"Courage" album - Official Topic

[SlovakClark]

I think some of you might have forgotten that Celine is not an "artist artist" like Bjork or Kate Bush or whoever who experiments with sound of music etc... She is more an artist in a singing way, she does art with her voice, but not with music, which is a shame, because Id die if she covered herself with crazy sounds, sort of like Beyonce did with her last two albums, she found an amazing way to stay relevant, not doing hit songs anymore, instead of that doing kinda crazy "artistical" albums.

But at the end of the day, shes still got some spark in her, Im so glad she doesnt follow the boring Streisand way but tries to reach to new singers like Sia , Adele etc. if she just stays in this road until the end, I will be more than happy

[BartFCS]

I think some of you might have forgotten that Celine is not an "artist artist" like Bjork or Kate Bush or whoever who experiments with sound of music etc... She is more an artist in a singing way, she does art with her voice, but not with music, which is a shame, because Id die if she covered herself with crazy sounds, sort of like Beyonce did with her last two albums, she found an amazing way to stay relevant, not doing hit songs anymore, instead of that doing kinda crazy "artistical" albums.

But at the end of the day, shes still got some spark in her, Im so glad she doesnt follow the boring Streisand way but tries to reach to new singers like Sia , Adele etc. if she just stays in this road until the end, I will be more than happy

That's a good point. I know that very well. Big fan of music here. I realise she'll never produce her stuff. As you say she's a singing artist. This is totally fine. That's where great producers are needed! Those who create production art , encourage singing artists to sing in certain way etc. Like Stewart Price in Madonnas's Confession on a dance floor. Or Herbie Hancock during her jazz recording session we will probably never hear... This kind of people. I'm against of producers and writers who are not original. Sure they can deliver a potential hit (that's another story) but it would most likely sound like something we heard hundred times. Plus Celine has tendency to imitate someone else. That's not singing art. That's why I believe at this point they need some fresh blood. Some independent producers who work for passion not money. Then I'm pretty sure they will together create some art!

 

 

And yes! I'm obsessed with art and I'm not ashamed of it!

Edited December 18, 2016 at 12:28 PM by BartFCS

[LukeD]

The problem with Celine going for a more artistic direction (for whatever that means) is that the process itself will not mean much to us unless we actually like the material she records. I guess we can all admire her effort, but the material has got to be good enough for us to connect with. So, in a way, I think that all discussions come to down to the same point: that her songs, no matter the genre or her singing approach, have got to be of quality. This pretty much explains why people, generally speaking, prefer her 90s catalogue compared to her 00s albums, despite the fact that Celine took much more chances and was more experimental with her material and performances from 00s onwards.

 

The final point is that I can be satisfied with Celine giving us yet another pop ballad album, playing it safe, as long as this album includes some mature, carefully crafted music.

[Holycrap!05]

I just wanted to say -

In the 7 jours (magazine) Celine said there will be a new photoshoot (for the English album)

[Javito]

I just wanted to say -

In the 7 jours (magazine) Celine said there will be a new photoshoot (for the English album)

 

And let's hope it's an outdoors one. And in full colour. PLEASE...

[Celine Fan 77]

I just wanted to say -

In the 7 jours (magazine) Celine said there will be a new photoshoot (for the English album)

 

Cool! Could you post scans or do you have a link to the full interview?

[jpatdeleon09]

I just wanted to say -

In the 7 jours (magazine) Celine said there will be a new photoshoot (for the English album)

 

Yehey! another moment for excitement! i hope every week we have good news

[Holycrap!05]

Cool! Could you post scans or do you have a link to the full interview?

 

At this adresse, you will find the scans of the whole interview with her :

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1664138286945337&set=pcb.1170722333003571&type=3

 

(The part where she talks about the photoshoot is the 10th picture ! ^^)

[celinesounds]

i would love to have something like this on Celine's next album

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0TzIgNJfY

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeafBPG6naM

 

 

the writer is amazing and the production is very nice, kind of country ballad

 

 

https://en.wikipedia...Hillary_Lindsey

 

David could produce this kind of things

Edited December 19, 2016 at 06:18 PM by celinesounds

[ryba]

i would love to have something like this on Celine's next album

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q0TzIgNJfY

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeafBPG6naM

 

 

the writer is amazing and the production is very nice, kind of country ballad

 

 

https://en.wikipedia...Hillary_Lindsey

 

David could produce this kind of things

oh yes! I love this Song!!!

