariah released GTFO on Oct 4 and the album on Nov 16, or Christina released the first single from Liberation on May 3 and the album on Jun 15. Madonna released the first single less than two months before the album and actually promoted it, still it flopped hard. Celine is doing nothing differently from other contemporaries, if anything she is probably doing it better since she sells more (albums and tickets). It a is a waste of time, energy and money try to have a hit single, that´s not going to happen, radios won’t play it (even AC) and younger audiences won’t stream it (Cher Believe won’t happen ever again, music industry is completely different). So when I read comments like “Celine doesn’t care about her music career” or “she doesn’t thrive anymore” when she is one of the hardest working women in the industry (ask fan base of any other female singer from 90s or early 00s what they think about this) I can’t help to think you are clueless.

 

Adele is rumored to release an album in November (first one in 4 years btw), do we know release date? No. Do we know title? No. Do we know producers, direction? No. Do we have single? No. Still people in here demand to know everything about Courage already, I don’t get it really. You will have plenty of time to bash her if there is not video, if the tracklist is short, if the cover photo is not up to your standards, but complaining about what you think might or might not happen in the future is absurd (and repetitive and a bit annoying).

 

Adele, Rihanna and the Weeknd are rumoured for December actually. However, i agree with your post wholeheartedly

[comingback]

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3. They give up on the album and totally kills it by releasing another oh so nessesary (?!!) best of compilation for concert goers to buy.

 

 

 

Yes.. ATW a decade of non-hits- ... (too sad to be funny, her big charttime is over : TC, LMBTL and Ashes had potential, but they bubbled under..

Edited September 9, 2019 at 06:54 PM by comingback

[Xpresso]

 

 

 

I'm not panicking and this IS different: Adele is not starting a worldwide tour 2 months (at least) prior the album is released, Celine does. She needs to create some hype and anticipation for that tour! Adele is not starting a tour that nobody has any idea what is going to be about, Celine does, and she is keeping everyone in the dark about the album, the tour, and everything.

 

Is this strategy working? Time will tell. But certainly it's very messed up.

 

Also, doesn't she say she has recorded songs for at least the next 4 albums? Why can't she release one of them until the album comes, right before the release months, to create some more buzz? What's the problem? It's everything soooooo contradictory here :rolleyes:

I think it's great that we don't know much about the album. She has almost sold out her tour regardless.

Being in the dark is not a bad strategy when we know radio won't play her new single anyway. I like this strategy. Don't share much information and just Bang, promote a week before its release. I'm totally fine with that. Why stress about something you can't change anyway? But keep on repeating the same thing maybe Sony will hear you.

[smw]

As much as I love Adele, I wish she would hold off on releasing her album. That album will be a big deal and sell very well and I don't want it to dim Celine's shine. But who knows -- maybe people will love being able to buy Celine & Adele's albums.

 

With that said -- do we know for a fact that Adele is releasing an album in November? What other big competition does Celine have that month?

 

I know Celine isn't chasing #1 but we all want that for her. She could easily release the album during a less competitive time and have another #1 album. Shania Twain had one so Celine could too!

 

What I hope for during this new era:

 

-A number 1 album

-A single with a solid music video that catches fire via YouTube just like Ashes (I don't need a "hit" or radio play; just some serious views on YouTube) -- I think her best bet is to release an "A New Day Has Come" type of song. About fresh beginnings, new chapters, etc. Those are her big songs on YouTube -- I'm Alive, TTWII, ANDHC

-For the album to feel strong -- a collage of Celine's emotions since Rene died -- and for her vocals to be fluid and soaring

-For the upcoming tour to have some spectacle, a few song surprises from her past albums (If You Asked Me To!) and a couple songs from her new album. More than anything, I want audiences to eat the show up just like they did in London

 

In the meantime I'm totally content with her sitting atop her fashion throne. It’s introducing her to millions of new fans and it’s perfectly natural for artists to want to try something new. Kelly Clarkson is around the same age Celine was when she started in Vegas -- and she's doing a talkshow now. Like others have stated, Celine has already dominated the music industry. What she accomplished is RARE and legendary. She will always perform but chasing hits and awards is a thing of the past.

 

Instead of obsessing over when the new music will get released --- which is coming SO SOON --- go and soak in the songs we already have! I've been listening to her French albums from the 80s -- and I've even been rediscovering some songs on LMBTL, OH, and TC. I stand by the fact that her last phenomenal English album was A New Day Has Come but there are some gems on her last few English records.