[Bruno Portugal]

Any news about which producers are working on the new English album?

[donpi86]

 

 

David could produce this kind of things

 

In a million years.... I'd love and be SO surprised if they call Mark Ronson (producer of this album and Mars-Uptown Funk or several Amy Winehouse songs) ... But I would be much moooore surprised if Ronson accepts the project.. hahahaha...

[scielle]

 

 

In a million years.... I'd love and be SO surprised if they call Mark Ronson (producer of this album and Mars-Uptown Funk or several Amy Winehouse songs) ... But I would be much moooore surprised if Ronson accepts the project.. hahahaha...

 

I'd take Ronson over Foster any day.

[celine4evauk]

Mark Ronson is great! Been wanting him to work with celine for ages. We can hope 😀

[LukeD]

This time I will not judge anything until I listen to the entire record and to what each writer/musician/producer offered. There have been several examples of big names (Ne-Yo, Diane Warren, Aldo Nova, Tricky Stewart) that worked with Celine on Taking Chances and Loved Me Back To Life resulting into songs that were disappointing for me. Plus, sometimes it is just hard to predict what kind of song each songwriter will come up with. For exampe, I could never see a song like Recovering coming from Pink or My Love coming from Linda Perry! So yes, this time I will try not to anticipate anything! Edited December 19, 2016 at 10:09 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

This time I will not judge anything until I listen to the entire record and to what each writer/musician/producer offered. There have been several examples of big names (Ne-Yo, Diane Warren, Aldo Nova, Tricky Stewart) that worked with Celine on Taking Chances and Loved Me Back To Life resulting into songs that were disappointing for me. Plus, sometimes it is just hard to predict what kind of song each songwriter will come up with. For exampe, I could never see a song like Recovering coming from Pink or My Love coming from Linda Perry! So yes, this time I will try not to anticipate anything!

 

Really? Even after "Glitter In The Air" or "I Don't Believe You"? You couldn't see Pink writing "Recovering"? I wasn't too shocked by it.

[LukeD]

Really? Even after "Glitter In The Air" or "I Don't Believe You"? You couldn't see Pink writing "Recovering"? I wasn't too shocked by it.

I only own her 2010 compilation and I am just familiar with her greatest hits. Just noticed IDBY is included there, but it was not enough to make me expect Recovering mostly due to the fact that the rest of the album gave me a different impression of her musical style. I knew her lyrics can be sentimental but Recovering comes off as more sensitive than the average Pink song! Guess if I had paid more attention to her catalogue, then I would have known that a song like Recovering was possible!

[CelinesDIVO5]

I only own her 2010 compilation and I am just familiar with her greatest hits. Just noticed IDBY is included there, but it was not enough to make me expect Recovering mostly due to the fact that the rest of the album gave me a different impression of her musical style. I knew her lyrics can be sentimental but Recovering comes off as more sensitive than the average Pink song! Guess if I had paid more attention to her catalogue, then I would have known that a song like Recovering was possible!

 

I love Pink. She comes off as such a real and relatable person through her music. She's got attitude, shows a fun side and then she gets vulnerable, sentimental, and sensitive. She shows so many facets of herself, and then when you hear her speak, it ties it all together. I just adore her.

[Shaun]

Personally I'd welcome Foster back with open arms. When he worked with Celine she was driven and dedicated to achieving results and, frankly, she did all she could to impress him and it shows in the recordings she worked on with him. Even during the dark "Miracle" years the tracks he worked on were the better ones.

 

Whenever she performs live with Foster (Grammy's, World Children's Day etc) she ups her game too.

 

I get that times move on but Celine has worked with loads of new people and tried different things over the past 15 years to varying degrees of success however perhaps it's time to return to what she did best and what achieved the best results in her (English) career. Just my opinion.