Edited September 9, 2019 at 07:02 PM by smw

[todos]

Love the posts between my last post and this one! Everyone has a valid opinion and is right in his/her own way.

[couldawouldashoulda]

I can certainly understand everyone’s frustration. Announcing the album back in April seems so. Long. Ago!! We’ve been waiting since, what, 2017 for this album? And as it gets closer everyone is getting antsy and impatient. Those are all valid feelings. At the same time, we can’t force Sony to release a single (or the album) before they want to. We could go round and round as to why the Courage Tour is starting two months before the Courage Album is released. That has to do with the inner workings of Celine and her team who put together her live shows and Sony who put together and release her albums.

 

I also know that my impatience has dissipated once I made the decision to go to the opening night of the tour. (And to the 4th fully English show in Cincinnati - only because my best friend lives there and it was an excuse to visit.) And I’m sure that, hearing a taste of the album from the couple of songs she’ll likely perform on tour will make me even more impatient for the album to come out in full. So I’ll just have to focus on something else until then. But we all need to relax. It’s coming. It’s coming. November will be here before we know it!

[kellyfan161]

I can certainly understand everyone’s frustration. Announcing the album back in April seems so. Long. Ago!! We’ve been waiting since, what, 2017 for this album? And as it gets closer everyone is getting antsy and impatient. Those are all valid feelings. At the same time, we can’t force Sony to release a single (or the album) before they want to. We could go round and round as to why the Courage Tour is starting two months before the Courage Album is released. That has to do with the inner workings of Celine and her team who put together her live shows and Sony who put together and release her albums.

 

I also know that my impatience has dissipated once I made the decision to go to the opening night of the tour. (And to the 4th fully English show in Cincinnati - only because my best friend lives there and it was an excuse to visit.) And I’m sure that, hearing a taste of the album from the couple of songs she’ll likely perform on tour will make me even more impatient for the album to come out in full. So I’ll just have to focus on something else until then. But we all need to relax. It’s coming. It’s coming. November will be here before we know it!

Good post!! I’m trying to focus on other music and things to keep me busy haha - not that I don’t have other things to do, but I’m just so excited for this album...

[Bruno Portugal]

The album, if there are no more silly changes, will be released on November 1, 8, 15, 22 or 29. So... How can there be no official news about a concrete release date, single, producers name? Anything!?

I really hope it's a fabulous album because this wait is freaking us out.

[maki_Dion-er]

So many here complaining and exasperated with Celine because she doesn't do this or that or is taking long, talking about how better other artists are at releasing material and yet...

 

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All fans go through the same. Celine isn't worse off, if anything I think we know more than fans of other current popular artists do of their faves next album.

 

We don't know much about the tour, so what? Why are people here against surprises. I want a song release before the tour as much as everyone else but her album doesn't come out until November and as mentioned earlier, her peers aren't doing any different. Heck, if I'm not mistaken, even Taylor Swift started releasing music and promo only about a month before her album "Lover" was released.

 

It is very unconventional to start a tour before the album, I agree. But, a different view point (since we can't change the fact) is that it'll be exciting for those going to those shows before the new songs are out, to hear it/them live first. I know I found it exciting when she performed FOMO in Vegas as a surprise.

[minolli]

So many here complaining and exasperated with Celine because she doesn't do this or that or is taking long, talking about how better other artists are at releasing material and yet...

 

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All fans go through the same. Celine isn't worse off, if anything I think we know more than fans of other current popular artists do of their faves next album.

 

We don't know much about the tour, so what? Why are people here against surprises. I want a song release before the tour as much as everyone else but her album doesn't come out until November and as mentioned earlier, her peers aren't doing any different. Heck, if I'm not mistaken, even Taylor Swift started releasing music and promo only about a month before her album "Lover" was released.

 

It is very unconventional to start a tour before the album, I agree. But, a different view point (since we can't change the fact) is that it'll be exciting for those going to those shows before the new songs are out, to hear it/them live first. I know I found it exciting when she performed FOMO in Vegas as a surprise.

 

Taylor had a 4 month lead up to "Lover," with 3 singles (and music videos) released between April and August, and frankly, it was kind of exhausting. There's got to be some balance between making an impact and getting the word out, and expecting people to follow along for months at a time while they wait for album release. There are a lot of factors involved, including whether the fan base can sustain a really lengthy album roll out, and whether the general public will remain interested. It's got to be tricky to figure out.

 

I think Bruce Springsteen found a nice balance with his latest release: about 6-7 weeks of lead time (late April-mid June), a single release, and a few additional songs (not singles) released along the way to maintain interest, and trusting that the fans who wanted to find it would. Less overwhelming and all-encompassing than the Taylor route, and maybe more fitting for Bruce's status as a legend who has proven himself many times over, not unlike Céline. (On an unrelated note,

looks wonderful, and seeing this kind of thing always provokes some wishful thinking about the creative things that Céline could do...)

 

We'll see what surprises the tour might have in store.

[scielle]

I'm glad they've got their heads down and are focusing on tour rehearsals.

Time for promo will come. The entertainment news cycle is currently saturated with TIFF and NYFW; that's where the press is at and stories outside of that will likely get lost in the shuffle. Better to wait for a slower news week.

[maki_Dion-er]

 

 

Taylor had a 4 month lead up to "Lover," with 3 singles (and music videos) released between April and August, and frankly, it was kind of exhausting. There's got to be some balance between making an impact and getting the word out, and expecting people to follow along for months at a time while they wait for album release. There are a lot of factors involved, including whether the fan base can sustain a really lengthy album roll out, and whether the general public will remain interested. It's got to be tricky to figure out.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I only heard about the album until this month with the release of "You Need to Calm Down" and "Me" last month.

 

[Céline RO]

I just had a horrible nightmare last night: A release date had been posted and it said July/August 2020!! (not joking!)

[sarit_celine]

Taylo

I think Bruce Springsteen found a nice balance with his latest release: about 6-7 weeks of lead time (late April-mid June), a single release, and a few additional songs (not singles) released along the way to maintain interest, and trusting that the fans who wanted to find it would. Less overwhelming and all-encompassing than the Taylor route, and maybe more fitting for Bruce's status as a legend who has proven himself many times over, not unlike Céline. (On an unrelated note,

looks wonderful, and seeing this kind of thing always provokes some wishful thinking about the creative things that Céline could do...)

 

We'll see what surprises the tour might have in store.

 

There there, it shouldn't be that complicated to create hype around the album/Tour.

If this time they decided to go the other way around and have shows before

the album, they also had to handle the promotion differently and be creative,

and not only to make one short "special" show that quickly went under the radar

while album apparently will be release 7 months later.

 

With some creativity and drive it can be done nicely to keep interest around the Tour/Album,

she doesn't have functioning managment that's for sure.

I love what Bruce did when he released few additional songs to maintain interest so having

in mind Celine has enough materials for 4 albums, it's behind me that her lame team

couldn't release new songs just to build any kind of hype.

[Ronny83]

https://m.soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainment/celine-dions-rapping-started-friendship-with-steve-aoki-on-the-michelle-collins-show

[Nmj]

https://m.soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainment/celine-dions-rapping-started-friendship-with-steve-aoki-on-the-michelle-collins-show

 

Steve Aioki wrote a song too?

[Xpresso]

https://m.soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainment/celine-dions-rapping-started-friendship-with-steve-aoki-on-the-michelle-collins-show

Wow, very cool!! Great find Ronny! So more news slowly coming out... Edited September 10, 2019 at 05:22 PM by Xpresso

[stevo]

 

 

Steve Aioki wrote a song too?

 

Do we think this might be the Ashes Remix he’s referring to? Or is this a new interview?

[Nmj]

 

 

Do we think this might be the Ashes Remix he’s referring to? Or is this a new interview?

 

I hope it’s a new song, but not sure how old that interview is.

[mirage]

Hope this is a new song.

 

Can't wait to hear what song she drops first as a single.

Hope it's a banger.

 

And not safe old ballads.

[rodrigo]

It's new.

There is on their site: https://www.siriusxm.com/stars

4:00 pm - 6:00 pm

The Michelle Collins Show

Antoni Porowski & Steve Aoki

[Bruno Portugal]

I was watching Pepe's Insta story in Quebec and I wondered...

 

And if one of these days, Sony Music by surprise would start playing short excerpts of Celine's new album in special venues for her, such as on a street in Quebec, Paris, Dublin, Las Vegas... Just imagine one song per city!

 

This would be promotion!!!

 

[DionFanAlways]

https://m.soundcloud...le-collins-show

"She's like a big funny skeleton"