[stevo]

We have so many demands and it all boils down to personal opinions...I just want the golden, mellow smooth voice to be captured in the production- no 'dry' 'bedroom' voice. I don't want that, at all. I want a beautiful album like ANDHC. An album with all sorts. Power, dance, sadness, happiness, something to surprise us, a song in Spanish...

 

I can't wait. I hope she does take her time. I'm glad that she's acknowledged that it's always too rushed.

 

Can anyone translate the new 7Jours interview, pretty pretty please!?

[jpatdeleon09]

Well, one of my wish is a mariah-celine duet and it should be a great song! Greater than When you believe

[DionFanAlways]

Well, one of my wish is a mariah-celine duet and it should be a great song! Greater than When you believe

No thank you! Just my feeling on this and I value your feelings on it.

[Javito]

We have so many demands and it all boils down to personal opinions...I just want the golden, mellow smooth voice to be captured in the production- no 'dry' 'bedroom' voice. I don't want that, at all. I want a beautiful album like ANDHC. An album with all sorts. Power, dance, sadness, happiness, something to surprise us, a song in Spanish...

 

A good summary of why ANDHC is such a unique and great album

I've always wondered why they decided to remove Super Love from the US and Canadian pressings of the album. Even that bubblegum song and its fast lyrics add something to the ensemble and it's fun to listen to.

 

And the Spanish song, Aun Existe Amor... The album would be simply incomplete to me without that track (needless to say I'm Spanish and I LOVE that song of course haha )

Edited December 20, 2016 at 06:58 PM by Javito

[celine4evauk]

 

 

A good summary of why ANDHC is such a unique and great album

I've always wondered why they decided to remove Super Love from the US and Canadian pressings of the album. Even that bubblegum song and its fast lyrics add something to the ensemble and it's fun to listen to.

 

And the Spanish song, Aun Existe Amor... The album would be simply incomplete to me without that track (needless to say I'm Spanish and I LOVE that song of course haha )

 

Oh I hate SuperLove. But AEA I adore!

[québecflower]

"The Greatest Reward"

 

So suddenly, so strange

Life wakes you up, things change

 

 

 

 

this is what happens in life. Things change , and sometimes , it 's a good thing but mostly , you have no choice. You accept , or you live in the past. And if you live in the past , you don't live in the moment . I guess that you have that choice, living in the now and be surprised in a good or a bad way or reliving the past.

[LukeD]

Oh I hate SuperLove. But AEA I adore!

It is part of the European Edition of the album and while I think it is a fun song, I also feel that it cheapens the album. Both musically and lyrically. Only song in ANDHC that does that. AEA is as good as a song that has been adapted to another language can be! And her voice soars! Definitely an album highlight! Edited December 20, 2016 at 08:57 PM by LukeD

[Javito]

Oh I hate SuperLove. But AEA I adore!

 

Well then you should get a copy of the US album release (in case you don't have it already), because as you know they omitted that song. Should that be your perfect edition of the ANDHC album then?

[celine4evauk]

 

 

Well then you should get a copy of the US album release (in case you don't have it already), because as you know they omitted that song. Should that be your perfect edition of the ANDHC album then?

 

Why buy another version? I don't collect albums just because it's a different countries release. I have 2 versions of the album, the original one from here and the 2nd version. I never listen to the album from start to finish. I only did that when I first got it lol. I'll continue to just listen to the songs I like, and in what order I wish thanks 😆😂

Actually I can't think of any of her english albums that I'd describe as perfect, no matter what edition. A few come close though 😉

Edited December 20, 2016 at 10:19 PM by celine4evauk

[stevo]

Haha, I actually love Super Love! Very Europe 2002 and I don't think it'd be the same album without. It reminds me of my first years at uni, this album. Good times

[Javito]

Why buy another version? I don't collect albums just because it's a different countries release. I have 2 versions of the album, the original one from here and the 2nd version. I never listen to the album from start to finish. I only did that when I first got it lol. I'll continue to just listen to the songs I like, and in what order I wish thanks

Actually I can't think of any of her english albums that I'd describe as perfect, no matter what edition. A few come close though

 

 

Because I thought the only song you disliked was that one, then in the US edition you can save the effort to skip it lol

 

You never ever listen to this album from start to finish? Any Celine album?